NeverHealed52Years Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Now you don't need a DNA kit to find out about your very long-term ancestral line. Scientists in the US and Switzerland have announced an amazing revelation – all modern humans are descended from a common father and mother who appeared on the scene 100,000 to 200,000 years ago after a cataclysmic event almost wiped out the human race. Although the researchers believe in an evolutionary explanation and are not pointing to the biblical Adam and Eve, or even to Noah and his wife, their DNA discovery has stirred a lot of debate. It may prove to be one of the most challenging studies ever undertaken and it brings up a huge mystery. What happened to wipe out almost all life on the planet, leaving behind the people who would become the mother and father to us all? The Daily Mail reports that these new findings throw into doubt the patterns of evolution currently accepted by the scientific community at large. The research was led by Senior Research Associate Mark Stoeckle and Research Associate David Thaler of the University of Basel, Switzerland and was published in the journal Human Evolution. Researchers say they studied the genetic "barcodes" from five million types of animals and humans – some 100,000 species – to reach their conclusions. The barcodes are snippets of DNA that reside outside the nuclei of living cells – so-called mitochondrial DNA, which mothers pass down from generation to generation. Stoeckle and Thaler also found that 90 percent of all animal species alive today come from parents who all began giving birth around the same time, somewhere around 250,000 years ago. Fox News reports the study does line up with the Bible in two notable ways. Fox states: 1. It confirms that we and our fellow creatures on Earth arose from a recent and profound creation event, orchestrated by some unknown mechanism. 2. The DNA barcodes reveal that species are quantized. Instead of there being a continuum of animal varieties, as one might expect from millions of years of gradual evolution, creatures fall into very distinct, widely separated populations – what the Bible describes as "kinds," from the Hebrew word "min." So at a time when people tend to look at the differences in each other in terms of race, social status, etc., scientists suggest that when we refer to our fellow man, we're actually referring to our genetic brothers and sisters. "At a time when humans place so much emphasis on individual and group differences, maybe we should spend more time on the ways in which we resemble one another and the rest of the animal kingdom," Dr. Mark Stoeckle told The Daily Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 oh I cant wait for the SGU podcast to unpack this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☆ pantheory ☆ Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, NeverHealed52Years said: Now you don't need a DNA kit to find out about your very long-term ancestral line. Scientists in the US and Switzerland have announced an amazing revelation – all modern humans are descended from a common father and mother who appeared on the scene 100,000 to 200,000 years ago after a cataclysmic event almost wiped out the human race. Although the researchers believe in an evolutionary explanation and are not pointing to the biblical Adam and Eve, or even to Noah and his wife, their DNA discovery has stirred a lot of debate. It may prove to be one of the most challenging studies ever undertaken and it brings up a huge mystery. What happened to wipe out almost all life on the planet, leaving behind the people who would become the mother and father to us all? The Daily Mail reports that these new findings throw into doubt the patterns of evolution currently accepted by the scientific community at large. The research was led by Senior Research Associate Mark Stoeckle and Research Associate David Thaler of the University of Basel, Switzerland and was published in the journal Human Evolution. Researchers say they studied the genetic "barcodes" from five million types of animals and humans – some 100,000 species – to reach their conclusions. The barcodes are snippets of DNA that reside outside the nuclei of living cells – so-called mitochondrial DNA, which mothers pass down from generation to generation. Stoeckle and Thaler also found that 90 percent of all animal species alive today come from parents who all began giving birth around the same time, somewhere around 250,000 years ago. Fox News reports the study does line up with the Bible in two notable ways. Fox states: 1. It confirms that we and our fellow creatures on Earth arose from a recent and profound creation event, orchestrated by some unknown mechanism. 2. The DNA barcodes reveal that species are quantized. Instead of there being a continuum of animal varieties, as one might expect from millions of years of gradual evolution, creatures fall into very distinct, widely separated populations – what the Bible describes as "kinds," from the Hebrew word "min." So at a time when people tend to look at the differences in each other in terms of race, social status, etc., scientists suggest that when we refer to our fellow man, we're actually referring to our genetic brothers and sisters. "At a time when humans place so much emphasis on individual and group differences, maybe we should spend more time on the ways in which we resemble one another and the rest of the animal kingdom," Dr. Mark Stoeckle told The Daily Mail. The Fox news report on this study draws obviously wrong conclusions which seem to be religion based. Even the study's own conclusions IMO will be knocked down as to all of humanity descending form a single father and mother. For example, those who have studied anthropology know that we have Neanderthal genes in most human DNA, especially Europeans and Asians. It is believed that Neanderthals evolved from Homo Erectus as we did, the oldest fossil being about 430,00 years old. It is thought that Homo Erectus (Homoerectus) first evolved in east Africa since most of their fossils have been found there, the oldest of which date back to more than 1.5 million years. The very oldest was found in the country of Georgia and dates to about 1.8 million years old . There is much fossil evidence for this type of human in Africa, Europe, and Asia. Homo Erectus is thought to have been our direct ancestors, classified in the same genus Homo --- our species is called Sapien, the name Homosapiens for both our genus and species together as a plural. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag_NO_stic Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 None of us know. -shrug- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LogicalFallacy Posted November 30, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 30, 2018 Links to the actual study, not a news report? Be wary of 'ground breaking' science that's reported via mainstream media with their interpretations. Considering that it's the Daily Mail and Fox news reporting I'm already skeptical of their interpretation. Normally studies of such importance should be published in journals... I FOUND IT. For the bible doth say "Seek and ye shall find" https://phe.rockefeller.edu/news/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/FINAL-Human-Evolution-PHE-news-release-spring-2018-002.pdf Apparently we are far from "special". Damn, and here I thought were were the center of the universe. {Edit} Wait that wasn't the study. FOUND IT https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/06/13/276717.full.pdf A conversation about the study: https://discourse.peacefulscience.org/t/did-all-species-arise-about-200-000-years-ago/285/5 Interesting to note that 90% of species according to the study can be traced back 100-200k years ago. So what about the other 10%? Don't worry this study doesn't prove Eden or Noah's flood (The 10% takes care of that) Oooh one scientist is not happy. Some quotes from him: Quote Well, i’m surprised and disappointed. They got it past peer review, and this article is just full of absurd reasoning. They are just plain wrong. Don’t give them so much credit. This study is going to get trashed be scientistis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthSeeker0 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Quotes from the Daily Mail and Fox News - yeah I can't even be bothered reading it fully, as those have so little credence. I'll wait until some news outlet with credibility actually publishes something with actual links to the study. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 There is a rather large difference between the analytical accuracy, methods, understanding and inferential ability of mtDNA analysis (i.e., mitochondrial DNA) compared to nuclear DNA analysis (i.e., germ line DNA). This study tends to ignore those differences and is rather hyperbolic. Of course, how it has been reported to the public through the media is even moreso. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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