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A Preface By Reverend Clayton Jesse Veno Defending our Creed of Osiris/Horus Krst and Jesus Mythicsm in general against Atheists/Stalinists, Wikipedia Wiccans, "Vigilant Christians", "Inspiring Philosophies", "ERRMEN", "Carriers", "SJW's", "Leftists", Pugs and other "Obstinant Heathens" possessed by Set/Apep's 72 legions of "Demons" that shall be Rebuked in the name of The Holy KRST!




Hi There It's me Clayton this article is an updated version of my "Zeitgeist Debunked? 'Are you sure about that' - John Cena" Article/Topic I am well aware that the primary purpose of this website is discussion and encouragement/comfort of Ex Christians and this technically can be considered encouragement to strengthen Ex Christians in there debates with Xtian Antichrists as well as to introduce everyone to a new Mythicist position that I already introduced in the original version of this article and to refute the "blasphemy" so to speak of Zeitgeist Debunkers, Errior (Richard Carrier) and his fanatics, Xtian Apologists and other villains against the faith. 


However although I know this websites primary purpouse I am still writing this Article for everyone here to share and provide a link to in there debates with Christians both on and off this website as well as because although I love the original version of this essay I feel it had many flaws and things I could have done alot better such as too much vulgarity (Or more than there should have been anyway) and broken up weird looking sentences pictures not loading in areas other areas I could have detailed more hence why I am rewriting an updated version of the original in the first place.


I wont be writing anymore Articles on this website just Discussions and Debates here on this site from here on out and any Articles as well as updated versions of them will be published on my website or wordpress blog post once I have created it.


My Mythicist Position is that Jesus Christ Never Existed and that he Is a fictional Composite Character who's story is a religious syncretism derived from numerous places including Alexander The Great, Julius Caeser, Titus Flavius, Apollonius of Tyanna (Paul The Apostle), Nebuchadnezzer, Simon Magus and Izas Manu King of Edessa as well as a syncretic fusion of many Popular Mystery Cult Gods and Old Testament Characters including Ra/Osiris/Horus, Mithras, Dionysus, Buddha, Qetzalcoatl, Hercules/Melqart, Asclepius/Serapis, Odin, Perseus, Romulus/Quirinus, Tammuz/Adonis and Inanna/Ishtar among many many others.


As well as Adam, Archangel Michael, Joseph (Genesis), Melkizedek, Kind David, King Solomon, Joshua, Elisha, Elijah and Moses.      

I am also of the opinion that the Jesus Story is a Caesarian and Roman Propaganda largely based on Astrotheology and Gnostic Pagan Sun worship and that Christianity is a syncretic stitching together of sorts that has it's origins in numerous time periods and places.


Many Atheists in there attempts to disprove Christianity and uphold our faith have brought up the numerous parallels between Jesus and various Pagan Gods but unfortunatly all too often come ill equipped providing no supportive evidence or primary sources in there defences of our Creed and because of this end up rendering themselves fools to the Non Believers, other Atheists as well as other villainous heathens and blasphemers evidently blinded by the forces of evil.


Such examples of this are Atheist Youtuber Jaclyn Glenn who made herself seem a fool to The Vigilant Christian and to others sinful plebs as well as Secular Comedian Bill Maher who sadly also came ill equipped made himself a fool in the eyes of everyone and an antagonist to the one true faith WLC (William Lane Craig) took advantage of this and made Mahr look stupid and lastly Michael Maletin who also made a similar mistake I shall get into.


Jaclyn Glenn's vid:





Bill Maher "Religulous"



WLC's Villainy:




Michael Maletin:



The Mistake being made was that he cites Daniel Miessler for all the pagan Jesus paralles he mentions in the vid However Dan ended up removing most of the parallels and the ones he left intact he provided no primary sources for them and had this to say: [ November 2015 ] A number of the facts listed above about mythical beings that pre-dated Jesus are up for debate. Back when I wrote this I took the content to be factual (I was less careful then), but the truth is that there is much discussion around these details. The important thing to capture from that section is that there were popular concepts that predated Jesus by hundreds of years that ended up in his stories as well. You can research the details more deeply if you want; I have removed a couple of points already, and will be cleaning it up more as I have time. I’d currently give that section an 85% accuracy rating. 



However these "up for debate" and "careful" arguements Ive heard many times and are quite frankly bullshit because as we will see later these important parallels are indeed real and are not up for debate.... Period! and such contentions as this one are erroneous regardless of weather or not jesus existed and weather Christianity/KRSTIANITY is true or not and as we will see there really is nothing to "be careful" about when it comes to these important parallels aside from maybe over reliance on Graves and Massey



Hopefully this apologist Article/Gospel in defence of our religious faith of Mythicism I have written will serve to remedy this matter and shall serve as a refutation/rebuttle to as well as a debunking of various antagonists to our faith particularly Seth Andrews "The Thinking Atheist" 

Bart Ehrman, Richard Carrier, John Gleason (Godless Engineer), Paulogia, William Lane Craig, Mike Winger, Frank Turek, Steven Bancarz,

Jon Sorensen, Religion for Breakfast, James Macgrath, Inspiring Philosophy, Adherent Apologetics, J. Warner Wallace, Dereck Lambert,

Jacob Berman, Truthunedited, Elliot Necsh, Chris White, TVC Mario and other Antichrists against our Mythicist "Crusade" so to speak who blindly follow and accept there "heathenry" with little to no challange.





Seth Andrews: "Now we have to be careful with some of these analogies I've made sure I vetted all of these and there's alot more "out there" and I'm sure you've all seen the movie Zeitgeist and some of the misinformation that's been tossed in there we've got to be very very "careful" *WOOO" - Seth/Apophis Andrews and (some drunk video gamer in the back lol) starting at the 33:36 mark.














Blasphemy begins after the questions asked at 57:23 mark 



Freedom from Religion Foundation


Richard Carrier: We shall deal with this fine, dapper young "Devil" later lol



Mike Winger:



Frank Turek: Sadly another young lad and defender/apologist to our Mythicist faith ill equipped to "Exorcise Demons" such as Frank Turek himself!



Here's John (The Baptist) Gleason's unprofessional and not well researched response...




Apostle Paulogia:





Steven Bancarz: 










Jon Sorensen








He mentions how Murdock spends an entire chapter defending Gerald Masseys scholarship and yet dosent even address any of these defences in his attempts to refute Masseys work and makes many other fallacious and garbage criticisms and deliberate lies and "blasphemy" that shall be refuted here in this Article/Gospel....




Religion For Breakfast:





James Mcgrath: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionprof/2020/03/copycat-anti-religion.html





Here Is a meme from an atheist that as we will see later is poorly researched which will just further strengthen my point that a lot of atheists have not actually done proper research and thus are not experts and we will fact check this "Atheotard" to see if he himself really fact checked the film or just made biased assumptions off of surface level information. He also used questionable sources more particularly kingdavid8 and Tekton Apologetics (who actually was responsible for the abduction of DM Murdocks son!🤬 ) that are biased in favour of Christianity and who themselves have been exposed and refuted on many occasions by DM Murdock and others. 




Adherant Apologetics:





J Warner Wallace: https://coldcasechristianity.com/writings/is-jesus-simply-a-retelling-of-the-horus-myth/











Dereck Lambert:






Jacob Berman:





To Be Fair I like Jacob and his work as well as his contribution to Mythicism overall but he is unintentionally doing the Devil's (Set/Apep's)

work! 😱



Truthunedited: He basically just makes fun of and ridicules those who point out Horus Jesus Parallels but as Ken Humphreys points out: "Hostility and pomposity earns few friends"



Elliot Nesch and Chris White will already be more or less refuted in there heresy by the end of this article however I shall post videos by the end of this Article or Gospel defeating them and there treachery against the faith of Osiris/Horus once and for all!


But Alas! All of these Antichrists, Villains, Blasphemers and Sinful Plebs I have adressed Clearly Possessed by the forces of Set/Apophis, Typhon, The Lernean Hydra, Amun-Min/Pan, Apollo/Apollyon, Dionysus/Bacchus, Hades/Pluto, Medusa, Lamia, Saturn, Hel, Surtr, Jormangandr, Tezcatlipoca, Yama, Mara, Angra Mainyu and many other facets of Azazel by the end of my Gospel shall be refuted and the Demons/Devils that  Possess them shall be exorcised in the name of our LAWD Re-Osiris/Horus!!!!!!


 Before we move on want to clarify the intent of this Article isn't to disprove Christianity but rather to prove that zeitgeist was indeed right about most of it's info contrary to the frantic smears and advid denials of many Christian Apologists and Atheists.


I also want to make it clear that I am a Deist/Pantheist/Panentheist hybrid and I am also a Gnostic Christian who dosen't view the stories in the Bible to be literal historical accounts but rather as simple allegories for Nature, Life and Astrotheology.  


I am a Mythicist because although I believe in Jesus Christ at least at a symbolic level the evidence however that he was a literal historical figure who had 12 diciples and performed miracles and literally rose from the dead three days later is rather paper thin and not very credible upon rigerous critical scrutiny and I do believe that Jesus Christ as potrayed in the Gospels is a fictional/symbolic religious syncretism of the many historical figures, pagan gods and old testament prophets who I mentioned at he very begining of this article.


Also it should go without saying that this is at least partially a saterical piece written from the perspective of a worshipper of Horus, Mithras, Dionysus, Hercules, Julius Caeser etc who in the vain of Justin Martyr and other early Christians defends his "Gospel" from "Pagans", 

"Heathens" and "Demons" (Christians and Atheists) but it should be noted that I obviously don't literally think this way about our antagonists (except for Carrier he's a Jackass quite frankly lol!)🤣


I'm also going to be utilizing alot of 18th and 19th Century Scholarship to support my thesis why you may ask? because despite the rather biased fad of "Obsinant Paganism" and "Blasphemy" in Mainstream "Scholarship" to reject any and deny all sources pertaining to this issue of Pagan-Christian Parallels from Pre Modern Scholarship the fact will remain that all "Modern" Scholarship is built upon what came prior and one must study the past if one is to find any semblance of truth and if we are to dismiss all of these sources as being outdated simply because of the time they were written in or simply because there are many aspects of there work here and there that are outdated or at least highly speculative then by these very same impossible standards of logic we can dismiss all sources from the past as outdated for these very same absurd reasons whenever Modern sources are cited the clamour is for older "primary sources" but if one cites past sources the Demons and Demon Possesed Villains to our Faith will bitch and moan "Outdated" hence the Defender of our Gospel is left in a double bind trap for the critcs and "Atheists" to ensnare us in and in such a picky whiney enviroment it's a wonder anything of any worth gets published.


Also 18th century and 19th century scholarhip was superior in many ways to modern scholarhip interms of a lot less biased dismissles of pagan christian parallels and better preservation of artifacts and were able to cover wider and more broad topics indeph than the specialized restrictions of today's scholarship which the apologist of the faith may now lable the "Church of SET-TYPHON!" 👹


See Acharya S: Suns of God (PP 8-9) 


*Also any Images that don't load up here in this "Gospel" just right click on them and then click load image and as for links to websites and books/book pages I cite you will have to copy and paste them into your web browser 


Lastly Richard Carrier is not someone who's opinion on this matter is worthwhile:

Richard Carrier Owes Acharya an Apology

#1  by Marvin99 » May 16, 2014 9:35 pm

Please read this link below and pass it around. More people need to be made aware of all the malicious smears Richard Carrier has been spreading on Acharya S for 10 years now and it's finally time he was called out for it:

Richard Carrier Owes Acharya an Apology

http://www.freethoughtnation.com/forums ... 4771#p4771

Somebody needs to make a video exposing Carrier's lies from the link above.

For starters:
The Nativity Scene of Amenhotep III at Luxor

"However, in "skimming" Brunner's text, as he puts it, Carrier has mistakenly dealt with the substantially different Hatshepsut text (Brunner's "IV D"), demonstrating an egregious error in garbling the cycles, when in fact we are specifically interested in the Luxor narrative (IV L)...."

- Acharya S

Bayes Theorem, from the 18th century

Richard Carrier constantly bludgeons Acharya to death for discussing 18th/19th century works, yet, Carrier's 'Bayes Theorem' originates from the 18th century!!! "Bayes' theorem is named after Thomas Bayes 1701–1761".  How much more hypocritical could Carrier possibly be?
"Carrier admits on video he has no interest in studying Astrotheology:

In a recent 2014 video, Nuskeptix "Christ Myth Theory" Video Chat, Carrier admits (at 53-54 minutes) he has no interest in pursuing or investigating astrotheology as he finds it "dull," which is basically an admission that Carrier has never studied the subject and has no interest in doing so, therefore, Carrier is not qualified to comment on it with any authority or competence whatsoever. Carrier says he "could never write a book on the subject" (ain't that the truth!). Carrier is simply not a reliable or credible source on the subject of astrotheology or Acharya's work and he needs to be called out on it by others."
"It's important to note that Richard Carrier has never read a single book by Acharya S/Murdock as the information he obtains of her work apparently comes from e-mails from others asking for Carrier's opinion. Since Carrier's critique above he has actually gotten worse, Dick Carrier's criticisms of her work have been very sloppy including egregious errors, so, be very skeptical of his criticisms as Richard Carrier is not a reliable or credible source on Acharya's work. It's also important to realize that Carrier has been criticizing Acharya's work for at least 10 years since 2004, yet, he has never proven anything of significance wrong. Take note how Carrier has always been quick to criticize Acharya's work even though he has never actually read a single book of hers, yet, he also has never acknowledged that she may be right about anything - all signs of biases and ulterior motives. In fact, he's so quick to criticize her work that he consistently makes sloppy and egregious errors, which he NEVER apologizes for. We expect far more integrity, character and ethics from the mythicist camp. It appears his agenda is merely to 'poison the well.' Somebody needs to explain to Carrier that part of being a good scholar is also having good ethics and the treatment he gives to Acharya, a fellow mythicist, has been disingenuous and unethical and others also need to call him out on it. "




Without furthur adieu a very special thanks to Acharya S / D.M. Murdock, Kenneth Humphrys, Timothy Freke, Peter Gandy, Neal Boswell,

Roger Viklund, Joseph Atwill and Francesco Carotta for the following Info.  




The First 3 Characters we shall be discussing are Ra/Re, Osiris and Horus of Egypt.













Ancient Egypt Sun God Ra Or Horus Cartoon Vector Stock Vector -  Illustration of sacred, design: 155281176





Top 15 Ancient Egyptian Gods | Egyptian Gods And goddesses Names


The ancient egyptian god Ra Royalty Free Vector Image



Water-Repellent Rugs Illustration of Ancient Egyptian God Sun Ra in Colored  Design Spirit Animal Culture Anti Bacterial 5'8" x7'6: Amazon.co.uk:  Kitchen & Home


Ancient Egyptian god Ra, the ancient Egyptian deity of the sun, the... News  Photo - Getty Images






Osiris - Wikipedia




Osiris by LarsRune on DeviantArt | Egyptian deity, Egyptian mythology,  Ancient egyptian gods


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Tombe de Senedjem - Osiris | Arte egipcio, Arte del antiguo egipto, Pintura  egipcia



File:Antinous Osiris Louvre Ma433.jpg - Wikimedia Commons


Antinous as Antinous-Osiris


Jesus Osiris - Richard Cassaro




File:Re-Osiris.jpg - Wikimedia Commons


Re-Osiris a Syncretic Composite of Ra and Osiris With Nephthys and Isis.






                              Horus KRST



Horus - Wikipedia





Horus - Ancient History Encyclopedia




File:Horus as falcon.svg - Wikipedia



Horus by MarmaduX-Smite on DeviantArt




Eye of Horus - Wikipedia



All Seeing Eye of Ra/Horus (Oh My God! It Must be an Illuminati Demon Conspiracy LOL!)






First some videos from a "Demon Posessed" blasphemer to our Mythicist Creed by the name of Michael Jones or Inspiring Philosophy to compare our apologetic defences and supporting evidence for our faith to: 




And Another One! -DJ Khalid




"Horus wasn't a Sun God he was The Sky God RA Was The Sun God!!!" -Chris Forbs











As is the case with many gods in other parts of the world, several Egyptian gods (and goddesses) possess solar attributes, essentially making them sun gods. These Egyptian sun gods included not only the commonly known Ra or Re, but also Osiris and Horus, among others. This fact of Horus as a sun god was confirmed five centuries before the common era by the Greek historian Herodotus (2.144, 156), when he equated Osiris with the Greek god Dionysus and Horus with the Greek sun god Apollo: “In Egyptian, Apollo is Horus, Demeter is Isis, Artemis is Bubastis….”

In the first century BCE, the Greek writer Diodorus Siculus described Osiris as the sun, while his sister-wife, Isis, is the moon:


Now when the ancient Egyptians, awestruck and wondering, turned their eyes to the heavens, they concluded that two gods, the sun and the moon, were primeval and eternal: they called the former Osiris, the latter Isis….


The ancient writer Porphyry (c. 235-c. 305 AD/CE) related (according to early Catholic Church father/historian Eusebius):


But the fiery power of [the sun’s] revolving and circling motion whereby he ripens the crops, is called Dionysus… And whereas he revolves round the cosmical seasons [Grk. horas] and is the maker of “times and tides,” the sun is on this account called Horus.

In my book Suns of God (112), I discuss the equation of Horus with Apollo and the sun by ancient writer Macrobius (4th cent. AD/CE):


The newborn sun god about whom he writes is Horus, whom Macrobius equates with Dionysus. Both Dionysus and Apollo are identified with Horus, as is further evidence by the fact that Apollo and Horus were represented by the hawk. Macrobius too equates Apollo with Horus

As concerns primary sources, in Christ in Egypt (47), I write (47):


In ancient Egyptian writings such as the Pyramid Texts, in which he is called the “Lord of the Sky,” along with other solar epithets such as “He Whose Face is Seen,” “He Whose Hair is Parted,” and “He Whose Two Plumes are Long,” Horus’s function as a sun god or aspect of the sun is repeatedly emphasized, although this singularly pertinent fact is seldom found in encyclopedias and textbooks, leaving us to wonder why he would be thus diminished. In the Coffin Texts as well is Horus’s role as (morning) sun god made clear, such as in the following elegantly rendered scripture from CT [Coffin Text] Sp. 255:


“…I will appear as Horus who ascends in gold from upon the lips of the horizon…”

In CT Sp. 326, Horus is even called “Lord of the sunlight.”

Concerning the nature of certain Egyptian gods, Dr. James P. Allen, Curator of Egyptian Art at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, remarks:


…Ruling over the universe by day, the Sun was identified with Horus, the god of kingship; at sunset he was seen as Atum, the oldest of all gods. The Sun’s daily movement through the sky was viewed as a journey from birth to death, and his rebirth at dawn was made possible through Osiris, the force of new life… …In the middle of the night the Sun merged with Osiris’s body; through this union, the Sun received the power of new life while Osiris was reborn in the Sun.


As we can see, these various gods are often interchangeable, and their attributes and stories may overlap. As stated by Egyptologist Dr. Erik Hornung:


Many Egyptian gods can be the sun god, especially Re, Atum, Amun, and manifestations of Horus. Even Osiris appears as the night form of the sun god in the New Kingdom. It is often not defined which particular sun god is meant in a given instance.


In this regard, I also relate in CIE (45):


…Horus of the Horizon or Horakhty is a solar deity and the morning sun, part of the combined Re-Horakhty, whose name Egyptologist Dr. Rudolf Anthes renders, “Re, the heavenly Horus of the horizon in which he appears as the sun..” As Egyptologist Sir Dr. Gaston Maspero remarks:


Horus the Sun, and Ra, the Sun-God of Heliopolis, had so permeated each other that none could say where the one began and the other ended…


Once more, Maspero says:


When the celestial Horus was confounded with Ra, and became the sun…he naturally also became the sun of the two horizons, the sun by day, and the sun by night.



Hieroglyph representing either Horus or Ra in his Sun Disk. (Budge, ‘An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary,’ cxiv)


Egyptologist Dr. Allen further discusses Horus’s solar attributes:


Horus was the power of kingship. To the Egyptians this was as much a force of nature as those embodied in the other gods. It was manifest in two natural phenomena: the sun, the most powerful force in nature; and the pharaoh, the most powerful force in human society. Horus’s role as the king of nature is probably the origin of his name: hrw seems to mean “the one above” or “the one far off”… This is apparently a reference to the sun, which is “above” and “far off” in the sky, like the falcon with which Horus is regularly associated…


Illustrating certain motifs including the sun god’s movement through the night and day, Sir Dr. E.A. Wallis Budge (1857–1934), noted English Egyptologist, Orientalist, and philologist who worked for the British Museum and published numerous works, remarks:


The Sun has countless names, Ptah, Tmu, Ra, Horus, Khnemu, Sebek, Amen, etc.; and some of them, such as Osiris and Seker, are names of the Sun after he has set, or, in mythological language, has died and been buried…. All gods, as such, were absolutely equal in their might and in their divinity; but, mythologically, Osiris might be said to be slain by his brother Set, the personification of Night, who, in his turn, was overthrown by Horus (the rising sun), the heir of Osiris.


As can be seen, both Osiris and Horus are essentially sun gods, who both also battle with the “Prince of Darkness,” the god Set or Seth. Summarizing, Egyptologist Dr. Edmund Meltzer states:


Horus the falcon was predominantly a sky god AND a sun god.


There is much, much more to this subject, including a 39-page chapter “Horus, Sun of God” in my book Christ in Egypt. You will not get this important information from all the critics out there who are clearly not experts on this subject, as this one issue so roundly demonstrates. If you see this basic error, you would not be remiss in clicking off the page since the rest will likely be just as erroneous.




Derived From the Article HORUS WAS A SUN GOD!!!!! By Acharya S: https://stellarhousepublishing.com/horus-is-the-sun-god/  and the scholar in this video is Dr. Glenn Stanfield Holland. Moreover Norman J Lockyer Wrote In The Dawn of Astronomy: "We have the form of Harpocrates at its rising, the child sun-god being generally represented by the figure of a hawk. When in human form, we notice the presence of a side lock of hair. The god Ra symbolises, it is said, the sun in his noontide strength; while for the time of sunset we have various names, chiefly Osiris, Tum, or Atmu, the dying sun represented by a mummy and typifying old age. The hours of the day were also personified, the twelve changes during the twelve hours being mythically connected with the sun’s daily movement across the sky" (24-25)


In other words Horus the Child / Harpocrates became RA at 12:00 AM thus RA/Horus are the same God Mythologically Speaking same with Atum Khnum Osiris Amen Sokar and others and in the intepretatio Graeca Horus and RA were both sycretised with the Sun God Helios which would have made them syncretic with each other as well (Syncretism is the fusion of religious Gods and Goddesses from one culture with other Gods and Goddesses within the same culture or within other cultures or sometimes both or at least this the type we are discussing here) and Finally Horus and RA were interchangeable to the point of conflation into RA Horakthy or RE Herakhte  (Ra, The Horus Of The Two Horizons) Even the Ancient Aliens Illuminati Reptilian Geometry Class Triangle The All Seeing Eye Of Providence is known BOTH as the All Seeing Eye Of RA and the All Seeing Eye Of Horus too.


Here Is a comment on youtube I found pertaining to this Topic: " It depends on the time and place. Ra is also the god of heaven. A number of Horus and Ra's functions overlap and they share many of the same attributes. But even when Horus is considered the god of heaven/the sky, Horus' eye is the Sun." - StuartMason99



Lastly it's worth noting that when Horus is the Sky God or Ruler of Heaven his Left eye is the Moon and his right eye is the Sun.


Horus Is Also a Moon God in the form of Khonshu.





“Horus was combined, syncretized and closely associated with deities other than the sun god, Re, notably (but not exclusively) Min, Sopdu,  Khonsu and Montu.” 


Donald Redford The Ancient Gods Speak: A Guide to Egyptian Religion (167)



“As a Divine Child within various Egyptian triads, Khonsu is also connected to the god Shu, who was likewise identified with Horus” 


DM Murdock Christ In Egypt The Horus Jesus Connection (177)


Citation: Donald Redford The Ancient Gods Speak: A Guide to Egyptian Religion (186)



“At The Same Time as Horus appears on the sarcophagi as the third person in the Triad of Osiris, Isis and Horus so Khonsu the third person of the triad on the Khonsu Temple is often Identified with Horus.” 


Beatrice L Golff  Symbols of Ancient Egypt In The Late Period: The Twenty First Dynasty (237)



“Khonsu was a Moon god originally but became a Sun god at Thebes and was Identified with Horus.”


Robert B Clarke An Order Outside Time: A Jungian View Of The Higher Self From Egypt To Christ


Faith Under Fire:



"Sun/Son are homophones that have no etymological connection in other languages!"


Although Acharya would often respond it is just a happy coincidence in the english language that many ancient writers caught on to and utilized this as a play on words which is true however it is something I disagree with even her on as the 2 words are indeed etymologically connected even in other languages as we shall see this video will slam the door one and for all on this Apollo-gist objection





"Massey was a poet not an Egyptologist! His writings are from muh 18th centuries" OK BOOMER!



