JohnnyWishbone Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 I remember back in 1996 in sunny Brisbane, Queensland (Kangaroo Island as I call it) I met this gay guy at a tarot reader's apartment. At the time I was crashing on the floor of this readers home. Then this gay guy took compassion on me, and let me stay in one of his spare rooms. Just off the bat, just like that Never had a Christian do that, without an ulterior motive. I stayed there for a long while and had a lot of fun. Then when my birthday rolled around, the gay guy and all his lovely gay friends went all out. They all bought me gift's, paid for my entire meal, and gave me plenty of drink's. Off the cuff, and never asked for a thing back. Never had a Christian do that, without an ulterior motive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wertbag Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I had a Catholic friend get me a job and job training that got me the career I now have. I have Christian relatives who knitted blankets for our baby, just because it was a nice thing to do. I've had a gay atheist flatmate steal my alcohol and never pay me back. In any large group of people there will be good and bad. Christians are no different to atheists in that respect. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Joshpantera Posted May 28, 2019 Moderator Share Posted May 28, 2019 You're a christ because some gay guys gave you the royal treatment in Brisbane in 96'??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ DestinyTurtle ◊ Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 It's uplifting when you see genuine generosity in the world these days. I think nowadays Xians, particularly in America, teach and believe that generosity and charity is an evil thing (because it is in service to people, and not "God"). I think the teachings of Jesus were literally turned inside out. Anyways, we live the consequences of intentions and degree of earnestness with which we face our lives, and what specific title we say we identify with during the course of that period has nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyWishbone Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Wertbag said: I had a Catholic friend get me a job and job training that got me the career I now have. I have Christian relatives who knitted blankets for our baby, just because it was a nice thing to do. I've had a gay atheist flatmate steal my alcohol and never pay me back. In any large group of people there will be good and bad. Christians are no different to atheists in that respect. If they all do it for Jesus, then in the end it was never just for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyWishbone Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Joshpantera said: You're a christ because some gay guys gave you the royal treatment in Brisbane in 96'??? A Christ yes, not the Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyWishbone Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, DestinyTurtle said: It's uplifting when you see genuine generosity in the world these days. I think nowadays Xians, particularly in America, teach and believe that generosity and charity is an evil thing (because it is in service to people, and not "God"). I think the teachings of Jesus were literally turned inside out. Anyways, we live the consequences of intentions and degree of earnestness with which we face our lives, and what specific title we say we identify with during the course of that period has nothing to do with it. Yes, you understand what I'm talking about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wertbag Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, JohnnyWishbone said: If they all do it for Jesus, then in the end it was never just for you. It isn't done forJesus, it is done for friendship, done for empathy and done just cos some people are genuinely nice people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOHO Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, DestinyTurtle said: I think nowadays Xians, particularly in America, teach and believe that generosity and charity is an evil thing (because it is in service to people, and not "God"). Maybe some discourage charity for this reason but my chritty friends discourage it as it inhibits motivation in the receivers. I quite agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ DestinyTurtle ◊ Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, MOHO said: Maybe some discourage charity for this reason but my chritty friends discourage it as it inhibits motivation in the receivers. I quite agree. Oh, the "it'll make them entitled and lazy" argument? I've definitely heard that too! In my family this was tied into their general belief that anything done to help people is evil via some argument like: Original Sin => People are inherently EVIL => anything done to help them will only enable them to be more EVIL (also COMMUNISM!) => if you give to charity it will make them ENTITLED and LAZY (hence EVIL)! I don't know how widely Xians believe in this train of reasoning but as I recall that's kind of how they thought about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyWishbone Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Wertbag said: It isn't done forJesus, it is done for friendship, done for empathy and done just cos some people are genuinely nice people. I've met with a few of those types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOHO Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 15 hours ago, DestinyTurtle said: Oh, the "it'll make them entitled and lazy" argument? I've definitely heard that too! In my family this was tied into their general belief that anything done to help people is evil via some argument like: Original Sin => People are inherently EVIL => anything done to help them will only enable them to be more EVIL (also COMMUNISM!) => if you give to charity it will make them ENTITLED and LAZY (hence EVIL)! I don't know how widely Xians believe in this train of reasoning but as I recall that's kind of how they thought about it. Offering someone a hand up will not make them lazy but providing a substitute for for self sufficiency will. It will also remove their self esteem. Mrs. MOHO's church is very much involved in charity but they are very selective and provide resources where they will make a positive impact. I contribute financially to some of these efforts. My contributions have had a positive impact on the community, as well as some individual lives, and have provided positive examples of non-believers to those who most need it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I moved in with 50 guys, this one time. It was in Texas. We ate together, worked out together, took classes together. We all shaved our heads and saluted people. It was a time in my life I needed direction...They really motivated me to get off my lazy ass and become a civilian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ DestinyTurtle ◊ Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 5 hours ago, MOHO said: Mrs. MOHO's church is very much involved in charity but they are very selective and provide resources where they will make a positive impact. I contribute financially to some of these efforts. Help should be handed out with much discernment for sure! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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