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On 12/4/2017 at 8:13 AM, ag_NO_stic said:

So, I go out to eat with my family for my brother's birthday. My parents, siblings, husband, brother's wife, all there. My dad loudly from across the table says "Jessica, are you gonna be ok with me praying over the meal?" It was SO embarrassing. Even as a Christian, I wasn't ok with it, because Jesus was clear that public praying is such attention/praise-seeking behavior. Like seriously? I don't believe in your god but I'll look down at the floor if it will mean getting out of here without conflict.

 

Dad, do you love me? I'm just checking.

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On 12/4/2017 at 8:13 AM, ag_NO_stic said:

So, I go out to eat with my family for my brother's birthday. My parents, siblings, husband, brother's wife, all there. My dad loudly from across the table says "Jessica, are you gonna be ok with me praying over the meal?" It was SO embarrassing. Even as a Christian, I wasn't ok with it, because Jesus was clear that public praying is such attention/praise-seeking behavior. Like seriously? I don't believe in your god but I'll look down at the floor if it will mean getting out of here without conflict.

Same thing with some of my relatives. Once an uncle of mine talked shit about my mom as she laid seriously ill in the hospital due to black mold.  Then an hour later we were at a restaurant and he was praying out loud thanking his god for the food and to heal my mom. 

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On 12/5/2017 at 10:37 AM, ag_NO_stic said:

 

Yes, my dad borderline hollered at the restaurant with a bit of a.....taunting, pious tone if I was going to have a problem with him praying, it was decently snide. I was very personally humiliated, since I wasn't looking to make a fuss.

 

I'm not feeling very hungry anymore, Dad. Goodbye, all.

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Yup.

 

Mrs. MOHO will look around the room at a restaurant to make sure everyone sees her demonstrative invocation. It's very important to her that the world observe her self-righteous behavior.  But that's only because she truly IS better than everyone else.    ^_^

 

We all know (and she probably does too - just like @ag_NO_stic's father does) that their book flatly states no public praying.

 

Farging cherry pickers, they are! 

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8 hours ago, MOHO said:

Yup.

 

Mrs. MOHO will look around the room at a restaurant to make sure everyone sees her demonstrative invocation. It's very important to her that the world observe her self-righteous behavior.  But that's only because she truly IS better than everyone else.    ^_^

 

We all know (and she probably does too - just like @ag_NO_stic's father does) that their book flatly states no public praying.

 

Farging cherry pickers, they are! 

 

Find a louder restaurant. 7pm on Saturday night can be good. :)

 

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“The bible doesn’t speak to everything in life directly, but it speaks indirectly about everything in life.”

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8 minutes ago, ExPCA said:

“The bible doesn’t speak to everything in life directly, but it speaks indirectly about everything in life.”

 

The bible doesn't say much about the new Intel multicore processors, that I've noticed.

 

But, maybe that's because I don't have the Holy Spirit in me.

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On 1/12/2018 at 4:53 PM, midniterider said:

 

The bible doesn't say much about the new Intel multicore processors, that I've noticed.

 

But, maybe that's because I don't have the Holy Spirit in me.

 

It's right there in Revelations! Those processors will be the mark of the beast implanted in hands and foreheads. You'd know that if you had the holy ghost! 

 

;)

 

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It’s not a faith crisis, you’re demon possessed. But my friend has agreed to council you and help you go through past hurts and receive your healing...for a small fee

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In a voice of complete seriousness and confidence (also, unsolicited)... "You probably don't know this... but in certain circles people call me a prophet." It was at a funeral, and people were in emotionally vulnerable states. Beyond the content of the statement itself, the context in which he evoked it was particularly inappropriate. I got the sense that he was leading up to a request for a large donation of money. 

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One my fundy friends had one of those prayers were the tell you what your purpose is in life - I mean besides giving money to the church and rounding up  more deluded suckers.

 

Pastor told him "Your purpose in life is the help people. This is what you are to do because you LIKE to do it. Just make sure it's xtian people you help."

This is funny because...

 

On the main section of this site, not too long ago, someone ( I think it was Carl S.) wrote an article about an astrology debunking seminar he attended. Each had their own "personal" horoscope blurb about their personality, based on their sign, provided in the seminar. Each attendee exclaimed

 

"That is EXACTLY MEEEEEEE!"

 

The instructor now directed each attendee to hand their description to the person next to them.

"WOW!, er, um, that's...exactly...me"

 

Number one, numero uno, top of the list, first item in EACH description...

 

"You like to help people!"

 

Poor Steven. He's out there now, each day helping people when he'd much rather be at home watching Last Man Standing reruns.

 

 

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On 3/22/2017 at 5:38 PM, yunea said:

"God KNOWS your pain! God SEES your pain!" 