Who Is Gerald Massey? In exploring the various Egyptian influences upon the Christian religion, one name frequently encountered is that of self-taught lay Egyptologist Gerald Massey (1828-1907), whose works were utilized in ZEITGEIST as well. Massey was fortunate enough to live during an exciting time when Egyptology was in its heyday, with the discovery in 1799 of the Rosetta Stone and the subsequent decipherment of hieroglyphics in 1822 by Champollion. This monumental development allowed for the exposure to light of the fascinating Egyptian culture and religion, meaning that before that time no one could adequately read the Egyptian texts, which Massey ended up spending a considerable portion of his life studying and interpreting, and relatively little was known about the religion, for which Massey possessed a keen sense of comprehension. In his detailed and careful analysis of the Egyptian religion, Gerald Massey utilized the work of the best minds of the time, including that of Champollion, as well as that of Dr. Budge; Sir Renouf; famed Egyptologist Sir William Flinders Petrie; noted Egyptologist Sir John Gardner Wilkinson, the "Father of British Egyptology"; Egyptologist and professor at the University of Berlin, Dr. Heinrich Brugsch; French Egyptologist and curator of the Egyptian section at the Louvre, le vicomte de Rougé; and expert on Egyptian mummies, Dr. Thomas Joseph Pettigrew, among many other scholars in a wide variety of fields. For example, Massey also utilized the work of Sir J. Norman Lockyer, the famous royal English astronomer who was friends with Budge and knew Egypt well, and of Dr. Charles Piazzi Smyth, royal Scottish astronomer and professor of Astronomy at the University of Edinburgh. Massey further studied the work of Reverend Archibald Sayce, professor of Comparative Philology at Oxford, as well as that of famous mythologist Sir James Frazer, although he did not agree with their conclusions. He likewise cited the work of Francois Lenormant, professor of Archaeology at the National Library of France, as well as that of noted philologist and comparative theologian Oxford professor Dr. Max Müller. Massey was very influenced by the work of Dr. Samuel Birch (1813-1885), famous archaeologist, Egyptologist and Keeper of the Department of Oriental Antiquities in the British Museum. Dr. Birch also was the founder of the very prestigious and influential Society of Biblical Archaeology, to which belonged many other notables in the fields of archaeology, Assyriology, Egyptology, etc. Much of this eye-opening work on comparative religion, in fact, emanated from this august body of erudite and credentialed individuals. Birch held many other titles and honors, including from Cambridge and Oxford Universities. His numerous works on Egypt are cited to this day in scholarly publications. In the "Introduction" to his book The Natural Genesis, Massey writes: The German Egyptologist, Herr Pietschmann…reviewed the "Book of the Beginnings"... The writer has taken the precaution all through of getting his fundamental facts in Egyptology verified by one of the foremost of living authorities, Dr. Samuel Birch, to whom he returns his heartiest acknowledgements.[1] Dr. Richard Pietschmann was a noted professor of Egyptology at the University of Goettingen, an impressive "peer reviewer" for one of Massey's early works on Egypt. By verifying his "fundamental facts" with Dr. Birch, Massey appears to be saying that his work was also reviewed by Birch. In his scholarly works on Egypt, Gerald Massey demonstrates his knowledge of numerous works from the Greek and Latin world as well, including both the Classical writers and Christian fathers such as Church historian Eusebius. Having taught himself to read not only English but also several other languages including Egyptian hieroglyphics, Massey


[1] Massey, TNG, viii




scrutinized and interpreted the texts and monuments for himself, such as the Egyptian Book of the Dead or "Ritual,"1 as well as the famous zodiacs in the Temple of Denderah and the "Nativity Scene" at the Temple of Luxor, texts and images that predated the "Christian era" by centuries to millennia.[2] Massey was not only skilled at interpreting the Egyptian data in a highly intelligent and unusual manner, but, having been raised a Protestant Christian compelled to memorize whole sections of the Bible, he was also quite knowledgeable about the Bible and was able to see the numerous and profound correlations between the Christian and Egyptian religions, or the "mythos and ritual," as he styled them. Gerald Massey appeared to possess an understanding of the spirituality and astrotheology being conveyed by the Egyptians more profound than most who have worked on the subject. As was the case with the Egyptian masses, no doubt, the astronomical or astrotheological meanings behind Christianity have been lost on the majority of its adherents. The case demonstrating that astrotheology—the reverence for the sun, moon, stars, planets and other natural phenomena—has been in reality the main motivating factor behind major religious myths and rituals the world over can be found in my book Suns of God. This fact of an astrotheological foundation for major religious and spiritual concepts— so brilliantly discerned by Gerald Massey, who was far ahead of his time—is being demonstrated on a regular basis by numerous archaeological discoveries around the world. Although Dr. Budge also has been the subject of certain unwarranted criticism, perhaps because he too found many parallels between Christianity and the Egyptian religion, he also had a fine grasp of the spirituality within said faith, and expressed it in spiritual terms usually reserved—in a culturally biased move—for the Bible. Dr. James P. Allen also possesses an exceptional understanding of the Egyptian spirituality and astrotheology, remarking upon it throughout his important works on the Pyramid Texts and Egyptian language. Regarding Egyptian nature worship, Dr. Allen states: Just as there are hundreds of recognizable elements and forces in nature, so too there were hundreds of Egyptian gods. The most important, of course, are the greatest phenomena.[3] Thus, rather than constituting alien and incomprehensible concepts, the Egyptian gods are reflective of natural phenomena, the "greatest" of which would be the cycles and characteristics of the sun, moon, planets, stars and so on, a fact demonstrated repeatedly by Massey to reveal the true meaning behind not only the Egyptian but also the Christian religion. Over the decades, much has been made about the numerous correlations determined by Gerald Massey between Horus and Jesus as well as other characters in the Egyptian and Christian religions. In Origin and Evolution of Religion, one of Massey's students, Dr. Albert Churchward, repeated many of these correspondences, and in The Christ Conspiracy, I too reiterated some of the more germane comparisons—out of hundreds—between Jesus and Horus. These parallels eventually found their way into ZEITGEIST and have been seen by millions. Naturally, these numerous parallels draw the wrath and intense scrutiny of Christian apologists and other detractors, as has been the case since they were first published.


[1] This title of "Ritual" was originally given to the Book of the Dead by Champollion. However, Renouf (xviii) objects that the Book does not constitute a "ritual" per se. Rather, it is, according to the British Museum's T.G.H. James, a "compilation of spells, prayers and incantations." In any event, this term "Ritual" will be used here interchangeably with "the Book of the Dead."


[2] The term "Christian era" is misleading, as such a time varied widely depending on the area. For example, the country of Lithuania did not become Christian until the 14th century; hence, the "Christian era" did not occur there until then.


[3] Allen, J., ME, 44.



Independently of Massey, however, many others also noted these numerous and profound correlations between the Egyptian and Christian religions, with Budge, for example, definitively stating that a treatise on the Egyptian religion's influence on Christianity would fill a "comparatively large volume."[1] A professed Christian, Budge was so convinced of the important correspondences between the two faiths that he believed the Egyptian religion had been fulfilled in Christianity. In 1877, William R. Cooper (1843-1878), a young lawyer and Egyptologist who was the Secretary of Dr. Birch's influential Society of Biblical Archaeology, as well as a Fellow and Member of the Royal Astronomical Society, published a work entitled The Horus Myth in Its Relation to Christianity, in which he highlighted many germane correspondences between the myth of the Egyptian god Horus and Christianity. So many were these correspondences, including in numerous physical artifacts, that Cooper termed them "the Horus Christian class."[2] From his constant apologies and declarations of devotion to the Christian faith, it is evident that Mr. Cooper was disturbed by his findings and hoped not to run afoul of the authorities who might censure him or worse. Indeed, at that time "blasphemy" laws in England were not only on the books—as they still are—but they were actually being used, ensnaring Rev. Dr. Robert Taylor, for example, who was imprisoned twice in Britain a half century previously for revealing Christianity to be a rehash based on previous religions and mythologies. Unfortunately, William Cooper died at the young age of 35, but his several valuable works on Egypt—and its relationship to the Bible and Christianity—were issued years before Gerald Massey published his famous writings on the same subject. Thus, the claim of correspondences between the Egyptian and Christian religions did not originate with Gerald Massey at all, and a significant number of the previous writers on the subject were well respected Christians. Those who insist that Gerald Massey's work has been "debunked" or "refuted" have rarely read it. Although certain aspects of Massey's work may be considered speculative, as is the case with practically every scholar's work, it can be honestly stated that most of Massey's analysis is not only brilliantly insightful but appears to be sound, based on what was popular religiously and mythologically prior to the Christian era, sometimes centuries and many times millennia before the period in question. This information, of course, is not amenable to Christian claims of veracity and uniqueness; hence, fervent believers and especially their leaders do not enjoy knowing or hearing about it. Regardless of what details may have been lacking in total accuracy, the facts will remain that major aspects of the Christian myth and ritual can be found in the preceding pre-Christian religions and mythologies found in the "known world" of the time. Moreover, the preceding characters such as Horus, Osiris, Isis, Hercules, Krishna and many other gods and goddesses cannot be deemed any more mythical or any less historical than Jesus, as the evidences for their existence on Earth are as, if not more, abundant and convincing than those of Jesus Christ. Although we do not find the severe criticisms regarding Gerald Massey—many of which are driven by a desire to make the gospel story historical no matter how much truth and facts are bent—to possess merit, this present analysis of the claims made in ZEITGEIST is not dependent on Massey's work for the most part. Only a small portion of his exegesis will be cited, in places where extrapolation of the texts has been necessary in order to find the correspondences hinted at by Budge and other experts on the Egyptian religion. For example, when one studies the work of the famous royal astronomer Sir J. Norman Lockyer, who thoroughly and scientifically demonstrated numerous astronomical properties and alignments of Egyptian myths and architecture, one can readily understand how Massey would find astrotheological correspondences within Christianity, as, combining the opinions


[1] Budge, TGE, I, xvi


[2] Cooper, THM, 49.



of Lockyer, et al., with those of Budge, et al., who definitively stated that the Egyptian religion was a major influence on Christianity, we are left with the following inescapable and logical conclusion: • If the myths of Osiris, Isis, Horus and Set, etc., are largely astronomical in nature; and • If Christianity is highly influenced by—and is a fulfillment of—the Egyptian religion in significant part; then • Christianity too must represent astronomical myth or astrotheology. Once this conclusion is reached, someone with a passion may go on a quest such as Massey's to find these correspondences between the Egyptian and Christian religions, as well as the true astrotheological underpinnings of Christianity. Furthermore, many of Gerald Massey's most important contentions can be verified and demonstrated utilizing the primary sources of Egyptian texts and monuments—in other words, the parallels are real and significant. In order to understand the many important correspondences between the Egyptian and Christian religions and how they have been framed in media like ZEITGEIST, as well as in my books such as The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God, we need to remember that these common motifs in the Egyptian religion are not necessarily found in story form, as they are in the gospel tale, which itself, we contend, is a patchwork of motifs, myths, sayings and rituals found in pre-Christian religion. It also needs to be kept in mind that the information concerning these previous myths, rituals and symbols was not written down in one neat, ancient encyclopedia but is found widespread around the Mediterranean and elsewhere. Many of the elements of the tale, however, could have been found within the walls of the massive Library of Alexandria, where undoubtedly much of the most serious work in creating Christianity, the gospel story and the character of Jesus Christ was committed. Indeed, it is my contention and that of others deemed "Jesus mythicists" that the creators of the gospel tale picked various themes and motifs from pre-Christian religions and myths, including and especially the Egyptian, and wove them together, using also the Jewish scriptures, to produce a unique version of the "mythos and ritual." In other words, the creators of the Christ myth did not simply take an already formed story, scratch out the name of Osiris or Horus and replace it with Jesus. They chose their motifs carefully, out of the most popular religious symbols, myths and rituals, making sure they fit to some degree with the Jewish "messianic scriptures," as they are termed, and created a new story that hundreds of millions since have been led to believe really and truly took place in history. Over the centuries, those who have clearly seen this development have asserted that this history is a fallacy imposed upon long pre-existing myths and rituals that have been reworked to result in the gospel story. In other words, we are convinced that "Jesus Christ" is a fictional character created out of older myths, rituals and symbols. While reading this companion guide, it is important also to recall these various caveats and points, including that what we ourselves are attempting to convey is that to the ancients these diverse themes and motifs shared by the pre-Christian and Christian religions were all important and very much in the front of their minds, such that they could not be overlooked or ignored when priests went about to create a new, empire-unifying religion that came to be called Christianity. With these facts at hand, as well as that there is no one concrete source for the complete story as found in the New Testament, but that there are many scattered sources used by the priesthood which created this tale, and that reconstructing their deeds can be very difficult, let us proceed through the claims made in the extraordinarily popular documentary ZEITGEIST, Part 1.




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Horus is the son of the god Osiris, born to a virgin mother.
The mother of Horus was believed to be the goddess Isis. Her husband, the god Osiris, was killed by his enemy Seth, the god of the desert, and later dismembered. Isis managed to retrieve all of Osiris’s body parts except for his phallus, which was thrown into the Nile and eaten by catfish. (I’m not making this up). Isis used her goddess powers to temporarily resurrect Osiris and fashion a golden phallus. She was then impregnated, and Horus was conceived. However this story may be classified, it is not a virgin birth.


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Horus was born of a virgin Isis on 25 December in a cave

  • Horus’ mother was indeed Isis but there are no Egyptologists who claim she was a virgin. She was a goddess married to Horus’ father, Osiris.
  • The legend of Horus’ birth, according to Plutarch, involved Isis making love to the dead body of Osiris and Horus being conceived from that.



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While It is true that Isis was indeed married to Osiris and had sex with her husbands corpse to conceive Horus in many myths and oral traditions and indeed Horus rapes his mother Isis in one story In the First Place we are discussing myths in regards to astronomical occurrences in nature not literal biographies of real people who posses real genitalia and contradictions such as having sex and/or being married and/or having many kids and yet remaining a perpetual Virgin are common place when it comes to ancient myths and mythology by it's very nature is contradictory.


Some other good examples of this would be Pseudo-Apollodorus which say's Amphitryon was swore under oath to keep his wife

Alkmene/Alcmena a virgin until his return and at the same time also says that Zeus/Jupiter bedded with her in the form and shape of Amphitryon and impregnated her with Herakles/Hercules.


And another example Is in the writings of Livy in which Rhea Sylvia Is Identified as a Vestal Virgin and at the same time also "ravished" I.e. Impregnated in a bush by the Roman War God Mars with 2 divine children (Romulus and Remus)


 “But the Fates had, I believe, already decreed the origin of this great city and the foundation of the mightiest empire under heaven. The Vestal was forcibly violated and gave birth to twins. She named Mars as their father, either because she really believed it, or because the fault might appear less heinous if a deity were the cause of it.” 

(Livy [Titus Livius], Ab Urbe Condita, From the Founding of the City, 1:4)


I could go on but hopefully you get the point by now. 


Moreover let's listen to what D.M Murdock had to say about this astral myth:


"The virginity of Horus’s mother, Isis, has been disputed, because in one myth she is portrayed as impregnating herself with Osiris’s severed phallus. In depictions of Isis’s impregnation, the goddess conceives Horus “while she fluttered in the form of a hawk over the corpse of her dead husband.”  In an image from the tomb of Ramesses VI, Horus is born out of Osiris’s corpse without Isis even being in the picture. In another tradition, Horus is conceived when the water of the Nile—identified as Osiris—overflows the river’s banks, which are equated with Isis. The “phallus” in this latter case is the “sharp star Sothis” or Sirius, the rising of which signaled the Nile flood.  Hence, in discussing these myths we are not dealing with “real people” who have body parts."


From The Zeitgeist Companion Source Guide and Acharya's article ISIS IS A VIRGIN MOTHER!!!!! 





"It is erroneously claimed that, because in one version of the myth Isis impregnates herself with Osiris's severed phallus, she cannot be considered a "virgin." In the first place, we are discussing myths, not set-in-stone biographies of real people with the relevant body parts. In addition, there is at least one other version of the myth in which Isis merely hovers above Osiris's body in order to become pregnant with Horus, as illustrated in an image from Denderah, and the fact will remain that Isis was considered by many of her ardent worshippers to be chaste and virginal regardless of the manner in which she was impregnated."


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"Osiris...begetting a son by Isis, who hovers over him in the form of a hawk.” (Budge, On the Future Life: Egyptian Religion, 80)


Moreover this claim of there being no sources or Egyptologists who say this is simply false as we have ALOT of primary sources in relation to this but I'll cite Just a several out of hundreds:


"The Pyramid Texts speak of “the great virgin” (hwn.t wr.t) three times (682c, 728a, 2002a…); she is anonymous, appears as the 

protectress of the king, and is explicitly called his mother once (809c). It is interesting that Isis is addresseed as hwn.t in a sarcophagus oracle that deals with her mysterious pregnancy. In a text in the Abydos Temple of Seti I, Isis herself declares: “I am the great virgin.”… In the Late Period (712-332 BCE) in particular, goddesses are frequently called “(beautiful) virgins,” especially Hathor, Isis, and Nephthys."


Dr. Jan Bergman, Dr. Helmer Ringgren and Johannas G. Botterweck in The Theological Dictionary of the Old Testament Volume II (339)



So I am Isis.
So I am a flame goddess.
You are Osiris.
I am mother to Horus.
I am sister to the god.
I am Hmmy.t.
I am the Great Virgin.


Temple of Seti I, Chapel of Osiris, West Wall-South Gate (13th century BCE)


Amice M. Calverley and Myrtle F. Broome, The Temple of King Sethos I at Abydos: Volume I, The Chapels of Osiris, Isis and Horus, ed. A.H. Gardiner (London: The Egypt Exploration Society, 1933), pl.9.




Notice how Isis says she is mother to Horus first THAN states that she is "The Great Virgin" On a side note the word maiden is a synonym for Virgin and sometimes the two words are interchangeble to the point of both words meaning a woman who hasent had sex.




“Aeon/Horus was born of the Virgin Isis on 6 January … The Egyptian goddess who was equally ‘the Great Virgin’ (Hwnt) and ‘Mother of the   God’ was the object of the very same praises bestowed upon her successor (The Virgin Mary).” 


 Egyptologist Dr. Reginald E. Witt, Isis in the Ancient World (218) (273)





"Isis was the sacred embodiment of motherhood and yet was known as the Great Virgin an apparent contradiction that will be familiar to Christians"


Egyptologist Dr. James Curl Egyptian Revival (13)





"The pagan occasion (Jan.6) was in celebration of the birth of the year-god Aion to the Virgin goddess Kore a hellenized transformation of Isis."


Mythologist Joseph Campbell The Mythic Image (34)



Kore being another greek name for Persephone/Proserpine and the word to also means Maiden/Virgin



"Isis came to be worshipped as the Primordial Virgin and their child as the Savior of the World. … Her titles included those of Mother of God, Great of Magic, Mistress of Heaven and the New Year, Star of the Sea (in Alexandria), Virgin of the World (in the Hermetic tradition)."


Egyptologist Dr. Bojana Mojsov, Osiris: Death and Afterlife of a God (xii) (xvi) (Emphasis added)



According to Egyptologist Jan Assman in relation to the severed phallus myth: "The Egyptian texts which seldom mention this scene know nothing of this detail" 


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Isis is the Great Virgin





"Isis was known as the “great virgin” and as the “mother of the god” among her devotees: in Egyptian mythology, she was credited with  giving birth to the Egyptian solar deity Horus."


Dr. Stephen J. Davis, The Early Coptic Papacy: The Egyptian Church and Its Leadership in Late Antiquity (77)




"Isis had been called both the ‘Mother of the God’, meaning the mother of the divine Horos (Harpocrates), and the ‘Great Virgin’."


Dr. Thomas F. Mathews and Dr. Norman Muller, in Images of the Mother of God: Perceptions of the Theotokos in Byzantium (4)





"This Egyptian deity under many names appears as the principle of natural fecundity among nearly all the religions of the ancient world. She was known as the goddess with ten thousand appellations and was metamorphosed by Christianity into the Virgin Mary, for Isis, although she gave birth to all living things – chief among them the Sun – still remained a virgin, according to the legendary accounts."


Manly P Hall (33rd Degree Freemason) The Secret Teachings Of All Ages (119)


The Isis of myth... We also know that "Virgin" means a woman who does not bow to a man, who is not dependent on a man. Isis never was.





“In Egypt the epithets add.t, rnn.t and Hwn.t, ‘girl; young woman; virgin’, are applied to many goddesses—e.g. Hathor and Isis—who had not   yet had sexual intercourse.” 


Dr. Bob Becking, in Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible (891)




“-Cybele, Aphrodite, Demeter, Astarte, Isis, Hathor, Inanna and Ishtar. Like them she (Mary) is both virgin and mother and like many of them 

she gives birth to a half-human half-divine child who dies and is reborn”


The Myth Of The Goddess: Evolution Of An Image by Anne Baring and Jules Cashford (548)




“Among the Egyptians, the zodiacal Isis is a virgin mother.”


Romualdo Gentilucci (1848), Life of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary (25)




“Even In the latter days of Egyptian Culture and religion Hathor retained her Independence and Virginity. In this respect she can be more   aptly compared to Athene who remain parthenos though sometimes called mother than with Aphrodite” 


Claas Jouco Bleeker Hathor and Thoth two key figures of the Ancient Egyptian Religion (64-65)  




“It is characteristic of the position of Hathor in the Ancient Egyptian Pantheon that there is no mention of a father as is the case with Horus   son of Osiris and Isis. Hathor’s motherhood is therefore conceived of as parthenogenesis or being purely symbolical.” 


Claas Jouco Bleeker Hathor and Thoth two key figures of the Ancient Egyptian Religion (63)




"According to the monuments themselves whose heiroglypghs we are now able to read he was a pious king who planned a temple to Hathor   the virgin mother of the gods offered images and golden ivory and wrote "the sacred book" "


Egyptologist James Bonwick  The Great Pyramid of Giza: History and Speculation 




"Hathor the divine mother: the Child Horus was now considered in the Lunar Cult as having been brought forth by Hathor. She was most commonly represented as a cow and was the mother goddess she was also the mother of generation childbirth and maternity. when she was depicted in human form she carried an ankh on her right hand and a staff in her left she was crowned with the double horns with the moons crecent wedged between them. When depicted as a cow she was wearing this same headgear in the legends she is concidered a Virgin" 


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Hathors Virginity is of equal importance to that of Isis primarily as she to was also Horus' Mother in some myths in place of Isis and she and Isis were quite often syncretized with each other and with Aphrodite/Venus too as we shall see later.





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“PARTHENOGENESIS. The myth that certain divine beings or culture-heroes have owed their birth, to a mother without the co-operation of a father has been found to be widespread. For example, Isis, Cybele, Leto, Demeter, and Venus are all represented as " virgin " mothers. The Chinese culture-hero Hon Chi was born of a mother who conceived by treading in a footprint of God. The principal deity of the Uapes Indians of Brazil, Jurupari, was bom of a virgin who conceived after drinking a draught of native beer.”


AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGIONS by Maurice Arthur Canney (278)




“Virgin-mothers. Long before the time of Christ parthenogenesis, or reproduction by a virgin, was as familiar to ancient Greek, Egyptian and Oriental legend as it is to modern biology. Guatama Buddha was only one of many Oriental heroes whose mother was a virgin. The Egyptian Horus was conceived by Isis without the direct intervention of a male. Isis has been identified with the Greek Demeter, and Demeter also was a virgin, even when she bore a child, Persephone or Proserpine.”


Heroes and Heroines of fiction by William Shepard Walsh (344) 




Of Course It Is worth noting that Isis was Syncretized / Equated with Demeter by many Greek and Roman authors Herodotus being an example already covered thus if Demeter is a Virgin and a mother than so too is Isis.




“As Mithraism moved westward it proved a fertile ground for the addition of mystic meaning. Practically all the symbolism of Osiris was added to the Mithraic cultus even to the fact that Isis became the virgin mother of Mithras.”


Religions Of The World by Gerald L. Berry (56)




“Many parts of the Jesus story are not based on Yeishu or ben Stada. Most Christian denominations claim that Jesus was born on 25 December. Originally the eastern Christains believed that he was born on 6 January. The Armenian Christians still follow this early belief while most Christians consider it to be the date of the visit of the Magi. As pointed out already, Jesus was probably confused with Tammuz born of the virgin Myrrha. We know that in Roman times, the gods Tammuz, Aion and Osiris were identified. Osiris-Aion was said to be born of the virgin Isis on the 6 January and this explains the earlier date for Christmas. Isis was sometimes represented as a sacred cow and her temple as a stable which is probably the origin of the Christian belief that Jesus was born in a stable. Although some might find this claim to be farfetched, it is known as a fact that certain early Christian sects identified Jesus and Osiris in their writings. The date of 25 December for Christmas was originally the pagan birthday of the sun god, whose day of the week is still known as Sunday. The halo of light which is usually shown surrounding the face of Jesus and Christian saints, is another concept taken from the sun god.”


The Myth Of The Historical Veracity Of Jesus by ben yehoshua hayyim.


A link to ben yehoshua hayyim's source will be provided at the end of this article.



Lastly before moving on it is worth noting that Osiris died before he could consumate his marraige to Isis and take her virginity:



“The marriage of Isis and Osiris was a very brief one, so brief, indeed, that they were not able to consummate their union while Osiris was alive. "Come to me, far face who passed beyond without my having seen him," Isis says after the death of her husband, leading one to suppose that he was murdered before their wedding night.” 


Dr. Dimitri Meeks and Dr. Christine Favard-Meeks , Daily Life of the Egyptian Gods (69) 



More proof of Isis' virginity comes from the fact that she was often Identified with a lesser known Virgin warrior goddess of war, wisdom and weaving called Neith who is the Egyptian equivalent Athena. and She was also known for spontaneously divine children including Ra, Apep, Osiris, Sobek and others all on her own without a male consort.


Egyptologist Barbara Lesko Talks alot about this in her book The Great Goddesses Of Egypt (44-63) (Although Lesko claims Neith wasn't a Virgin mother even in the myths in which she has no consort this statement is rather silly and untrue based the very fact alone she admitted the Goddess Neith could Produce Children all on her own without male presence which is the VERY pre requisite needed to be a Virgin Mother) and as does Margerite Rigoglioso in her Book Virgin Mother Goddesses Of Antiquity in an entire chapter called Neith/Athena/Metis.





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"Neith (Net) was the mother goddess, … She was a creator goddess who formed all things. In the beginning, she found herself in the watery waste of Nun, and she formed herself when the world was still in shadow and when there was no earth on which to rest, when no plant grew."


Dr. Harold Scheub, A Dictionary of Mythology: The Mythmaker as Storyteller (172)


Now bearing those facts about Neith and her solitude in mind, there is a statue currently at the Vatican’s Gregorian Egyptian Museum which dates to the time of the Persian rule of Egypt, specifically the early reign of King Darius I, c. 519 BCE.[6] It is a depiction of Udjahorresnet, a Saitic physician and priest of Neith. The inscriptions on this statue contain several adorations to Neith, and one line in particular, located under the right arm, reads:


"I let his majesty know the greatness of Sais, that it is the seat of Neith-the-Great, the mother who bore Re and inaugurated birth when birth had not yet been."


Miriam Lichtheim Ancient Egyptian Literature Vol. I: The Old and Middle Kingdoms (38) 








Statue of the priest Udjahorresnet, 6th century BCE, which attests to the virgin motherhood of Neith.


In corroboration with this is a statue of Neith herself that was once located at her temple in Sais. Though it is now no longer extant, its existence and inscription was documented by a couple of writers from antiquity. Reconstructing it from quotes by Plutarch and Proclus, the inscription said: I am what is, and what will be, and what has been, No one has lifted my veil.The fruit I bore was the sun. 



Dr. Erik Hornung comments that the veil having never been lifted “clearly refers to sexual union,” [1] and the obvious lack thereof. Egyptologist Jan Assmann states, concerning the inscription:


"It refers not to an epistemological dilemma, the absolute unattainability of truth, but to the parthenogenesis of the sun out of the womb of a maternal All-Goddess." [2]




[1] Erik Hornung, The Secret Lore of Egypt: Its Impact on the West (134)


[2] Jan Assmann, “Periergia: Egyptian Reactions to Greek Curiosity,” in Cultural Borrowings and Ethnic Appropriations in Antiquity, ed.                   Erich S. Gruen (47)




"Neith was a creator goddess, and she did not need a partner in order to conceive and give birth."


Dr. Olaf E. Kaper, The Egyptian God Tutu (105)





“Neith did not depend on a male partner for her creative powers, which encompassed the entire universe of gods, animals, and humans.” 


Dr. Barabara S. Lesko, The Great Goddesses of Egypt (50)




“In Sais in the Delta, for example, there was a virgin goddess who gave birth to the sun at the beginning of time by some form of parthenogenesis.” 


Dr. John D. Ray, Reflections of Osiris: Lives from Ancient Egypt (63)



So the Egyptian sun god Re was born of a virgin, and that was literally written in stone many centuries before the Common Era.

Special thanks and all credit goes to Neal Boswell for this information. I will provide a link to him and his work at the end of this article.




Although wikipedia and other villains of the faith try to disprove Neiths virginity by pointing out the various myths in which she is portrayed as having a consort weather it be Seth, Khnum, Sobek or even as E.A. Wallis Budge pointed out Amen-Ra was her husband as well but again we are discussing myths and myths do not possess genitalia and further more it isn’t even until later traditions she is said to have had consorts and earlier traditions held that she gave birth to several Gods without a father or male presence involved nor had any husband of any kind.  



I will list further sources on Neith as a Virgin Mother in a bit but first here are some dumb things Errior (Richard Carrier) had to say on this matter: 



"BTW, attempts to equate Neith with Isis or Cleopatra as also virginal mothers are not well-founded: see my discussion in That Luxor Thing Again."




Me and NW Barker had a blast dicussing this via email so here are quotes I made in response to Carrier


(Please keep in mind there is vulgarity my apologies but I am only quoting from what I said to FTL because It perfectly responds to and adresses Carriers point)


"First of all his claim is silly because he tries to say that Isis impregnating herself with the severed pee pee of Osiris means she cannot be considered a virgin which is dumb because it fails to take into account that contradictions such as being impregnated with a severed phallus to give birth to a child and yet also being "The Great Virgin" or "immaculate Virgin" and the sort are common place within ancient myth and myth/mythology are again keeping in mind by very nature contradictory."



