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So Trump is going to sign a EO recognizing Judaism as a nationality in the U.S. in order to fight perceived anti-semitism on college campuses, among other things. I wonder how long it will take other groups to challenge this or seek their own "nationality".......... Pastafariains unite!

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Pandering to the Christian right?

 

I thought Judaism was a religion and therefore already protected?

 

Can we get Atheism protected as a nationality as plenty of hate gets spewed our way?

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Somebody pointed out that the same guy who's putting kids into concentration camps is now attempting to redefine what a Jew is.  Scary thought.

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     Under the rule religion isn't covered but nationality is (on college campuses...I don't have the rule handy but I read it earlier).  This order will do a couple of things.  It will fight the Anti-Israel movements by making the religion a nationality.  What this will mean is anti-Israel speech now becomes anti-Jewish speech.  This means calls to boycott Israel over their behavior in the region can be met with anti-racist measures.  So when Israel acts as an apartheid state calls to deal with them in such a fashion is seem as being as generally racist and can be dealt with as such.

 

     In the same vein, Jews are now seen, in the States, as a different nationality since their religion defines them as such.  Simply by being a Jew you are now a "Jewish" national as opposed to someone who is an American but also of the Jewish religion.

 

     Neither of these things are pro-Jewish but rather pro-Israel.

 

     If Trump wanted to he could likely modify the rule to include religion but that would mean all religions would be covered and, as we know, there are some he simple does not care for and this move is more about Israel and less about the Jews themselves.

 

     This is a really shitty move and folks should be against it since it really isn't what it seems.

 

          mwc

 

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13 hours ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

Somebody pointed out that the same guy who's putting kids into concentration camps is now attempting to redefine what a Jew is.  Scary thought.

 

Trump is trying to pander to the Jews and people be like "is he planning to holocaust them?"

Sad.

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1 hour ago, ToHellWithMe said:

 

Trump is trying to pander to the Jews and people be like "is he planning to holocaust them?"

Sad.

 

"Jews will not replace us!" According to Trump there were some fine people chanting that bit of Jew hate. Pandering to the Jews is not his agenda. Protecting Israel, or more specifically their leadership, from criticism of war crimes is.

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This is like people treating Islam and Muslims as a nationality. Muslims are global and diverse. Not all Muslim's are middle easterner's. You have African's and Asian's. And yet people want to treat Muslims as a nationality despite the fact that they come as middle eastern, African and Asian nationalities in large part.

 

What they're now trying to do to Judaism is the same thing. Then it leads to what happened to Sam Harris and Bill Maher. We'll be branded racist for speaking out against Islam or Judaism as beliefs, as religions, while trying to counter, expose and negate those bronze age religions. As if we're being racist by simply calling out religious bullshit where we see it. 

 

Terrific........

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