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2 minutes ago, Timothew said:

Can I just vent here? I mean, is it allowed?

 

I think it might be good to write down the crap that is bothering me so that I don't have to think about it all the time.

Furinstants:

The pastor's wife (a while ago) told me that it is my "duty as a christin" to support Donald Trump. Meanwhile, she also told my wife that it is a sin for christins to read the Harry Potter novels. This just seems weird (and really funny). I'm supposed to support the grabbing of lady parts, but reading a fictional account of a boy wizard is stepping over the line. How is this line drawn anyway? It's stupid! (I'm not supposed to say that)

It seems the rules still exist (for me) but other people can do whatever the hewl they want to do.  

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Churches in the U.S. walk this fine line of hypocrisy with regard to government and 'politics'. Almost every church in the U.S. signs a 501(c)3 contract in which they are then prohibited from acting in the "political" realm.

They do this for exemption from taxation.

 

If I could believe today in a God, I could not believe for a moment that God would want DJT in a high government position. But then again, I could not believe god would want J. Biden, nor B.H. Obama in such a position, nor B. Clinton, nor GW Bush, nor any of the political actors who have occupied the White House in my lifetime.

 

Americans have devolved to seeing positions within the federal government as a "god" unto itself. Humans never cease wanting someone, someone else, someone wiser and more powerful than themselves to rule over them. Why this is so I'll never understand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, alreadyGone said:

Churches in the U.S. walk this fine line of hypocrisy with regard to government and 'politics'. Almost every church in the U.S. signs a 501(c)3 contract in which they are then prohibited from acting in the "political" realm.

They do this for exemption from taxation.

 

If I could believe today in a God, I could not believe for a moment that God would want DJT in a high government position. But then again, I could not believe god would want J. Biden, nor B.H. Obama in such a position, nor B. Clinton, nor GW Bush, nor any of the political actors who have occupied the White House in my lifetime.

 

Americans have devolved to seeing positions within the federal government as a "god" unto itself. Humans never cease wanting someone, someone else, someone wiser and more powerful than themselves to rule over them. Why this is so I'll never understand.

 

I've left the church so I guess it doesn't matter, but I would like to see the restrictions. It doesn't seem like the churches pay any attention to the rules and it seems like the IRS doesn't do anything about it anyway. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sorry about that Alreadygone, I tried to reply to your comment, but ended up adding something TO your comment. 

I don't know how to use the furum.

 

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16 hours ago, Moonobserver said:

www.au.org is where to go to get help with those issues.

Thank you. That's good to know.

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I've been wondering if I am a Christian or if I am not a Christian. I don't know if I believe there is a god or not. A very big claim of Christianity is that Christians have the Holy Spirit living inside of them. With the way they are acting right now, it doesn't seem possible that there is a god living inside of them. I'm not judging, I'm just thinking things through. Looking for evidence of a god. Here is the thing, whether or not I believe that god exists or not, whether or not I believe that Jesus existed, it doesn't seem harmful for me to do what Jesus said. I mean things like treating other people the way I want to be treated. I don't have to accept everything everybody says about what Jesus wanted, like voting republican in every election and hating people who don't believe the same as they do. But if I am decent to other people, then whether or not god exists I will be a better person. And if god exists, I don't think he will be angry that I've treated other people well whether or not I believe that he exists. And if god doesn't exist, it is still good to be good to other people. So in the end it doesn't matter whether I am "christian" or "not-christian." I'm just Tim.

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18 hours ago, Timothew said:

 And if god doesn't exist, it is still good to be good to other people. So in the end it doesn't matter whether I am "christian" or "not-christian." I'm just Tim.

Good thinking! 

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Why do trumpers hate non trumpers so much?

 

If I dislike Donald Trump because of his lack of character, and someone else likes Donald Trump despite his lack of character, why does the trumper dislike me so much for disliking Donald Trump?  

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All of them said that it was God's will that allowed Trump to win the 2016 election.

Now I'll just wait to see if any of them says that it is God's will that allowed Joe Biden to win.

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On 11/7/2020 at 7:05 PM, Timothew said:

All of them said that it was God's will that allowed Trump to win the 2016 election.

Now I'll just wait to see if any of them says that it is God's will that allowed Joe Biden to win.

According to one earnest young man I met recently who is of the Presbyterian faith, God ordains everything, including this discussion on this website.

He truly works in mysterious ways, huh?

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6 hours ago, alreadyGone said:

According to one earnest young man I met recently who is of the Presbyterian faith, God ordains everything, including this discussion on this website.

He truly works in mysterious ways, huh?

But apparently, God can only ordain republican presidents. If a democrat is elected, they shrug their shoulders and say that god works in mysterious ways.

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My suspicion is that God would agree with George Wallace:

"Democrat, Republican.... there's not a dime's worth of difference between them. Two sides of the same coin."

 

I know I do.

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I know a very small town, where there is a GOP area office located in an old 60's-era storefront on a side street one address off of Main Street.

 

If you walked out their door, straight across the sidewalk directly across the street, you would come very near walking directly into the door of the local DNC office.

 

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14 hours ago, alreadyGone said:

I know a very small town, where there is a GOP area office located in an old 60's-era storefront on a side street one address off of Main Street.

 

If you walked out their door, straight across the sidewalk directly across the street, you would come very near walking directly into the door of the local DNC office.

 

I live in a small town, where there is a GOP area office located in an old 60's-era storefront on a side street one address off of Main Street. If you walked out their door and around the corner, you would walk directly in front of the local DNC office. 

That's spooky. I just got a chill. On the other hand, these people are everywhere. 🤪

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On 11/5/2020 at 3:13 AM, Timothew said:

Why do trumpers hate non trumpers so much?

 

If I dislike Donald Trump because of his lack of character, and someone else likes Donald Trump despite his lack of character, why does the trumper dislike me so much for disliking Donald Trump?  


We are tribal creatures, it’s in our DNA. There was likely an evolutionary advantage for us to stick together in groups and cooperate.

 

Also, Christianity encourages black and white thinking, eg. insider/outsider, us verses them, you are either saved or unsaved, with us or against us.

 

Tribalism may have helped humans to survive this far, however it may ultimately destroy us.

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3 minutes ago, LostinParis said:

 

Tribalism may have helped humans to survive this far, however it may ultimately destroy us.

 

You got that right!  It seems we are suffering a setback in our moral evolution.  HA!  Hopefully we are in that extremely slow process.

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On 11/13/2020 at 1:59 PM, LostinParis said:


We are tribal creatures, it’s in our DNA. There was likely an evolutionary advantage for us to stick together in groups and cooperate.

 

Also, Christianity encourages black and white thinking, eg. insider/outsider, us verses them, you are either saved or unsaved, with us or against us.

 

Tribalism may have helped humans to survive this far, however it may ultimately destroy us.

I think you are right. (You must be a member of my tribe!)

But seriously, I was watching one of those idiotic "survivor" shows on Netflix. The idea was that a person had to survive all alone in an arctic region of Canada. I thought that it was unrealistic because people have always banded together in order to survive. Perhaps one day, we can learn to cooperate with other "tribes" and gain a mutual advantage for everyone. Maybe we can start by removing walls instead of building new ones.

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