"It also fails to take into account that are other myths in which Isis is impregnated in a variety of different ways that Don't have the phallus involved from being impregnated by a bolt of lightning as related in Coffin Text Spell 148 translated by Raymound Falkner and further related by Herodotus, Plutarch and Pomponius Mela in terms of a "Virgin Cow" Identified with Hathor and sometimes Isis in the Form of an "Isis cow" being Impregnated with the Apis Bull through a lightning flash or moonbeams to losing the severed phallus and having resort to Parthenogenisis (the Greek word and Scholarly Term For Virgin Birth) to conceive Horus on her own as related by James Curl in Egyptian revival page 13 or 15 can't quite remember at the moment  to being impregnated by magic spells as related by E.A. Wallis Budge "In all these Legends great magical powers were atributed to her for Thoth the heart and intelligence of the God had taught her the spells incantations magical names and words of power which he had employed in making the wishes of this God to take concrete form and he had also taught her how to use them By means of them Isis drew the seed into herself from Osiris after his death and concieved Horus"  Legends of Our Lady Mary the perpetual virgin and her mother Hannâ (lii) and Jan Assman (I'd marry someone just to have that name) even pointed out the egyptian texts which seldom mention this scene know nothing of this detail in other words it is a much LATER MYTH!"


On a side note before we move on to the rest it also goes without saying that a cute egyptian girl dildoing herself with a magically produced artificial phallus made from Gold, Wood, Clay and Reeds or the Sharp Star Sothis after losing her husbands phallus to a crocodile in order to give birth to a Horus isn't the same thing as actully having sex with a real organic penis to give birth to a child and thus is an immaculate conception.


"Further more Isis/Neith are the same goddess as according to Budgie Boy In From Fetish To God In Ancient Egypt pgs 58-59 stated that Neith "as a cow goddess was Identified with Hathor and Isis" furthermore the same information is relayed by Marguerite Rigoglioso In her book Virgin Mother Goddesses Of Antiquity (28) "Rock art throughout the northern part of the African continent dating as far back as 6000 B.C.E. widely depicts sacred bovines and female figures wearing horns, which may represent early forms of Neith and later goddesses with whom she was identified, such as Hathor and Isis" " 


"Joshua J Mark in his online article about Neith also said as much" Neith (aka Net, Neit or Nit) and is one of the oldest deities of ancient Egypt who was worshipped early in the Pre-Dynastic Period (c. 6000 - 3150 BCE) and whose veneration continued through the Ptolemaic Dynasty (323 - 30 BCE), the last to rule Egypt before the coming of Rome. She was a war goddess, goddess of creation, mother goddess who invented birth, and funerary goddess who cared for and helped to dress the souls of the dead. Her cult center was at Sais in the Nile Delta and she continued as the most popular goddess of Lower Egypt even after her attributes were largely given to Isis and Hathor and those goddesses became more popular in Egypt. Neith continued to be honored as the patron goddess of Sais throughout Egypt's history as she was considered a great protector of the people of the land and the most effective mediator between humanity and the gods."

"Although many of her attributes were given to Isis and Hathor, as previously noted, her worship never declined. Even during eras where more popular deities received the greater attention, Neith continued to be regarded with reverence and awe and her festival was considered one of the most important in ancient Egypt."


"Even Wikipedia admits this conflation" "Both Plutarch and a later philosopher, Proclus, mentioned a veiled statue of the Egyptian goddess Neith, whom they conflated with Isis, citing it as an example of her universality and enigmatic wisdom. It bore the words "I am all that has been and is and will be; and no mortal has ever lifted my mantle."

"The statue was at a temple in Sais, Neith's cult center. She was largely conflated with Isis in Plutarch's time, and he says the statue is of "Athena [Neith], whom [the Egyptians] consider to be Isis". Proclus' version of the quotation says "no one has ever lifted my veil," implying that the goddess is virginal.[169] This claim was occasionally made of Isis in Greco-Roman times, though it conflicted with the widespread belief that she and Osiris together conceived Horus.[170] Proclus also adds "The fruit of my womb was the sun", suggesting that the goddess conceived and gave birth to the sun without the participation of a male deity, which would mean it referred to Egyptian myths about Neith as the mother of Ra"





Mehet-Weret or Mehturt (Ancient Egyptianmḥt-wrt) is an ancient Egyptian deity of the sky in ancient Egyptian religion. Her name means "Great Flood".She was mentioned in the Pyramid Texts. In ancient Egyptian creation myths, she gives birth to the sun at the beginning of time, and in art she is portrayed as a cow with a sun disk between her horns. She is associated with the goddesses NeithHathor, and Isis, all of whom have similar characteristics, and like them she could be called the "Eye of Ra".[2]

Mehet-Weret is primarily known as being the "Celestial Cow" or "Cow Goddess" because of her physical characteristics, but she contributes to the world in more ways than that. She is also the Goddess of Water, Creation, and Rebirth; in Egyptian mythology, Mehet-Weret is one of the main components in the making and survival of life.[3]







"Moreover as we already know from Hildegard Temporini, Wilhelm Zitman and de Vos's sources that Isis and Neith were so strongly connected that the 2 were often Conflated in the form of Neith-Isis and Isis-Neith and we are informed by Plutarch in his On Isis and Osiris writings and as further related in the writings of the fourth century greek philosopher Proclus both Neith and Isis (in the form of Isis-Neith) were syncretised with the greek goddess Athena (herself the virgin mother of Apollo/Dionysus as related by Cicero in On the Nature of the Gods Book III as well as Macrobius and Arnobius in terms of Apollo and Dionysus being the same) in the form of a popular statue the Egyptians were worshiping around that time which thus would have made both goddesses syncretic with each other as well. Isis in the form of Neith/Athena even says according to an inscription "The present and the future and the past, I am. My undergarment no one has uncovered. The fruit I brought forth, the sun came into being." sound like Virgin Birth and Alpha and Omega anyone?


"Lastly according to the Egyptian Book Of The Dead Chapter 66 (Execute Order 66! -Palpatine) it states "I was conceived by Sekhet and the goddess Neith gave birth to me I am Horus" - Budge Translation. In other words Sekhmet herself a form of Isis in terms of the Papyrus Julihac and a form of Hathor too and as seen in Dawn of Astronomy (31) by Norman J Lockyer Sekhmet is a dawn goddess and of course in mythology the dawn goddess is inviolable and hence Sekhmet who is a perpetual Virgin symbolizing the “Virgin Dawn” in astrology was also considered to be the Virgin mother of Horus as well as Neith too. So it can be truthfully said Horus is the Son/Sun of Neith and Isis too so how do they have no connection if they are both mothers of Horus?" 


"Thus in conclusion Isis Is Neith and Vice versa Neith is Isis there for Carrier/Errior cannot honestly claim that Neith was a virgin mother of Ra/Horus (as the 2 were interchangeable to point of syncretism in the form of Re Herakte and Harpocrates became Ra/Re at 12 noon as related by Norman J Lockyer and other sources) but Isis somehow wasn't."


"Furthermore Shitchard Errior in his Virgin Birth Its Pagan Guys Get Over It Article tries to make a distinction Between Virgin Birth and Sexless Conception....as if they somehow aren't the same. From Aphrodite/Venus (Hathor) born from the seafoam of Uranus's severed balls lol to Ra/Atum/Ptah and others in Egypt being "Self Created" To Ishtar being born sexlessly from Kumarbi eating the magic sky pixie Anu's Deez Nuts (HA! GOTTEEEEEM HA!) to Adam, Lillith and Eve being born from the Earth and a rib to Minerva's birth from the side of Jupiter/Jove's head and even Mithras birth from a rock and Dionysus born to the Virgin Semele by a flash of lightning or alternatively by her drinking his torn up heart in the form of a potion these among many many other examples are NO DIFFERENT than Virgin Birth!"



“Isis, taking the shape as a falcon. The lightening-flash strikes and the gods are afraid. Isis wakes pregnant with the seed of her brother Osiris . She is uplifted, even she the widow, and her heart are glad with the seed of her brother Osiris. She says: ‘Oh gods! I am Isis the sister of Osiris who wept for the father of the gods, Osiris, who settled the slaughterings of the Two Lands. His seed is within my body, and it is as the son of the foremost of the Ennead who will rule this land and who will become heir to Geb and who will speak for his father and who will slays Seth, the enemy of his father Osiris, that I have molded the shape of the god within (my) egg. Come, Oh gods, so that you shall make his protection within my womb. Know in your hearts that your lord is he, this god, who is in his egg, blue(?) of form, the lord of the gods. Great is their beauty, namely (that of) the blue barbs(?) of the two plumes’.”


Egyptologist Raymond Faulkner “Translation of Spell 148 of the Coffin Texts” The Journal of Egyptian Archeology 54: (40-44)




“This Apis is the calf of a cow which is never afterwards able to have another. The Egyptian belief is that a flash of light descends upon the cow from heaven, and this causes her to receive Apis.”


Herodotus, Histories 3.28.2 




“The Apis, they say, is the animate image of Osiris, and he comes into being when a fructifying light thrusts forth from the moon and falls upon a cow in her breeding-season”


Plutarch, Moralia, 368C




“Apis—a black bull, marked by particular spots and different from other bulls in his tail and in his tongue—is the divinity of all the Aegyptian peoples. He is born only rarely, conceived not from mating cattle, as they say, but miraculously in a celestial fire. The day of his birth is particularly festive to the whole people."


Pomponius Mela, Description of the World.” 1.9.58 (mid 1st cen. CE)




"I was conceived by Sekhet and the goddess Neith gave birth to me I am Horus"


E.A. Wallis Budge Ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead: Prayers, Spells, and Other Texts (120) (EBD CH.66)






"But Horus was not the only sun-god recognised by the Egyptians. His own father Osiris, the Saviour (of whom Horus was a re-incarnation) was born - also at the winter solstice - of an immaculate virgin, the goddess Neith who like Isis mother of Horus was known by the titles of Mother of God, Immaculate Virgin, Queen of Heaven, Star of the Sea, The Morning Star, The Intercessor."


Wiiliam Williamson The Great Law: A Study of Religious Origins and Of The Unity Underlying Them (26)




"...at the last, when [Osiris's] cult disappeared before the religion of the Man Christ, the Egyptians who embraced Christianity found that the moral system of the old cult and that of the new religion were so similar, and the promises of resurrection and immortality in each so much alike, that they transferred their allegiance from Osiris to Jesus of Nazareth without difficulty. Moreover, Isis and the child Horus were straightway identified with Mary the Virgin and her Son, and in the apocryphal literature of the first few centuries which followed the evangelization of Egypt, several of the legends about Isis and her sorrowful wanderings were made to centre round the Mother of Christ. Certain of the attributes of the sister goddesses of Isis were also ascribed to her, and, like the goddess Neith of Sais, she was declared to possess perpetual virginity. Certain of the Egyptian Christian Fathers gave to the Virgin the title 'Theotokos,' or 'Mother of God,' forgetting, apparently, that it was an exact translation of neter mut, a very old and common title of Isis."


Dr. E.A. Wallis Budge, The Gods of Egypt (xv-xvi)



"Virgo, who now lends her name to this sign of the zodiac, is the heavenly Nut, the virgin mother of Osiris, who was called the “perfect one” and “the ancient one,” and symbolized light and goodness, concord or harmony, peace and happiness. This virgin, the “great mother,” the “queen of heaven,” the “inscrutable Neith, whose veil no mortal could lift and live..."


Orlando P Shmidt A Self-Verifying Chronological History of Ancient Egypt: From the Foundation of the Kingdom to the Beginning of the Persian Dynasty (53)


"Zeus, Father of the gods, visited Semele in the form of a thunderstorm; and she gave birth to the great saviour and deliverer Dionysus. Zeus, again, impregnated Danae in a shower of gold; and the child was Perseus Devaki, the radiant Virgin of the Hindu mythology, became the wife of the god Vishnu and bore Krishna, the beloved hero and prototype of Christ. With regard to Buddha, St. Jerome says “It is handed down among the Gymnosophists of India that Buddha, the founder of their system, was brought forth by a Virgin from her side.” The Egyptian Isis, with the child Horus on her knee, was honored centuries before the Christian era, and worshipped under the names of “Our Lady,” “Queen of Heaven,” “Star of the Sea,” “Mother of God,” and so forth. Before her, Neith, the Virgin of the World, whose figure bends from the sky over the earthly plains and the children of men, was acclaimed as mother of the great god Osiris. The saviour Mithra, too, was born of a Virgin, as we have had occasion to notice before; and on Mithraist monuments the mother suckling her child is not an uncommon figure."


- Edward Carpenter Pagan and Christian Creeds http://www.edwardcarpenter.net/ecpcc10.htm



"Osiris- like priest of Amun- Ra, king of the gods, Osorkon deceased, son of the priest of Amun-Ra, king ofthe gods, Shishank deceased, the royal son of King Amunmai Osorkon ,” Denon, pl. 137. 108. The same; Osiris the son of Neith and the son of Seb,” M.H. i. 13. “ In the year LXII., on the twenty-ninth day of Pachon , of the reign of King Rameses II., beloved by Osiris lord of Amenti,” E. I. 8. As the king was beloved by this god he was probably dead, and thus his series of dates may have been continued by his successors : he could hardly have reigned sixty two years."


Samuel Sharp: Egyptian Hieroglyphics: Being an Attempt to Explain Their Nature, Origin, and Meaning : with a Vocabulary (50)


"Thirdly, it is the opinion of the students of esoteric Egyptian religion that Isis, Neith, etc., were the same ; so also Osiris, Ra, and the other Gods. Isis is said to be the wife, mother, sister, and daugh ter of Osiris, also the mother of Horus. Neith is said to be the mother of Ra. Ra, however, is identified with Osiris, and Horus is called the son of Ra (See translation by Chabas of Alexandrian Obelisk where Horus is repeatedly called " Son of the Sun," " Son of Ra," and he is even spoken of as the Son of Ptah)."


Historic Magazine and Notes and Queries: A Monthly of History ..., Volumes 9-10 (114)


"In the case of Merneptah, Neith addresses the deceased, who is equated with Osiris, as her son, while in the case of Amenemhet, Horus addresses his father."


Egyptologist Jan Assman Death and Salvation In Ancient Egypt (272)


"Isis is the sister, wife, daughter , and mother of Osiris ; in her cosmogonic property she is like Neith ; in the Papyrus she is called the Neith of Lower Egypt."


An Essay On Pantheism John Hunt (43)



Christian Karl Josias Freiherr von Bunsen in Egypt's Place in Universal History: An Historical Investigation in ..., Volume 1 (418-19) noted that Isis was the "Neith of Upper and Ma of Lower Egypt:"




Moreover it is worth noting that the egyptian word for Neith NT was transliterated as Nut (prononced Newt or Noot) and Mut/Muth (prononced as Mewt or Moot and Muth) as pointed by John Morris in the New Nation Volume I or II (88-92)




Meaning that Nut the Egyptian Sky Goddess and Mut the Egyptian Mother Goddess and Queen of the Gods/Goddesses were both Identical to Neith who was quite often syncretized with Isis and Hathor just as Sekhmet who was identified with Mut at thebes was also equated with the 2 aforementioned goddesses and If Nut is the same as Neith than not only is she a Virgin Mother and "Queen of Heaven" but this would further prove Neith as being mother of Osiris plus here is more Info: "The authority of Thebes waned later and Amun was assimilated into Ra. Mut, the doting mother, was assimilated into Hathor, the cow-goddess and mother of Horus who had become identified as Ra's wife. Subsequently, when Ra assimilated Atum, the Ennead was absorbed as well, and so Mut-Hathor became identified as Isis (either as Isis-Hathor or Mut-Isis-Nekhbet), the most important of the females in the Ennead (the nine), and the patron of the queen. The Ennead proved to be a much more successful identity and the compound triad of Mut, Hathor, and Isis, became known as Isis alone—a cult that endured into the 7th century CE and spread to Greece, Rome, and Britain." https://religion.wikia.org/wiki/Mut#:~:text=Subsequently%2C when Ra assimilated Atum,the patron of the queen. thus Isis-Neith is in fact Mut which is important for reasons I'm about to get into. 


Mut was the wife of Amen Ra and mother of Khonsu (the lunar Horus later turned identical to him) and yet at the same time was also said to have gave Parthenogenesis (Virgin Birth) to the ENTIRE UNIVERSE! Furthermore one of Mut's symbols was a Vulture and she was sometimes even depicted as a woman with the head of a vulture which was identifed with the concept of Parthenogenesis/Virgin Birth as admitted by

Early Church Fathers such as Origen and Tertullian. As well as noted by many modern egyptologists such as John Anthony West in

The Travelers Key to Ancient Egypt (70) 









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"The Egyptians fable the whole species [of vultures] is female, and they conceive by receiving the breath of the East Wind, even as the trees do by receiving the West Wind."


Plutarch, Moralia 286C 595



"The belief that the vulture represented femininity and motherhood, and the related ideas that there were only female vultures and that they were virgin born, without a male begetter, thus appears to come from Egypt. In an Egyptian Demotic papyrus from the second century CE, we can read the following words of the goddess Mut: “I am the noble vulture (nryt) of the male brother, the lord of Thebes, i.e. the noble vulture of which no male exists.” This Egyptian statement that there were only female vultures is confirmed by various Graeco-Roman writers." 


Dr. Herman Te Velde, in Servant of Mut: Studies in Honor of Richard A. Fazzini (244) (Emphasis Added)




"They say, too, that among vultures there are only females, which become parents alone."


Tertullian of Carthage,Adversus Valentinianos 4.10




"It is said that no male vulture is ever born: all vultures are female. And the birds knowing this and fearing to be left childless, take measures to produce them as follows. They fly against the south wind. If however the wind is not from the south, they open their beaks to the east wind, and the inrush of air impregnates them, and their period of gestation lasts for three years."


Aelian, On the Characteristics of Animals 2.46 598




"I have to say that the Creator showed in the birth of various animals that what He did in the case of one animal, He could do, if He wished, also with others and even with men themselves. Among the animals there are certain females that have no intercourse with the male, as writers on animals say of vultures; this creature preserves the continuation of the species without any copulation. Why, therefore, is it incredible that if God wished to send some divine teacher to mankind He should have made the organism of him that was to be born come into being in a different way instead of using generative principle derived from sexual intercourse of men and women? Moreover, according to the Greeks themselves not all men were born from a man and a woman."


Origen Adamantius, Contra Celsum 1.37





All These strong links between Mut/Muat and Virgin motherhood / Parthenogenesis couple that with the fact that she is Identified with Isis inderectly with her being equivelant to Neith and Sekhmet and directly in terms of being Identifed syncretized with Isis-Hathor or when she is in her form as Mut-Isis-Nekhbet and Isis Usurped the role of Mut as Goddess in the Egyptian triad so therefore Isis Is Mut therefore the points made are not only more proof of more pre christian pagan virgin mothers in egypt besides Isis but also serve as further proof of Isis herself as a virgin!



In fact many artworks of Isis potray her as having a vulture headress or even as being a literal vulture! Here are various Images Potraying Isis, Hathor, Mut and other Goddesses and Queens related to them wearing the Sinister Six Vulture headresses lol!  


Statue of the virgin mother Isis donning the vulture cap, 7th century BCE





Various pics of Aset/Isis donning the Vulture head cap


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Depictions of Isis as a Vulture!


"One explanation of the specifically funerary connotations of the vulture and cobra in the dead king’s tomb is suggested by another object from Tutankhamun’s burial. It is a naoform pectoral, on which the king, as Osiris, stands flanked by a vulture wearing a White Crown with plumes, and a winged cobra in a Red Crown. The two stand on ‘neb’-baskets, extend ‘shen’-signs towards Osiris, and in every way look exactly like Nekhbet and Wadjet. But 642 their inscriptions say otherwise: the vulture is named as Isis, and the cobra as Nephthys. … Given the frequency of such representations, it is not surprising that Isis and Nephthys should sometimes be represented as a vulture and a cobra, nor, given her association with the White Crown, that it was Isis who was identified with the vulture. … It is this image that seems to be invoked by Spell 157 of the Book of the Dead, which explicitly associates the vulture of gold at the throat of the deceased with Isis."


Dr. Edna R. Russmann, Chief of Seers: Egyptian Studies in Memory of Cyril Aldred (271-272)



"Spell for the vulture of gold put at the throat of the blessed one. To be said by Osiris N.: Isis has returned after alighting at the cities and seeking places of concealment (for) Horus at (his) going forth ‹from› the swamps." Book of the Dead, Spell 157 P 1-S








Furthermore Mut and Hathor in the interpretatio graeca were both Syncretized with Hera/Juno who despite her Marital status to Zeus/Jupiter and amount of children she was said to have given birth to renewed her Virginity yearly in a lake near Argos and was thus mythically speaking was a perpetual virgin mother! infact she gives birth to several kids without union of her husband Zeus in several stories from giving birth to Set/Apep/Typhon by merely smacking her hands on the ground (Mother Earth) And While Homer States that Hera/Juno was impregnated through sexual intercourse with Amon Ra/Jupiter with Ptah/Hepheastus/Vulcan another writing found in Apollodorus, The Library 1.3.5, 2nd century BC says she instead gives birth to Vulcan on her own through will power alone and in Ovid's Metamorphesis Mut/Juno enters the garden of the flower goddess flora and becomes pregnant with Onuris/Ares/Mars merely through touching a flower all rather obvious virgin birth tales precedeing Christianity. 




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In Virgin Mother Goddesses of Antiquity (65-99) Margerite Rigoglioso has an entire chapter dedicated to this matter titled 

Hera: Virgin Queen of Heaven, Earth, and the Underworld. Proving that Isis-Mut, Hathor and Hera/Juno as Virginal mothers at least centuries if not millenia before the common era.



As we have seen from prior sources and Information Hathor despite her role as goddess of Sex, Beauty, Love and fertility at the same time had virginity comparable to Athena/Minerva and like Isis she to was a later form or variation of Neith and thus would have had all of Neith's Virgin Birth Creatrix powers couple this with the fact that she was concidered the mother of Horus/Harpocrates and Apis and it is for these reasons she would have been concidered the Virgin mother of Apis and Horus further substantiating Horus being born of a Voigin as the

I-talians of the Sopranos or Godfather series would put it lol. 


Increasingly in the Graeco Roman period onward Hathor is also associated or identified with Isis as Isis-Hathor who had her temple at Dendera and who was identified with the Greek goddess of love Aphrodite as was purportedly also the Virgin Mary on the Greek Island of Cyprus not far from Egypt Isis is thus strongly associated love which is mri in Egyptian Moreover shortly before the common era Isis had "completely assimilated" Hathor persumably absorbing her epithets as well.


Heyob, 49; Meyboom, 35, 38, 59, 60, 78, etc. 

Meyboom, 59.

Heyob, 49

Witt, 124



“The more general archetype was often seen in mythology as threefold; thus, for example, Aphrodite was seen as Aphrodite the Virgin, Aphrodite the Wife, and Aphrodite the Whore. A similar triplicity is found in the figure of Isis as Sister, Wife and Widow of Osiris.”


Adam Mclean: The Triple Goddess (16)


Aphrodite herself as we have seen from prior sources in spite of her marital relations with Montu Ra/Mars, amount of children she had and her role as a Vain and openly promiscuous Sex Goddess was also a perpetual Virgin and thus would have been concidered the Virgin Mother of Cupid, Phobos, Deimos, Hermaphrodite, Harmonia, Anneus and Our LAWED and saviour Julius Christ! Who after the beheading of Pompey the Baptist was betrayed and murdered by Brutus Iscariot! 😱 and because of her syncretizem with Isis/Neith and Hathor she would also have been concidered the Virgin Mother of Ra Horakthy, Osiris, Sobek and Apep/Apophis or Seth as he was also called as we will see later.


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Furthermore Because Aphrodite/Hathor was identicle to the "Virgin Cow" that gave birth to Apis Via a flash of lightning or moonbeams and Apis himself was syncretic with Osiris hence the Popular Mystery Cult God Serapis this means Venus/Hathor would in some myths have been concidered the Virgin Mother of Osiris through a "Satanic" Lightning flash or by Lunar Rays.




The Virgin Isis The Virgin Isis-Mery


"...at the last, when [Osiris's] cult disappeared before the religion of the Man Christ, the Egyptians who embraced Christianity found that the moral system of the old cult and that of the new religion were so similar, and the promises of resurrection and immortality in each so much alike, that they transferred their allegiance from Osiris to Jesus of Nazareth without difficulty. Moreover, Isis and the child Horus were straightway identified with Mary the Virgin and her Son, and in the apocryphal literature of the first few centuries which followed the evangelization of Egypt, several of the legends about Isis and her sorrowful wanderings were made to centre round the Mother of Christ. Certain of the attributes of the sister goddesses of Isis were also ascribed to her, and, like the goddess Neith of Sais, she was declared to possess perpetual virginity. Certain of the Egyptian Christian Fathers gave to the Virgin the title 'Theotokos,' or 'Mother of God,' forgetting, apparently, that it was an exact translation of neter mut, a very old and common title of Isis."



                                                                                                                            Dr. E.A. Wallis Budge, The Gods of Egypt (xv-xvi)




"…Horus was not the only sun-god recognised by the Egyptians. His own father Osiris, the Savior (of whom Horus was a re-incarnation), was born—also at the winter solstice—of an immaculate virgin, the goddess Neith, who, like Isis, the mother of Horus, was known by the titles of Mother of God, Immaculate Virgin, Queen of Heaven, Star of the Sea, The Morning Star, The Intercessor."                                                                                                                             




                                                                                                          William Williamson, The Great Law: A Study of Religious Origins (26)




Over the centuries, a number of individuals have brought to attention the obvious correspondences between the Christian Madonna and Child and the images of the great goddess Isis holding and suckling her babe, Horus. There are many pre-Christian images of Isis and Horus in this "Madonna and Child" pose, and it has been asserted by not a few people, quite logically, that the Christian iconography is directly based upon this extremely popular Egyptian image. Furthermore, it has been claimed repeatedly that, like her Christian counterpart, the Egyptian Mother of God was deemed an "immaculate virgin."[1] In addition, it has been evinced that the two Divine Mothers even shared the same name, with Jesus's mother named "Mary," of course, while Horus's mother possessed the epithet of "Meri" or "Mery," as the Egyptian word is transliterated by several authors including famed Egyptologist Dr. W.M. Flinders Petrie.[2] In addition to the fact that there have been pre Christian goddesses named "Mari," such as on the Greek island of Cyprus,[3] this epithet "Meri" or "Mery" in Egyptian simply means "beloved" or "delight," and we would thus expect it to have been applied many times to Isis at some point in the history of her long reverence by millions of people around the Mediterranean. In reality, the epithet meri/mery was so commonly used in regard to numerous figures in ancient Egypt, such as gods, kings, priests, government officials and others, that we could not list here all of the instances in which it appears. For example, many Egyptian kings and authorities bore the appellation of "Meri," including Meri-ab-taui, Meri-Amen-setep, MeriAten, Meri-ka-Ra, Meri-mes, Meri-neter and so on.[4] Some of these royal epithets represent


[1] Cf. Acharya/Murdock, SOG, 200-201.

[2] Petrie, 139.

[3] Graves, 326.

[4] Budge, BKE, 243.



"Horus names," while Horus himself is called "beloved"—i.e., meri—in the Book of the Dead.[1] Indeed, one of Horus's common titles is Se-meri-f: "the Beloved Son."[2] The famous pharaoh Ramses II's wife, Nefertari, was also named Mery Mut, [3] "Beloved Mother" or " Mother Mary," so to speak, long before the Christian era. Another queen was named "Merneith," a compound of mery with the goddess name Neith.[4] Hence, in consideration of the fact that Neith was a virgin mother, [5] in this name we possess the concept of a "virgin Mery" long prior to the Christian era. Obviously, the Egyptian name was not in English; nor was the "Virgin Mary" called as much in the ancient Greek texts in which her story was originally told. The point is that the Egyptians who would later become Christians were already familiar with a virgin mother of God named Mery.[6] Several gods in addition to Horus, such as Ra and Amen, also had the epithet meri/mery attached to their names: Ra-Meri or Meri-Ra and Amen-Meri or Meri-Amen, meaning "beloved of Ra" or "beloved Ra" and "beloved of Amen" or "beloved Amen." The god Ptah was likewise deemed "beloved," as in "Ptah-Meri."[7] Even Egypt itself is called Ta-Meri— "beloved land."[8] In an inscription regarding one of the Greek rulers of Egypt called the Ptolemies, we find a reference to "Horus, son of Isis, beloved," the word for "beloved" being meri/mery. It is unclear exactly who is being called "beloved," Horus, Isis or the Ptolemy, but it certainly could be Isis described as mery. As is also common with gods and goddesses, and especially in the Egyptian religion, gods and their epithets are frequently interchangeable with one another, representing the ultimate oneness expressed in ancient Egyptian spirituality. For example, in the chapter of the "Deification of the Members" from the Ritual (Papyrus of Ani), we find the following: "The head of this Meri-Ra is the head of Horus... The eyes of this Meri-Ra are the eyes of the Great Lady," i.e., Isis.[9] Thus, it could be said that Meri-Ra is equivalent to both Horus and Isis. Moreover, in the cartouches of several Egyptian kings we find references to "Auset Meri," or "Isis beloved,"[10] including in that of the king Thekeleth or Takeleth II, who is called "Amenmeri Auset-Meri."[11] In fact, Caesar Augustus's cartouche likewise contained the epithet


[1] Renouf, 150.

