Miriam Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 I'm sorry, I've tried to have respectful conversation here, and it is not possible - I have been accused of being closed minded, but confronted with the same. I really don't think the majority of people on this forum are like that at all, just the very noisy ones. Could you please help me by posting links to helpful sources that contain information on your point of view, things like how you see history in contradiction to Christianity, any personal belief reasons why it makes no sense etc. Not books, I can't afford it. Thank you for your replies. I will not respond to nasty posts in answer to this post. It is up to you now how you want to represent yourselves. Also, a thank you to the people here, like MOHO, who have treated me well. Miriam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted December 29, 2018 Super Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 Since getting to the library is problematic, attached is a pdf of a book I would highly recommend you read to start with. Sadly, the document only contains the first 2 chapters of the book. Good luck and godspeed. the godvirus_intro_1_2.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miriam Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 Thank you, RedNeck - that wasn't so hard, eh? As I said, I can't afford to buy books but I will definitely read the first two chapters you have supplied. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted December 29, 2018 Super Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 There are also a few websites you could visit: https://godisimaginary.com https://whywontgodhealamputees.com https://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessindixie/ Hope this helps. TRP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miriam Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 Yes, that looks very helpful. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted December 29, 2018 Super Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 You could watch these right here, but better to use a phone or tablet with earbuds. There's really nothing to see. The God Delusion is rather informative on the specific topic of gods. It is available as a free audio book on YouTube. There are many, many of these on YouTube also. Very informative with a one to one caller format. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted December 29, 2018 Super Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 Y'all keep in mind that her speakers don't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miriam Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 Yes - thanks, RedNeck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted December 29, 2018 Super Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 If you do get your speakers sorted, listen to this: https://m.soundcloud.com/prpl-fox You could also watch the videos on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/user/Prplfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted December 29, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 Just now, Miriam said: Yes - thanks, RedNeck! Oops, sorry about that Miriam. Here's a good read: 1936 reasons christianity is not true. http://www.kyroot.com/?p=8 (hug) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miriam Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 RedNeck - I'll save the links in case. You never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted December 29, 2018 Super Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 There is also this poem that speaks volumes for all of us. Might be hard to believe; but it actually makes me tear up a bit every time I read it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miriam Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 Margee - I very much liked the Please Forgive Me? piece that RedNeck just shared. I definitely understand, from that post, why you couldn't stay in Christianity. Thank you. Out of respect, I will not share what I believe, but I wish you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted December 29, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 35 minutes ago, Miriam said: any personal belief reasons why it makes no sense etc. Miriam, here is my testimony: Hope it helps you understand why I am here at ex-c and not in church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted December 29, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 Just now, Miriam said: Margee - I very much liked the Please Forgive Me? piece that RedNeck just shared. I definitely understand, from that post, why you couldn't stay in Christianity. Thank you. Out of respect, I will not share what I believe, but I wish you well. Lol, I can't believe I just sent it to you!! It's a miracle!! Lol See? We are fun to play with!! Remember dear, every one of us on this board was once a very good, loving Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miriam Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, Margee said: See? We are fun to play with!! Remember dear, every one of us on this board was once a very good, loving Christian. I didn't doubt it - some of you just need to cool off a bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miriam Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 I do want to admit - mainly I was laughing at your passionate posts to me - so worked up about me believing in a religion you don't care about. If you regard my beliefs with contempt, why care what I say at all? And honestly, I thought some of you were being a bit childish. Hopefully, we understand each other a bit better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted December 29, 2018 Super Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 Yeah, I know. I'm an angry young man, right? Maybe this will help you understand why: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted December 29, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, Miriam said: If you regard my beliefs with contempt, why care what I say at all? We don't really care what you say sweetie. We have had hundreds of christians on this site. Our hope in posting back to you is to deconvert you! We all know our bibles. I already know what you would say about my letter. I already know what you believe because I believed it also. I studied the bible for many, many years. The basic problem most of our christians friends have that join our company is that they have a hard time with the fact that none of us believe that the bible is 'gods' word' anymore and you still do. That's why we can't take the 'holy' book you are quoting from seriously. So keep having fun sweetie. We really don't bite but if you use too much bible bull, you're going to get back real reasoning. We live by evidence and facts. You live by faith in a man-made, ancient book that man wrote. I wasted my whole life on this fable. (hug) 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miriam Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, Margee said: We don't really care what you say sweetie I know - that's my point - why get so upset? We live be evidence and facts... well, we won't get into that one, eh? Don't try to deconvert me, I won't try to covert you, and we'll all get along. Also, let's not make assumptions - you don't know what I was going to say. I've been reading what you guys believe/believed as well, you know! I'm not a fool, believe it or not, despite my medieval beliefs You don't actually know me, only what you wanted to get in response. All your questions were well rehearsed. OK, I'll try to stop laughing at you, now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthSeeker0 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 34 minutes ago, Miriam said: I do want to admit - mainly I was laughing at your passionate posts to me - so worked up about me believing in a religion you don't care about. If you regard my beliefs with contempt, why care what I say at all? And honestly, I thought some of you were being a bit childish. Hopefully, we understand each other a bit better now. Most of us care what Christians have to say because some of it can be downright dangerous and hurtful towards other people. Taken as a whole, we care what you say because you don't base your worldview in logic and reason but blind "faith", which can lead to some pretty bad outcomes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miriam Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 Hey, angry young man! Isn't it nicer to be friendly? Thanks for sharing your (long) story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Margee Posted December 29, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 29, 2018 Just now, Miriam said: I know - that's my point - why get so upset? We live be evidence and facts... well, we won't get into that one, eh? Don't try to deconvert me, I won't try to covert you, and we'll all get along. Also, let's not make assumptions - you don't know what I was going to say. I've been reading what you guys believe/believed as well, you know! I'm not a fool, believe it or not, despite my medieval beliefs You don't actually know me, only what you wanted to get in response. All your questions were well rehearsed. OK, I'll try to stop laughing at you, now I'm not one bit upset honey. I think you are a sweetheart who is brainwashed by religion the same as I was. You are the one who wanted to see why we deconverted? What exactly do you believe that I didn't believe? Win me back girl!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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