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9 hours ago, LogicalFallacy said:

 

Tried  that... it doesn't work.

You can't use your own strength, it takes the power of God's spirit to open your eye's, to soften your hard heart, to reveal his presence, to heal your dead soul, ect ect

 

Remember the 99 sheep God left to find that one lost sheep, he traveled wide and far until he found the sheep. He carried it all the way back to the flock on his shoulder's only to find when he returned that the other 99 sheep were all dead.

 

See how important you are to him.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, theanticrash said:

You can't use your own strength, it takes the power of God's spirit to open your eye's, to soften your hard heart, to reveal his presence, to heal your dead soul, ect ect

 

Remember the 99 sheep God left to find that one lost sheep, he traveled wide and far until he found the sheep. He carried it all the way back to the flock on his shoulder's only to find when he returned that the other 99 sheep were all dead.

 

See how important you are to him.

 

 

Lol.

 

Actually a good point. No decent shepherd would leave a flock is sheep unattended to save one. That story is moronic. Makes you feel good though cause we all poor lil wee lost lambs. 

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1 hour ago, LogicalFallacy said:

Lol.

 

Actually a good point. No decent shepherd would leave a flock is sheep unattended to save one. That story is moronic. Makes you feel good though cause we all poor lil wee lost lambs. 

Why can't Jimmy see what's going on in his head, has he gone totally bonkers that he believes he's the one. He's writing what? New scripture? I hope I don't see Jimmy on the news because he started a new cult following. 

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Jimmy, 

     Could you please answer a question? Why is it that archeological finds are not supporting the bible’s Version of events? If God is all powerful, all knowing, and everywhere. Why is his story so different from verifiable finds. We learn so much about ancient cultures through archeology and the more we find the more it says the Bible is a book of lies rather than a book of truth.

 

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Jimmy,

 

It says in the Bible that "In the beginning was the word, and the word became flesh".  It also says that God is the same yesterday, today and forever.  If the Bible is the "Word of God", and you have a god that says what it says in Psalms 137:9, regardless of it being NT or OT, which means, God can change his mind on being compassionate or a mean bastard, they why follow him?  If you see the same actions in a human being today, that would be considered psychopathic, sociopathic, and with all that has been done according to the Bible, worthy of prison, and in many states in the US, the death penalty.  WHY....WHY do you folllow such a psychopathic being? 

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Hi Jim:

 

Back on page 2 of this thread I posted some links to some photos. You didn't look at those photos, so here are the links again:

( https://pro.magnumphotos.com/image/NYC6985.html,  https://pro.magnumphotos.com/image/NYC6978.html,  https://www.medicalvirals.info/article/1724)

Be sure to click on the images in the first two so you can see them enlarged. The little images that first come up don't do them justice.

 

How about explaining why an allegedly loving god who allegedly can do anything he wants would cause this (or allow this) to happen?

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3 hours ago, Burnedout said:

Jimmy,

 

It says in the Bible that "In the beginning was the word, and the word became flesh".  It also says that God is the same yesterday, today and forever.  If the Bible is the "Word of God", and you have a god that says what it says in Psalms 137:9, regardless of it being NT or OT, which means, God can change his mind on being compassionate or a mean bastard, they why follow him?  If you see the same actions in a human being today, that would be considered psychopathic, sociopathic, and with all that has been done according to the Bible, worthy of prison, and in many states in the US, the death penalty.  WHY....WHY do you folllow such a psychopathic being? 

 

Well you gotta remember, the Bible is written by man, and there’s certain thrills in life such as killing a person I believe to be one from watching movies tbh. Well also assuming from PTSD and various obvious reasons.

 

But that’s why it deserves the death penalty. Child molesters deserve the death penalty, they have an addiction to murdering the souls of innocent children.

 

Certain deeds will ruin people for life which is why soldiers stay soldiers, and it’s better for some to go straight to God such as adulterers and murderers. Everyone’s heard once a cheater, always a cheater.

 

David was far from perfect, but everyone already knows that. I think Christianity had something to do with King Solomon’s prayer to God speaking of David’s family.

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39 minutes ago, JimmyfoJesus said:

 

Well you gotta remember, the Bible is written by man, and there’s certain thrills in life such as killing a person I believe to be one from watching movies tbh. Well also assuming from PTSD and various obvious reasons.

 

But that’s why it deserves the death penalty. Child molesters deserve the death penalty, they have an addiction to murdering the souls of innocent children.

 

Certain deeds will ruin people for life which is why soldiers stay soldiers, and it’s better for some to go straight to God such as adulterers and murderers. Everyone’s heard once a cheater, always a cheater.

