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As Christians were pouring oil over a person tied to a stake, they told that person they were helping them avoid eternal torment. "We are going to burn you alive until you are dead, but we are helping to save your soul", they said to the heretic (free thinker).

 

As can be gained in various threads and posts by the military-type people that contribute to this forum (or behavioral scientists - if they prefer), apparently the goal is to pigeonhole people into a new label if they leave Christianity. Christianity is a system of control. The psyops manual requires such a pigeonholing because people need to be under control. That is what the military does, they control and kill - and that is all they do, but to do that efficiently they have to do research, lab work, and field tests.

 

Military-type people do not think for themselves (they wouldn't be allowed in the military, or allowed to work for them through crisis management agencies, universities, defense contractors, alphabet agencies, or humanitarian foundations in field tests for long if they did) and if they cannot label a person, or if they they can label a person a threat to the status-quo, they begin to attack them in the forums, which is a psyops tactic too, just to see what comes next. "Beat the person down" has been an effective technique for the entire history of the U.S. government - and that comes from the Bible, which contains the original blueprints for mind-control.

 

A person would have to think outside of a pigeonhole to pick up on these things. When a person does so, they are give a new label (nutter) and a tinfoil hat because how dare a person think for themselves, or even more detrimental to the status-quo, how dare they out-think the psyops manual, at which point the military-type men think to themselves, maybe we are being tested too, so we better stick to the manual, but they don't really know if that is true because figuring that out would require thinking outside the military-mind and the psych books used to classify people and to force, I mean condition, folks to fit the beliefs of a bunch of criminally insane head-shrinks. They don't understand that the government needs to bend to the will of the people - not the other way around. See, people don't need the government or the military, or even the head-shrinks, but those institutions and head-doctors need the people, which is why you see military-type 'pysch' responses on this forum.

 

Military folks follow orders, manuals, and procedures, and that makes them very efficient and well trained, especially those people that work in the "mind-fuck-your-fellow-Americans" department, a department tasked with manipulating the minds of Americans under the pretense of research and national security, to help those people of course, but the military-type people (retired, pretending to be retired, or otherwise) doing the field work don't know what the real objective is and so they only follow orders - which apparently is to get people to agree with them, or not. They don't care if people argue, so long as they can be labeled the military-type folks know how to deal with them because they can look it up. If the military-type people are successful, the converts (those people in compliance with the psyops manual and given a label) just retweet the forum message for the particular pigeonhole they exist in thus allowing the military-type people to concentrate on the harder to control people - I mean help people that need it the most - something they won't always be able to do because a person has to be willing to be helped into a pigeonhole, and not everybody is willing.

 

So why the importance of grabbing ex-Christians and controlling them? Because everything the masters of those military-type men are doing they plan to blame of the wrath of god, and if people leave Christianity it will be impossible to convince them god did it. From Hitler's Holocaust (King David's Holocaust), to all the Jews returning to Israel, to the downing of the twin towers, to the War of Terror in the Middle East perpetrated by the U.S. Military, the masters are following the biblical play book while marching towards a tyrannical communistic/socialist NWO (as it is outlined in the Bible). Just compare history to the Bible and see for yourself. Of course that would mean the military-type people would actually have to read the plan, I mean the Bible from cover-to-cover, and do some historical research outside mainstream status-quo.

 

I noticed that few ex-Christians on this forum know anything about the Bible and instead refer to religious dogma written by other mind-fuckers. How do I know that - I tested the forum and nobody would touch a scriptural-only post. Not even the government-sponsored protagonist Christian patsy experts (used to keep things stirred up) would touch them. The military-type people need to read the actual Bible (cover-to-cover) to know what I'm talking about. They might also start researching what tech the U.S. Military has at its disposal. The U.S. Patent Office and Project Paperclip would be a good starting point, as would 1933 when the federal government went belly-up and lost its status in the world as a sovereign nation. For 86 years the feds have kept that quiet.

 

To overcome that, or rather prevent people from looking into the history of Washington D.C, the U.S. Military, and the U.S. Patent Office, those ex-Christian folks need to be controlled and pointed to science and math that explains nothing because they, like Jesus, are just theories, unproven theories, myths if you will, and that will keep the ex-Christians busy instead of having them research why are all the weather changes happening, why the chemtrails, why all the lies from the government, what kind of tech are they using to pull off this fraud because how can a prophecy that has been in the public domain for over 1600 years be a prophetic, wouldn't that be considered a plan? And other uncomfortable questions the masters don't want to deal with. When a person starts to free their mind from one of the control systems, the military-type men are right there to help imprison their minds with new bullshit. They show up on forums all over the Internet. They are really easy to spot, and they are here too.