 

And does what? Makes me giggle for a bit and sends me back to the painful situation, but this time lying to myself that every bit of strength I have to battle it is not even mine? Cool. 

Ugh. I got that so many times, with the variations of "God sees your trials" or "God gives us trials for a reason." Well, in that case, God must have decided I needed booting out of the church, because that's what it all resulted in :P

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I once asked a group of Christians if the Jews killed in the Holocaust went to hell because of their lack of belief in Jesus. Their answer? "If you don't believe in Jesus, you're lost, you're going to hell."

 

What. The. Actual. Fuck.

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12 hours ago, Bookworm said:

I once asked a group of Christians if the Jews killed in the Holocaust went to hell because of their lack of belief in Jesus. Their answer? "If you don't believe in Jesus, you're lost, you're going to hell."

 

What. The. Actual. Fuck.

I personally know people who believe that no matter how good you are, if you don't believe in Jesus, you are going to hell.

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1 hour ago, Anushka said:

I personally know people who believe that no matter how good you are, if you don't believe in Jesus, you are going to hell.

 

As far as I know, every Christian whom I know personally believes that. It's standard Christian doctrine. 

 

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At the church I grew up in, the pastor once shouted from the pulpit that when he saw people crossing the street to go to the casino, he wanted to run over them with his car.

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12 hours ago, Anushka said:

I personally know people who believe that no matter how good you are, if you don't believe in Jesus, you are going to hell.

I was having a conversation with a super religious college student at work yesterday who was equating sins...she used the line I used to use about how "all sins are equal in the eyes of God," and saying that stealing is no different than murder. I thought about Lawrence Kohlberg and asked her, "what about the person who steals food to feed his hungry family?" Then she started making half-hearted exceptions.

 

It amazes me how these people can intuitively grasp that these things are different in levels of severity, yet claim their "loving" god views them indiscriminately; therefore, the man who lusts after the woman he is not married to is as "broken" as Hitler. It's mind-boggling.

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I am a lead now at work and I was telling him why I am agnostic now and no longer believe in the bible. I was talking about the lack of proof. He just said "you dont need proof to believe". I put this here because this is someone I consider a very, very intelligent man. It amazes me how the bible and belief shut the doors of reason in even the most intelligent people. But to his credit. He isn't what I call a "practicing christian"  he doesn't go to church, he drinks, he cusses from time to time, and he is a really good guy. I just thought it was funny that he didn't need proof for that but i'm sure everything else in his life would require some amount of "evidence" to convince him.

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10 hours ago, Bookworm said:

At the church I grew up in, the pastor once shouted from the pulpit that when he saw people crossing the street to go to the casino, he wanted to run over them with his car.

 

So, he doesn't want them to have a chance to "get saved"?

 

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4 minutes ago, Citsonga said:

 

So, he doesn't want them to have a chance to "get saved"?

 

 

Evidently not.

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17 hours ago, Citsonga said:

 

As far as I know, every Christian whom I know personally believes that. It's standard Christian doctrine. 

 

Yes, and its even better with the fundamentalists, who will exclude anyone who doesn't belong to their specific sect, irregardless of whether they're Christian or believe in Jesus.

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2 hours ago, TruthSeeker0 said:

Yes, and its even better with the fundamentalists, who will exclude anyone who doesn't belong to their specific sect, irregardless of whether they're Christian or believe in Jesus.

When you're in one of those sects the circle of people who are considered "real" Christians keeps getting smaller and smaller over time, with the survivors shivering and clenching in fear in the center. It's almost like they're willfully going to a "heaven" that's very lonely and far away from any kind of compassion, comfort, or security. Huh... does that sound an awful lot like hell to you?

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On 2/17/2018 at 4:47 PM, Anushka said:

I personally know people who believe that no matter how good you are, if you don't believe in Jesus, you are going to hell.

 

People "believe" all manners the things.  Some are based and evidence and rational thought, some are based on hopes and dreams, some are based on indoctrination and peer pressure, some are based on fear, ignorance and/or selfishness...the list goes on.

 

As to the subset of folks who believe that no matter how good you are, if you don't believe in Jesus, you are going to hell, so what?  I "believe" that such a belief is infantile, obsolete and vacuous.  Again, so what?

 

 

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On 2/18/2018 at 12:02 AM, Bookworm said:

At the church I grew up in, the pastor once shouted from the pulpit that when he saw people crossing the street to go to the casino, he wanted to run over them with his car.

Ahh geez. The familiarity with this. While attending holy convocations before I left was I either told, or heard that Christians seen at casinos were destined for that fateful ticket downstairs or if they eventually passed on was it due to that one trip or many. And how it was said stunned me at that time.

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