justaskingquestions 28 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 What has been the most liberating part of leaving Christianity? Most difficult? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator Margee 3,668 Posted June 27, 2018 Moderator Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, justaskingquestions said: What has been the most liberating part of leaving Christianity? Most difficult? For me, it was the constant worrying if I was pleasing 'god'. It so wonderful to be free of that! So glad you are here with us!! Hope you find all the liberation that you need here at Ex-c to lead a peaceful life! (hug) 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orbit 823 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Most liberating: getting rid of the frustration of never having God answer back. There was always a feeling of banging my head against a wall, and that was gone. Most difficult: getting rid of the childhood indoctrination and giving up the idea of an afterlife. Welcome to the site! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MOHO 1,866 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Most Liberating: Not having to worry about being torchered for eternity for something far beyond my control and not having any means, whatsoever, of knowing for sure if I made the cut. Toughest part: Coming to the realization that this life is all there is. Going forward: Make this life the most rewarding that I can within reason. Question/Decision: Can I do the above while being married to a very firm, devout fundamental Xtian? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator TABA 1,785 Posted June 27, 2018 Moderator Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 So @MOHO is this your way of telling us you now identify as a woman? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MOHO 1,866 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, ThereAndBackAgain said: So @MOHO is this your way of telling us you now identify as a woman? OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! I guess with all of the divisive and gender-based politics of late I should pay more attention to titles and instructions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MOHO 1,866 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, ThereAndBackAgain said: So @MOHO is this your way of telling us you now identify as a woman? I can decide what I want to be anytime I choose and YOU are not to call me out on it. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anushka 106 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Most liberating: The constant fear and confusion is gone. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 @MOHO can be an honourary woman here. Most liberating: not wondering when God was going to stop with giving me all those "trials" that were testing my faith. Not wondering what his purpose was. Being free from all the guilt over my "sins". No longer constantly watching what I was doing or saying. No more fear about non believers asking me to justify my beliefs. No longer feeling strange because I didn't fit the typical fundie mold (a mom with 10 kids). Being able to think and reason however much I want, hands down, that's the winner. Most difficult: dealing with family and friends in the aftermath Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MOHO 1,866 Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, TruthSeeker0 said: @MOHO can be an honourary woman here. Would it be a social faux paux if I passed on this honour? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 46 minutes ago, TruthSeeker0 said: 30 minutes ago, MOHO said: Would it be a social faux paux if I passed on this honour? Not at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ag_NO_stic 1,225 Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 My answer applies to both your questions. As a woman, there is nothing more freeing than realizing that "submission" was not some bullshit command from god, it's man made. So the most liberating part of my deconversion is feeling free to make my own gd decisions, not rely on my dad or husband for some kind of final say. The most frustrating aspect of this is that my father/family is not on board with this, so it can make for some fairly frustrating encounters. My husband is not the "submit!" kind of man, but I have to battle with my father on my right to think for myself. My dad still thinks that if he had not "given authority to my husband," and was still "in charge," than I wouldn't have "fallen away." 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lucy 307 Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 I'm glad to not have to spend time worrying over nonsense anymore. I always had this nagging feeling I needed to be worrying about what god wants me to do. I spent much time contemplating how close my understandings of god and his will were accurate. I always felt like a lot of the laws were not really from god but rather added in by priests to give them more control over their followers. And the anti-female parts were in there because the bible was written by men. That didn't stop the nagging feelings like I'm doing something wrong by not following the bible accurately. The most difficult thing was accepting that everyone who has died is most likely gone for real. It felt like losing deceased loved ones all over again. The other difficult part was accepting that all the time and resources that were wasted studying and worshiping a false deity were truly in vain. Switching one's timeline from infinite to very finite really changes the perception of how much wasted time really matters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super Moderator florduh 5,887 Posted June 29, 2018 Super Moderator Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 We all began life as female. Some just got the male upgrade. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super Moderator florduh 5,887 Posted June 29, 2018 Super Moderator Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 Please forgive my humor in the context of a jab at any current anti female sentiments floating about. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Riven 172 Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 Well, speaking as a former worship team member..... and I would like to note that was not allowed to be a worship team LEADER....... I'm pretty happy that I don't have to play guitar under the leadership of someone with far less talent than I have. Of course, I'm not playing guitar right now.... lots to work out there... but I digress. I no longer have to worry that as a woman, I'm not qualified to teach a man. I no longer have to hide the fact that I'm divorced from a short-lived, abusive marriage 18 years ago, that evidently, disqualifies me for even participating on said worship team. I no longer have to have to couch every idea I come up with as "probably not a good idea but...." so I'm being properly submissive to my male church leaders. I no longer have only knitting, sewing, and scrapbooking events to choose from in my spare time, because evidently, that's the deepest Christian women go in ministry ideas. That's just the first things that came to me in the moments I took to write this. I'm sure there's more. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super Moderator buffettphan 1,368 Posted June 29, 2018 Super Moderator Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 17 hours ago, florduh said: We all began life as female. Some just got the male upgrade. Upgrade? I thought that was a jerry-rigged after market ad-on because god forgot what he was doing on the first go-round. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JenniferG 122 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 On 6/27/2018 at 11:33 AM, justaskingquestions said: What has been the most liberating part of leaving Christianity? Most difficult? The most liberating? Not having to pray - at night before I go to sleep (what a chore that was!) and saying grace before mealtimes! And not having to read the bloody bible and pretending it made sense to me, or feeling guilty when it didn't! To be connected to myself rather than having surrendered my heart, my soul, my MIND to Christ. To never be submissive to anyone ever again! To feel free to put myself first The most difficult? Finding real friendship and social connection with like-minded people. Mind you, I can't say I really had that with Christian friends. But at least there was the Sunday social connection. Hopefully, with time, that will happen when I fulfill my own destiny 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daffodil 1,276 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Most liberating - Not having to consciously turn my brain off to accept the ridiculous ideas my faith insisted I believe. Most difficult - Hiding it from friends/family. Some know now, some don't. Still difficult. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
justaskingquestions 28 Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Daffodil said: Most difficult - Hiding it from friends/family. Some know now, some don't. Still difficult. For me too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geezer 3,787 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 On June 27, 2018 at 6:15 PM, MOHO said: Would it be a social faux paux if I passed on this honour? As long as you don't switch from boxers to a thong I'm cool with it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LostinParis 239 Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Most liberating: No longer feeling shame around sexual pleasure 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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