 

Will the military-type men play good-cop bad-cop with this post (in the hopes of social engineering personal info, to be used against me, I mean to help me), or issue a "grab your tinfoil hats - this guy is a fucking nut case warning"? Perhaps they will sit back and see if the retweeters will do the attack for them, which would please them very much because that has always been a big part of the status-quo, a type of pysops that started long before the present day mind-fuckers were born. If it wasn't for that psyops, there wouldn't be military-type people fucking with other people on this, or any other forum, because it takes an incredible amount of mind-fucking to get people to join the military and agree to kill and be killed for god and country. It takes even more mind-fucking to get Americans to think of fellow Americans as the enemy. Things like 9/11 and school shootings work well, but if a person did a little research they'd find the very first school shootings were conducted by the U.S. Military when they marched into government schools and shot unarmed and defenseless native children - over two hundred in one day, but nobody should try to turn the tables on the mind-fuckers and profile the character of the government and its military because that is not right. That's not patriotic.

 

Thinking, after all, is not a good thing if it goes against the wishes of the fascist state employing the mind-fuckers. The fascist state steals the money to pay the mind-fuckers from the people they mind-fuck. Part of the plan is to eventually kill all the mind-fuckers, something they don't know, but hey, isn't this the greatest country ever? There are several hundred million people dead (killed - because this country exists and operates with the Christian beliefs it does) along with about six and a half billion people living around the world that would answer that question a big fat NO!

 

So what's it going to be mind-fuckers? Will you do some research outside the status-quo and outside the procedural directives you swore to uphold, or attack this post?

 

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I’m going with “grab your tinfoil hats - this guy is a fucking nut case”.

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Yes, this one is a nutter, with the optional tin foil hat.  Quite angry too.

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On 8/10/2019 at 11:53 AM, Griffin said:

"Beat the person down" has been an effective technique for the entire history of the U.S. government - and that comes from the Bible, which contains the original blueprints for mind-control.

 

Obviously it's not left field to see christianity as mind control. They offer imaginary threats and rewards of eternal magnitude and pretty much mind fuck a lot of people. Some of which end up here at ex-C with mild to severe after effects. The government with it's dominant political parties are quite guilty of mind fucking people as well. And a lot of it does tie together in obvious ways. I would say that encouraging people to think for themselves is a wise direction. 

 

But when getting into heavy conspiracy theory I would like to point out that a person is beginning to put themselves into the same seat that christian apologist's find themselves in. And what I mean is that when claims are being thrown around (from any side) the burden of proof requirement for said claims becomes an issue. No doubt people are going to question all claims, including the claims coming from ex christians. 

 

On 8/10/2019 at 11:53 AM, Griffin said:

To overcome that, or rather prevent people from looking into the history of Washington D.C, the U.S. Military, and the U.S. Patent Office, those ex-Christian folks need to be controlled and pointed to science and math that explains nothing because they, like Jesus, are just theories, unproven theories, myths if you will, and that will keep the ex-Christians busy instead of having them research why are all the weather changes happening, why the chemtrails, why all the lies from the government, what kind of tech are they using to pull off this fraud because how can a prophecy that has been in the public domain for over 1600 years be a prophetic, wouldn't that be considered a plan? And other uncomfortable questions the masters don't want to deal with. When a person starts to free their mind from one of the control systems, the military-type men are right there to help imprison their minds with new bullshit. They show up on forums all over the Internet. They are really easy to spot, and they are here too.

 

The government is concerned with ex christians? 

 

The government is trying to keep ex christians busy so that we don't catch on to them trying to manipulate the weather and apply chemtrails in order fudge a fulfillment of prophecy? 

 

On 8/10/2019 at 11:53 AM, Griffin said:

Will the military-type men play good-cop bad-cop with this post (in the hopes of social engineering personal info, to be used against me, I mean to help me), or issue a "grab your tinfoil hats - this guy is a fucking nut case warning"?

