Castiel233 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I spoke about this before, but why did Nabeel Qureshi die of cancer. He was a popular Christian speaker and author. He died at the age of 34. He vlogged about his illness, saying over and over that God was going to heal him, the miracle was coming. His followers wrote thousand of prayer messages on his face-book page, demanding that "The cancer be gone, in the name of Jesus", and so on. Yet still he died, steadfast in his conviction that Jesus would heal him. Why didn't god heal him.... What happened to ask in prayer and it will be given to you. Nabeel had a wife and young daughter, He didn't want to die and frequently asked God for the miracle of healing. A healing that never came. After his death, his wife spent the days leading up to his burial, in prayer asking God to bring him back to life (with God ALL things are possible), She only stopped praying for this, after he went into the grave. Here was a sincere, Bible believing Christian, asking for healing and it not happening. He actually discounted a healing in Heaven, as this was a cop out. He wanted and expected a healing on Earth.. Very sad for his family. He believed and loved God, yet still his prayers went unanswered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOHO Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 <sarc> This MUST be fake news. It clearly says in the Bible, in several places, that ANYTHING asked for, in the name of Jesus, that the request WILL be granted. I suggest you circle back and validate the report of his demise. </sarc> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinntar Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 11 hours ago, Castiel233 said: I spoke about this before, but why did Nabeel Qureshi die of cancer. He was a popular Christian speaker and author. He died at the age of 34. He vlogged about his illness, saying over and over that God was going to heal him, the miracle was coming. His followers wrote thousand of prayer messages on his face-book page, demanding that "The cancer be gone, in the name of Jesus", and so on. Yet still he died, steadfast in his conviction that Jesus would heal him. Why didn't god heal him.... What happened to ask in prayer and it will be given to you. Nabeel had a wife and young daughter, He didn't want to die and frequently asked God for the miracle of healing. A healing that never came. After his death, his wife spent the days leading up to his burial, in prayer asking God to bring him back to life (with God ALL things are possible), She only stopped praying for this, after he went into the grave. Here was a sincere, Bible believing Christian, asking for healing and it not happening. He actually discounted a healing in Heaven, as this was a cop out. He wanted and expected a healing on Earth.. Very sad for his family. He believed and loved God, yet still his prayers went unanswered. Yet in the face of overwhelming evidence that all those believers prayer's went unanswered, shouldn't this shock the common Christian? So they think about these events and say "Hang on a minute, why didn't my prayer's work?" It's truly sadness, if religion would only go away we'd all find out how much we have in common. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffodil Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Very sad indeed, but don't you worry because /sarc/ God's ways are mysterious. It is the sin of pride to question Him. God needed Nabeel in heaven with Him. God must have thought Nabeel's work on earth was finished. God used Nabeel's suffering as a testimony of faith in the face of tragedy. All things work together for good to those that love God. It was time for Nabeel to go to his forever home in heaven. We should be rejoicing! God has a plan for Nabeel's wife and daughter. Nabeel's suffering strengthened his character and made him more Christlike. We have no right to question God. He made the earth and the heavens. Who are we to question Him!? Rationalization - the cure for any and all cognitive dissonance. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ Fuego ♦ Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Reality keeps smacking believers in the face, and they instantly redefine the precious promises of God to mean _________. Until the next time when they claim them and claim them until <SMACK>, redefine as _____. The promises of god are empty because there is no one there to even hear the prayers. But believers are not allowed to entertain such thoughts because that would make god angry at them, endangering their salvation, so instead he suddenly has an unknown "better plan" and he's GOOD ALL THE TIME AND ALL THE TIME HE'S GOOD AND IN TOTAL CONTROL!!!111!! Glory! It is sad to watch. I had a serious problem with this when I was a believer, and justified it by saying that we are in more sin than we realize and are keeping him away by our refusal to be holy. That is bullshit, but at the time it fit perfectly in with the Pentecostal view that god wants you to die and become submitted to his whims. Those whims are whatever happens to you. Blecch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinntar Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I thought of cognitive dissonance, then I thought of this Family Guy clip of Peter just not getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel233 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 43 minutes ago, Daffodil said: Very sad indeed, but don't you worry because /sarc/ God's ways are mysterious. It is the sin of pride to question Him. God needed Nabeel in heaven with Him. God must have thought Nabeel's work on earth was finished. God used Nabeel's suffering as a testimony of faith in the face of tragedy. All things work together for good to those that love God. It was time for Nabeel to go to his forever home in heaven. We should be rejoicing! God has a plan for Nabeel's wife and daughter. Nabeel's suffering strengthened his character and made him more Christlike. We have no right to question God. He made the earth and the heavens. Who are we to question Him!? Rationalization - the cure for any and all cognitive dissonance. The above is so true, and in fact, Nabeel, pretty much used a similar thought process with his suffering. Christian's usually shoot a hole THEN paint a target around it, it's rarely the other way around. As most of you know, Hitchens died of cancer.....what could be a Christian response: God's ways are mysterious. It is the sin of atheism to question Him. God needed Hitchens as a warning to others. God must have thought Hitchens false work on earth was finished. God used Hitchens suffering as a warning of the lack faith in the face of tragedy. All things work together for as punishment for those who deny God It was a time for Hitchens to be given chance to repent . We should be rejoicing! God has a plan for Hitchens, and it aint pretty Hitchens suffering strengthened God's righteous anger. We have no right to question God. He made the earth and the heavens. Who are we to question Him!? Christian have all the answers, after an event. Could it be that cancer is a natural illness sent by rouge DNA and prayer is not answered as there is no one at the other end to pick up the phone. I think it is a bit rich for believers to claim that God does answer prayer despite the over whelming evidence to the contrary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 This guy probably wasn't a True Christian(tm). God knows these things. mwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinntar Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, mwc said: This guy probably wasn't a True Christian(tm). God knows these things. mwc The only real Christian was Jesus, and he's been alone for a long time waiting for just one believer to return to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, theanticrash said: The only real Christian was Jesus, and he's been alone for a long time waiting for just one believer to return to him. Oh, you'd think so but you'd be wrong. It's a trick question. There's never been actually been one. Thanks for playing. It's been great having you. mwc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffodil Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 5 hours ago, theanticrash said: The only real Christian was Jesus, and he's been alone for a long time waiting for just one believer to return to him. Nope, he was a Jew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinntar Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Daffodil said: Nope, he was a Jew! With long hair and blue eyes, I know. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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