FalseProphet666 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Frank Lloyd Wright said, "Form follows function." A person's beliefs are similar to the frame of a building, The frame of a building follows it purpose. It's purpose is determined by the creator. The beliefs of a person are therefore determined by the creator. So if you provide info which contradicts a belief which the creator deems to be crucial to the purpose of that person, then you can talk till the cows come home. but the person will reject the info that you provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ Weezer ◊ Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Is schizophrenia a creator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterP Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 15 hours ago, FalseProphet666 said: Frank Lloyd Wright said, "Form follows function." A person's beliefs are similar to the frame of a building, The frame of a building follows it purpose. It's purpose is determined by the creator. The beliefs of a person are therefore determined by the creator. So if you provide info which contradicts a belief which the creator deems to be crucial to the purpose of that person, then you can talk till the cows come home. but the person will reject the info that you provided. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Paley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleological_argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 I see cognitive dissonance ("CD") as a healthy tool to consciously weigh conflicting data/information. Ignoring CD, or the inability to use it, indicates a mental health deficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ConsiderTheSource Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Imposed belief sets are so overrated. I have had near zero cognitive dissonance, and even less anxiety since trashing the belief set indoctrinated into me in favor of a simple self determined mental bios based on kindness, empathy, facts, and rationality. The only dissonance I deal with is from the vast majority around me pushing their programmed belief on to me, or passively/actively against me. This does suck. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOHO Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 17 hours ago, ConsiderTheSource said: The only dissonance I deal with is from the vast majority around me pushing their programmed belief on to me, or passively/actively against me. This does suck. I feel your pain, Sir! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 On 8/1/2020 at 7:13 PM, FalseProphet666 said: Frank Lloyd Wright said, "Form follows function." A person's beliefs are similar to the frame of a building, The frame of a building follows it purpose. It's purpose is determined by the creator. The beliefs of a person are therefore determined by the creator. So if you provide info which contradicts a belief which the creator deems to be crucial to the purpose of that person, then you can talk till the cows come home. but the person will reject the info that you provided. I like the smell of cognitive dissonance in the morning...smells like...Victory. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalseProphet666 Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 12:21 PM, sdelsolray said: I see cognitive dissonance ("CD") as a healthy tool to consciously weigh conflicting data/information. Ignoring CD, or the inability to use it, indicates a mental health deficiency. Both points are correct. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ DestinyTurtle ◊ Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 "form follows function" -- I think Christianity as a religion is best understood not by its pseudo-theological arguments but rather the function that the believers operate under as a result of believing in it. The function of institutionalized Christian religion is to degrade the lay person's sense of self worth and sense of healthy boundary, to break them and make them ready for submission to absolute authority. The function of religion is domination, control, and justification of the crimes against humanity conducted by the prescribed authority (be it religious, institutional, or political). People and societies will engage in all manner of cognitive dissonance because they can't cope with the possibility that the authority is wrong. From a believer's standpoint the sense of personal responsibility that comes with making individual, moral decisions outside of blind subservience is in itself overwhelming, and also leads to denial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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