 

David was far from perfect, but everyone already knows that. I think Christianity had something to do with King Solomon’s prayer to God speaking of David’s family.

@JimmyfoJesus Do you have a mental illness? One thing I know about about that disorder is that a lot of schizophrenic people gravitate towards religion, porn and drugs. They use those thing's as a crutch to deal with their hyper mental conditions.

 

If you do have a mental illness & you are psychotic then you've got to go to the hospital ASAP, because you'll degrade mentally inside month and not be able to function or make any coherent sense. But if you are not aware of any mental issues, go get checked out anyway, because reading what you just said sounds psychotic.

 

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On 5/4/2018 at 7:52 AM, JimmyfoJesus said:

Haha you guys miss me already? I’m just in the midst of writing Acts 2.0 and Proverbs 2.0.

 

The thing about my view is I know Christianity worked for me once upon a time, and I know it does not now.

 

I know Proverbs works as a guide to life, but you have to have a mindset that you’re working to get to Heaven at all costs and keep a loving heart to God.

 

So you ask, do you need God to love your neighbor? I don’t know for you, but for me, I do, or I lose my motivation.

 

I guess it goes back to the old saying that I’d rather be played for a fool in this lifetime than to be treated like a fool in the next or however it goes lol

 

"I guess it goes back to the old saying that I’d rather be played for a fool in this lifetime than to be treated like a fool in the next or however it goes lol"

 

Played for a fool is about the same as considered a fool, right?

 

Not a bad saying if there were a next life, heaven, hell, reincarnation etc.

 

But if there really weren't any afterlives and the bible is just a fantasy,  then the believer not only would be considered a fool by folks like us, but he really would be a misguided fool in that respect, right?

 

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9 hours ago, theanticrash said:

Why can't Jimmy see what's going on in his head, has he gone totally bonkers that he believes he's the one. He's writing what? New scripture? I hope I don't see Jimmy on the news because he started a new cult following. 

 

 

Actually Jimmy is tame for a Christian visitor to ex-C.  I can respect that.

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13 hours ago, theanticrash said:

You can't use your own strength, it takes the power of God's spirit to open your eye's, to soften your hard heart, to reveal his presence, to heal your dead soul, ect ect

 

Remember the 99 sheep God left to find that one lost sheep, he traveled wide and far until he found the sheep. He carried it all the way back to the flock on his shoulder's only to find when he returned that the other 99 sheep were all dead.

 

See how important you are to him.

 

 

Well then crash, gheeze dude, enlighten us and tell us how and why and where our feelings go from having disdain for a person or thing to opting for compassion. 

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4 minutes ago, end3 said:

Well then crash, gheeze dude, enlighten us and tell us how and why and where our feelings go from having disdain for a person or thing to opting for compassion. 

Please explain?

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2 hours ago, mymistake said:

 

 

Actually Jimmy is tame for a Christian visitor to ex-C.  I can respect that.

Tame in what way?

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43 minutes ago, end3 said:

Well then crash, gheeze dude, enlighten us and tell us how and why and where our feelings go from having disdain for a person or thing to opting for compassion. 

 

 

We are not Christians anymore.  We don't have an obligation.  There is no rule to force us to be compassionate, especially when the compassion has not been earned.

 

However it is common to feel compassion when you see another human in pain or struggling to survive.

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25 minutes ago, theanticrash said:

Please explain?

You appeared to be mocking whatever the mechanism it is we humans possess for changing our hearts, our minds.  The problem I see with your statement is you can mockery, but I doubt you can explain the mechanism from your point of view.  Was just asking you to please explain what I consider the Holy Spirit.  thanks.

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2 minutes ago, mymistake said:

 

 

We are not Christians anymore.  We don't have an obligation.  There is no rule to force us to be compassionate, especially when the compassion has not been earned.

 

However it is common to feel compassion when you see another human in pain or struggling to survive.

I'm not asking anyone to be compassionate, I'm asking you or anyone to adequately, key word, adequately, explain the ability to view a situation, or change our minds from a natural, animal instinct to a compassionate, higher level train of thought.  How does that work.

 

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27 minutes ago, theanticrash said:

Tame in what way?

 

 

You should read some of the old posts from JayL or barnacleben if you want to see what a Creep-4-Christ looks like.  Over the years I've seen all kinds of horrible people who come here to save the lost.  If Christians are too abusive they get banned real quick.

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Just now, end3 said:

I'm not asking anyone to be compassionate, I'm asking you or anyone to adequately, key word, adequately, explain the ability to view a situation, or change our minds from a natural, animal instinct to a compassionate, higher level train of thought.  How does that work.