 

So you make a self fulfilling prophecy based on suggesting that after making a somewhat baseless looking post, people will brand you a nut case? Obviously if you make insane looking claims without first having substantiated the claims made (you being aware of the need to substantiate one's claims before moving forward, btw) then people are going to react accordingly. We often get people coming here that have some particular personal agenda to grind and think that they've found an open platform to try and win over converts to whatever their personal cause may be. 

 

That's generally frowned on. Encouraging ex christian's to think for themselves is ok. I don't think anyone would have a problem with suggesting that. But encouraging ex christians to think for themselves involves encouraging them to question everything. That leads to questioning all claims. Requesting citation and extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims. It wouldn't make very much sense, for instance, to over come christianity only to be suckered in by some other form of baseless claim making. I'm sure you understand the importance. 

 

So this is it. 

 

Citations? 

 

Credible evidence? 

 

What is the basis for all of the claims being made in name of trying to help ex christians? No holds barred here. Political citation. Religious citation. Sky's the limit. 

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I come into the ToT for the first time in months.

 

I see this.

 

I weep for what we have become.

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Da fuq?

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9 minutes ago, disillusioned said:

Da fuq?

 

What he said.

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PUBLIC LAW 105–85—NOV. 18, 1997, passed by the 105 Congress, allows for the spraying of Chemtrails. Page 287 contains the terminology. The Section is 1078.
It can also be found in the US Code at 50 USC 1520.

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National Defense Authorization Act - allows for the hire and payment of people for the purpose of pushing the agenda of the government. Lies allowed.

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Just a few patents for mind-control:

US PATENT 3,951,134
US PATENT 4,717,343
US PATENT 4,858,612
US PATENT 4,877,027
US PATENT 5,123,899
US PATENT 5,128,765
US PATENT 5,151,080
US PATENT 5,159,703
US PATENT 5,270,800
US PATENT 5,507,291
US PATENT 5,539,705
US PATENT 5,629,678
US PATENT 5,760,692
US PATENT 5,868,100
US PATENT 5,905,461
US PATENT 5,935,054
US PATENT 5,952,600
US PATENT 6,006,188
US PATENT 6,011,991
US PATENT 6,014,080
US PATENT 6,017,302
US PATENT 6,051,594
US PATENT 6,052,336

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US CODE 3002,15,A defines the "United States" as a federal corporation.

 

A great example of the government fraud can be found in the words of Congressman James Traficant Jr. of Ohio (Volume 33, page H-1303 of the United States Congressional Record of March 17, 1993):

"Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in the world history, the US Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for out future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73 Congress session June 5th, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the international Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. The new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or replacing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: 'The US Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States'...

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Back in 1907, when then Attorney General Charles Joseph Bonaparte appealed to Congress and asked them to authorize and fund the Federal Bureau of Investigation, he was turned down. Congress viewed the formation of the FBI to be a Secret Police Force. Bonaparte hired men anyway and paid them from a slush fund. They quickly created files on Congress, then used extortion to keep anyone from dismantling them. They are a private Police force serving and protecting the banking families and they certainly have no authority granted by the USG. Back in 1980 a bill was introduced to the 96th Congress, S.2928, to establish a charter for the FBI but it was never passed and so the FBI has never been given legal status by the USG.

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What's next, flat earth? Moon landing hoax? Reptilian shape shifters? I'm almost out of tinfoil here, so I'll just step aside. Let me know if you need anything.

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1 hour ago, florduh said:

What's next, flat earth? Moon landing hoax? Reptilian shape shifters? I'm almost out of tinfoil here, so I'll just step aside. Let me know if you need anything.

 

The illuminati exists... they are working out of Area 51 with Aliens. Shhhhh it's a secret! :ph34r:

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13 hours ago, Griffin said:

PUBLIC LAW 105–85—NOV. 18, 1997, passed by the 105 Congress, allows for the spraying of Chemtrails. Page 287 contains the terminology. The Section is 1078.
It can also be found in the US Code at 50 USC 1520.

----

National Defense Authorization Act - allows for the hire and payment of people for the purpose of pushing the agenda of the government. Lies allowed.