[2] Renouf, 54.

[3] Petrie, 82.

[4] Rice, 126.

[5] Tiele, OHR, 50.

[6] In the original Greek of the New Testament, of course, the name for Jesus's mother is "Maria." However, one must ask why the name was shortened in English to "Mary"—was it because, centuries into the common era, Isis remained a beloved goddess surnamed "Mery?" When was Maria first called "Mary," and by what mechanism did this change occur? Early Christians noted the similarity between Maria and "mare" or "mari," meaning "sea" in Latin, as in "stella maris." Thus, it appears that Mary was called as such fairly early, certainly long before the time Isis worship had disappeared openly. In any event, it is beyond "coincidence" that the Egyptian virgin mother of God was called Mery centuries before the Jewish virgin mother of God was likewise termed.

[7] Budge, AHE, 40.

[8] Budge, AHE, 306.

[9] Budge, PA, 95.

[10] Budge, TM, 102, et seq.

[11] Budge, AGTSER, 206.


"Ptah Auset-Meri" or "Ptah and Isis Beloved."[1] Also, Isis was apparently called "his beloved one," or Meri-f-u, the "his" referring to Horus.[2] In an article in The Contemporary Review under the entry for "Miriam"—the Jewish name for Mary—Dr. W. Robertson Smith ventures a derivation from "probably the Egyptian Meri-(t)," meaning, "beloved, a woman's name..."[3] Since the name Miriam in Hebrew is said to mean "rebellion," this last point is debatable, as is frequently the case within the field of etymology. Nevertheless, the same logical association of Meri and Mary is posited by Rev. Henry Tompkins in Journal of the Transactions of the Victoria Institute: "May not Miriam be one of the many Egyptian names beginning with Meri?" [4] In any event, the assertion that Horus's mother was called "Mery" is a sound and important one, as is the claim that, like Jesus's, his mother was a virgin. Indeed, verifying this Egyptian claim to a virgin birth, Bonwick relates: In an ancient Christian work, called the "Chronicle of Alexandria," occurs the following: "Watch how Egypt has consecrated the childbirth of a virgin, and the birth of her son, who was exposed in a crib to all the adoration of the people…"[5] The "Chronicle of Alexandria" or Chronicum Alexandrinum is also called the "Paschal Chronicle" or Chronicon Paschale, a Christian work begun in the 3rd century and finished in the 7th century.[6] In The Origin of All Religious Worship, French Abbé Charles Dupuis relates the same information: …the author of the Chronicle of Alexandria…expresses himself in the following words: "The Egyptians have consecrated up to this day the child-birth of a virgin and the nativity of her son, who is exposed in a 'crib' to the adoration of the people. King Ptolemy, having asked the reason of this custom, he was answered that it was a mystery, taught by a respectable prophet to their fathers."[7] Also verifying these assertions, Arthur D. Thomson states: The Chronicle of Alexandria has preserved the tradition of the practice of exhibiting the sun on the supposed day of his birth as a new-born infant as being held sacred in the mysteries of Egypt... "Up to the present time Egypt has held sacred the delivery of a virgin and the birth of her son, who is exposed in a cradle to the adoration of the people. King Ptolemy having asked the reason of this practice, the Egyptians told him that it was a mystery taught to their ancestors by a venerable prophet."[8] The part about Ptolemy and the mysteries is important, for a couple of reasons: [1]. It means that this custom of bringing forth the newborn sun of the virgin mother dated back at least to the time of Ptolemy Soter, three centuries prior to the Christian era; and [2]. The custom being a mystery indicates it was not widely known by the masses or exposed by initiates under the penalty of death, such that we do not find it recorded in numerous sources from the pertinent era. We do, however, possess this curious passage from the Christian text the Chronicon Paschale. Citing the Chronicum Alexandrinum (366) as his source, Thompson


[1] Budge, CH, 211.

[2] Gordon, 460.

[3] TCR, 362.

[4] JTVI, 137.

[5] Bonwick, 143.

[6] On p. 256, McCabe relates that the pertinent passage of the Chronicon Paschale may be found in Migne's Patrologia Graeca, xcii, or "PG92," col. 385.

[7] Dupuis, 237.

[8] Thomson, 481.


provides the original Greek, which does indeed say what it is alleged to relate, the pertinent word here being parthenos or "virgin."[1] The assertion that Horus's mother was a virgin can also be found in the Book of the Dead, chapter 66, in which the deceased identifies himself as Horus and says: "I know that I have been conceived by Sechit and that I am born of Neith."[2] Budge's translation of the same passage from ch. 66 is as follows: "I was conceived by the goddess Sekhet, and the goddess Neith gave birth to me. I am Horus..."[3] Sechit or Sekhet is the wife of Ptah and mother of the god Atum, representing the "second personage of the Memphis triad,"[4] one of the Egyptian "holy trinities." Identified with the goddess Hathor,[5] who in turn is identified with Isis, Sekhet represents another form of the Dawn goddess.[6] Not surprisingly, in the mythology of other cultures, such as the Indian and Greek, appears the same theme of the personified and deified Dawn giving birth to the sun—the inviolable or virgin mother. [7] In addition, in this ancient text we possess an identification of the mother of Horus as the goddess Neith, who is by all accounts a virgin mother from thousands of years prior to the Christian era. In fact, some scholarship provides for estimates of the pre-historic Neith's worship dating back some 7,000 years.[8] Regarding the important and ancient goddess Neith, from whom Horus is said to have been born, Budge states: And the priests of the goddess Net (Neith) of Sais...held the view that she was selfbegotten and self-produced, that she was the mother of the Sun-god, and at the same time a perpetual virgin-goddess.9 Moreover, in a startling series of admissions concerning Isis, sincere Christian Budge further remarks: …it is clear that early Christians bestowed some of her attributes upon the Virgin Mary. There is little doubt that in her character of the loving and protecting mother she appealed strongly to the imagination of all the Eastern peoples among whom her cult came, and that the pictures and sculptures wherein she is represented in the act of suckling her child Horus formed the foundation for the Christian figures and paintings of the Madonna and Child. Several of the incidents of the wanderings of the Virgin with the Child in Egypt as recorded in the Apocryphal Gospels reflect scenes in the life of Isis as described in the texts found on the Metternich Stele, and many of the attributes of Isis, the God-mother, the mother of Horus, and of Neith, the goddess of Sais, are identical with those of Mary the Mother of Christ. The writers of the Apocryphal Gospels intended to pay additional honour to Mary the Virgin by


[1] "Εως νυν Αιγυπτιοι θεοποιουσιν Παρθενου λοχον και ΒρεΦος εν Φατνη τιθεντες προσκυνουσιν. Και Πτολεµαιω τω Βασιλει την αιτιαν πυνθανοµενω ελεγον, οτι παραδοτον εστι µυστηριον υπο οσιου Προφητου τοις πατρασιν ηµων παραδοθεν." This citation appears to refer to a version published in the 17th century.

[2] Renouf, 128.

[3] Budge, EBD (Routledge), 228.

[4] Wilkinson, 39.

[5] Lockyer, TDA, 211.

[6] Lockyer, TDA, 31.

[7] Cf. Acharya/Murdock, SOG, 178, 180, 182, 199, 202, 205, 214, 222.

[8] Bonwick, 114.

[9] Budge, ASH, 168-169.


ascribing to her the attributes which up to the time of the advent of Christianity they had regarded as the peculiar property of Isis and Neith and other great indigenous goddesses, and if the parallels between the mythology history of Isis and Horus and the history of Mary and the Child be considered, it is difficult to see how they could possibly avoid perceiving in the teachings of Christianity reflections of the best and most spiritual doctrines of the Egyptian religion. The doctrine of parthenogenesis was well known in Egypt in connexion with the goddess Neith of Sais centuries before the birth of Christ; and the belief in the conception of Horus by Isis through the power given her by Thoth, the Intelligence or Mind of the God of the universe, and in the resurrection of the body and of everlasting life, is coeval with the beginnings of history in Egypt. We may note too in passing the probability that many of the heresies of the early Christian Church in Egypt were caused by the survival of ideas and beliefs connected with the old native gods which the converts to Christianity wished to adapt to their new creed.[1] Essentially Budge is indicating that much of the Christian religion and tradition is related to the Egyptian religion, including direct lifts of attributes from Egyptian goddesses later ascribed to the Virgin Mary. Budge states definitively that "partheno-genesis"—virgin birth— was known in Egypt centuries prior to the Christian era, specifically as concerns the goddess Neith. Of Neith, Bonwick likewise states, "Neith or Nout is neither more nor less than the Great Mother, and yet the Immaculate Virgin, or female god, from whose bosom all things has proceeded."[2] Again, Budge states, "She was the Virgin-mother of the Sun-god, and the 'Mother-goddess' of the Western Delta."[3] In his History of the Egyptian Religion, Dr. Cornelius P. Tiele (1830-1902), a professor of the History of Religions at the University of Leiden, likewise commented on the virginity of Neith: ...Neith is distinguished...by being a virgin goddess. This is expressed in the words inscribed on her temple, "My garment no one has lifted up," which is immediately followed by, "The fruit that I have borne is the sun." She is thus the virgin mother of the sun...[4] In Religious Systems of the World, Dr. Tiele also refers to "Isis the virgin."[5] As Neith gives birth to the sun god Ra (and Horus), so too does Isis give birth to the sun god Horus. In reality, Isis is a later form of Neith, the two combined as "Isis-Neith" or "Neith-Isis." Budge also states that Neith was "identified with Hathor and Isis." The goddess Neith was celebrated at the Egyptian site of Sais, where she had a temple, also dedicated to her alter-ego Isis. Budge further discloses that "at Sais there were several chambers in which the 'Mysteries' of the ancient Virgin Mother-goddess Neith were celebrated."[6] According to Plutarch (ch. 9), "In Saïs the statue of Athena, whom they believe to be Isis, bore the mysterious inscription: 'I am all that has been, and is, and shall be, and my robe no mortal has yet uncovered.'"[7] As noted, this inscription at Sais finished with the sentence, "The fruit I have produced is the sun."


[1] Budge, TGE, II, 220. (Emph. added.)

[2] Bonwick, 115.

[3] Budge, FFGAE, 59.

[4] Tiele, CHEMR, 204.

[5] RSW, 214.

[6] Budge, FFGAE, 25.

[7] Plutarch/Babbitt, 25


Regarding this inscription at Sais, Thomson remarks: Proclus, who, as well as Plutarch, has given the inscription over the temple of the Virgin of Sais, the mother of the sun, whom they both say is identical with Minerva [Athena], speaking of the seat of this goddess in the heavens, gives her two places— the one near Aries, or the equinoctial Lamb, whose form the god of light assumes in spring, and other in the celestial Virgin, or in the sign which presides at her birth (Procl. in Tim. p. 43); so that it appears that Isis, the mother of the sun, to whom the temple at Sais was dedicated, was the same that Eratosthenes places in the constellation Virgo, which opened that year. The symbolic representation of the year itself was a woman called Isis, according to Horapollo (vol. I. cap. iii.). It was in honour of this same virgin, the image of the pure and luminous substance, that the celebrated feast of lights (on which Candlemas, or the feast of Lights of the Purification, is founded) and was celebrated.[1] In his Commentary on Plato's Timaeus, Greek neoplatonist Proclus (c. 412-485 AD/CE) also discusses the city of Sais, the founding goddess of which is Neith, whom he likewise says the Egyptians equate with the Greek goddess Athena.[2] Proclus's rendition in Greek of the inscription at Sais is as follows: τα οντα και τα εσοµενα και τα γεγονοτα εγω ειµι. τον εµον χιτωνα ουδεις απεκαλυψεν. ον εγω καρπον ετεκον, ηλιος εγενετο.[3] My very literal translation of this inscription is as follows: The present and the future and the past, I am. My undergarment no one has uncovered. The fruit I begot, the sun came into being. Regarding the meaning of the statement concerning no one uncovering Neith's garment, William Coleman remarks: The point is this: Does the expression, "lifting the garment"...of Neith refer to her perpetual virginity or to her inscrutability? There is not a shadow of doubt that it refers to the former, and I am confident that every Egyptologist in the world will so decide.[4] The general interpretation of this inscription is that Neith, one of the most important deities of the Egyptian pantheon, is not only the "Alpha and Omega," so to speak, but also the inviolate begetter of the sun, the Immaculate Virgin and Great Mother. The fact of her association with the Greek goddess Athena—herself a chaste and pristine virgin, as indicated by the name of her temple at Athens, the Parthenon—confirms Neith's esteemed virginal status. Also, that the perpetual virginity of the goddess was a mystery is indicated by both Plutarch and Budge, the former of whom further identifies the virginal goddess at Sais as Isis. Among other attributes, scholars have found in Neith a representation of both the winter solstice and the summer solstice, as well as the sun itself.[5] The suggestion that Neith—who gives birth to the sun—is also the winter solstice lends credence to the assertion that Horus was born on the winter solstice, especially since in the Book of the Dead Horus says he is born of Neith, further validating the inscription at Sais.


[1] Thomson, 468-469.

[2] Proclus (Tim. 21E), 97.

[3] Proclus (Tim. 21E), 98.

[4] Coleman, 66.

[5] Bonwick, 117.


As stated, in the myths of other cultures, the "inviolable begetter of the sun" is the dawn, personified as a chaste goddess. Indeed, concerning Isis, Budge remarks, "As a nature goddess she is seen standing in the boat of the sun, and she was probably the deity of the dawn."[1] Royal astronomer Sir J. Norman Lockyer concurs. "Isis represents the Dawn and the Twighlight; she prepares the way for the Sun-god."[2] Interestingly, Budge names Neith and Isis as among the goddesses who are "names of the Sky, especially at sun-rise and sunset." (AGFSER, 2) That fact would make of Neith also a dawn goddess, and once again the identification of Neith with Isis is made. Concerning the identification of Isis with Neith, whose virginal state long prior to the Christian era has been attested by a number of sources, Bonwick likewise says of Isis: "She is seen to assume the role of Neith."[3] It is erroneously claimed that, because in one version of the myth Isis impregnates herself with Osiris's severed phallus, she cannot be considered a "virgin." In the first place, we are discussing myths, not set-in-stone biographies of real people with the relevant body parts. In addition, there is at least one other version of the myth in which Isis merely hovers above Osiris's body in order to become pregnant with Horus, as illustrated in an image from Denderah,[4] and the fact will remain that Isis was considered by many of her ardent worshippers to be chaste and virginal regardless of the manner in which she was impregnated. Furthermore, in his eye-opening comparison of Isis with the Virgin Mary, Budge states that in the Osirian myth it is by incantations, spells and words that Isis draws the seed into herself to conceive Horus.[5] Says Budge: By these spells she, assisted by her son Horus and by Anubis, the divine physician, reconstituted and revivified the body of Osiris, and thus created her son Horus, and recreated Osiris.[6] The identification of Isis with the Virgin is further made in an ancient Greek text called The Katasterismoi, or Catasterismi, allegedly written by the astronomer Eratosthenes (276-194 BCE), who was for some 50 years the head librarian of the massive Library of Alexandria.[7] Although the original of this text has been lost, an "epitome" credited to Eratosthenes in ancient times has been attributed by modern scholars to an anonymous "PseudoEratosthenes" of the 1st to 2nd centuries AD/CE. [8] In this book, the title of which translates as "Placing Among the Stars," appear discussions of the signs of the zodiac. In his essay on the zodiacal sign of Virgo (ch. 9), under the heading of "Parthenos," the author includes the goddess Isis among others such as Demeter, Atagartis and Tyche, as identified with and as the constellation of the Virgin. [9] In Star Myths of the Greeks and Romans, Dr. Theony Condos translates the pertinent passage from the chapter "Virgo" by Pseudo-Eratosthenes thus:


[1] Budge, EBD, cxiv.

[2] Lockyer, TDA, 29. 31

[3] Bonwick, 113.

[4] Budge, ER, 80.

[5] Budge, LOLM, liii.

[6] Budge, LOLM, liii.

[7] Condos, 17.

[8] Condos, 18-19.

[9] Eratosthenes, 244-245.


Hesiod in the Theogony says this figure is Dike, the daughter of Zeus and Themis… Some say it is Demeter because of the sheaf of grain she holds, others say it is Isis, others Atagartis, others Tyche…and for that reason they represent her as headless.[1] The headlessness of the goddess/constellation is interesting in consideration of the story that Isis too was at some point decapitated.[2] Thus, Isis was associated with the constellation of Virgo, the Virgin. In fact, as we know well, much of the myth surrounding Osiris, Isis and Horus is indeed astrological or astrotheological. Hence, in the myth of Isis and Horus appears the theme of the constellation of the Virgin giving birth to the baby sun at the winter solstice, long before the Christian era and undoubtedly serving as the germ for the Nativity story of Jesus Christ. Nor is Neith-Isis the only pre-Christian and non-Christian virgin mother. In Heroes and Heroines of Fiction, William Shepard Walsh states: Virgin-mothers. Long before the time of Christ, parthenogenesis, or reproduction by a virgin, was as familiar to ancient Greek, Egyptian and Oriental legend as it is to modern biology. Guatama [sic] Buddha was only one of many Oriental heroes whose mother was a virgin. The Egyptian Horus was conceived by Isis without the direct intervention of a male. Isis has been identified with the Greek Demeter, and Demeter also was a virgin, even when she bore a child, Persephone or Proserpine.[3] As we have seen, it has been contended that the Greek earth mother Demeter/Ceres, who gave birth to the season-goddess Persephone/Kore, was said to be a virgin, equated with Virgo by Pseudo-Eratosthenes, for one. Regarding the virginal status of Demeter, the authoritative Christian publication The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, in its entry on the "Virgin Birth," reports: Nowhere, perhaps, has comparative religion discovered a more impressive instance of virgin birth than in the Eleusinian Mysteries. The supreme moment of the solemn celebration of these rites was marked by the marriage of the sacred mother and the birth of the sacred child. The mother was Brimo, a maiden, a goddess of the underworld, the Thessalian Kore or Demeter, the goddess of the fruits of the cultivated earth…. Thus at the very heart and culmination of the ceremonies at this sacred shrine in ancient Greece, centuries before its appearance in the Septuagint, the dogma had been created, "A virgin shall conceive and shall bear a son.[4] Not only does this passage validate the claim that there were other, pre-Christian virgin births, but it also supports the notion that this motif of parthenogenesis constituted a mystery. Thus, this motif represented part of the famous Eleusinian Mysteries, which, we contend, is one of the reasons the virgin birth is not widely known, including in the myth of Isis, who also had her mysteries, evidently including her own perpetual virginity. Mary is Mery Redux? The similarities between the Egyptian and Christian mothers of God do not end with their names or perpetual virginity. Like the Virgin Mary turned away from an inn while with child, the pregnant Isis too is refused a "night's lodging."[5] Also like Mary, who flees with the baby


[1] Condos, 205.

[2] Griffiths, 104.

[3] Walsh, 344.

[4] Schaff-Herzog, 212.

[5] Budge, LOLM, liii-liiii.


Jesus into Egypt to escape the tyrant Herod, Isis must flee with the baby Horus to another part of Egypt to escape the tyrant Set.[1] Like Jesus, Isis is imbued with the ability to raise the dead, first resurrecting Osiris, and then, after Set as a scorpion stings the baby Horus to death, resurrecting her son as well.[2] Isis is also depicted as the healing deity, likewise saving the life of the sun god Ra, when he too was poisoned.[3] Of Isis's healing abilities, Budge remarks, "The great Codices of the Book of the Dead written under the XVIIIth dynasty prove that the blood of Isis was believed to possess great magical protective powers."[4] Thus, Isis's magical blood is like that of Christ. In addition, as Christians do with the Virgin Mary, Isis's female worshippers petitioned her to make them fertile and able to conceive. [5] Isis's titles were many, including: "Divine Lady," "Greatest of gods and goddesses," "Queen of the gods," "Lady of heaven," "Holy one of heaven," "Great goddess of the Other World," "Mother of Horus," "Mother of the God," "Lady of Life," "Lady of joy and gladness" and "Queen of heaven."[6] By the time of the common era, it would not be an exaggeration to say that Isis was the most important deity of the Roman Empire, and, as such, her influence cannot be overstated. Her millions of worshippers would no more simply forget her than would the devotees of the Virgin Mary today, without a very powerful and concerted effort to usurp her worship by setting up a competing cult, which is precisely what happened with Christianity. As Budge points out, the powerful gods of the Isian cult became widespread around the Mediterranean, including and especially in Greece, four to five centuries before the Christian era, with Isis one of the most popular gods at Rome by the first century BCE. [7] From Rome, the cult of Isis spread throughout other parts of the Roman Empire, including Europe and Libya. At this point, these many worshippers of Isis all around the vast territory of the Empire perceived reality in the following manner: ...The resurrection of Osiris taught them to believe in the resurrection of the dead, the conception and birth of Horus, preached the doctrine of life arising out of death, the triumph of Horus over Set symbolized the ultimate victory of good over evil, and the sorrows of Isis and her tender mother-love touched all hearts.[8] Concerning this "preparation for Christianity," as apologists over the centuries have disingenuously deemed it, Budge states: ...the knowledge of the ancient Egyptian religion which we now possess fully justifies the assertions that the rapid growth and progress of Christianity in Egypt were due mainly to the fact that the new religion, which was preached there by Saint Mark and his immediate followers, in all its essentials so closely resembled that which was the outcome of the worship of Osiris, Isis and Horus that popular opposition was entirely disarmed. In certain places in the south of Egypt, e.g., Philae, the worship of Osiris and Isis maintained its own until the beginning of the fifth century of our era, though this was in reality due to the support which it received from the Nubians, but, speaking generally, at this period in all other parts of Egypt Mary the Virgin and Christ had taken the places of Isis and Horus, and the "God-mother" or "mother of


[1] Budge, LOLM, liii-liiii.

[2] Budge, LOLM, liiii.

[3] Budge, LOLM, liiii.

[4] Budge, LOLM, liv.

[5] Budge, LOLM, lv.

[6] Budge, LOLM, lv-lvi.

[7] Budge, LOLM, lvii-lviii.

[8] Budge, LOLM, lviii.




the god," was no longer Isis but Mary whom the Monophysites styled θεοτοκος ["Mother of God"].[1] Again, Budge remarks on the takeover of the Egyptian religion by Christianity: And the bulk of the masses in Egypt and Nubia who professed Christianity transferred to Mary the Virgin the attributes of Isis the Everlasting Mother, and to the Babe Jesus those of Horus.[2] Once more Budge says, "When the Egyptians embraced Christianity they saw nothing strange in identifying [Isis] with the Virgin Mary, and her son Horus with the Babe Christ."[3] Of this apparent development and transparent usurpation of the Egyptian religion by Christians, Budge concludes: It has often been said and written that the cult of Isis and Horus and the worship of Mary the Virgin and the Child are one and the same thing... [4] With all these facts in mind, the insistence that Christianity sprang up in a vacuum as a unique and new "divine revelation" appears completely ludicrous and unsustainable. Nevertheless, Budge, a pious Christian, attempts to delineate the two cults, based on the allegation that Mary was not a goddess but a "real person." However, we think the apologist does protest too much and that it is obvious the Christian myth was designed to take over the Egyptian one, with the mythical Virgin Mary composed in order to overthrow the highly popular Isis. Oddly, even in face of his protests Budge continues to make these strong comparisons between Isis and Mary, even claiming that Mary too had "raised the dead and worked other miracles." Budge persists with the parallels: Osiris, more than Horus, resembles Jesus in respect of His murder by the Jews. Isis bewailed Osiris in the shrines of Egypt, as Mary bewailed her Son at Golgotha. The seven scorpion-goddesses who attended Isis seem to have their counterpart in the seven maidens who were associated with Mary in weaving the Veil of the Temple....[5] At this point, Budge tries again to differentiate the two stories, all the while assuming the Judeo-Christian tale to be "historical." In reality, the differences are slim and to be expected if Jewish priests were merely weaving Egyptian myths together with their own scriptures, which is precisely what we contend was done in the creation of the Christ and Virgin Mary characters, as well as Christianity as a whole. These peculiar attributes of Mary related by Budge that are not found in the canonical gospels, it should be noted, come from the apocryphal or "hidden" texts concerning her alleged life. As yet another example of how the Egyptian religion was copied to become "Christian revelation," Budge discusses a "little work" of magical writings called the "Lefafa Sedek," or "Bandlet of Righteousness." In the Lefafa Sedek, the Christian author claims the booklet constituted a "divine revelation" dictated to Jesus and passed along firstly to the Virgin Mary and then to the archangel Michael, who revealed its contents to the apostles. Concerning this booklet, Budge remarks, "The Lefafa Sedek is constructed on the same plan as the


[1] Budge, TGE, 220-221. (Emph. added.)

[2] Budge, OOER, 306.

[3] Budge, ASH, 181.

[4] Budge, LOLM, lix. (Emph. added.)

[5] Budge, LOLM, lix-lx.


Egyptian Book of the Dead, and is a veritable Ethiopian Book of the Dead. But the author, who was a Christian, substitutes God for Ra, Christ for Thoth, and the Virgin Mary for Isis."[1] Just like the Ritual, this Christian book was written on strips of linen and wrapped around dead bodies. Thus, we possess an apparently cut-and-dry case of Christians copying the Egyptian religion, texts and rituals, which, again, we assert was done with the gospel story itself and many other aspects of Christianity. This changeover from the Egyptian to the Christian religion occurred within the Gnostic movement as well. As Budge further states: The Egyptian Gnostics rejected many of the pagan cults of the early dynastic Egyptians, but they regarded Ra, Horus and Harpokrates [Horus the Child] as forms of their "One God of heaven," and they connected Isis with the Virgin Mary, Osiris and Serapis with Christ...[2] In fact, if we were we to include the apocryphal and Gnostic texts in our investigation, we would develop a much longer list of parallels between the Egyptian and Christian religions. This significant situation regarding the virgin mother of the god serves as a perfect example of how myths are made, as in the Ritual we possess not a story of Horus being born of the virgin mother Neith but the "deceased" (through his living representative) making statements that "I am Horus" and "I am born of Neith." Thus, when we say that Horus was born of a virgin, we are not claiming this fact is laid out in a concise story but, rather, that it was indeed a characteristic of Horus long prior to the Christian era. And again, the virgin birth motif appears to have been one of the major mysteries, not to be divulged to the "vulgar masses." Hence, it was not readily written down and made publicly available. In the end, rolling all of these qualities and myths into one, we can honestly say that the Egyptian son of God Horus was born on December 25th of the Virgin Mother Isis-Mery. From all the evidence so far presented, it may further be truthfully asserted that this same statement regarding Jesus and Mary represents a mythical construct based in large part on the Egyptian religion.


[1] Budge, AS, 195-196.

[2] Budge, AS, 203.



