midniterider Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Well, I'm planning a several day trip which will include an overnight stay with a fundy relative. I will be in their vehicle and at their mercy so I'm planning ahead in my mind how to kindly counter any questions as to my current religious status. I think it might be kind of fun to have this conversation. I dont necessarily have a problem getting across that I've returned to my heathen ways but it might be fun to kindly put forth questions such as : 1. Does Jesus have a personal relationship with me? If so, why do I need to read the bible. Is his personal relationship exactly like everyone else's personal relationship? And if so, that doesnt seem very personal or unique. Sounds more like boot camp. 2. If Hell is a possibility for non-compliance then how can my love ever be sincere if I'm not really that interested in Christianity? Does faking it get you into Heaven? It would be fun to hit my relative with some questions. Though these ex-c debate ideas aren't anything new, I'd like to find a kind way to present them. This relative may not actually ask me if I'm still a believer or not, but I'm sure I'll be hearing about Jesus while I'm there. I'm interested in the angle of "why" would I want to be a follower of Jesus when I have no interest in it. Because that's my feeling towards Christianity. Anything you want to throw at me, I'll consider presenting. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ Weezer ◊ Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 It may turn out like some of my situations have. A few times I planned how to respond to them, and wanted them to bring up religion, but no one brought up the subject. And I no longer am the one to bring it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wertbag Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I would try to avoid any discussion, no need to burn any bridges if you don't have to. You could probably already guess the answers you will get, they'll be the same thoughtless repetition of what they were taught. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
older Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Talking to fundies about religion is like talking to the wall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinas Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I wish you well. If that is your idea of fun, then I hope you get a good laugh. Personally, I think I would do the calculation of the relative hardness of the wall and of my head, and decide not repeatedly bashing the latter against the former is the best available headache remedy. Seriously - your biggest problem might be avoiding this turning nasty. Your relative is unlikely to find your questions "fun", unless you present them very carefully indeed - but not being challenging would rather defeat the object.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 24, 2019 Super Moderator Share Posted January 24, 2019 Did toddler jesus ever heal himself when he got a boo-boo on his knee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted January 24, 2019 Super Moderator Share Posted January 24, 2019 Carry with you a copy of "Dianetics." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 Hmmm, maybe I'll just pretend to be a Christian for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ DestinyTurtle ◊ Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I'm with @Wertbag above. I would avoid discussion if possible. If they keep bringing up religion in a way that makes you uncomfortable then you can set a firm boundary simply by saying would rather not talk about that, and you should not have to explain yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsCabanaBoy Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 On 1/23/2019 at 1:44 PM, midniterider said: Well, I'm planning a several day trip which will include an overnight stay with a fundy relative. I will be in their vehicle and at their mercy so I'm planning ahead in my mind how to kindly counter any questions as to my current religious status. I think it might be kind of fun to have this conversation. I dont necessarily have a problem getting across that I've returned to my heathen ways but it might be fun to kindly put forth questions such as : 1. Does Jesus have a personal relationship with me? If so, why do I need to read the bible. Is his personal relationship exactly like everyone else's personal relationship? And if so, that doesnt seem very personal or unique. Sounds more like boot camp. 2. If Hell is a possibility for non-compliance then how can my love ever be sincere if I'm not really that interested in Christianity? Does faking it get you into Heaven? It would be fun to hit my relative with some questions. Though these ex-c debate ideas aren't anything new, I'd like to find a kind way to present them. This relative may not actually ask me if I'm still a believer or not, but I'm sure I'll be hearing about Jesus while I'm there. I'm interested in the angle of "why" would I want to be a follower of Jesus when I have no interest in it. Because that's my feeling towards Christianity. Anything you want to throw at me, I'll consider presenting. Thanks. I have an idea! You know what used to piss me off the most, when people shut me down when I'm telling them something I think they need to know. I know I can be a intrusive little shit, but now I learn in that moment and don't get all shitty about it. Just say "Sorry I don't want to talk about it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries256 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Ugh, well that’s what headphones with viking, death, and heavy metal is for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsCabanaBoy Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Aries256 said: Ugh, well that’s what headphones with viking, death, and heavy metal is for And refried beans with cabbage the night before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries256 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Tripqing said: And refried beans with cabbage the night before. Ooooh thats so delightfully evil I like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsCabanaBoy Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Aries256 said: Ooooh thats so delightfully evil I like https://youtu.be/ve4PRaA5y48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsCabanaBoy Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Aries256 said: Ooooh thats so delightfully evil I like 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries256 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 HAHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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