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What Happens When White Folks Leave? (Detroit)

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Atlanta may be an exception,  but the pattern is much the same in city after city when African Americans become the majority numerically and they also become the political majority.  The crime & murder rates skyrocket. I don't know why & apparently no one else does either. Hopefully, someone can find a solution & reverse this trend. 

 

I read a news article just today that indicated Balitmore seems to be following Detroit's decline. Memphis has already completed the cycle. The crime & murder rate is out of control in Memphis. The police are overwhelmed & undermanned. And finding replacement officers has proven to be difficult. Many metropolitian cities in the U.S. seem to be teetering on the brink of total anarchy. 

 

 

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Yeay white people!?

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When your rubber contacts the roads "fault" can be laid properly right at the feet of the People and in turn those they continued to reelect.

 

Not too hard to understand when Econ .58b is introduced to ones thinking about societies problems. 

 

THIS particular plate of discussion has been served many times here prior. Keep any "nigger" shit to ZERO,  discuss candidly and openly.

 

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Narrow and small minds identify coincidence and correlation and magically claim causation.

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27 minutes ago, sdelsolray said:

Narrow and small minds identify coincidence and correlation and magically claim causation.

 

And when coincidence becomes an identifiable pattern,..... what do you call it then?

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Why are there no ruins or evidence of any civilizations of any advancement in sub-saharan Africa for the last 3000 years?  For part of that time, it could be said in short snippets of history that there were colonial or despotic leaders, but the LAST 3000 YEARS?  

 

I am not saying anything against any group of people, just pointing out a fact.  I don't think anybody should ever be treated badly or subjugated or treated badly in any way.  

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52 minutes ago, Geezer said:

 

And when coincidence becomes an identifiable pattern,..... what do you call it then?

 

 

Usually correlation.  Demonstrating specific causation requires more, much more, than "patterns".

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Coincidence, causation, correlation?  Don't forget culture.

Because it's not about color, it's about culture and some work better than others. Let me say that again and expand a bit so nobody thinks I'm saying something I'm not saying...

 

Some cultures work better for the common good of themselves and humanity than others, and it has nothing to do with a person's color, as evidenced by the fact that there are good people and bad people of every color that evolution ever produced. 

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18 hours ago, duderonomy said:

Coincidence, causation, correlation?  Don't forget culture.

Because it's not about color, it's about culture and some work better than others. Let me say that again and expand a bit so nobody thinks I'm saying something I'm not saying...

 

Some cultures work better for the common good of themselves and humanity than others, and it has nothing to do with a person's color, as evidenced by the fact that there are good people and bad people of every color that evolution ever produced. 

 

Excellent point!

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4 hours ago, Tsathoggua9 said:

 

Excellent point!

 

Thank you! I do what I can.

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12 hours ago, SkipNChurch said:

 

 

 

 

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     There seems to be no real source for that quote.  He seems to express that sentiment in his "Notes on Nationalism" but the quote appears to be yet another invention (useful for these memes).

 

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Why even bother having a mustache like that??? 

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So the people with statisically the most wealth, assets, education, family connections, business ownership, ability historically to borrow money, home ownership, and positions of power all leave an area or a city entirely as a group...

 

Yeah its a mystery. 

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2 minutes ago, Jeff said:

So the people with statisically the most wealth, assets, education, family connections, business ownership, ability historically to borrow money, home ownership, and positions of power all leave an area or a city entirely as a group...

 

Yeah its a mystery. 

You left out work ethic...

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16 hours ago, Fweethawt said:

Why even bother having a mustache like that??? 

 

Is that it? You hate mustaches? No wonder you hate me then. My mustache is older and wiser than you and has been to places you can only dream about.

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1 hour ago, duderonomy said:

 

Is that it? You hate mustaches? No wonder you hate me then. My mustache is older and wiser than you and has been to places you can only dream about.

I wasn't talking about that Magnum PI face mop that you have. I'm talking about that harelip thing he's got going on up there in that pic.

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10 minutes ago, Fweethawt said:

I wasn't talking about that Magnum PI face mop that you have. I'm talking about that harelip thing he's got going on up there in that pic.

 

Styles change. That's something you would know if you'd ever grow beyond needing a big chrome motorcycle.

 

You say you get compliments about how safe you ride, while my mustache smells like heaven. To each their own I guess, but I'm not making payments on my 'stache. 

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Gotta love all the racist ideas from the right-wingers on this site.  They call their superiority culture or work ethic and think it is really all that different to the sentiments of white people in the past.  This is why I wrote my post on the actual history of black people in America, because no one puts the whole picture together who wants to castigate blacks in order to elevate the importance of white people.

 

Where was all the black civilization in Africa BO asks?  Civilization started in Africa, the Egyptians were not white people like they are in hollywood movies.  There were also increasingly sophisticated civilizations in the horn of Africa until the European imperialists showed up and needed hard manual labor for the supply of their consumer goods.  It seems contrary to what Fwee says, that blacks were chosen because of their work ethic and strength, and also because the native American population had been 90% wiped out by us whites mostly via disease but the Spanish were quite cruel imperialists too.  

