JohnnyWishbone Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Can anyone explain where that (On-Fire) experience for the Lord originates from? It's also known as the burning in the bosom, Mormons are hot on that experience and wouldn't have a church without it, other groups call it slain in the spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wertbag Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 There's a few possibilities and the answer is probably a combination of them. When people get themselves into an adrenaline fueled mania the body has a range of reactions from racing heart to blood pressure changes, such things can lead to flushed warm feelings or fainting. The second group are those convinced that they should feel a certain way. Whether it be a form of hypnosis, self delusion or just attributing any symptom to what you are hoping to feel, we are quite capable of tricking ourselves. The third group are those who don't feel anything but due to peer pressure will play along to fit in. Whether you want family or teacher approval, or simply don't want to be the odd one out, people will say whatever they know the group wants to hear. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyWishbone Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Wertbag said: There's a few possibilities and the answer is probably a combination of them. When people get themselves into an adrenaline fueled mania the body has a range of reactions from racing heart to blood pressure changes, such things can lead to flushed warm feelings or fainting. The second group are those convinced that they should feel a certain way. Whether it be a form of hypnosis, self delusion or just attributing any symptom to what you are hoping to feel, we are quite capable of tricking ourselves. The third group are those who don't feel anything but due to peer pressure will play along to fit in. Whether you want family or teacher approval, or simply don't want to be the odd one out, people will say whatever they know the group wants to hear. Has anyone run tests on the activity in the human brain while these people are under the influence of that effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wertbag Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 7 hours ago, JohnnyWishbone said: Has anyone run tests on the activity in the human brain while these people are under the influence of that effect? I remember there was one study attempted but they found the scrutiny, equipment and nerves of the test subject stopped them from reacting as they normally would. They do say that such feelings occurred regardless of the religion. There have been several studies on stigmata which overlap with religious mania. The majority were found to be hoaxes but there were some which were self inflicted while in a dazed/hypnotic/unconscious state. People would scratch or hit the right spots enough to cause bruising or bleeding but were so out of their heads that they could not remember doing so. They could pass polygraph tests even when shown video of their self harm. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyWishbone Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Wertbag said: I remember there was one study attempted but they found the scrutiny, equipment and nerves of the test subject stopped them from reacting as they normally would. They do say that such feelings occurred regardless of the religion. There have been several studies on stigmata which overlap with religious mania. The majority were found to be hoaxes but there were some which were self inflicted while in a dazed/hypnotic/unconscious state. People would scratch or hit the right spots enough to cause bruising or bleeding but were so out of their heads that they could not remember doing so. They could pass polygraph tests even when shown video of their self harm. Excellently expressed. 5 smiles for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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