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Heaven = Hell


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Heaven would not be a nice place. Your "`reward" after this life is to worship a sadistic deity for eternity and see your heathen relatives burning in hell.

 

As Christopher Hitchens said, at least you can die in North Korea and leave. You can never leave heaven. The party is FOREVER.

 

There's no marriage because everyone is married to Jesus. (So God is allowed polygamy but humans aren't it seems.) So God will forcefully dissolve all earthly unions, like in a veritable cult, and separate everyone to break any bonds that he can't control, like in 1984.

 

No sex, because no reproduction and no evil lust.

 

No food, because there is no need for nutrition and nourishment in heaven - it'll be praise and worship non-stop.

 

Constant, eternal, cosmic surveillance. FOREVER.

 

This article on Salon sums up my views well:

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Oh this is very late and has no replies after all that time, but yes. 

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     Anything that lasts forever would be hell.  Just existing forever would be hell.  There's just not enough to do.  I guess that's why bible god is such a dick.

 

     The only way this works is if your mind is fundamentally altered to just enjoy things but then you're not really you anymore so who cares at that point?  The new you may as well sit back and enjoy the eternal ride.  The old, actual, you will be long dead and won't care anyway.

 

          mwc

 

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The idea of being alive for ever is horrific, even in paradise. Picture being alive for a billion years, 20 billion, a trillion, a hundred, hundred, hundred trillion trillion.....no thanks 

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We were watching that Ryan Reynolds movie about "shedding." Where someone's consciousness is transferred to another body. But in primitive form, the shedding was being done as an overlay imprinting someone's consciousness over the top of another person's who was still alive the whole time. Sort of like a "Get Out" scenario. The ideal situation was to grow clone bodies (something like Avatar) and have a persons consciousness put into the clone body, which would be a blank slate. But they hadn't been able to get that far yet. And without medication, the original hosts consciousness could come back and stomp out the new consciousness imposed over it. The idea was to temporarily hold out until the clone bodies could be successfully lab grown. 

 

Ideally, it lays out a sci-fi situation where your consciousness could potentially live forever. Shedding bodies like a snake sheds it's skin. But of course the situation would turn to the "Highlander" question. 

 

"Who wants to live forever?" 

 

At some point, even if this were possible, people would likely chose to stop shedding when they'd had enough. After a couple thousand years, how would opinions change? If someone made it to a couple million or billion years, then what? I wonder if watching movies like this ever gets people thinking about myths like heaven and questioning whether or not it's even what they actually want? Probably at least some people get triggered into deep thought from this stuff. 

 

 

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