100 Southern Baptist youth pastors convicted or charged

[midniterider]

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/All-too-often-Southern-Baptist-youth-pastors-13588292.php

 

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"In the past 20 years, about 400 Southern Baptist church leaders and volunteers have faced allegations of sexual misconduct, according to our investigation."

 

Now, it's not ALL Southern Baptist church leaders....only about 400.

 

A bit too lazy to google the other denominations. I imagine there's probably a similar phenomenon with the Muslims too. 

[TheRedneckProfessor]

god damn it.  If only they had the correct interpretation of the correct translation of the written revelation of the correct god, then they'd know that something that is morally wrong is... morally wrong.

[LogicalFallacy]

2 hours ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

god damn it.  If only they had the correct interpretation of the correct translation of the written revelation of the correct god, then they'd know that something that is morally wrong is... morally wrong.

 

Come now. You and I both know there is no 11th commandment that says Thou shalt not rape or molest. What's your issue?

 

In fact, the word "moral" or any of its derivatives doesn't appear in the bible. The bible gives commandments. If it's not a commandment written by God then god must be ok with it.

[◊ DestinyTurtle ◊]

I am completely and absolutely not surprised. I imagine the convicted pastors will eventually make an impassioned speech about repenting and being born again (for real this time), and then proceeding to publicly boast about their sexual endeavors in a larger BS narrative about how it shows how great god is. Their future congregation will lap it up. 

[♦ Fuego ♦]

2 hours ago, DestinyTurtle said:

Their future congregation will lap it up

 

I see what you did there... ewww

 

[sdelsolray]

Much sexual repression exists in many Christian denominations (as well as within many other religions).  I am not surprised that some in authority within those groups seek sexual experiences within the group.  Unfortunately, many use that authority to seek sexual experiences with children and by doing so seriously violate secular criminal laws.  Similarly, such conduct violates tenets of their religion.  It's quite puzzling, at least to me.  I would hope they would realize the nature and consequences of such secular criminal and religious sinful behavior before they engage in it.  But, apparently, many do not.

[♦ Fuego ♦]

I recall the inherently double-minded lives that many of us led, feeling the natural lusts built-into all mammals, but insistent that we were born-again and somehow above that sort of thing. Then PORN PORN PORN, or at least wanking to the Amy Grant album covers, or to various women or girls at church, then weeping over this awful sin, then right back to it, then... And after hearing all the crap women faced from various pastors, it doesn't surprise me to hear so many criminal stories come out of the same thing. Sex is one of the most powerful drives, and once a guy thinks he's in the clear to indulge, he is like a crack-head about to get his next fix especially if he is repressed all the rest of the time for normal outlets (as many Christians are).

 

I've always been surprised by the guys that are willing to murder kids, some repeatedly. I suppose that fear is the next biggest motivator, but damn. 

 

Pastors that are rabidly anti-gay are often found hooking up with guys at bars. Others find hookers. I knew one couple at church that seemed oddly matched. She was far more cool, and he was kind of a dorky conformist guy. I saw her at an outdoor concert with a buff dude, and realized that she wasn't settling at all for the dork. They broke up not too long after. Sexual repression is a huge problem, and is caused by believing a lie about being born-again, incorruptible, pure light shining in darkness, blah blah blah. And lust... oooh it's so baaad. Believing bullshit about normal drives and believing bullshit about sky-dwelling saviors is what causes part of it. 

 

But I also see a ton of the same kind of "incel" (involuntary celibates) on sites like 4chan, where guys have never learned at all how to be attractive, so refer to women as bitches, sluts, whores, and post nasty pics of their favorite fetishes, none of which they will ever get to do because they are so isolated from real females and know nothing about the mating game. Frustration leads to derogatory name calling and weird shit instead of normal sex. I'd imagine that many of the guys in church are in this same category, expecting some kind of magic blessing to lead to a mate. I recall being frustrated that church never taught me anything about courting a woman, only about how to keep a marriage alive (which has come in handy in marriage). I finally resorted to a book "How to pick up beautiful women" that isn't nearly as sleazy as it sounds. It worked, and still does for my age group.

[◊ DestinyTurtle ◊]

18 hours ago, Fuego said:

Sex is one of the most powerful drives, and once a guy thinks he's in the clear to indulge, he is like a crack-head about to get his next fix especially if he is repressed all the rest of the time for normal outlets (as many Christians are).

I found it interesting after hanging out with atheists and "non-believers" that most of them are much more sexually moderate, respectful, and self controlled than most so-called born again Xians. I really think in a lot of cases that repression *is* what causes people to become sexually violent. Also some of the basic foundational attitudes of Evangelicism is to violate people's boundaries by threatening or coercing them into their "faith" and I think that attitude carries onto their view of sexuality as well. 

[Geezer]

That which is forbidden is that which is most desired. When sex is labeled as sinful it automatically becomes even more enticing. 

[Joshpantera]

On 7/4/2019 at 2:10 PM, midniterider said:

"In the past 20 years, about 400 Southern Baptist church leaders and volunteers have faced allegations of sexual misconduct, according to our investigation."

 

Now, it's not ALL Southern Baptist church leaders....only about 400.

 

Once saved, always saved I suppose...........

 

Party on folks!!!!!!!!