Before we move on I just want to cover a few more Virgin Birth Myths that I feel are important to cover before we move on

For starters Perseus a figure who you can see from the Raglan Hero Scale shares many parallels with Christ one of the most interesting and notable parallels between these 2 characters however is Perseus being born of Danae a Chaste Virgin locked in a tower and inaccesable to any man when Jupiter/Jove impregnated her through a "Golden shower" of coins so to speak...


Danaë - Wikipedia



Danaë - Wikipedia



Danaë - Wikipedia


ArtStation - Danae and the Shower of Gold, Grace Palmer


Perseus - Wikipedia




And Io (Isis) Virgin mother of Epaphus (Apis) who was impregnated merely through Zeus touching her forhead with his hand:




Pin on Egyptian Mythology




Enter Io, a young woman transformed into a cow. [564-65]…
Do you hear my voice, the voice of the cow-horned girl? [601]…
“You lucky, lucky girl, why stay a virgin, when you have the chance to make the greatest marriage? Zeus is inflamed by the arrow of desire to join with you in love. Don’t reject his bed, child, but go out to Lerna’s deep meadow and your father’s herds, so the eye of Zeus may gain relief from longing.” [664-69]… 
There’s a city, Canopus, at the edge of the land,
by the Nile’s mouth, where the river drops its silt.
There Zeus will bring you to your senses, with
a gentle touch, a hand you need not fear.
Your son, dark Epaphus, born from that touch
and named for it, will harvest all the land
irrigated by the broadly flowing Nile. [850-56]… 

Never, never, long-lived Fates,
may you see me sharing the bed of Zeus.
No marriage with one of the heavenly sort for me.
I’m frightened when I see Io,
a virgin who shunned a husband,
destroyed by Hera’s hard traveling. [901-06]



Aeschylus, Prometheus Bound (5th cen. BCE) 



As we have already seen and shall continue to see Virgin Mothers are a very common motif in the Pagan world. Regardless of Marital status, amount of children and matter of impregnation these goddesses I have went through so far as well as many others we shall get into later retained there virginity due to them being astrotheological motifs symbolizing  for Virgo the "Virgin" in the Zodiac. and because of this reasons can be concidered "Virgin Mothers" isuch examples i shall cover more later and some I've already covered include but are not limited to:


Rhea Sylvia Virgin Mother of Romulus and Remus

Alcmene Virgin Mother of Herakles/Hercules

Nut/Neith Virgin Mother of Ra, Osiris, Set, Horus The Elder, Isis, Nepthys, Apap, Sobek and Tutu

Isis-Meri Virgin Mother of Osiris-Aion and Horus

Mut Virgin mother of Khonsu and the entire Marvel Universe

Hathor Virgin mother of Osiris and Apis (Serapis) and Horus

Danae Virgin mother of Perseus 

Hera/Juno Virgin Mother of Enyo, Ares/Mars, Alcides, Heaphestus/Vulcan and Typhon

Semele, Demeter/Ceres and Persephone/Kore Virgin Mothers of Dionysus/Bacchus

Io Virgin Mother of Epaphus

Nephthys Virgin Mother of Anubis or Anup The Baptizer

Inanna/Ishtar Virgin Mother of Tammuz/Dumuzid

Myrrah/Maia Virgin Mother of Hermes/Mercury, Adonis/Tammuz, and Dionysus/Bacchus 

Maya Royal Virgin Queen of Heaven Mother of Buddha

Aditi Virgin Mother of Vishnu and Mitra

Devaki Virgin mother of Krishna

Cybele/Nana Virgin Mother of Attis

Anahita Virgin Mother of Mithras

Athena/Minerva Virgin Mother of Ericthonius and Apollo/Dionysus

Aphrodite/Venus Virgin Mother of Eros/Cupid, Phobos, Deimos, Hermaphrodite, Harmonia, Anneus and Julius Caesar

(Et Tu Judas/Brutus? than fall Caesar!)

Artemis/Diana Virgin mother of Aphrodite/Venus as per Cicero On The Nature Of The Gods Book III

Gaia (Mother Earth) Virgin Mother of Uranus, Pontus, The Nymphs, The 12 Titans, Scorpio and Mithras

Olympias Virgin Mother of Alexander The Great 



Lastly before we move on here is an intersting debate between a Gospel Apologist by the name of "Windword" and a "Demon" named 


posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 04:27 PM
reply to post by adjensen


1) I asked you for an ancient Egyptian source that calls Isis the "Great Virgin".
2) I asked you how learning the mysteries of the universe means having sex.

Here ya go. According to the Theological Dictionary of the Old Testament, at the Abydos Temple of Seti, Isis claims that she is "The Great Virgin" Ptolemaic text require that women acting, for ritual purposes, on behalf of Hathor, Isis or Nephthys must be virgins.


posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 05:35 PM

reply to post by Eniii

What is this guy's PhD in? 'Cause it sure isn't history, lol.

There is a reason that the existence of a person in the First Century named Jesus who began a new sect of Judaism, call Christianity, is almost universally accepted --and that is because there is something called historical evidence.

You can start with the Surviving Documents from the Council of Nicaea and work your way back from there.

ETA: Oh, here he is: Black Liberation Network

Call me old fashioned, but I prefer my history from historians, not counselors.

ETA2: Okay, I can get past him not knowing how to pronounce Ptolomy and for not knowing what the Greek word "Christus" means, but the "Son/Sun" argument? THE BIBLE WASN'T WRITTEN IN ENGLISH, YOU IDIOT!!!


edit on 24-2-2014 by adjensen because: (no reason given)

His PhD is most likely a diploma mill bought off the internet for $39.95


posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 08:08 PM


At the 1hr 20min mark this guy says something that I think is actually criminal?

For the next 3 minutes he talks about how he is not condoning violence but says remove the heads of your enemies, he then says he was robbed and some people he knows took care of the guy and removed his hands!!

So he is aware of the people that did this, did this violent act get reported to the police?

To be honest the reason I was watching this video was because of the one the OP posted and I found this guy to be fairly interesting in his views, its always interesting to see peoples points of view. However I think he steps in to a dangerous place at the 1hr 20min mark and condones violence in a scary way.

edit on 26-2-2014 by gazzerman because: (no reason given)


posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 10:10 PM
reply to post by windword

Thanks for finding that. I guess that we can conclude that some ancient Egyptians thought that Isis was a virgin, and some thought that she had sexual intercourse with Osiris' corpse (I presume that we can agree that Isis did not exist and did not actually declare herself "the Great Virgin".)

But, once again, I stand by my claim that Isis' virginity is of no consequence for Egyptian theology, while Mary's virginity is significant for Christianity, so it is highly unlikely that the writers of the Gospel simply "copied" any claims of Isis' virginity and applied them to Mary -- there is no evidence that they even would have known about such, and absolutely no reason for them to have done so.


posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 10:14 PM
reply to post by adjensen

I am not proclaiming that Mary is based on Isis.

but it is important to note that the story of Jesus had to have the "chops" to pass muster among the people who were being targeted for conversion (the intended audience of the marketing pamphlets that became our bible). To be of a virgin birth is just another checkmark in legitimizing Jesus as a god on earth. Akin to the symbolic importance of riding into jerusalem via the east gate.


posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 10:57 PM
reply to post by adjensen


Thanks for finding that. I guess that we can conclude that some ancient Egyptians thought that Isis was a virgin, and some thought that she had sexual intercourse with Osiris' corpse.

Your welcome. 

No. I don't agree with that. I think it was common knowledge and widely accepted that Isis was a virgin goddess. There is no ancient Egyptian text, that I know of, nor pictorial inscription of of Isis, the woman, having sex with a contrived phallus. The conception of Horus took place with Isis hovering over Osiris as a bird, a hawk. There was no sexual intercourse, between a man and woman, or a man and a bird, in the conception of Horus. It was magic, magic that was orchestrated and overseen by the God Thoth.

(I presume that we can agree that Isis did not exist and did not actually declare herself "the Great Virgin".)

I don't know. The character of Isis may have been based off a real prediluvia queen. But the essence of the mother goddess, the feminine principle of the holy trinity is a spiritual truth. That essence has never incarnated in one person who lived and walked on earth, among the living, just as the essence of "God" never incarnated into one flesh and blood body and lived and died on earth, in my opinion.

But, once again, I stand by my claim that Isis' virginity is of no consequence for Egyptian theology, while Mary's virginity is significant for Christianity, so it is highly unlikely that the writers of the Gospel simply "copied" any claims of Isis' virginity and applied them to Mary -- there is no evidence that they even would have known about such, and absolutely no reason for them to have done so.

Why wouldn't the writers of the Gospel know about Egyptian mythology? Didn't the holy family supposedly "hide out" in Egypt?

The similarities between the Osiris, Horus Isis mythology and the Christian theme of Jesus and the issues surrounding his virgin birth can't be dismissed.

"The miraculous birth of Jesus could be viewed as analogous to that of Horus, whom Isis conceived posthumously from Osiris, and Mary was closely connected with Isis by many other shared characteristics."

- Dr. Erik Hornung, The Secret Lore of Egypt, 75

"The Egyptian goddess who was equally ‘the Great Virgin’ (hwnt) and ‘Mother of the God’ was the object of the very same praise bestowed upon her successor [Mary, Virgin Mother of Jesus]."

- Dr. R.E. Witt, Isis in the Ancient World, 273

"...the resemblances between Isis and the Virgin Mary are far too close and numerous to be accidental. There can, in fact, be no question that the Isiac cult was a profound influence on other religions, not least Christianity ... [Isis] was the sacred embodiment of motherhood, yet was known as the Great Virgin, an apparent contradiction that will be familiar to Christians."

- Dr. James Curl, The Egyptian Revival, 12-13


posted on Feb, 26 2014 @ 11:23 PM
reply to post by windword

There is no ancient Egyptian text, that I know of, nor pictorial inscription of of Isis, the woman, having sex with a contrived phallus.

Oh, come on. I cited the Egyptian text, way back when, that says that Isis collected the pieces of Osiris, reassembled him, and copulated with the corpse to produce Horus. In the picture that I posted, it has Isis, in the form of a bird, hovering over the phallus of Osiris, clearly copulating with him, in order to produce Horus.

Give it a rest. Some, probably not all Egyptians believed that Iris had sex with Osiris. If you continue in your belligerent argument against that position, I'm done with this thread.


posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 12:31 AM
So I guess nobody cares about my post above? And this guys murderous actions?


posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 02:26 AM
There are just do many blatant untruths in this video. At just past 34 minutes, he says “There was one God.  ‘He ain’t got no son’....That was Arius’ argument.”

Yet nearly every letter from Arias mentions "He begat a Son"....

I just cannot overlook that this man preaches based upon human emotion, and appeals to pride....which blinds people to truth. The above example is small, but is so easily proven as an untruth -


posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 09:19 AM
reply to post by gazzerman

YouTube is full of nuts like this guy… if you think that there is something criminal being attested to in the video, report it to YouTube.

Tragically, as noted in the screenshot, in the case of VonHelton videos, there is no "This video is an insult to intelligence" option, lol.


posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 09:44 AM
reply to post by gazzerman

Not really.

If someone robs me, there'll be a funeral procession in my town too.


posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 11:33 AM
reply to post by adjensen

Give it a rest. Some, probably not all Egyptians believed that Iris had sex with Osiris. If you continue in your belligerent argument against that position, I'm done with this thread.

Can you admit that "Some, probably not all" Christians believed that Mary had sex to conceive Jesus?

I can take no responsibility for your perception of me, as I harbor no hostility or aggression toward you or your position, and I'm truly sorry if I gave you that impression. I'm merely arguing against your evidence, by tediously presenting my own. If you feel so intimated by this discussion, that you feel you need to leave the thread, I'll understand. But I won't acquiesce to a concept that I believe to be false.

I might also remind you, that YOU are the one who first brought up Horus and the claim the Isis was not a virgin. Had you not made that assertion, in this POST in this thread, I would not have challenged you.

There is no ancient Egyptian text, that I know of, nor pictorial inscription of of Isis, the woman, having sex with a contrived phallus.

Oh, come on. I cited the Egyptian text, way back when, that says that Isis collected the pieces of Osiris, reassembled him, and copulated with the corpse to produce Horus. In the picture that I posted, it has Isis, in the form of a bird, hovering over the phallus of Osiris, clearly copulating with him, in order to produce Horus.

That is not how the story goes, according to the Pyramid Texts.

As for your picture, here is one of Isis, in the form of a bird, having sex with Osiris.
                 Facsimile n.1 | Mormonizzando (Chiesa di Gesù Cristo dei Santi degli Ultimi  Giorni)            

That picture/relief is pretty damaged, and I can see how you might think that looks like a phallus. Here's a better example the image of the Conception of Horus that archaeologists/scholars have presented.
Timewalkers Among us! – OSIRIS ARISING

The Procreation of Horus, son of Isis.

Details of the engagement are wanting, but the Pyramid Texts state that the body of Osiris was hurled to the ground by Set at a place called Netat, which seems to have been near Abydos.

1 The news of the death of Osiris was brought to Isis, and she at once set out to find his body. All legends agree in saying that she took the form of a bird, and that she flew about unceasingly, going hither and thither, and uttering wailing cries of grief. At length she found the body, and with a piercing cry she alighted on the ground. The Pyramid Texts say that Nephthys was with her that "Isis came, Nephthys came, the one on the right side, the other on the left side, one in the form of a Hat bird, the other in the form of a Tchert bird, and they found Osiris thrown on the ground in Netat by

p. l

his brother Set." The late form of the legend goes on to say that Isis fanned the body with her feathers, and produced air, and that at length she caused the inert members of Osiris to move, and drew from him his essence, wherefrom she produced her child Horus.

There was no dismemberment, there was no regathering and reassembling of the body, there was no fake phallus. There is no coitus, no copulation. The essence of Osiris, through Thoth's magic, entered Isis to be reborn as Horus. Horus was not a genetic child produced through chromasonal donation.

If you can provide the ancient Egyptian text of Isis reassembling Osiris's body and created a prosthetic phallus, in order to conceive, I would be happy to admit that there are at least two ancient Egyptian versions. But as it is, the story just isn't in any of the Pyramid Texts, that I can find. And, I have looked! It appears, to me anyway, that this story is later oral adaptation to the Osiris/Isis/Horus saga.

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posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 12:47 PM
reply to post by windword

Can you admit that "Some, probably not all" Christians believed that Mary had sex to conceive Jesus?

People believe all sorts of things, correct or not. Saying that Mary had sex with a man to conceive Jesus would be heretical, and an indication that the person does not hold Christian beliefs. So the answer is "no", Christians did not believe that Jesus was just a man, because that belief would make them something other than a Christian.

That picture/relief is pretty damaged, and I can see how you might think that looks like a phallus.

For at least the third time, it is not my opinion, it is the stated opinion of Egyptologists -- the picture came from a book, Daily Life of the Egyptian Gods, by Dimitri Meeks and Christine Favard-Meeks. Meeks was a research director for the French National Centre for Scientific Research, with a specialization in Egyptology.

From your quoted text:

at length she caused the inert members of Osiris to move, and drew from him his essence, wherefrom she produced her child Horus

That sure sounds like sex to me.

There was no dismemberment, there was no regathering and reassembling of the body, there was no fake phallus.

Perhaps in that version, though it doesn't say that there was none, it just doesn't say that there was. But it says different things in different legends:

One night, whilst Mighty Isis slept, Seth happened upon the Dead King. In a fury, He tore the body of Osiris into fourteen pieces and scattered them throughout Egypt to ensure they would not all be found.

When Isis found the empty coffin, Her cries reached unto the heavens; even unto the ears of Her beloved Nephthys. She came to Isis' side, and the two sisters searched the land for the scattered body of Osiris. For many sad years the Daughters of Nuit wandered through Egypt. Everywhere They found a fragment They built a shrine. At last, all the pieces were gathered; with the exception of the God's phallus. Isis reassembled Osiris' body, and fashioned a phallus of pure gold to replace the lost member. She wrapped the body in cloth and perfumed it with many scents. Thus was Osiris whole again, and mummification was created.

Isis then transformed Herself into the form of a swallow, and with Her wings She fanned the Breath of Life into Her husband. The Lord of Eternity arose, restored to life at last. But it was only to last for the length of one night, so that He and Isis could conceive their Divine Son Horus. (Source)

I see that version of the conception of Horus far more often than the one you keep citing, so I don't know how you manage to keep overlooking it.


posted on Feb, 27 2014 @ 01:40 PM
reply to post by adjensen

I have proven, with irrefutable evidence, time and time again, that Isis was "The Great Virgin" by proclamation. It's not a matter of opinion.

An unsubstantiated narrative isn't going to cut it. Again, I ask you cite the authentic ancient Egyptian texts that corresponds to the narrative in the link you have cited. I am aware of the oral narrative of the myth of the "golden phallus", or a "wooden phallus", but I can't find any authentic ancient Egyptian text or hieroglyphs that support that version of the conception of Horus.

My citations are from translations and commentaries on passages from Hymn to Osiris taken from The Egyptian Book of the Dead , as well as the translations of the glyphs from and pictures from the Temple of Seti and Pyramid texts.

Thy sister protected thee, and she drove away thy foes, 14. and she warded off from thee evil hap, and uttered the words of power with all the skill of her mouth; her tongue was trained, and she committed no fault of utterance, and she made [her decree and [her words to have effect, Isis, the mighty one, the avenger of her brother. She sought thee without weariness, 15. she went round about through this land in sorrow, and she set not to the ground her foot until she had found thee. She made light with her feathers, she made air to come into being with her wings, and she uttered cries of lamentation at the bier of her brother. 16. She stirred up from his state of inactivity him whose heart was still (i.e., Osiris), she drew from him his seed, she made an heir, she suckled the babe in solitariness, and the place wherein she reared him is unknown, and his hand is mighty within the house 17. of Seb.
The Hymn to Osirus
Read more: www.touregypt.net...

There is nothing in this text to suggest that Isis reassembled a disembodied Osiris, let alone needed a prosthetic phallus to get the job done!

Although, I don't think using a "dildo" qualifies as actual sexual intercourse, I'll just close by saying, unless you can provide authentic ancient Egyptian textual and/or pictorial evidence of Isis reassembling the body of Osiris and fashioning and utilizing a fake phallus, in order to conceive Horus, and not just some guy who says so, I'll consider this discussion over, and the fact of the tradition of Isis, "The Great Virgin" stands.




WindWord did an excellent defence against the "Pagan" adjensen however it is important to remember we are dealing with myths not actual people and thus regardless of any sex Isis engaged in from a mythological perspective she retained her Virginity inspite of the intercourse with the golden phallus and any of supposed images/depictions of her hovering over Osiris's Erect Penis.


Also has Adjensen not read from Our Church Pastors and defenders of the faith Dimitri and Christine Meeks? the very same source he cites for the Golden Phallus intercourse?


“The marriage of Isis and Osiris was a very brief one, so brief, indeed, that they were not able to consummate their union while Osiris was alive. "Come to me, far face who passed beyond without my having seen him," Isis says after the death of her husband, leading one to suppose that he was murdered before their wedding night.” 


Dr. Dimitri Meeks and Dr. Christine Favard-Meeks , Daily Life of the Egyptian Gods (69)



*Sigh the "Obstinancy" and "Satanism" never end do they?😔🤣




Born on December 25th


"As the annual rebirth of the sun's light, the winter solstice was important in most parts of the world. In fact, the Romans already had an ancient winter festival whose seven days bracketed the solstice.... Choosing the birth of Christ as December 25 successfully integrated long-standing popular traditions with the imagery of a new religion, and the theme of renewal is still part of Christmas."


Dr. Edwin C. Krupp, Echoes of the Ancient Skies (81)


"The well-known solar feast…of Natalis Invicti, celebrated on 25 December, has a strong claim on the responsibility for our December date [for Christ's Nativity]."


Catholic Encyclopedia,


"Christmas" "An early Christian work, the 'Paschal Chronicle' (Migne ed. xcii, col. 385), tells us that every year the temples of Horus presented to worshipers, in mid-winter (or about December 25th), a scenic model of the birth of Horus. He was represented as a babe born in a stable, his mother Isis standing by. Just in the same way is the birth of Christ dramatized today in every Roman Catholic church in the world on December 25th. The Roman writer Macrobius makes the same statement about the representation of the birth of Horus in the temples…and adds that the young god was a symbol of the rebirth of the sun at that date. The fact is, at all events, beyond question. We are brought to the very threshold of Christianity. The whole world by the year 1 A.D. was familiar with the Egyptian statues or pictures of Isis with the divine babe Horus in her arms."


Joseph McCabe, The Story of Religious Controversy (169)



Although many people remain unaware of the real meaning behind "Christmas," one of the better known correspondences between pre-Christian religion and Christianity has been the celebration of the god's birth on the 25th of December. Nevertheless, it has been argued that this comparison is erroneous because Jesus Christ was not born on December 25th, an assertion in itself that would come as a surprise to many, since up until just a few years ago only a miniscule percentage of people knew such a fact. In any event, this argument constitutes a logical fallacy, because over the centuries since the holiday was implemented by Christian authorities, hundreds of millions of people have celebrated Jesus's birthday on December 25th, or Christmas, so named after Christ. Moreover, hundreds of millions continue to celebrate the 25th of December as the birth of Jesus Christ, completely oblivious to the notion that this date does not represent the "real" birthday of the Jewish son of God.[1] In actuality, it would be highly refreshing for the facts regarding the true meaning of Christmas to be known around the world: To wit, "Christmas"—or the winter solstice— represents the birth of the sun god dating back millennia. Concerning the origins of this solar holiday vis-à-vis Christianity, the authoritative Catholic Encyclopedia states: The earliest rapprochement of the births of Christ and the sun is in [the writings of Church father] Cyprian [200-258]…"O, how wonderfully acted Providence that on that day on which that Sun was born…Christ should be born."


[1] In 2007, the U.S. House of Representatives passed HR 847, officially declaring December 25th to be the birthday of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ: "Whereas on December 25 of each calendar year, American Christians observe Christmas, the holiday celebrating the birth of their savior, Jesus Christ…"



In the fourth century, Chrysostom…says:… "But Our Lord, too, is born in the month of December…the eight before the calends of January [25 December]…, But they call it the 'Birthday of the Unconquered'. Who indeed is so unconquered as Our Lord…? Or, if they say that it is the birthday of the Sun, He is the Sun of Justice."[1] As we can see from these revealing remarks, the birth of Christ at the winter solstice has been asserted since as early as the 3rd century. Moreover, the reason for this birthdate is clearly given: This date represents "the birthday of the Sun!" Regarding Christ's birth and the establishment of Christmas, Christian apologist Thomas Thorburn relates: The earliest church commemorated it at various times from September to March, until in 354 A.D. Pope Julius I assimilated the festival with that of the birth of Mithra (December 25), in order to facilitate the more complete Christianisation of the empire.[2] Thus, Christ's birth at the winter solstice was not formalized until the fourth century—and this fact demonstrates a deliberate contrivance by Christian officials to usurp other religions, as we contend the entire Christian religion was specifically created to do. Prior to its celebration as the birthday of Jesus Christ, the 25th of December/winter solstice was claimed as the birthday for a number of other gods and godmen, including the PersoRoman god Mithra and the Greek god Dionysus.[3] So too, apparently, do we find this annual celebration in Egypt concerning the sun god, which represents the "birth" of the "new sun" after the "old sun" "dies" around December 21st (in the northern hemisphere), lying in his "tomb" or "cave" for three days and on December 25th being "born again." There appears to be frequent confusion regarding the dates of December 21st, 22nd and 25th . The fact is that all of them represent the time of the winter solstice, which begins at midnight on the 21st—equivalent to the morning of the 22nd—and ends at midnight on the 24th, which is the morning of December 25th. To summarize, in the solar myth the "death" of the "old sun" occurs as the days decrease in length towards the winter solstice, the word "solstice" meaning "sun stands still," as for three days the sun appears not to be moving south or north. Hence, it was considered "dead" and did not "return to life" until three days later, at midnight on December 24th, when it began its northerly journey again. Therefore, the ancients said the sun was born on December 25th . In this regard, it has been the frequent contention of writers since antiquity that the Egyptians likewise celebrated the birth of the sun at the winter solstice, a logical conclusion, considering the reverence with which the sun was held in Egypt. Concerning this cycle in Egypt, in "Isis and Osiris" (ch. 65), Plutarch remarked that Horus—or "Harpocrates," his Greek name—was "born about the winter solstice, unfinished and infant-like..."[4] A couple of centuries after Plutarch, in his Saturnalia (I, XVIII:10), ancient Latin writer of the fourth century Macrobius also reported on this annual Egyptian "Christmas" celebration: …at the winter solstice the sun would seem to be a little child, like that which the Egyptians bring forth from a shrine on an appointed day, since the day is then at its shortest and the god is accordingly shown as a tiny infant.[5]


[1] CE, "Christmas."

[2] Thorburn, 33.

[3] Thomson, 481.

[4] King, 56; cf. Babbitt, 153.

[5] Macrobius/Davies, 129. The original Latin of this paragraph in Macrobius is: "…ut parvulus videatur hiemali solstitio, qualem Aegyptii proferunt ex adyto die certa, quod tunc brevissimo die veluti parvus et infans videatur…"





As to the antiquity of the Egyptian winter-solstice, solar-birth drama depicted by Plutarch and Macrobius, Professor Orlando P. Schmidt makes some interesting claims regarding the Egyptian king Amenemhet or Amenemhat I (c. 1991/1985-c. 1962/1956 BCE), called in Greek "Amenemes" or "Ammenemes," founder of the 12th dynasty: Now, as the sun of the Sothiac year reached the winter solstice in the seventeenth year of the reign of King Amenemes I, he assumed the title of Nem-mestu, meaning "Re-born," in commemoration of his birth as Harpokrates.[1] Thus, according to Schmidt the birth of Harpocrates at the winter solstice apparently dates back to almost 2,000 years prior to the Christian era, a tradition evidently verified by Plutarch. This epithet "Nem-mestu" is the king's "Horus name" and means "repeater of births," "repetition of births" or "reborn." Regarding this title, Budge says: ..."nem mestu," i.e., "repeater of births," the allusion being to the idea that the king was like the Sun-god Re who was reborn daily; this title became a great favorite with the kings of the XIIth Dynasty.[2] Budge thus verifies that this particular Horus name was indeed popular in the dynasty in question. Intriguingly, according to Budge the Egyptian word for winter solstice is nen, which would make a Horus name of "Nen-mestu" equivalent to "born of the winter solstice." Also according to Budge, citing German Egyptologist Professor Heinrich Brugsch, the hieroglyphic for the winter solstice reveals two deities holding the sun with its rays extending down over an ankh,[3] the symbol of life. If these two deities surrounding the sun being given life are indeed Osiris and Isis, as they appear to be, this hieroglyph would represent a clear indication that their child, Horus, was in fact born at the winter solstice. In any case, this Horus name "repeaters of births" as a reflection of the sun god's birth, whether daily, annually or both, dates back thousands of years in Egypt, and the significance of the winter solstice in Egypt, as well as its perception as the birth of the sun god, seems evident. In the Egyptian language, Harpocrates is "Her-pa-chruti" or "Heru-pa-Chrat," "the morning sun."[4] On the subject of Plutarch and Harpocrates, Budge remarks: The curious legend which Plutarch relates concerning Harpocrates and the cause of his lameness is probably based upon the passage in the history of Osiris and Isis given in a hymn to Osiris of the XVIIIth Dynasty.[5] Budge never seems to return to this "curious legend," apparently coming from chapter 19 of Plutarch, which omits the pertinent part about Harpocrates representing the weak or "lame" sun of the winter solstice, as in chapter 65. Concerning the Osirian myth presented in Plutarch, in Egyptian Ideas of the Future, Budge remarks: When we examine this story by the light of the results of hieroglyphic decipherment, we find that a large portion of it is substantiated by Egyptian texts...6 Budge proceeds to name many of the most significant details from Plutarch as having been verified by hieroglyphics, including texts, inscriptions, papyri, etc. The passage from


[1] Schmidt, 19.

