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Asimov

Free Will...again! W00t

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If one accepts Quantum Theory, then there is no need for a first cause. And the universe has to have always existed. As far as I know, there is no such thing as absolute nothingness.

 

I have a question for you: what's beyond the edge of the Universe?

 

That's a meaningless statement.

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God is outside of time?  Um mm, please quote the Biblical support for that opinion.

 

 

Once again - please quote the Biblical support for your opinion that God is outside of time.

 

Thanks.

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Asimov, let me try and anser your specific question, although Riker is right. The Universe lives by the law of causality, everything has a cause. And the Universe as a whole needs a cause or else it would be eternal (which cannot be shown right now). The Universe lives according to the law of causality because 1) it lives in time and 2) it has an order within, and it is governed by the laws of nature. That's my reasoning. However, remember that God made us in His image? We can also be the first causes of things -- we create, we decide, we choose.

 

Please read my thread about cosmology and take the argument I propose into account before you argue such things.

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We are free because we can either choose our own way or follow God. If you weren't free (suppose there is God) then we wouldn't be able to do that, we would all be in Eden now eating the fruits of life and always smiling, with no forbidden fruit to chew on. That is called gilded cage.

 

Does god choose to not follow himself?

 

Can he choose to be immoral?

 

Perhaps he has no free will but we do?

 

If Bible god were real, He would have the power to create beings with free will, the same free will He has, that would still not offer the option of evil with the resultant eterntity of horrific punishment.

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