 

Slavery was only abolished a little over a hundred years ago, these 4 million slaves had to be transitioned into the economy.  With the financial crisis in the 1870s, reconstruction was given up and the Southern Democrats regained political power and subdued the blacks until the 1960s.  This meant that millions would be migrating to cities to find jobs, which in the early stages of industrialization meant horrible wages, poor working conditions, and instability and strikes.  Why did so many land in Detroit, to work in the factories of course, but those factories are now history and we are transitioning over to a knowledge economy which means unskilled labor is in going to increasingly be in lower demand and we have generations of Africans Americans who have lived in poverty.  There aren't big cities with loads of jobs for this kind of labor anymore, so black markets suffice as alternative means for getting by in a hopeless situation.  White people are totally capable of organized crime too, violence is a universal human characteristic.  To blame the former victims of our imperialism and slavery for their progeny's predicament is to me thr highest foolishness and I would say is the new kind of racism that now uses language like culture to argue that whites are superior as Fwee has done.

 

Just another reason why I am coming to this site less and less, it is dominated by a bunch of fools who defend racism or Russia.  For a bunch of people formerly swindled by religion, I expected much more, but some are still fond of their mythologies be they religious or national.

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The reality that people often examine the same facts and information, and also factor in their personal experiences, and then come to different conclusions does not make them racists. That is a word and an accusation that I despise. IMO it is often a word used simply to incite emotions. The word has been so bastardized that it's meaning becomes whatever the person making the charge wants it to mean. And the mere accusation is often sufficient to convict the accused, no actual evidence is necessary. 

 

The person making that charge is usually an activists of some sort and wants to project their moral superiority and personal righteousness to others, who supposedly have failed to join the morally superior upper class of the all knowing and morally perfect and purified elitists that hover above the unwashed bigots,  that wallow in the mud and sins of their ignorant bigotry.

 

Who says religious people are the only indoctrinated fools that think they are better than, and morally superior to, everyone else on planet earth? 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, TrueScotsman said:

To blame the former victims of our imperialism and slavery for their progeny's predicament is to me thr highest foolishness and I would say is the new kind of racism that now uses language like culture to argue that whites are superior as Fwee has done.

 

Just another reason why I am coming to this site less and less, it is dominated by a bunch of fools who defend racism or Russia.  For a bunch of people formerly swindled by religion, I expected much more, but some are still fond of their mythologies be they religious or national.

 

First, I do believe I was the one that brought up culture, not Fwee. And I pointed out explicitly that a culture doesn't have to do with color. 

Two, Vigile also rails against the "Imperialism" of the United States. Instead of berating him as a "fool", maybe you should join him.

Three, name me one person here that defends racism, and do it with facts, not with your imagination and high horsery of defending victims that aren't victims.

Four, you forgot to mention the "fools" here that defend their chosen religion of Socialism likely because you seem to be the one that does it ad nauseum.

 

So why are the blacks in Detroit only able to do unskilled labor after all these years, as you seem to believe?  If only they had schools, could go to universities, had programs that gave them an unfair advantage over certain other races. If only they could vote.

If only some would immerse themselves in endeavours of success instead of modern day thuggery and baby-daddyisms, and get themselves off the plantation of the Democrat party.

Oh wait! Some do, and that's why they are as successful as anyone else that does because despite anyone's color, they can choose the culture they want to be part of or emulate.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, duderonomy said:

 

First, I do believe I was the one that brought up culture, not Fwee. And I pointed out explicitly that a culture doesn't have to do with color. 

Two, Vigile also rails against the "Imperialism" of the United States. Instead of berating him as a "fool", maybe you should join him.

Three, name me one person here that defends racism, and do it with facts, not with your imagination and high horsery of defending victims that aren't victims.

Four, you forgot to mention the "fools" here that defend their chosen religion of Socialism likely because you seem to be the one that does it ad nauseum.

 

So why are the blacks in Detroit only able to do unskilled labor after all these years, as you seem to believe?  If only they had schools, could go to universities, had programs that gave them an unfair advantage over certain other races. If only they could vote.

If only some would immerse themselves in endeavours of success instead of modern day thuggery and baby-daddyisms, and get themselves off the plantation of the Democrat party.

Oh wait! Some do, and that's why they are as successful as anyone else that does because despite anyone's color, they can choose the culture they want to be part of or emulate.

 

 

 

First of all, you're young and don't perhaps realize how racist ideas evolve over time, what is now referenced as cultural superiority in my mind is just an updated rehashed ideology from the past of white or European superiority.  Its bullshit, we raped African culture for all its worth before it ever had a chance to take off, to now claim at this juncture in history that what now separates us is culture is the height of ignorance IMO.