[2] Budge, EUGPB, 190.

[3] Budge, AEHD, 351.

[4] Budge, TM, 271-272.

[5] Budge, EBD, cvi.

[6] Budge, EITFL, 35.




Plutarch quoted here by Budge is also from chapter 19 and, again, although mentioning the birth of Harpocrates, lacks the pertinent part about the winter solstice found in chapter 65. In neither book, in fact, does Budge describe the assertion in chapter 65. Perhaps as a professed Christian, Budge did not wish to reproduce these significant remarks concerning the "Christmas" birth of the Egyptian sun god. From comments by various writers of the time, it appears there was indeed a debate as to whether or not to accept the "opinions of the Greek" with regard to Harpocrates's nature as the sun born at the winter solstice. One must therefore ask whether or not this debate about the "correctness" of the ancient Greeks in their assertions regarding this figure—a debate continued by apologists today—has been based on scientific reasoning or religious prejudice, representing an intentional suppression and censorship of pertinent data. And, if the bulk of Plutarch's summary of the myth of Osiris, Isis and Horus is sustainable through Egyptian writings, as Budge himself states, can we not assume that this winter-solstice part would be reliable as well? If Horus was not born at the winter solstice, why does Plutarch state that he was, in his form as Harpocrates or Horus the Child? Why does Macrobius record an Egyptian festival of apparent antiquity that celebrated the birth of the baby sun at the winter solstice? Would the Egyptians—who were so keenly aware of astronomy, solar mythology and astrotheology—truly be completely oblivious to, or deliberately unaffected by, the revered status of the sun at the winter solstice? Certainly the Egyptians were highly conscious of the all-important solstices—as demonstrated abundantly by the alignments of their monuments—could they possibly fail to integrate them into their solar religion? Indeed, according to Budge the solstices were personified as gods. In fact, Budge claims that the personification of the winter solstice is the god "Ap-uat,"[1] while Renouf says Apuat is "identical with Osiris."[2] Thus, Osiris would represent the winter solstice, making this time of year highly significant to the Egyptians. Furthermore, it is agreed that in Egypt "the summer solstice was paramount, for it heralded the rise of the Nile."[3] As Herodotus states, the Nile began to overflow around the summer solstice—specifically named as such by Herodotus (1:19). The Greek historian further remarks that the river continues to rise for about 100 days, at which point it levels off and then starts to drop again, remaining low throughout winter.[4] This life-giving time of year was so important to the Egyptians that at periods over the millennia they opened the new year with the summer inundation of the Nile. During other periods, apparently, the year began at the winter solstice, which would be indicative that such a time was considered the "birth of the sun," as in so many other cultures. In Horae Aegyptiacae: Or, the Chronology of Ancient Egypt, Discovered from Astronomical and Hieroglyphic Records Upon Its Monuments, Egyptologist and professor of Archaeology Dr. Reginald Stuart Poole, another Keeper at the British Museum, states: "The Season of the Waters," in the ancient nomenclature, plainly shows that the Tropical Year to which that nomenclature was originally applied commenced at the winter solstice, and not at, nor near, either of the equinoxes, or the summer solstice... Thus we find that the true period of the commencement of "the Season of the Inundation" was one month before the autumnal equinox; and the end, at the winter


[1] Budge, TGE, 264.

[2] Renouf, 99.

[3] Lockyer, TDA, 57.

[4] Herodotus, 92-93




solstice; and, consequently, that the Tropical Year anciently in use among the Egyptians commenced at the winter solstice, when all things in Egypt begin anew.[1] Obviously, the Egyptians were well aware of the winter solstice, which they evidently identified with Osiris and other gods at some point and which during certain eras or in various places opened with Egyptian year. Concerning these important times of the year, astronomer Sir Lockyer remarks: Did the ancients know anything about these solstices and these equinoxes? That is one of the questions which we have to discuss. Dealing with the monumental evidence in Egypt alone, the answer is absolutely overwhelming.[2] Lockyer next describes a number of astronomical alignments of various monuments and buildings in Egypt, beginning with the temple enclosure at Karnak. Calling the temple of Amen-Ra at Karnak the "finest Egyptian solar temple" and "the most majestic ruin in the world,"[3] Lockyer dated its foundation to 3700 BCE, using astronomical measurements.[4] Encompassing twice the area covered by St. Peter's in Rome, the complex comprised "two temples in the same line back to back, the chief one facing the sunset at the summer solstice, the other probably the sunrise at the winter solstice."[5] Concerning the smaller temple, Lockyer states: The amplitude of the point to which the axis of the small temple points is 26º S. of E., exactly the position of sunrise at the winter solstice. There is more evidence of this kind....[6] Lockyer then discusses the colossal statues of Amenhetep III on the plain of Thebes, which were oriented to watch "for the rising of the sun at the winter solstice."[7] Astronomer Dr. Edwin C. Krupp likewise comments on the winter-solstice alignment of Egyptian buildings: Winter solstice sunrise alignment was also found at the solar sanctuary in Hatshepsut's mortuary temple at Deir el-Bahri, and these sanctuaries were linked with the Egyptian beliefs about the passage of Re through the netherworld and the transformation of the soul of the deceased pharaoh.[8] The Temple of Amun-Ra at Abu Simbel, built by Ramses II, ranks as another edifice aligned with sunrise at the winter solstice.[9] In the Encyclopedia of the Archaeology of Ancient Egypt ("EAAE") appears a discussion of the small temple at Aghurmi in the Siwa Oasis. This temple possesses a window in the west wall of the sanctuary that connects with an opposite window opposite, producing a lightshaft which illuminates the "god's barge naos in the center of the sanctuary." EAAE then states:

[1] Poole, 4-5.

[2] Lockyer, Nature, 10.

[3] Lockyer, TDA, 99.

[4] Lockyer, TDA, 119.

[5] Lockyer, TDA, 102.

[6] Lockyer, Nature, 57.

[7] Lockyer, Nature, 57; TDA, 79.

[8] Krupp, xii.

[9] Clark, 147, 193.





The fact that Onuris and Tefnut are represented right next to this window and the mythology connected with these two gods suggest that occurrence of this event to have coincided with the winter solstice.[1] Hence, we find multiple astronomical alignments proving that the ancient Egyptians highly valued the winter solstice. Moreover, a number of ancient Egyptian water clocks, such as at Karnak, were designed to measure the winter and summer solstices.[2] Indeed, that the Egyptians were keen measurers of time may be seen in an inscription from the tomb of the Karnak clock's creator, a "certain official" named Amenemhet who was buried "near the top of the hill of Sheikh Abd el-Gurna in Western Thebes." This very ancient inscription describes the measurements of the "longest night of wintertime" and the "shortest night of summertime," the former of which, of course, would be the winter solstice and the latter, the summer. This inscription also refers to Egyptian sacred literature as "the books of the divine word,"[3] demonstrating the reverence with which these texts were held, no less than the holy books of today. The official in question dedicated his clock to Amenhotep I, who reigned in the 18th Dynasty, during the 16th century BCE. In Ancient Egyptian Science, professor of Historical Studies Dr. Marshall Clagett (1916- 2005) depicts another ancient Egyptian clock used to measure the equinoxes and solstices: The first (and indeed only) Egyptian technical description of an ancient Egyptian shadow clock is found in an inscription in the cenotaph of Seti I (ca. 1306-1290 [BCE])...[4] Dr. Clagett also describes an Egyptian sundial from Luxor that apparently dates to the "Greco-Roman period" and that possesses marks to measure, among other things, the winter solstice.[5] As another example of Egyptian astronomical knowledge and the particular importance of the winter solstice, in 46 BCE famed Alexandria astronomer Sosigenes created a new solar calendar for Julius Caesar, called the Julian Calendar: "The new system, depending wholly on the sun, would naturally have commenced with the winter solstice,"6 called bruma in Latin, one source of the Roman celebration the Brumalia.[7] In The Sacred Tradition in Ancient Egypt, Rosemary Clark describes another festival that purportedly took place on the winter solstice: As the winter solstice denotes the literal decline of solar light, festivals celebrated at this time are connected with the renewal of the life force. One of these festivals was the annual raising of the Djed pillar of Asar [Osiris] at his great temple at Busiris in Lower Egypt. This was a symbolic restoration of the Neter's [God's] life, an event


[1] EAAE, 742.

[2] So closely have the Egyptian gods been associated with time that it has been repeatedly claimed that the name Horus has been brought forth into English in the word "hours." In his translation of Diodorus, Edwin Murphy—who is not prone to fantasy—remarks, "Horus was also said to have first divided the day into hours, which still reflect his name." (Siculus/Murphy, 32, footnote 51.)

[3] Clagett, 69-70.

[4] Clagett, 84, 86-87.

[5] Clagett, 96-97.

[6] Froude, 425.

[7] The dates of the Brumalia, a Bacchic or Dionysian festival, have been reckoned as March 12th and September 18th. However, Bell relates that "there are others who say that the Brumalia was a religious festival, celebrated on the day of the winter solstice." This confusion evidently comes from two different terms as the basis for "Brumalia," one referring to the "shortest day" and the other to Bacchus/Dionysus. (Bell, 141)



which followed a ritual reenactment of an episode in the great Osirian mythos, The Contendings of Heru [Horus] and Set. It took place, according to ancient records, on the 30th of Choiach [Khoiak], a time coinciding with the end of the Nile's inundation over the land. In our calendar the festival begins on December 10 and culminates at the winter solstice (December 22).[1] The djed-pillar is a very ancient "cult icon of Osiris" that was "erected in a rite symbolizing Osiris's revivification after death."[2] The raising of the djed-pillar at Busiris is mentioned in chapter 18 of the Book of the Dead. The month of Choiach/Khoiak/Koiak corresponding to December comes from the Coptic calendar and is presumably an accurate rendering of an ancient Egyptian dating system. In Calendrical Calculations, Professors Dershowitz and Reingold state: The Christian Copts, modern descendants of the Pharaonic Egyptians, use a calendar based on the ancient Egyptian solar calendar...but with leap years.[3] Dershowitz and Reingold further say that "the Copts celebrate Christmas on Koiak 29 (which is always either December 25 or 26 on the Julian calendar)..."[4] Modern Egyptians also still celebrate a festival around the vernal equinox called "Sham elNessim," or "Shamo," which traditionally occurs in April and closely resembles the Western celebration of Easter. Since this spring festival is estimated to date to at least 4,500 years ago, it would be reasonable to assert that comparable winter-solstice celebrations may approach that age in Egypt as well. Knowing all these facts, it is logical and rational to assume that Plutarch and Macrobius were not in error in their reports about the Egyptian sun god celebrated at the winter solstice. If Macrobius is correct in his assertions that the Egyptians brought out an image of the baby sun at the winter solstice, we have no credible, scientific reason to dismiss Plutarch's statement regarding Harpocrates/Horus being this baby sun born at the winter solstice, especially since many of his contentions can be verified by the hieroglyphics, as stated by Budge. In fact, the "restoration of Osiris" at the winter solstice—which would essentially constitute his rebirth in Horus—is also related by Plutarch: Moreover, at the time of the winter solstice they lead the cow seven times around the temple of the Sun and this circumambulation is called the Seeking for Osiris, since the Goddess in the winter-time yearns for water; so many times do they go around, because in the seventh month the Sun completes the transition from the winter solstice to the summer solstice. It is said also that Horus, the son of Isis, offered sacrifice to the Sun first of all on the fourth day of the month, as is written in the records entitled the Birthdays of Horus.[5] Although here Plutarch discusses Osiris's water aspect, logic would indicate that the god's solar nature was also being sought at the winter solstice, when the sun is viewed as "weakening," "dying" or otherwise diminishing, in line with the shortening days of the years. Furthermore, the "Seeking of Osiris" at the solstice is confirmed by the conservative Encyclopedia Britannica as one of the Egyptians' "most characteristic celebrations":


[1] Clark, 131.

[2] Allen, J., TAEPT, 428.

[3] Dershowitz, 73.

[4] Dershowitz, 77.

[5] Plutarch/Babbitt, 127



Among those most characteristic celebrations of the Egyptians were those which took place at the αφανισµος or disappearance of Osiris in October or November, at the search for his remains, and their discovery about the winter solstice...[1] The discovery of Osiris's remains at the winter solstice means that he was "born again" at that time, since he was thereafter resuscitated. Because Horus and Osiris were one and interchangeable, the new sun replacing the old, it could be truthfully stated that the "rebirth" of Osiris at the winter solstice represents the "new birth" of Horus. Hence, again we find Horus being born on December 25th . The winter-solstice motif is also represented in the story related by Plutarch of Osiris being shut up in his ark during the sign of Scorpio, the "backbiter," who robs the sun of its strength as it nears the death of winter. Horus being killed by a scorpion would likewise represent the same theme. Obviously, it would be fascinating to inspect the ancient "records entitled the Birthdays of Horus" to which Plutarch refers. It is possible these texts could be found in the Library of Alexandria, which unfortunately was destroyed, taking with it a vast amount of human culture and knowledge, including many of these mysteries and secrets. Again, when we hear the clamor for "primary sources," we are reminded of this heinous destruction of ancient culture, often by religious fanatics trying to prevent the truth from becoming known. In the same vein as Plutarch, and quite possibly discussing the same records or text, in his treatise on the dual birthdays of Horus—one at the vernal equinox and the other at the winter solstice—Massey refers to "the Egyptian Book of the Divine Birth": The double birth of Horus at the two times, or the birth of the babe in the winter solstice and the rebirth as the adult in the Easter equinox is acknowledged in the Egyptian Book of the Divine Birth. The celebration of the Nativity at the solstice is referred to in the calendar of Edfu, and it is said that "everything is performed which is ordained" in the "Book of the Divine Birth."[2] The text Massey is referring to was also mentioned by Austrian professor Dr. J. Krall, quoted by Lockyer: On the 6th of Pachons...the solstice is then celebrated. The Uza-eye is then filled, a mythical act which we have in another place referred to the celebration of the solstice, and "everything is performed which is ordained" in the book "on the Divine birth."[3] This solstice that is celebrated on the 6th of Pachons is that of the summer, once again demonstrating the significance of that time of year. The "Uza-eye" being filled apparently refers to the Eye of the Sun (Ra and/or Horus) approaching its culminating strength at the summer solstice. According to Lockyer, Krall also discusses an inscription discovered at both Edfu and Esne "which seems to have astronomical significance." This inscription describes a feast day during the period of "1. Phamenoth" called the "Festival of the suspension of the sky by Ptah" or the "Feast of the suspension of the sky."[4] In chapter 43 of "Isis and Osiris," Plutarch also remarks upon a festival that falls on the new moon in the month of Phamenoth called "Osiris's coming to the Moon," which the historian says "marks the beginning of


[1] EB, 221.

[2] Massey, AE, 572.

[3] Lockyer, TDA, 284-285.

[4] Lockyer, TDA, 284.




spring."[1] However, Krall clarifies these festivals as being "connected with the celebration of the Winter Solstice, and the filling of the Uza-eye..." He then continues: Perhaps the old year, which the Egyptians introduced into the Nile valley at the time of their immigration, and which had only 360 days, commenced at the Winter Solstice. Thus we should have in the "festival of the suspension of the sky" by the ancient god Ptah—venerated as creator of the world—a remnant of the time when the Winter Solstice...marked the beginning of the year, and also the creation.[2] As we have seen on the very good authority of Dr. Poole, the Egyptian year at one point apparently began with the winter solstice. Adding to this notion is the suggestion that this period preceded the adjustment of the Egyptian 360-calendar with the addition of the five intercalary or epagomenal days. The god Ptah is the very ancient Father-Creator figure who, in "suspending the sky," resembles other Egyptian deities such as Isis and Horus with arms outstretched in the vault of heaven, as well as the Greek god Atlas supporting the world on his shoulders, and various renderings of the Christian Father and Son depicted as holding up the heavens. In On Mankind: Their Origin and Destiny, Arthur Thomson summarizes the story of the baby sun at the winter solstice, who was born of a virgin mother, specifically as applied to Horus and Isis: The Egyptians did in fact celebrate at the winter solstice the birth of the son of Isis (Plut. De Iside), and the delivery of the goddess who had brought this young child into the world, feeble and weak, and in the midst of the darkest night. This child, according to Macrobius, was the god of light, Apollo, or the sun, painted with his head shorn of his beaming hair, his head shaved, and with only a single hair left. By this, says Macrobius, the dimness of the light at the winter solstice, and the shortness of the days as well as the darkness of the deep cave in which this god seemed to be born, and from which he issued forth to rise in the direction of the northern hemisphere and the summer solstice, in which he reassumed his dominion and his glory, was indicated… It was this child of whom the virgin Isis called herself the mother in the inscription over her temple at Sais (Plut. De Iside) which contained the words, "The fruit which I have begotten is the sun." (Procl. in Tim. p. 30). This Isis of Sais has been correctly assumed by Plutarch to be the chaste Minerva, who, without fearing to lose her name of virgin, nevertheless says of herself that she is the mother of the sun. This Isis cannot be the moon, for she would never be called the mother of the star whose light she borrows. She is the Virgin of the constellations, who is called by Eratosthenes, a learned Alexandrian (Eratosthen. cap. vii.), Ceres or Isis; that Isis who opened the year, and presided over the birth of the new solar revolution, and of the god of day—in a word, of her in whose arms we shall soon see the symbolic child.[3] As another version of the solar hero, the Greek god Dionysus too was asserted to have been born at the winter solstice, when his followers held a wild celebration in his and the sun god Apollo's honor.[4] This winter-solstice birth may also have come with Dionysus's identification with Osiris, since, as Plutarch states (35), "Osiris is identical with Dionysus."[5]


[1] Plutarch/Babbitt, 105-106.

[2] Lockyer, TDA, 284.

[3] Thomson, 468-469.

[4] Sophocles, 136fn.

[5] Plutarch/Babbitt, 85.



Concerning winter solstice "Feasts and Festivals," the Encyclopedia Britannica further reports: The common people in China have a similar custom on the arrival of the winter solstice... ...The Phrygian festivals were also arranged on the theory that the deity was asleep during the winter and awake during the summer...[1] The EB also names several other cultures as having winter celebrations, including the Mexicans and Peruvians. Of course, the Romans were famed for their lengthy winter festival of Saturnalia, which encompassed the solstice. Even the lunar Jews had their winter holiday, or "Feast of the Dedication," as mentioned in John 10:22. As we can see, the celebration at the winter solstice represents an ancient tradition. [2] Christian Sun Worship? The fact that this highly important solar festival was not added to the Christ myth until centuries after the purported advent of Jesus does not make it any less significant or him any less of a solar hero himself. Indeed, so common was the claim that Christians worshipped the sun that Church fathers such as Tertullian (c. 155-230) and Augustine (354- 430) were compelled to write refutations of it. In Ad Nationes (I, 13), Tertullian writes: The Charge of Worshipping the Sun Met by a Retort. …Others, with greater regard to good manners, it must be confessed, suppose that the sun is the god of the Christians, because it is a well-known fact that we pray towards the east, or because we make Sunday a day of festivity. What then? Do you do less than this? Do not many among you, with an affectation of sometimes worshipping the heavenly bodies likewise, move your lips in the direction of the sunrise? Once more, in his Apology (16), Tertullian addresses what appears to be a widespread insight that he surprisingly asserts comes from those with "more information" and "greater verisimilitude" or truth: …Others, again, certainly with more information and greater verisimilitude, believe that the sun is our god. We shall be counted Persians perhaps, though we do not worship the orb of day painted on a piece of linen cloth, having himself everywhere in his own disk. The idea no doubt has originated from our being known to turn to the east in prayer. But you, many of you, also under pretence sometimes of worshipping the heavenly bodies, move your lips in the direction of the sunrise. These contentions of Christian sun worship evidently continued well into the fifth century, as St. Augustine also was forced to address them in his Tractates on the Gospel of John (34).[3] Adding to the suggestion of sun worship, the orientation of Christian churches towards solar alignments is well known, as explained by Sir Lockyer: All our churches are more or less oriented, which is a remnant of old sun-worship. Any church that is properly built today will have its axis pointing to the rising of the sun on the Saint's Day, i.e., a church dedicated to St. John ought not to be parallel to a church dedicated to St. Peter.... Certainly in the early centuries the churches


[1] EB, 220.

[2] A more in-depth study of the subject is provided in my book Suns of God.

[3] For more on the subject of Christianity and sun worship, see my books The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God.




were all oriented to the sun, so the light fell on the altar through the eastern doors at sunrise.[1] There are in reality numerous astrotheological characteristics within Christianity, many of which can be found in my books The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God. It is likely that anyone who wished to turn the popular and powerful sun god into a Jewish messiah, as we contend was done, would not immediately attach anything so obvious as the most popular solar festival—the birth of the sun god himself—to the myth they were attempting to propagate as "history." The fact that this celebration eventually was added to the expanding Christian mythology indicates: [1]. The powers that be had some inkling as to what they were dealing with, i.e., a solar myth; and [2]. No birthday of Jesus was previously celebrated to any significant degree. Indeed, the December 25th date is in reality one of many birthdays for Christ proposed by the various Church fathers and Christian authorities over the centuries.2 If Jesus Christ were a historical figure, it is perplexing that no one knew his real birthday and that there were so many suggestions, a number of which also possessed astronomical or astrotheological meaning. In the end, the December 25th birthday represents the birth not of the Jewish messiah but of the sun.


[1] Lockyer, TDA, 95-96.

[2] Acharya/Murdock, SOG, 231, et seq






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"The Christian Trinity ousted the old triads of gods, Osiris and Horus were represented by our Lord Jesus Christ, Isis by the Virgin Mary, Set the god of evil by Diabolus [Satan]…and the various Companies of the Gods by the Archangels, and so on."


Dr. E.A. Wallis Budge, Egyptian Tales and Romances (12)




"The god Seth, called Typhon by the Greek writers, was the Satan of later Egyptian mythology. He was the personification of the evil in the world, just as Osiris was the personification of the good."


Philip Van Ness Myers, Ancient History (38)



"Horus is presented in manifold aspects in Egyptian mythology. Mainly as the vindicator of the principle of Good; as the avenger of his father, Osiris, who succumbed temporarily in his struggle against Evil embodied in the god Set, who corresponds to our Satan. Set was represented as a beast with long pointed ears and erect tail, and may perhaps be the origin of the popular representations of Satan, the ears having come to be regarded as horns."


H. Villiers Stuart, Egypt After the War (191)



Despite the misconception that the ancients were primitive, many cultures of old were in reality highly sophisticated, as evidenced not only by their impressive architectural accomplishments such as the massive ruins around the world, but also by other artifacts such as political organization, language development and philosophical achievement. One of these advanced cultures was that of Egypt, which created along with its magnificent edifices such as the Great Pyramid and the Temple complex at Karnak both a sophisticated cosmology and an elegant writing system in which to express it. When we examine the religious and mythological beliefs of the Egyptians, in fact, we discover there is little theological they did not consider and incorporate into their faith that we possess in modern religions today. In other words, the Egyptians in particular not only were highly spiritual but also either originated or developed many of the cosmological and theological concepts found in current popular religions, such as the afterlife, immortality, heaven, deity and so on. One of the main religions in which we find the most apparent Egyptian influence is Christianity, in both its myths and rituals. Like many other faiths, the Egyptian and Christian religions share a strong overall theme of good versus evil and light versus dark. In the case of the Egyptian religion, good and evil were manifested in several gods, including and especially Horus and Set, while their Christian counterparts are Jesus and Satan. As we explore the original Egyptian mythos and ritual upon which much of Christianity was evidently founded, it needs to be kept in mind that the gods Osiris and Horus in particular were frequently interchangeable and combined, as in "I and the Father are one." (Jn 10:30) In fact, as part of the mythos, Osiris was "re-born under the form of Horus," as we have seen. This particular development exists in significant part because these figures are largely sun gods, and when one sun god "dies," as is the case with Osiris daily, monthly and annually, another replaces him and becomes him, as happens with Horus taking the place of his father. Like Osiris's many followers, whose prayers included a request to become "the Osiris" in the afterlife, so too does Horus become his father upon Osiris's demise, which is caused by these sun gods' enemy, the serpent of the night and Prince of Darkness, Set.


To reiterate, as is the case with myths around the world, the story of Osiris was not neatly laid out in an entry in an ancient encyclopedia, but, rather, appears in bits and pieces in ancient sources such as the Pyramid Texts and the Book of the Dead, which were compiled and altered over a period of centuries to millennia, beginning more than 6,000 years ago and ending well before the so-called Christian era. Nevertheless, nearly 2,000 years ago Plutarch did tell the cyclical myth of Osiris/Horus in some detail and in a fairly cohesive manner as a story. In the commonly known depiction of his death, the good god Osiris is killed by his evil brother Set, who first encloses the god in a container or "ark" and later dismembers him into 14 pieces, scattering the parts around Egypt.[1] In the version by Plutarch, Osiris's wifesister, Isis, finds most of the pieces, except Osiris's phallus, and eventually Osiris is resurrected and returns from the "other world" to instruct his son Horus to battle and defeat "Typhon," the Greek name for the god Set. Concerning the conflict between Osiris and Set, Budge remarks, "Details of the engagement are wanting, but the Pyramid Texts state that the body of Osiris was hurled to the ground by Set at a place called Netat, which seems to have been near Abydos."[2] The Pyramid Texts, in fact, contain another, older version of Osiris's death, in which he was said to have been drowned by Set, or Seth.[3] According to a later magical papyrus, this drowning took place in the "water of the underworld." This aspect of the myth is interesting in light of the fact that in Greek mythology the sun god Helios was said to have been drowned in the river Eridanus or "Jordan," in which Jesus was likewise said to have been baptized or dunked.[4] The earliest versions of Osiris's passion[5] depict Set simply as slaying the god, without the ark and the dismemberment, while later sources attach 72 villainous helpers to assist in Set's murderous crime against Osiris.[6] The story of Osiris being entombed in a tree and found by Isis at the city of Byblos in Phoenicia, also related by Plutarch, is later than the one in which his parts are simply tossed around Egypt.[7] The Byblos tale may have been added by the Egyptians after 1500 BCE in order to explain the similar myth of the dying-and-rising god Adonis-Tammuz in that part of the Near East.[8] The Astrotheology of the Passion Although appearing bizarre and incomprehensible, like so many other myths, the story of Osiris's death possesses underlying astrotheological meaning that makes sense and teaches


[1] Diodorus relates that the pieces numbered 26. However, Murphy notes that, as the god became more popular, so too did his parts, eventually numbering 42 for each of the Egyptian nomes. This increase occurred as each priesthood wished to claim a relic for its own "tomb of Osiris," reflection of the enormous relics industry that continues to this day with countless bogus artifacts of the Christian faith. (For more, see The Christ Conspiracy, Suns of God and Who Was Jesus?)


[2] Budge, LEG, xlix.


[3] Griffiths, 9.


[4] In the Egyptian, the Jordan is called "Iurutana." (Cooper, AAD, 259.) This is the same term for the constellation of the river Eridanus.


[5] The term "passion" refers to the sufferings of the god and does not belong exclusively to the Christian faith, despite the biases and oversights of dictionaries, and the spurious claims of Christian apologists. Osiris's sufferings have been referred to as a "passion" by numerous writers for a century or more, including by Professor Franz Cumont, who related: "Since the time of the twelfth dynasty, and probably much earlier, there had been held at Abydos and elsewhere a sacred performance similar to the mysteries of our Middle Ages, in which the events of Osiris's passion and resurrection were reproduced." (Cumont, 98.)


[6] Gray, 114.


[7] Gray, 114.