----

Just a few patents for mind-control:

US PATENT 3,951,134
US PATENT 4,717,343
US PATENT 4,858,612
US PATENT 4,877,027
US PATENT 5,123,899
US PATENT 5,128,765
US PATENT 5,151,080
US PATENT 5,159,703
US PATENT 5,270,800
US PATENT 5,507,291
US PATENT 5,539,705
US PATENT 5,629,678
US PATENT 5,760,692
US PATENT 5,868,100
US PATENT 5,905,461
US PATENT 5,935,054
US PATENT 5,952,600
US PATENT 6,006,188
US PATENT 6,011,991
US PATENT 6,014,080
US PATENT 6,017,302
US PATENT 6,051,594
US PATENT 6,052,336

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US CODE 3002,15,A defines the "United States" as a federal corporation.

 

A great example of the government fraud can be found in the words of Congressman James Traficant Jr. of Ohio (Volume 33, page H-1303 of the United States Congressional Record of March 17, 1993):

"Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in the world history, the US Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for out future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73 Congress session June 5th, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the international Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. The new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or replacing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: 'The US Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States'...

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Back in 1907, when then Attorney General Charles Joseph Bonaparte appealed to Congress and asked them to authorize and fund the Federal Bureau of Investigation, he was turned down. Congress viewed the formation of the FBI to be a Secret Police Force. Bonaparte hired men anyway and paid them from a slush fund. They quickly created files on Congress, then used extortion to keep anyone from dismantling them. They are a private Police force serving and protecting the banking families and they certainly have no authority granted by the USG. Back in 1980 a bill was introduced to the 96th Congress, S.2928, to establish a charter for the FBI but it was never passed and so the FBI has never been given legal status by the USG.

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     I don't know if it is online so maybe go to your library and read an actual copy of this record.  It's different.

 

     Found it.  Here.  Page 9 of the PDF or 5321 of the doc.  It's right in the center of the page.  Compare it to the fake version.

 

          mwc

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Hm. Troll alert. A new B.O.?

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31 minutes ago, older said:

Hm. Troll alert. A new B.O.?

 

Wait! Maybe it's B.O with a new account? If he knew what he was doing he could circumvent the IP block.... maybe he is part of the illuminati?

 

Shit... I need a new roll of tinfoil. Two ticks and I'll be back....

 

PS if I don't come back the secret police have me!

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21 hours ago, mwc said:

     I don't know if it is online so maybe go to your library and read an actual copy of this record.  It's different.

 

     Found it.  Here.  Page 9 of the PDF or 5321 of the doc.  It's right in the center of the page.  Compare it to the fake version.

 

          mwc

 

But... the bankruptcy is clear in both "versions" isn't it, so the Congressman's statement isn't all that important. The bankruptcy is important. A country has to remain solvent to remain sovereign. Also, I see nobody is touching on the tech. I know many here are ex-military or whatever, and very few people respect what the U.S. Military has done and is doing in the world today. So attacking me and this information doesn't change the history of the United States, its military, or its present condition.

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54 minutes ago, Griffin said:

 

...A country has to remain solvent to remain sovereign.

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Just not in any way you can demonstrate.  Your mere assertion is not evidence.

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33 minutes ago, sdelsolray said:

Just not in any way you can demonstrate.  Your mere assertion is not evidence.

 

June 5, 1933 H.J.Res. 192  (was possibly repealed but still covered by)
U.S. Code:
Title 31Sec. 5118
Title 31 Sec 3123
Title 18 Sec. 8
Title 31 Sec. 3111. 31 Sec. 3123

 

There are more than those documents, and there are documents that supersedes any law congress writes (Doctrine of Discovery, Treaty of Verona, Monroe Doc, etc). These things are difficult to "believe" because they contradict what is taught as fact when they are not facts. The USG teaches all kinds of conspiracies and falsehoods in the classroom while implying they are facts, such as the Quantum Theory, Theory of Evolution, the Big Bang Theory, the Theory of Relativity, etc., and people learn to stick up for those lies and thus protect the liars.

 

The men that signed the Declaration of Independence, claiming all men are created equal, where fucking masonic slave owners yet Americans think of them as good men when they were not good men because the USG puts a good slant on its history.

 

A person is not born an American. A child is taught to be an American and they don't have a choice. Think about that, because that is how they protect the system. Why would the USG need anybody to do battle for them? The people in Washington are big boys and girls but without people going to battle for them, they are not much more than flesh-bags of gas and deceit.

 

Oh, and when you watch mainstream news, call the news company and request "verification of the mere assertions" to 'prove' the information coming from the news reader is factual. Call and ask for the names of the  "experts" that do all the myriad "a resent study says" reports. Ask for a copy of the study. See what happens.