 

Secondly, Vigile is a clown fed full of Russian propaganda to a degree I have stated on the record is harmful for the forum.  I think the United States needs plenty of criticism, but these Russian clowns want to say that they're the victims and have nothing to say to actually account for just how bad Russia is under Putin.  If he was self-conscious about Russian imperialism, then I wpuld see his critiques about the US as consistent, but being that he supports Putin I call him a clown whose been duped just like we all were under Christianity.

 

Third, racism is belief that one race is superior than another, and to repackage it into culture really is a distinction without a difference in my mind.  Why is African American culture in the state that it is in?  Zero reflection on that, just blanket insults at black people for their work ethic and suboptimal culture, which if they only became more like the whites/Europeans would be better.

 

Fourth, I don't think people who are Socialists are "fools," and I probably have a better understanding for the concept than you.  Socialism doesnt equate to Stalinism or any particular Communism that came from the Soviet Union, it simply implies a belief in the the means of production and their control for perhaps the entire economy or only parts of the economy, and is critical of Capitalism to produce better conditions on the whole for workers which has largely been proven true.  You might think because you live in the US that this is the case, but for most of the workers of global Capitalism in emerging markets that is surely not the case.  I find more notable on this site the sacred cow of Libertarianism, an ode of course to the regional and cultural contexts many American former Christians find themselves in.  Socialists also in Europe have been placated by Russia, such as the Syriza in Greece and have many leftwingers like Richard Wolffe on their programs merely to try and erode any possible consensus.  Even Yanis Varoufakis, whom I think is a serious left winger appears on RT, so I think Europeans leftwingers can't really be trusted to see Putin correctly in my experience.

 

Detroit used to have plenty of jobs, US then transitioned to a consumer led economy where these manufacturing jobs went to Asia largely, and there was insufficient education and opportunities in these regions and the Democrat solution was to then make these people dependent on public housing and welfare and misguided affirmative action to combat this problem.  It didnt address the underlying economic realities and then combatted the problem in a way that exacerbated much of the social problems.  Its not like the Free Market would have had their back, free trade and technological innovation core tenants of Neo-Liberalism gave us these conditions which greatly empower corporations to the detriment to the individual.  I think more broad meanginful investment is needed, not just for African American communities but society wide, a Marshall Plan for education that is much more meaningful at arming our future generations with the skills they will need to be relevant in the productive labor of the future.  The Service Industry is slowly going to be eroded by technology and we will create a useless class as a result, a multi-ethnic useless class unless we take these issues more seriously.  How will the Free Market solve that problem in your estimation?  

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34 minutes ago, Geezer said:

The reality that people often examine the same facts and information, and also factor in their personal experiences, and then come to different conclusions does not make them racists. That is a word and an accusation that I despise. IMO it is often a word used simply to incite emotions. The word has been so bastardized that it's meaning becomes whatever the person making the charge wants it to mean. And the mere accusation is often sufficient to convict the accused, no actual evidence is necessary. 

 

The person making that charge is usually an activists of some sort and wants to project their moral superiority and personal righteousness to others, who supposedly have failed to join the morally superior upper class of the all knowing and morally perfect and purified elitists that hover above the unwashed bigots,  that wallow in the mud and sins of their ignorant bigotry.

 

Who says religious people are the only indoctrinated fools that think they are better than, and morally superior to, everyone else on planet earth? 

 

 

 

 

I don't consider that many people are looking at the same facts, ignorance often abounds when knowledge appears to be only a click away.  Which is why I substantiate my claims with multiple examples to provide historical correlates for what I am talking about.  I doubt you've been educated as much on the history of western imperialism than I have, and I am a straight white man who never suffered under its yoke.  My perspective is not sqewed by personal experience, it is informed by countless hours of studying and learning about the human conditions after coming out of the ignorance of Christianity.  

 

Of course someone who routinely lambasts black people, often in derogatory terms and says they lack culture and work ethic is not racist we can't know that.  Anyone who brings it up potentially is the one whose internal disposition we surmise on Geezer's account, racism for him is irrelevant and gone for all he cares, the people who bring it up are the problem.  I would rather say that the conclusions of a statement are racist or some form of repackaged racist ideology such as cultural superiority, than say that any individual is defined in their identity as a racist, but to claim anyone who brings up these issues is just virtue signaling is a convenient dismissal.  It makes everyone ignore the content of what I have actually said, and look instead to some invented narcissistic motivation to make myself superior to everyone and that they need to join this special elite upper class of moral beings like myself.

 

I'm just sharing my opinion, but it seems only particular kinds of opinions are actually welcome around here.  I don't give two shits what any of you think of my moral status, I don't believe there is a heaven or hell to set us apart.  I just care about the truth, but Geezer sees through all that, I am really just wanting you all to think so much about me as I insult you.  

 

How's this for virtue signaling: Fuck you.

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