[8] Gray, 120.



some of the important workings of the natural world. As Plutarch relates, Osiris was entombed in the ark on the 17th day of the month of Athyr, "when the sun passes through Scorpion [sic]," and in the 28th year of either his reign or his life.[1] Coincidentally, the 17th of Athyr is equivalent to the same day that the equally mythical biblical character Noah was said to have been shut up in his ark, the patriarch too having been identified as a sun god or solar hero. The notion that Osiris was 28 when he suffered his passion is also interesting, in light of the fact that Jesus was likewise said to have been around 28-30 when he began his ministry, depending on the source. Indeed, one early Christian tradition also places Christ's passion at when he was "only twenty eight, and one-quarter years of life,"[2] quite possibly in imitation of the Osiris myth. In the solar myth, the enclosure in the ark during the zodiacal sign of Scorpio (October 24- November 22) symbolizes the weakening of the sun as it approaches the winter solstice. The number 28 is likewise astrotheological and represents the days of an average or mean monthly lunation, after which the soli-lunar god Osiris is torn into 14 pieces—the number 14 signifying the days of the moon's waning per month—and then resurrected, as the moon waxes again. As Plutarch remarks, "The Egyptians have a legend that the end of Osiris's life came on the seventeenth of the month, on which day it is quite evident to the eye that the period of the full moon is over."[3] Plutarch further explains the astrotheological meaning of the Osiris myth: Some say that the years of Osiris's life, others that the years of his reign, were twenty-eight; for that is the number of the moon's illuminations, and in that number of days does she complete her cycle. The wood which they cut on the occasions called the "burials of Osiris" they fashion into a crescent-shaped coffer because of the fact that the moon, when it comes near the sun, becomes crescent-shaped and disappears from our sight. The dismemberment of Osiris into fourteen parts they refer allegorically to the days of the waning of that satellite from the time of the full moon to the new moon….[4] Regarding this tale, astronomer Dr. Edwin C. Krupp, Director of the Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles, remarks: The numbers are significant. Although the moon completes its phases in 29½ days, the number 28 was used symbolically for this interval.... The 14 pieces of the body of Osiris sound like the 14 days of the waning, or "dying" moon, and on the main ceiling of the Dendera temple are inscriptions and pictorial reliefs that leave no doubt. In one panel, an eye, installed in a disk, is transported in a boat. The eye, we know, was a symbol of the sun or moon. Thoth, the ibis-headed scribe god of wisdom and knowledge, pilots the barge. Thoth was closely associated with the moon and counted the days and seasons. The text for this panel refers to the period after the full moon, and 14 gods accompany the eye in the disk.[5] In addition, the 72 "co-conspirators" in the later version of the tale likewise possess astrotheological meaning, representing the 72 dodecans, or divisions of the circle of the zodiac into 5 degrees each. Interestingly, in the gospel story Jesus is depicted with either 70 or 72 "disciples," the number 70 often symbolizing the dodecans as well. Also, the drowning of Osiris in the "river" Eridanus evidently signifies the god's passage through the


[1] Plutarch, ch. 13; Babbitt, 37.


[2] Catholic Encyclopedia, "Christmas."


[3] Plutarch, ch. 42; Babbitt, 103.


[4] Plutarch, ch. 42; Babbitt, 103. 5 Krupp, 18.


well-known constellation of the same name. It is likely that the Jordan river, biblical site of so many purported miracles, was named after its apparent stellar counterpart, with said "miracles" also taking place not on Earth but in the heavens. Furthermore, the subsequent avenging of Osiris's murder by his son(s) Horus also constitutes an astrotheological motif. In the myth, Horus the first son of Osiris and Isis is already alive before Typhon/Set tears Osiris's body into 14 pieces.[1] Osiris is depicted by Plutarch as later coming from "the other world" to train this Horus to battle Typhon, also called Seth. [2] At a certain point, the other, newborn Horus becomes the avenger of his father's death by killing Set. These different Horuses nevertheless symbolize the one sun in various phases of its "life." The battle between Horus and Set is mentioned in many places in Egyptian texts, in which the dynamic duo is called, among other things, the "Two Combatants" and the "Divine Pair."[3] The story of this conflict includes various details such as Horus's association with Ra in attempting to destroy Set, as well as numerous other characters such as the blacksmiths on Horus's side and the vast army of "bad guys" with Set. Some of these particulars signify astrotheological elements added as the science of astronomy became more sophisticated. For example, Horus's battle with Set depicted in the inscriptions at the relatively late site of Edfu includes him slaying Set's monsters, the crocodile and hippopotamus, which symbolize two of the "circumpolar stars" that are "washed out" or removed from sight when the sun's rays appear on the horizon.[4] With or without the details, of course, the contention between Horus and Set ultimately represents the battle of good versus evil and light versus dark. Who is Set? One of the five children of Seb, the earth-god, and Nut, the sky-goddess, Set is described in chapter 17 of the Book of the Dead/Ritual as "that god who steals souls, who laps up corruption, who lives on what is putrid, who is in charge of darkness, who is immersed in gloom, of whom those who are among the languid ones are afraid."[5] As the one "who is in charge of darkness," Set "comes to carry off the light."[6] Regarding Set's role, Lewis Spence remarks, "As the days began to shorten and the nights to lengthen it was thought that he stole the light from the sun-god."[7] Hence, Set is a thief in the night who robs Osiris/Horus of his strength and life. As the monster that prevents the sun from shining, Set also symbolizes storm clouds: This battle may likewise be found in the sky by day when storm-clouds darken the face of the sun, so that the myth of the serpent and the solar deity Re merges into the old story of the conflict between Horus and Seth. Thus the serpent becomes more and more identical with Seth, as being an additional manifestation of the wicked god who later is said to have fought against Horus in the form of other water monsters as well, such as the hippopotamus and the crocodile. This confusion of 'Apop and Seth, however, does not take place until after the Eighteenth Dynasty.[8] Prior to this identification of Set with the monster Apophis, enemy of the sun god Ra, Set was not always considered "evil" but was worshipped as a divine being, evidenced by the pharaonic choice of the name "Seti." At a certain point, however, Set is demonized:


[1] Plutarch, ch. 18; Babbitt, 45.


[2] Plutarch, ch. 41; Babbitt, 101, 121, 147.


[3] Renouf, 140.


[4] Lockyer, 151.


[5] Faulkner, pl 10.


[6] Bonwick, 133.


[7] Spence, AEML, 100.


[8] Gray, 107.



The last king bearing Seth's name belongs to the Twentieth Dynasty, about 1200 B.C. The interesting evolution of this god into a Satan is due to the influence of the Babylonian myth of Tiamat.[1] It has also been claimed that, like the monstrous Tiamat, Set himself was originally a Semitic god imported into Egypt,[2] an interesting assertion in light of the contention that Set is equivalent to Satan, the word "Satan" being related to the Hebrew or Semitic term shaytan, meaning "adversary," and later adopted into Christianity. Regarding Set/Seth, James Bonwick remarks: [French Egyptologist] Pleyte has no doubt about Set being the El or Elohim of the East, and the same as Baal. Finding that curious passage in the book of Numbers about the destruction of the sons of Seth, he says, "It is probable that the Septuagint meant by the 'Sons of Seth,' the people who rendered homage to the god Seth (Set), the same divinity who was adored in Egypt by the Palestino-Asiatic tribes."[3] Concerning the "children of Seth" at Numbers 24:17, Samuel Sharpe remarks, "Seth is an Egyptian name for Satan, and by the children of Seth, the Samaritans seem meant."[4] Moreover, Louis Gray calls Seth "the general patron of Asiatics and of warriors,"[5] and Prof. A.H. Sayce writes: Set or Sut became for the later Egyptians the impersonation of evil. He was identified with Apophis, the serpent of wickedness, against whom the sun-god wages perpetual war; and his name was erased from the monuments on which it was engraved. But all this was because Set was the god and the representative of the Asiatic invaders who had conquered Egypt, and aroused in the Egyptian mind a feeling of bitter animosity towards themselves.[6] Therefore, it would appear that the Egyptian god Set was originally one of the Semitic Elohim, the plural gods worshipped by the Israelites.[7] As we have seen, the villain in the myth revolving around the sun god Ra is named Apophis, Apop, Apap, Apep or Apepi, all variants of the same word. Like the myth of Horus versus Set, Ra battles on a daily basis the great serpent of the night sky, Apap, defeating him at dawn. Apophis is the "devourer" and the "fiend of darkness."[8] Regarding the serpent motif, Stuart states: ...It is remarkable that Satan—our evil principle—is spoken of also as the Great Serpent, and like Apop is represented as chained in the bottomless pit.[9] Another transliterated Egyptian title for the destructive and fiendish serpent is "Sata," as found in Wilson's translation of the Papyrus of Nu, which reads: I am the serpent Sata whose years are many. I die and I am born again each day. I am the serpent Sata which dwelleth in the uttermost parts of the earth. I die, and I am born again, and I renew myself, and I grow young each day.[1]


[1] Gray, 392.

[2] Bonwick, 130.

[3] Bonwick, 135.

[4] Sharpe, 28.

[5] Gray, 155.

[6] Sayce, 162.

[7] Cf. "The Myth of Hebrew Monotheism" in The Christ Conspiracy.

[8] Spence, 13.

[9] Stuart, 345.



In his Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary, using the same transliteration Budge calls Sata the "serpent-fiend in the Tuat."[2] The Tuat or Duat is defined as "a very ancient name for the land of the dead, and of the Other World."[3] The "land of the dead" and "other world" also signify the "cave," "tomb" or "underworld" of the nightly terrain through which Osiris (or Ra) must pass daily, to be born again at sunrise as his son, Horus.[4] This journey is described in the ancient Egyptian book "Am Tuat," as summarized by Budge: When the Sun-god set in the west in the evening he was obliged to travel through the Tuat to the eastern sky, in order to rise again on this earth the following day.[5] Thus, Apophis/Sata is the same as the monster Typhon/Set battled every day by Horus. In other words, all of these names—Apap, Apep, Apepi, Apop, Apophis, Seth, Set, Sut, Sutu, Sata—represent epithets for the same god or phenomenon: Both "the Arch-Enemy of Osiris, and the personification of Evil,"[6] as well as "the Arch-fiend and great Enemy of Ra."[7] Thus, it can be truthfully stated that Set is Satan, and the battle between Jesus and Satan—Light v. Darkness—represents a formulaic rehash of the far more ancient contention between Horus and Set. Indeed, if Set is Satan, then Osiris/Horus is Jesus, as has been maintained for centuries for this and many other reasons. Like Satan, Set rebels from his divine birth. Also like Satan, who in the Old Testament is merely "the Adversary," rather than the personification of Absolute Evil that he became in the New Testament, Seth was not always considered absolutely evil. Like Yahweh, God of the Old Testament, who was the orchestrator of both good and evil, Set is represented as the "twin" of Horus and half of a dual god as a single being, Horus-Set.[8] Yet, Set is also a separate entity who becomes locked in an eternal struggle with his alter ego and enemy, Horus, and, again, at a certain point the "old thunder-god" Set became "the representative of all evil" and "a real Satan."[9] Like Satan, Set/Seth too had his devoted followers—the "sons of Seth," possibly as recorded in the Old Testament and generally thought to refer to the descendants of Adam's third son Seth. Like Adam's other son Cain, who kills his brother Abel, Seth/Set is depicted as murdering his brother Osiris. And like other characters in the Old Testament, such as Abraham and Moses, in the "patriarch" Seth we seem to have yet another instance of an ancient tribal god demoted to human status. As does Satan with Jesus (Rev. 12:1-5), Set attempts to kill Horus. Set is the "god of the desert" who battles Horus, while Jesus is tempted in the desert by Satan. Like Satan, who has a forked tail, Set too is depicted with a forked tail. In fact, Set's portrayal with bizarre ears and an anteater-like snout makes him appear creepy and demonic:


[1] Wilson, 73.

[2] Budge, AEHD, 640.

[3] Budge, AEHD, 871-872.

[4] Cf. Murray, LAE, 50-51: "Great and mighty is the river of the sky, flowing across the heavens and through the Duat, the world of night and of thick darkness, and on that river floats the Boat of Ra…. Slowly goes the Boat of Ra, passing through the Duat, to regions of thick darkness, of horror and dismay, where the dead have their habitations, and Apep lies in wait for the coming of Ra."

[5] Budge, AIAEL, 245.

[6] Budge, LOLM, liii.

[7] Budge, LEG, xlii.

[8] Budge, FFGAE, 375. In the Pyramid Texts and elsewhere, as another one of the gods born on the five intercalary or epagomenal days completing the 365-day year, like Set, Horus the Elder is also said to be the son of Geb or Seb—the earth god and "father of the gods"—just as Jesus was the son of Joseph, the earthly father of God.

[9] Gray, 109.



Seth was identified with an animal that had the body of an elongated jackal or greyhound; a long neck; a thin, curved snout; rectangular, upraised ears; and a stiff, forked tale. Seth was often portrayed with a human body and the head of this beast.[1] Set is the serpent of the night, the Prince of Darkness and other qualities in line with Satan, while Horus is the "sun of righteousness" and the Prince of Light, much like Christ. As we have seen and will continue to see, there are many such correspondences between the myth of Osiris/Horus and that of Jesus. In the end, the tale of Jesus versus Satan, we contend, is equally astrotheological and mythical as the prototypical epic drama of Osiris/Horus versus Set.


[1] World Book Encyclopedia, 321.




A modern artistic rendition of Set (left), square-tipped ears and proboscis-like snout as compared to his modern-day reformulation as the Devil (Satan) or fallen angel.
In Egyptian mythology, Set, hieroglyph:, stone "" symbol determinative, aka "Seth" or "Sut" (Massey, 1907), re-written, monotheistically, via the root “s-t-n”, as the Hebrew-Christian Satan (aka devil), said to be representative of the stony or red desert land (Budge, 1904), called "Σηθ" (Plutarch, c.100), identified with the Greek god Typhon (or Typho) in later times, was, in early Egyptian dynastic times, the chief god of the south, the twin god of Horus, the god of the north, who in the Pyramid Texts helped Ra get to heaven with his "ladder", who in later times became the god of chaos or adversity, symbolized by the was scepter; later the embodiment of evil or darkness; pictured with a long, erect, and square-tipped ears and proboscis-like snout, with either a red color or night black skin, which are said to indicate the head of a fabulous camel-snout like unidentified night-prowling animal called the Oryx. [1]

Set | Five forms
Historically, in the period 3,500BC to 500AD, Set had five dominate forms, each held in the belief systems of people, changing per period as the religion changed per each recension; the first four of which Budge (1904) summarizes as follows, dates added per supreme god timeline chronology: [4]
“We have now seen how the god Set was the opponent first of Heru-ur [3,100BC], then of Ra [2600BC], and finally of Osiris [1100BC] and his son Horus [332BC], and that during the long period of Egyptian history his attributes changed according to the various modifications which took place in the beliefs concerning this god in the minds of the Egyptians, and that from being a power of nature, the darkness, he became the symbol and personification of both physical and moral evil.”

The fifth form of Set, in the guise of Satan, the opponent of Jesus [300AD], aka Horus described monotheistically, per Roman recension (see: recension theory).

In 1887, Heinrich Brugsch, in his Religion and Mythology of the Egyptians, described Set thusly: [3]
“Set was the god of the downward motion of the sun in the lower hemisphere, in a southerly direction, and for this reason he was the source of the destructive heat of summer; and since the days began to diminish after the summer solstice, it was declared that he stole the light from Horus or Ra, and he was held to be the cause of all the evil, both physical and moral, which resulted therefrom.

The light which Thoth brought with the new moon was withdrawn by Set as soon as it was possible for him to obtain power over that luminary, and he was, naturally, thought to be the cause of clouds, mist, rain, thunder and lightning, hurricanes and storms, earthquakes and eclipses, and in short of every thing which tended to reverse the ordinary course of nature and of law and order. From a moral point of view he was the personification of sin and evil.”

In 1907, Gerald Massey, in his Ancient Egypt: The Light of the World, citing Heinrich Ritter (1841), defines the Hebrew-Christian Satan as a re-write of the Egyptian Set (or Sut) as follows: [7]
“The Hebrew Satan was the Egyptian Sut [Set], who became the evil one of the later theology as an anthropomorphic rendering of Apap [Apep] the serpent of evil. Sut was one of the seven sons of the old ‘first mother’, the goddess of the Great Bear in the astronomical mythology [astro-theology]. He was not one of ‘the sons of god’, as there was no god extant when he was born. Sut was brought forth twin with Horus, and first born as the adversary of his brother Osiris. In a truer version of the mythos the conflict was in phenomena that were physical, not moral.”
A depiction (Ѻ) of Jesus as Roman emperor, wearing military dress, holding cross, with sun disc behind his head, and crushing the serpent representing Satan [Devil] (aka Set as Apep). "I am the way and the truth and the life" (John 14:6) reads the inscription. Ravenna, after 500.

Massey then suppositions on the mythical character to human character switch as follows, in particular stated that much of the Set vs Horus story is found in the book of Job:
“There are no morals in mythology, when the characters are non-human, and when the mythical heroes and monsters have been represented as human characters we need to know the mythology once more. The Bible is full of such characters, and Job is one of them. In the ritual, Sut [Set] is the adversary of Osiris, or, stilt earlier, the opponent of Horus. He undoes what the ‘good being’ does. He is the malicious destroyer; the author of disease. lie is permitted to persecute Horus or Osiris to the death. In his character of the adversary, the power of darkness, he says. " I am Sut [Set], who causeth the storms and tempests. and who goeth round the horizon of heaven, like one whose heart is veiled" (Rit, ch. 39). Which is equivalent to saying: ‘I am black-hearted’. Sut is here the prototype of Satan, who ‘goes to and fro in the earth’, and of whom it is elsewhere said, ‘Your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour’ (I. Peter, v. 8). So, Satan the destroyer plays the devil with the person, the possessions, the belongings of Job. who answers to the suffering Osiris in this development of the ancient drama, in which Horus or Job was no more a human personage than is Set or Satan. They can be studied in the ritual [Passion of Osiris] without disguise or falsification of character, and without a long series of disputations, lamentations, and sermons taking the place of the primitive mystery. The ‘parable’ taken up by Job is the battle of Set and Osiris in the mythical representation. Job the afflicted one is the suffering Osiris who passed into Amenta as the victim of the power of darkness, Set the tormentor, the tempter, the desolator, the destroyer. Amongst other devilries, Set flung his ordure at Horus (Rit. ch. 17); he also pierced him in the eye; but, where Osiris suffered dumbly and opened not his mouth. Job laments his lot, and takes to cursing the day of his birth and wishing that he had been addled in the egg. The character of Job is fathomlessly inferior to that of the good Osiris, called the motionless of heart.

The suffering Horus transforms in ‘in the west’ and becomes the bennu Osiris or the phoenix. Job does the same, or expects to do so, when he says: ‘I shall die in my nest, and I shall multiply my days as the phoenix’. The phoenix was the emblem of the solar god who died to resuscitate in the nest of Amenta. He enters the nest as a hawk and issues forth as a phoenix (Rit., 13, 1). When the battle with Set is over and Horus rises again triumphant over all his trials that were inflicted on him by the adversary, his property is doubled; he is crowned with the double crown as conqueror and king of the double earth. This is puerilely represented by the Lord restoring to Job two-fold of all he had before and overwhelming him with material wealth.”

In 1904, Wallis Budge, in his The Gods of the Egyptians, building on Brugsch (1887), stated that Set had two general forms, the first as darkness, the second as Apep the enemy snake of Ra; the gist of which is as follows: [4]
“The mythological and religious texts of all periods contain many allusions to the fight which Set waged against Horus, and more than one version of the narrative is known. In the first and simplest form the story merely records the natural opposition of Day to Night, or Night to Day, and the two Combatant gods were Heru-ur, or Horus the Elder, and Set. In its second form the two combatant gods are Ra and Set, and the chief object of the latter is to prevent Ra from appearing in the East daily. The form which Set assumed on these occasions was that of a monster serpent, and he took with him as helpers a large number of small serpents and noxious creatures of various kinds. The name of the serpent was Apep [] or Aaapef [], which is preserved in Coptic under the form [], but he was also called Rerek , and since he was identified with a long series of serpent monsters he had as many names as Ra.”
Budge goes on to state that Set had two more forms:
“In the third form of the story the combatant gods are Osiris and Set, and we have already seen how Set slew his brother and persecuted his widow and child, and how he escaped punishment because Osiris had, at the time of his death, none to avenge his cause. In the fourth form of the story the combatant gods are Horus, the son of Osiris and Isis, and Set, and the avowed intention of Horus is to slay him that slew his father Osiris.”

These latter to "forms" of Set, refer to the Heliopolis recension [see: recension theory], wherein Set is the brother of Osiris, Isis, and Nephthys, wherein, in the so-called Passion of Osiris, Set kills Osiris, and chops him up into 14 pieces (the number of stars of Orion), and scatters his pieces about the land. Isis then re-collects the pieces, reassembles them, and, with the help of the powers of the god Thoth, resurrects the dead Osiris, then has reincarnation magical sex with him in the form of a kite, become pregnant with Horus, who then avenges his father as an adult, by cutting off the head of Set.

Budge also states that this Horus defeating Set story is moral parable of the idea that good always triumphs over evil, or light always triumphs over darkness in the older Ra vs Set (Apep) sense of the matter:
“The fight between Horus, son of Osiris and Isis, and Set, had a very important bearing on the destinies of the dead, for to it was attached the moral idea of the victory of good over evil, and the deceased was believed to conquer Set even as Osiris had done.”

The modern version of this is explained via free energy coupling theory. [6]
A visual gist of how the Egyptian polytheistic model of the battle of dark vs light, in the gods of Set and Horus, morphed into the Roman monotheistic model of the battle of evil vs good, in the characters of the Devil (or Satan) vs Jesus.
Fall of Set | Satan / Devil
In the 19th dynasty (1292-1189BC), Set rose in power to become the supreme god of Egypt; Wallis Budge (pg. 251) summarizes this as follows:
“The cult of Set appears to have been revived under the XIXth Dynasty, for the second king thereof called himself Seti, after the name of the god, and this king caused bas-reliefs to be set up in his temples wherein Set is represented in the act of performing the coronation ceremonies. Under this Dynasty we have another king called after the name of the god, i.e. Seti II, Menephthah, but after that period the figure of Set appears in no cartouche, and his evil reputation increased.”

In the 20th dynasty (1189-1077BC), as Budge further notes, Set became demonized to such an extent that “bent statues” of him have been found:
“To the XXth Dynasty probably belongs the very interesting bronze figure of Set in the British Museum (No. 18,191), which was worn as a pendant, and was originally plated with gold; the god stands upright and wears the double crown of the South and the North and a uraeus. When found the figure was bent double, a position which it was made to take by violence, probably by someone who detested the god, but the body has been straightened out and it is now possible to examine the head of the Set animal, which in this specimen is finely shaped.”

In c.900BC, or "much later" than the 20th Dynasty period, as Budge puts it, a small wooden Set animal (British Museum: No. 30,460) was made, found standing on a pedestal on which is a sepulchral inscription, addressed to Set, which reads: “the great god, lord of heaven, [give me] life, strength, and health”. Here, we see Set seen as a good god, at least by some, in this period.

In c.600BC, Set began to be transliterated, via the root “s-t-n”, as Massey (1907) notes, in the Hebrew recension, in Judaism (Hebrew mythology), into the term “Satan”, meaning "adversary, one who plots against another"; later, in Greek mythology, this became synonymous with “diabolos”, aka devil. (Ѻ)

In c.520BC, Pythagoras, and or the “Pythagoreans”, as Budge (1904) puts it, looked upon Typho to have been of the rank or order of Demons, as, according to them, “he was produced in the even number fifty-six”, per generalized grouping scheme, as summarized by Plutarch (c.100AD):
“The power of the triangle is expressive of the nature of Pluto, Bacchus, and Mars, the properties of the square of Rhea, Venus, Ceres, Vesta, and Juno; of the dodecagon of Jupiter; so, as we are informed by Eudoxus [c.390-337BC] (Ѻ) is the figure of 56 angles expressive of the nature of Typho: as "therefore all the others above-mentioned in the Pythagorean system are looked upon as so many Genii or Demons, so in like manner must this latter be regarded by them.”

Here we see that, for whatever reasons, in the years 1200 to 500BC, Set became demonized.

In 100AD, Plutarch, in his On Isis and Osiris, and or Sam Squire (1744), his English translator, stated the following conjectural connection between Set and Moses:
“Now as to those who pretend that Typho [Set] escaped out of the battle upon an Ass after a flight of seven days, and that, after he had got into a place of security, he begat two sons, Hierosolymus and Judaeus, it is obvious from the very face of the relation, that their design is to give an air of fable to [what] the Jewish history [relates] of the flight of Moses out of Egypt, and of the settlement of the Jews about Jerusalem and Judaea (Squire’s Translation).”

Wallis Budge (1904), in commentary on this, states the following:
“As a proof of the correctness of Plutarch’s statements may be mentioned the figure of Set, which is reproduced from a Demotic papyrus at Leyden by Signor Lanzone, and which represents the god as having the head of an ass; on his breast, which is that of a man, is inscribed the name CHθ.”

It is blurry here as to what exactly Budge proved? Possibly Squire, barring a reading of the exact translation, added in his own commentary and Budge is reading into this?
Above: a Horus Gilgamesh Awkward Moments: Children’s Bible (2013) rendition (Ѻ) of 2 Kings 2:24 [see also: Joshua 10:13] and the story of how Elisah issues a “curse” on 42 boys, for calling him bald, that draws two female “bears” out of the woods, who tear the boys to pieces. [5] This strange-sounding Biblical story, accordingly, i.e. according to recension theory, is a rewrite of the Set and Horus battle, in the form of two bears. The 42 boys are rewrites of the 42 gods of the judgment hall, i.e. 42 nome gods of Egypt. The character Elisah, or El-sah, is Hebrew for “god Sah”, i.e. the Orion constellation version of the god Osiris.
Two bears | Set vs Horus
See main: 2 Kings 2:24
Budge states (pg. 245) that the first time Horus and Set fought, it was in the form of men, and that the second time it was in the form of "bears". This would seem to be an astro-theology reference, to a bear-shaped constellation. The constellation of the “Great Bear” (Ѻ) is the sign (Ѻ) of Set; similar to how the Orion constellation is the sign of Osiris.

The following are related quotes:
“I do not intend to do here what other scholars already have done well. Jeffrey Russell and others, e.g., have attempted to investigate cross-cultural parallels between the figure of Satan and such figures as the Egyptian god Set or the Zoroastrian evil power Ahriman. What interest me are the specific social implications of the figure of Satan.”
— Elaine Pagels (1995), The Origin of Satin [2]

1. (a) Budge, Wallis. (1904). The Gods of the Egyptians, Volume Two (§:15: Set, or Suti, and Nephthys, pgs. 241-60). Dover, 1969.
(b) Carus, Paul. (1900). History of the Devil (pgs. 15-28) (Ѻ). Publisher.
(c) Jordan, Michael. (1993). Encyclopedia of Gods: Over 2,500 Deities of the World (pgs. 233). Facts on File, Inc.
2. (a) Russell, Jeffrey B. (1970). The Devil: Perceptions of Evil Antiquity to Primitive Christianity. Cornell University Press, 1987.
(b) Pagels, Elaine. (1995). The Origin of Satan (pg. xviii). Vintage Books.
3. (a) Brugsch, Heinrich. (1887). Religion and Mythology of the Egyptians (Religion und Mythologie der Aegypter) (pg. 703). Publisher.
(b) Budge, Wallis. (1904). The Gods of the Egyptians, Volume Two (pg. 244). Dover, 1969.
4. Budge, Wallis. (1904). The Gods of the Egyptians, Volume Two (pgs. 244-45; Typho as #56, pgs. 252-53; four forms, pg. 254). Dover, 1969.
5. Gilgamesh, Horus and Tickheathen, Agnes. (2013). Awkward Moments Children’s Bible, Volume One (Foreword: David McAfee) (eB) (Ѻ) (Tear Those Boys to Pieces, pgs. 23-24). CreateSpace.
6. Thims, Libb. (2011). Thermodynamic Proof that Good Always Triumphs over Evil”, Journal of Human Thermodynamics, 7: 1-4.
7. Massey, Gerald. (1907). Ancient Egypt: The Light of the World: a Work of Reclamation and Restitution in Twelve Books, Volume Two (pg. 493). T. Fisher Unwin.
8. (a) Plutarch. (100AD). On Isis and Osiris. Publisher.
(b) Squire, Sam. (1744). Plutarch's Treatise on Isis and Osiris (pg. 15ff). Cambridge.
(c) Budge, Wallis. (1904). The Gods of the Egyptians, Volume Two (pgs. 253-54). Dover, 1969.