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1 hour ago, Griffin said:

 

But... the bankruptcy is clear in both "versions" isn't it, so the Congressman's statement isn't all that important. The bankruptcy is important. A country has to remain solvent to remain sovereign. Also, I see nobody is touching on the tech. I know many here are ex-military or whatever, and very few people respect what the U.S. Military has done and is doing in the world today. So attacking me and this information doesn't change the history of the United States, its military, or its present condition.

     Darn.  So the fact that you believed and posted a corrupted version doesn't actually matter?  What matters now is only a portion of the text that still might support you?  You're not vetting your sources very well.  This calls into question all your research.

 

     I have no interest in arguing about "the tech" (I believe you're referring to "psyops" crap here).  You've already shown how poorly you've researched everything else over two threads and, given that, you just don't care when you fail.  Why should I want to engage you at what I'm pretty sure is going to be more poorly researched conspiracy theories?

 

          mwc

 

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     Darn.  So the fact that you believed and posted a corrupted version doesn't actually matter?  What matters now is only a portion of the text that still might support you?  You're not vetting your sources very well.  This calls into question all your research.

 

     I have no interest in arguing about "the tech" (I believe you're referring to "psyops" crap here).  You've already shown how poorly you've researched everything else over two threads and, given that, you just don't care when you fail.  Why should I want to engage you at what I'm pretty sure is going to be more poorly researched conspiracy theories?

 

          mwc

 

 

You didn't provide proof your version wasn't altered, did you? Please provide the proof. Thank you mwc.

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16 minutes ago, Griffin said:

 

You didn't provide proof your version wasn't altered, did you? Please provide the proof. Thank you mwc.

     Nice try.  Can you?  My source can be vetted.  Can yours?  I bet I can go to a library and obtain a copy of mine that supports my version.  Can you?  This means this conspiracy must run pretty deep for "them" to have created only copies with my text, or replaced all copies which have my text.  So where is a copy with your text?  Show me that from that isn't from the echo chamber.

 

          mwc

 

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2 minutes ago, mwc said:

     Nice try.  You first.

 

          mwc

 

 

Look a few posts higher in this thread. I did provide additional references. So far mvc, all you've done is bully me (and other people) in this and other threads. You bring a lot of 'bully' to the table, but not much else.

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Regarding Project Paperclip - And this comes from document obtained from the Freedom of Information Act

 

I'm providing these two examples to show the character of the USG and the U.S. Military.

 

The Nazi supporter Otto Ambros, a director for I.G. Farben, was convicted for slavery and mass murder at Nuremberg. He tested various poisonous gas formulas and nerve agents on prisoners at Auschwitz. In 1951 he was brought to America and hired as a consultant to Grace, Dow Chemical, and a few other American companies, as well as the U.S. Army Chemical Corps. During the time Ambros was a consultant, the Army Chemical Corps, using Auschwitz documents as a guide, conducted the same types of poison gas experiments that had been done in secret I.G. Farben labs. The Army Chemical Corps conducted the experiments at Edgewood Arsenal, Maryland. The lab rats were over seven thousand American soldiers that were not told what they were to suffer.

 

Wernher von Braun, the celebrated rocket hero of NASA, worked to death thousands of prisoners he enslaved in his research and manufacturing facilities in Germany. The prisoners/workers/slaves were fed one piece of bread per day and worked until they could no longer stand. They were then hauled outside and dumped on a pile of corpses and left to die. The mountain of bodies was estimated to be over six thousand deep at the time the factory was liberated. How many actually died is unknown because workers were burning them as fast as they could.

 

For more good stuff on how the U.S. Military fucks over service men and women, read:

 

Clouds of Secrecy, The Army's Germ Warfare Tests over Populated Areas - Leonard A. Cole (Forward by Senator Alan Cranston)

Secret Agenda - Linda Hunt

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9 minutes ago, Griffin said:

 

Look a few posts higher in this thread. I did provide additional references. So far mvc, all you've done is bully me (and other people) in this and other threads. You bring a lot of 'bully' to the table, but not much else.

     So report me.  Report the fact that I actually presented you with the entire document that your quoted supposedly came from.  Report the fact that the two quotes weren't the same.  Report the fact I called you out on it.  Report all those facts.  I'll stand by it.  I'm not here to support conspiracy theories.

 

         mwc

 

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