 

 

You would agree that long ago people didn't live in houses.  We lived in small groups - tribes.  A tribe might be four to six families.  If you were part of one of those tribes then your survival depended on the strength of your whole tribe.  So if somebody in your tribe was hurt you had a better chance to survive or even thrive if they recovered.  You had a vested interest in everybody in your tribe.  Our compassionate ancestors survived better than their un-compassionate cousins.

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24 minutes ago, end3 said:

You appeared to be mocking whatever the mechanism it is we humans possess for changing our hearts, our minds.  The problem I see with your statement is you can mockery, but I doubt you can explain the mechanism from your point of view.  Was just asking you to please explain what I consider the Holy Spirit.  thanks.

Changing your heart for Jesus? Or changing your heart from Jesus?

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On 5/5/2018 at 1:46 PM, end3 said:

I'm not asking anyone to be compassionate, I'm asking you or anyone to adequately, key word, adequately, explain the ability to view a situation, or change our minds from a natural, animal instinct to a compassionate, higher level train of thought.  How does that work.

 

"....I'm asking you or anyone to adequately.......explain the ability to view a situation, or change our minds from a natural, animal instinct to a compassionate, higher level train of thought.  How does that work(?)"

 

Of course it depends on the individual, totally separate from religion. As an example, I am a total atheist and would bet my immortal soul (since I know there are none) against a six pack of the buyers choice. Yet, I certainly am compassionate, sympathetic and have helped many, both physically and monetarily, who have hard times probably through no fault of their own. I belong to a number of charities, am a board member of two of them, and expect and hope for nothing in return. I was raised that way. I believe empathy and compassion are also natural human instincts for most people because of our mental advantages over other animals.

 

Additionally, my morals now are better than when I was a Christian, but I now think that religions are better suited for the mentally weak, and that fornication is super cool :)

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On 5/5/2018 at 1:41 PM, mymistake said:

 

 

We are not Christians anymore.  We don't have an obligation.  There is no rule to force us to be compassionate, especially when the compassion has not been earned.

 

However it is common to feel compassion when you see another human in pain or struggling to survive.

 

Yeah, and God placed a rule book on it. Christians just haven’t realized you go by the Old Covenant now.

 

Hatred of evil is the way of the righteous which is something Christians won’t say. If you remove all hatred, you get complacency though.

 

I’m saying the world’s changed in 10 years, and if you did have good years once upon a time and did it for a while, think back to why you used to do it.

 

Look into what God expects and realize it’s not that bad.

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On ‎5‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 2:23 AM, JimmyfoJesus said:

Certain deeds will ruin people for life which is why soldiers stay soldiers, and it’s better for some to go straight to God such as adulterers and murderers. Everyone’s heard once a cheater, always a cheater.

 

Putting adultery and murder in the same category is a bit rich. Care to explain your reasoning there?

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On 5/5/2018 at 9:23 AM, JimmyfoJesus said:

 

Well you gotta remember, the Bible is written by man, and there’s certain thrills in life such as killing a person I believe to be one from watching movies tbh. Well also assuming from PTSD and various obvious reasons.

 

But that’s why it deserves the death penalty. Child molesters deserve the death penalty, they have an addiction to murdering the souls of innocent children.

 

Certain deeds will ruin people for life which is why soldiers stay soldiers, and it’s better for some to go straight to God such as adulterers and murderers. Everyone’s heard once a cheater, always a cheater.

 

David was far from perfect, but everyone already knows that. I think Christianity had something to do with King Solomon’s prayer to God speaking of David’s family.

 

Jimmy,

 

But it says...."Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Psalms 137:9"  Children....REALLY?

 

Is the Bible the "word of God" or isn't it? 

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57 minutes ago, JimmyfoJesus said:

 

Yeah, and God placed a rule book on it. Christians just haven’t realized you go by the Old Covenant now.

 

Hatred of evil is the way of the righteous which is something Christians won’t say. If you remove all hatred, you get complacency though.

 

I’m saying the world’s changed in 10 years, and if you did have good years once upon a time and did it for a while, think back to why you used to do it.

 

Look into what God expects and realize it’s not that bad.

Hatred of evil doesn't defeat evil it only prolongs it, understanding evil would have a far better impact. In fact hatred could be considered an evil act in itself, it has no power to resolve those actions, it doesn't help create real world solutions. But if we could learn why people did terrible thing's & not just hate them for it, we could create methods of detection early on..

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33 minutes ago, Burnedout said:

 

Jimmy,

 

But it says...."Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Psalms 137:9"  Children....REALLY?

 

Is the Bible the "word of God" or isn't it? 

So many time's I've pointed out verses like this to Christian's, but they don't seem to understand the reality of how awful their God is.

 

It's Stockholm syndrome.

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