External links
 Set (deity) – Wikipedia.





A visual of the artistic form change of "Set", the Egyptian god of evil (1700BC), a red-skin colored fallen god, who does battle each night with the sun god Ra, in the form of a serpent, to the "Devil", the Christian angel of evil, a red-skin colored fallen angel, who also appears in the form of a serpent, who does battle with the forces of good, in modern terms.
In religio-mythology, Devil (TR:18), aka Satan (Set) or Sheitan (Islam), Lucifer, Baal (Semitic), Beelzebub, among other names, refers to the deity-like personification of the force, energy, or power of evil, darkness, and or causality behind wrong-doings; the character mold of which derived from the Egyptian god Set.

Set | Fallen angel
The modern concept of the Devil, in the Abrahamic religions, is derived from the Egyptian god Set, a god typically described as "horned", with “red or reddish-brown hair or skin”, who is a fallen god. [1]

In 1879, Peter Renouf, in his Origin and Growth of Religion: as Illustrated by the Ancient Religion of Ancient Egypt, summarized Set’s fall from grace, as a leading god, as follows: [6]
Set, though the antagonist of light in the myths of Ra, Osiris and Horus, is not a god of evil. He represents a physical reality, a constant and everlasting law of nature, and is as true a god as his opponents. His worship is as ancient as any. The kings of Egypt were as devoted to Set as to Horus, and derived from them the sovereignty over north and south. On some monuments one god is represented with two heads, one being that of Horus, the other that of Set.”
This two-head depiction (with description) is as follows: [1]
Renouf continues:

“The name of the great conqueror, 'Seti' [1290BC] signifies 'he that is devoted to Set.' It was not till the decline of the Empire that this deity came to be regarded as an evil demon, that his name was effaced from monuments, and other names substituted for his in the ritual.”

In 1883, Frederic Hall, in his The Pedigree of the Devil, citing Renouf, summarized the Set as fallen god turned “devil” or demon figure as follows: [6]
Set was the devil of the later Egyptian mythology.”

Christianity also over-typically describes the Devil as a "fallen angel" who terrorizes the world through evil. [4] This refers to the fall of the god Set from good god to bad god after 18th dynasty Egypt; Wallis Budge (1904) summarizes as follows: [1]
“In the early dynastic times, it is tolerably certain that the worship of Set was widespread, and his cult seems to have flourished until the period which lies between the XII and the XVIIIth Dynasties; but about BC 1700 a change came over his fortunes, and the Egyptians began to show the greatest detestation for him. He had, of course, always been connected with evil, but it appears that the popularity of his cult suffered greatly at this period because he was associated with the occupation of Northern Egypt by the Hyksos, who identified him with certain Semitic, Syrian gods.”

Set, in other words, originally, in 1st dynasty Egypt (3,100BC), was the great god of Southern Egypt who battled Horus, the great god of Northern Egypt, for rule of the Empire. Horus, according to the famous "Passion of Osiris" one in the end and therein proclaimed the right to rule Egypt, which is why most of the early dynasty pharaohs had Hor (or Horus) as part of their name. Set, after the fall of Hyksos dynasty, which was in power in Egypt from 1650 to 1550BC (see: supreme god timeline), went from being a "chief god" to a fallen god. Then, in the course of the Hebrew recension (see: recension theory), a polytheism to monotheism religious reformation, wherein lesser gods were reshaped into the guise of either angels, demons, of fictional humans, Set went from being a "fallen god" to a "fallen angel".

Set | Red color
In 1970, Jeffery Russell, in his The Devil: Perceptions of Evil Antiquity to Primitive Christianity, stitched together connections between Set and the Devil; in particular, Russell notes that the "red color", contrary to the modern view that the red of the devil has to do with the red color of the flames of hell, originated from the death-bring "red" color of the hot dessert sand, surrounding the fertile part of Nile region, as opposed to the life-giving (crop-growing) "black" soil, called keme, brought down from the Ethiopian Mountains, each Nile flood season: [2]
“No deity ever becomes the principle of evil, but in one god, Seth [Set], the destructive and unharmonious element is more evident than in others. The myth of Seth as the antagonist of the sky god Hor or Horus (hor = ‘face’ or ‘sky’) is as ancient as the Pyramid Texts; the hostility between the two grows in time, and finally in the Hellenistic period [323BC-30BC], Seth has become almost entirely evil. Some scholars interpret the origin of the myth as political: Horus is a god of lower Egypt, the north, and Seth is a god of upper Egypt, the south. Others insist that Seth and Horus (or Osiris in the myths) are deities of opposite ecologies, Seth representing the dry desert and Horus or Osiris the black earth [keme] or the fertilizing Nile. Egypt is one of the few cultures in which black is not the color of evil, but the color of the fertile, life-giving alluvial plains of the delta. Red was the evil color, the hostile hue of the scorching sands. Because of Seth's association with the desert, his color most commonly is red, and red-haired or ruddy people were considered in some special way his own.”


Set | Horns
In 1978, Anthony Mercante, in his Who’s Who: in Egyptian Mythology, elaborated on Set as follows: [5]
Set is sometimes portrayed with horns, which made him the ideal image for the devil in Egyptian Christianity.”


Set | Snake & Tree
In modern terms, Christianity identifies the Devil ("Satan") with the Serpent who tempted Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. [4] This refers to the characteristic of Set in the form of Apep the snake that does battle with Ra the sun god, in and around the Persia Tree [see: Christmas tree], each night. [1]

Set | Namesakes
Set assumed many names, one of the first of which was Baal; Wallis Budge (1904) summarizes this as follows: [1]
“In the North and South of Egypt, Set was called both Nubti and Sutekh,  and there is no doubt whatsoever that he was endowed by the peoples in the Delta with all the attributes of the Semitic god Baal, בעל, whose name appears in Egyptian under the form Bar, or Balu .”

The history of how Set subsumed Baal in namesake became the modern day namesake "devil" (or Satan) is involved; Matthew Chris, in his Modern Satanism (2009) gives a fairly cogent synopsis of this overall recension as follows: [8]
Satan's ancestry is the result of an elaborate cross-breeding of traditions that has spanned millennia. Numerous faiths and folklores have contributed to his bloodline as it has passed through history, creating a figure rich in resonance and lore. Though widely regarded in the present day as a single supernatural entity, the preeminent embodiment of evil, Satan is actually a reduction or hybridization of a number of individual demons and mythical beings. The list of his progenitors, kinsmen and co-conspirators includes Lucifer, Mephistopheles, Beelzebub, Belial, Azazel, the Devil, various lesser devils, Ahriman, and even the Egyptian deity Set (Seth). This impressive gallery of seducers, liars, and destroyers gradually coalesced into the grand figure of the archfiend as he is now known, the great adversity of god and humanity.”

Set, as the antithesis of light, over the course of the last 5,000-plus years, in short, via religious recension, redaction, and synretism, became the modern religious mythical figure of the "devil", the embodiment of evil.

In 2011, in the supernatural horror-thriller The Rite, staring Anthony Hopkins, the agnostic-skeptic American priest in training Michael Kovak (Colin O'Donoghue) is only able to “exorcise” the demon, using the “knowing the name” technique of the Egyptian human model, by speaking the secret name of the demon, at the end of the movie, which is Baal. (Ѻ)

The following are related quotes:
“I do not intend to do here what other scholars already have done well. Jeffrey Russell [1970] and others, e.g., have attempted to investigate cross-cultural parallels between the figure of Satan [Devil] and such figures as the Egyptian god Set or the Zoroastrian evil power Ahriman. What interest me are the specific social implications of the figure of Satan.”
— Elaine Pagels (1995), The Origin of Satin [3]

1. Budge, Wallis. (1904). The Gods of the Egyptians, Volume Two (§:Set, pgs. 241-60; Horus-Set double head image, pg. 242-243; Apep, pg. 245; fallen angel, pg. 250; Baal, pg. 250). Dover, 1969.
2. Russell, Jeffrey B. (1970). The Devil: Perceptions of Evil Antiquity to Primitive Christianity (Seth, 13+ pgs; quote, pg. 78). Cornell University Press, 1987.
3. Pagels, Elaine. (1995). The Origin of Satan (pg. xviii). Vintage Books.
4. Leeming, David. (2005). Oxford Companion to World Mythology (Devil, 22+ pgs). Oxford University Press.
5. Mercante, Anthony S. (1978). Who’s Who in Egyptian Mythology (editor and reviser: Robert Bianchi) (pg. 144). Metro Books, 1995.
6. Renouf, Peter Le Page. (1879). Lectures on the Origin and Growth of Religion: as Illustrated by the Ancient Religion of Ancient Egypt, Hibbert Lectures (pgs. 117). Publisher.
7. Hall, Frederick T. (1883). The Pedigree of the Devil (pg. 130). Publisher.
8. Mathews, Chris. (2009). Modern Satanism: Anatomy of a Radical Subculture (Earliest Origins, pg. 2). Greenwood Publishing Group.

External links
 Devil – Wikipedia.
 Beelzebub – Wikipedia.
 Baal – Wikipedia.





And what was that you said about Satan not being based on Set/Apep Berhman? 



The Gods of the Egyptians 1904, The dual god Horus-Set. #egypt

Horus-Set Composite


Isis of the Stars: Prayer to Heru-Ur on his Epagomenal Day


Winged Horus Defeating Set Painting by Pet Serrano





the sun horus versus set the night. sunset. sun set. egyptian mythology.  god versus satan | boxoff




Jesus vs. Satan






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Horus Never Raised Osiris from the dead he remained in the underworld! or Osiris wasnt called Elazarus!




The Raising of Osiris

As remarked upon by Diodorus before the alleged advent of Jesus Christ the Egyptian son of God Horus was revered as a miricle maker and healer. Like Jesus who cures the blind man with his spit Horus heals wounds using his spittle (PT 455:850a/P 50) [4] In CT Sp 331 the "saliva and spittle" of Horus are also sought out by the deceased as his mother Hathor.[5] Indeed in CT Sp 527 the "Spittle which issued from the mouth of Re-Atum" represents the purification of the Osiris.[6] In CT 622 we discover that the spit of the Osiris is a "healing operation"[7] while in CT 818 the spitting is "prophylactic in purpose"[8] In CT 1113 the deceased as Horus says "I am the one who spits on wounds which shall heal..."[9] In the Pyramid Texts (PT 219:192b/W 152) Horus is depicted as relieving "intestinal pain"[10] as well as assorted other ailments including the disease of death. Demonstrating the remarkable ancient Horus-Jesus connection one of the old Coptic spells to remove pains of childbirth was "Jesus! Horus" or just simply "Jesus Horus!"[11] 


[4] Allen, T., HPT, 33; Mercer, 157; Allen, J., AEPT, 110; Faulkner, AEPT, 151


[5] Faulkner, AECT, I, 256


[6] Faulkner, AECT, II, 152


[7] Faulkner, AECT, II, 206


[8] Faulkner, AECT, III, 9


[9] Faulkner, AECT, III, 162



Regarding Horus's role in healing professor of Egyptology at the University of Chicago Dr. Robert K. Ritner remarks: In medical texts, the patient is almost invariably identified with the youthful Horus whose recovery from assaults by Seth and his confederates serves as a pattern for healing....Direct identification with a deity is integral to Egyptian magical recitations into coptic times and it permeates the Greco-Egyptian spells by means of the untranslated native phrase anok ("I am")....[1]


Dr. Ritner also states "In most spells, cures are effected by means of direct identificaton between patient and deity either completely ("I am Horus it is not I who recites who recites but the goddess Isis") or in part....[2] in fact Horus's healing function is so important that "Horus the good doctor" a title reminding one of "Jesus The Physician" was at the center of a "popular cult" as found at the site of Kom Ombo or Ombos for instance [3] Moreover a "popular innovation" of the later New Kingdom was the antivenom stela or "cippus of Horus" used well into Roman times" [4] These small pillars were inscribed with curing spells and were "brought in contact with water subsequently drunk by the patient" [5] Regarding the healing spells Dr. Ritner remarks: ...Many treatments combine "rational" and "magical" strategies "charged" by spell and rite. In most such cases the patient is equated with the youthful Horus whose cure is sanctioned by the gods[6] 


Also Just like Jesus Horus was esteemed for resurrecting the dead especialy his father Osiris but also others including Re and the deceased in the morterary literature with the preist serving as Horus during the ritual. In CT Sp 29 it is by a "great word" made by Horus that Osiris is resurrected and akhified [7] while at PT 301:449b-450a/W 206 Horus is depicted as "he who brings Re to life everyday He refashions the King and brings the King to life every day" [8] The story of Horus resurrecting Osiris strongly resembles the much later biblicle tale of Jesus raising the dead man Lazarus a miracle surprisingly found only in the Gospel of John a book we contend is of Egyptian origin and represents Egyptian theology in significant part designed specifically to appeal to the followers of the Egyptian religion [9] 


[1] Redford 198

[2] Redford 200

[3] Redford 204

[4] Redford 208

[5] Redford 208

[6] Redford 208 

[7] Faulkner AECT I 18

[8] Faulkner AEPT 90 Allen J AEPT 55 Mercer 100

[9] For more on the subject see my books the Christ Conspiracy, Suns of God and Who was Jesus?


The reserrection of Osiris by Horus occurs in many ancient Egyptian texts and is often the primary focus  of the deceased's bid bid for immortality in like kind. A PT 606:1683a-1685b/ M 336 for example Horus is vividly described as raising Osiris from the dead and avenging him: Stand up for me father! Stand up for me Osiris N...! It is I your son: I am Horus.


I have come for you that I might clean you, cleanse you, revive you, assemble for you you bones collect for you your swimming parts and assemble for you your dismebered parts. For I am Horus who saves his father...[1] 


The reserrection miracle of Horus is also depicted elsewere in the Pyramid texts the phrase "to stand" meaning to be resurrected and "upon his side" signifying that the individual is dead. Thus in the Egyptian texts the Horus-priest frequently tells Osiris to "Stand Up" and 

"Rise Up" as part of his renewal or reserrection to life. The deceased / Osiris is also exhorted to "live" and "Raise yourself on your side!" or 'Lift thyself on thy side" etc. In Horus in the Pyramid Texts T George Allen summarizes the resurrection account rolling into one entry the events as found in seperate utterances  demonstrating how composite myths are made: 


Horus causes Osiris the King to stand. [PT 364:617a-c/T 196 PT 369:640a/T 200]


Horus and Thoth raise Osiris (the King) (from) upon his side upon his side cause him to stand among...the two divine enneads. [PT 477:956a-

c/P 327]


Horus bids Osiris the king come forth (from tomb?) and awake [PT 620:1753a-b/N 11]


Horus comes to king parts his bandages and casts off his bonds [PT 703:2202a/N 615] [2]


this description of Osiris the mummy being summoned from the tomb amid his two siblings sounds very much like an episode or pericope in the New Testament of Jesus calling forth the "mummy" Lazarus from the tomb in front of his two sisters: 



John 11:43-44

King James Version

43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.


Like Jesus at PT 268:372a-d/W 175 Horus also purifies the dead and removes evil:


Horus....purifes....him in the Jackle-lake cleanses his ka in the Dewat-lake and purifies...the flesh of his bodily ka...[3]


After the purifications it is said (PT 419:746b/T 225] that "Horus has dispelled the evil which was on you for four days[4]


[1] Allen J AEPT 226 Mercer 257 Faulkner AEPT 250 


[2] Allen T HPT 40 Mercer 124, 127, 171, 266, 318 Allen J AEPT 80, 82, 129, 242, 303 Faulkner AEPT 119, 122, 164, 257, 306,


[3] Allen T HPT 43 Mercer 90 Allen J AEPT 49 Faulkner AEPT 77 again the ka is the second material body or "double" that must be purified in order to receive the immortal ba or soul


[4] Faulkner AEPT 38 Allen T HPT 43 Mercer 142 Allen J AEPT 86


Coincidentally the time of Lazurus's period in the tomb is also four days: 


John 11:17

King James Version

Then when Jesus came, he found that he had lain in the grave four days already.



Adding to the obvious correlations between the raising of Osiris by Horus and that of Lazarus by Jesus at the scene of the Egyptian God's reserrection appear his two sisters, deemed Merta in the book of the dead [Renouf EBD 13, 85]  precisely as Lazarus' sisters Mary and Martha were present at his ressurection in BD 37 these two sister goddesses are expressed for IsIs and Nephthys with the word Merta meaning "two eyes" as in eyewtnesses as Reneouf says "Merta is the name given to the goddess pair Isis and Nephthys" [Reneouf EBD 85 Budge (BD cxiv) transliterates this term "Merti" while Birch calles them Asps (Bunsen/Birch 192) and Faulkner (104) deems them "Songstrees Snakes" 

In chapter 37 they are concidered "Terrible Sister Serpents" who need to be warded off. Dr Allen calls them "Mrty Snakes" (Allen T BD 45)]

At Coffin Text Spell 345 the Horus-priest says to the deceased "Those who wept for Osiris will weep for you on that day of the fourth day festival [Faulkner AECT I 280 in this text the aggrieved also mourn a "six day festival" CT Sp 345)] reflecting the sisters role is and ongoing ritual that must have been fairly commonly known. In PT 357:584a-c/T 146 Osiris's sisters Isis and Nepthys protect the king as Osiris and give him to Horus to reserrect [Allen T HPT 41, Faulkner AEPT 115, Mercer 120, Allen J AEPT 73] In the gospel story Mary and Martha throw themselves upon Jesus begging him to raise there brother. After Osiris is risen his two sisters say "Our brother comes to us" (PT 606: 1696a-c / M 336)[Faulkner, AEPT 251, Mercer 259, Allen J AEPT 227] Of course Mary and Martha likewise rejoice in there brother coming back to them as well.


In PT 676:2008a-2009d / N  411 a "resurrection" text we find again the deceased/Osiris being called by his two sisters: "Collect thy bones arrange thy limbs shake off thy dust untie thy bandages The Tomb is open for Thee the double doors of heaven are open for thee "Hail" says Isis "(come) in peace" says Nephthys when there brother at the feast of Atum [Mercer 298 Allen J AEPT 276 Faulkner AEPT 289] While Isis and Nephthys thus partake in a feast associated with the resurrection of Osiris after Lazarus's ressurection Jesus goes to the house of Lazarus, Mary and Martha for a feast. (Jn 12:2) Furthermore while Lazarus's sister Mary is depicted as wiping Jesus feet with her hair (Jn 11:2, 12:3 Lk 7:38) In BD 17 the deceased/Osiris Is potrayed as "found with [sister Isis's] hair spread over him [Budge TBD 54, 290 "The Osiris Ani is safely guarded. He is Isis and he is found with [her] hair spread over him." Faulkner (pl. 10) translates this passage somewhat differently with the speaker in the first person "I am Isis" such that it is her hair on herself rather than the hair of Isis on the Osiris. Allen renders it: " '[I] LET MY [HAIR] DOWN OVER MY FACE IN DISORDER SO THAT MY PARTING WAS MUSSED' means when Isis was hiding; then she wiped [her] hair." (Allen T. BD, 32.)]  BD 164 refers to "the Goddess Joined unto life with flowing hair" [Budge BD (1890), 430] 


"The House Of Osiris in Annu was called Hat-Saru the house of the prince that is the abod of Horus when he came to raise Osiris from the tomb. It was the sanctuary  of Osiris who was attended by the two Mertae or Merti, the pair of divine sisters better known by the names of Isis and Nephthys"


Gerald Massey Ancient Egypt: Light Of The World Vol II (845)



The Greek name "Lazarus" or "Lazaros" equals "Eleazar" in Hebrew and per strongs (concordance) (G2976) means "whom God helps" it is a strange coincidence that the person whom Jesus ressurects happens to be named "whom God helps." and secoundly that "Eleazar" or breaking down its original components in Hebrew El-Azar looks closely resembles a combination of the semetic word for God "El" with the Egyptian name for Osiris "Ausar" interestingly there exists an ancient phonician inscription called "The Carpentras" that does indeed identify Osiris with the Semetic god "El" or Elohim calling him "Osiris Eloh"


Murdock WWJ 234 See Heath 92 Genesis 3:21 et al       



"El Osiris in another form is L'azarus an account of whose death and resserection occur in the gospel of John where the Lord Jesus personates the central sun which restored to life El Osiris"


Albert Ross Parsons New Light From The Great Pyramid (187)



In addition el or al in arabic means "the" hence "El Azar-us would be equivalent to "the Osiris" which is in fact the frequent name used to discribe the deceased yearning to be ressurected. Verifying this fact the village in Judea where the Lazarus miracle supossedly took place Bethany today is called "EL Azarieh"


Parsons A 190 Rousseu 15 Davies W.D. 143  






Egyptian Texts                                                                                                                      


[The Osiris]... was born in Heliopolis [Annu]...[2] (PT 307:483a/W 212) [The Osiris is] annointed with the best ointment...[3] (PT 576: 1511a/P 518) Behold this King his feet are kissed by the pure waters...[4] (PT 685: 2065a / N 519) Two sisters, Isis and Nephthys, come to thee; they

hasten to the place in which thou art.[5] (PT 593: 1630a-b / M 206) "O Osiris you have gone but you will return you have slept [but you will awake] you have died but you will live.[1] (PT 670: 1975a-b/N 348) I am...the Lord of reserrections who cometh forth from the dusk and whose birth from the House of Death.[2] (BD 64)...as the mourning-women of Osiris weep for thee.[3] (PT 667a:194b/Nt 243) Isis weeps for thee Nephthys calls for thee....[4] (PT 619:1750c-1751a/M 399) The Tomb is open for thee the double doors of the coffin are undone for thee...[5] (PT 676:2009a/N 411) Flesh of [the Osiris] rot not decay not let not thy smell be bad.[6] (PT 412:722a-b/T 228) Horus has exterminated the evil in which was in [the Osiris] in his four day term...[7] (PT 419:746b/T 225) I am Horus, Osiris N., I will not let thee sicken. Come forth, awake I will avenge thee.[1] (PT 630:1753a-b/N 11) Let them who are in their graves arise let them undo their bandages.[2] (PT 662:1878/N 388) O N., live thou shalt not die. Horus comes to thee he seperates thy bandages he casts off thy bonds.[3] (PT 703:2201c-2202a/N 615)


[1] Maspero PSAE xv

[2] Mercer 105 Allen J AEPT 58 Faulkner AEPT 95

[3] Mercer 238 Allen J AEPT 182 Faulkner AEPT 231

[4] Mercer 304 Allen J AEPT 291 Faulkner AEPT 295. The "waters here are the semen of Shu and the discharge from Tefnut obviously differing from the gospel story. It should be kept in mind that the contention is not that the Christian copyists reproduced the texts identically but that they borrowed what suited them according to their more stoic Jewish backround.

[5] Mercer 250-251 Allen J AEPT 217 Faulkner AEPT 244



[1] Faulkner AEPT 285 Mercer 294 Allen J AEPT 267

[2] Renouf EBD 118 Allen T BD 56 Faulkner EBD 106 Bunsen/Birch 206

[3] Mercer 290 Allen J AEPT 325 Faulkner AEPT 281

[4] Mercer 266 Allen J AEPT 235 Faulkner AEPT 257

[5] Mercer 298 Allen J AEPT 276 Faulkner AEPT 289

[6] Mercer 139 Allen J AEPT 86 Faulkner AEPT 135

[7] Mercer 143 Allen J AEPT 86 Faulkner AEPT 138         


[1] Mercer 266 Allen J AEPT 242 Faulkner AEPT 257

[2] Mercer 280 Allen J AEPT 272 Faulkner AEPT 272

[3] Mercer 318 Allen J AEPT 303 Faulkner AEPT 306-307





Gospel of John (KJV)


John 11

King James Version

11 Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha.

2 (It was that Mary which anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was sick.)

3 Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick.



John 11:11-14

King James Version

11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.

13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.

14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.


John 11:25

King James Version

25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:



John 11:28

King James Version

28 And when she had so said, she went her way, and called Mary her sister secretly, saying, The Master is come, and calleth for thee.



John 11:33

King James Version

33 When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews also weeping which came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled.


John 11:38-39

King James Version

38 Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it.

39 Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days.




John 11:43-44

King James Version

43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.




“The process of reducing the fairy-godmother's coach-and-six to the status of a one-horse cab may be seen in the Gospel according to Luke in getting rid of Osiris. The pair of sisters, Martha and Mary, appear in this Gospel, but without their brother Lazarus, and also without the resurrection. After all that has now been done towards identifying Bethany with the house in Annu [Heliopolis] and the nest of the two sisters, the two sisters with Isis and Nephthys, and the Christ with Horus, it cannot be considered far-fetched if we look upon Lazarus as a form of the Osiris that was dead and buried and raised to life again. As to the name, the Egyptian name of the Greek Osiris is Hesar, or Asar. And when we take into consideration that some of the matter came from its Egyptian source through the Aramaic and Arabic languages (witness the Arabic Gospel of the infancy) there is little difficulty, if any, in supposing that the Al (article the) has been adopted through the medium of the Arabic, or derived from the Hebrew prenominal stem אל [AL], to emphasize a thing, as in ‘the Osiris’ [the mummy], which passed into the article Al for "the" in Arabic, and was prefixed to the name of Osiris as Al-Asar, which, with the Greek "s" for suffix becomes L-azarus. The connecting link whereby Al-Asar was turned into Lazarus, the Osiris, was in all likelihood made in the Aramaic language, which had its root-relations with the Egyptian. Hieroglyphic papyri are among its monumental remains, as well as the inscription of Carpentras.”

— Gerald Massey (1907), Ancient Egypt, the Light of the Modern World, Volume Two (pgs. 264)





“The rod that is waves by Jesus at the raising of Lazarus is the symbolic scepter in the hand of Horus when he raises the Osiris. In every instance, Lazarus is a mummy made after the Egyptian fashion. It is a bandaged body that had been soaked in salt and pitch which was at times so hot that it charred the bones. Seventy days was the proper length of time required for embalming the dead body in making an Egyptian mummy. Lazarus when portrayed in the Roman catacombs comes forth from the tomb as an eviscerated, embalmed and bandaged mummy, warranted to have been made in Egypt. Now according to the Gospel narrative, there was no time for this, as Lazarus had only been dead for four days. The mummy, anyway, is non-historical; and it is the typically mummy called the Osiris, Asar in Egyptian, El-Asar in Aramaic, and Lazarus with the Greek terminal [La-Asar-us] in the Gospel assigned to John.”

— Gerald Massey (1907), Ancient Egypt, the Light of the Modern World, Volume Two (pgs. 851-52)
Lastly for those "Obstinate heathens" clearly blinded by demonic forces who claim Horus never raised Osiris from the dead think again!
https://books.google.ca/boo... scroll down to page 403
http://highermeaning.org/Au... scroll down to "Horus Giving Life To Osiris"
"Horus was never crucified there is no records of this!" "Horus Never died I cant find anything about this so it must be a lie right?" LOL
It is important to remember here before we begin that these 3 characters in Egyptian Mythology Ra, Osiris and Horus were quite often conflated and interchangeable to the point of syncretism and indeed are frequently potrayed as 3 sepererate forms or aspects of the same Solar God and indeed as "I and the father are one" John 10:30 Osiris and his Son Horus are likewise concidered one :
"We have the form of Harpocrates at its rising, the child sun-god being generally represented by the figure of a hawk. When in human form, we notice the presence of a side lock of hair. The god Ra symbolises, it is said, the sun in his noontide strength; while for the time of sunset we have various names, chiefly Osiris, Tum, or Atmu, the dying sun represented by a mummy and typifying old age. The hours of the day were also personified, the twelve changes during the twelve hours being mythically connected with the sun’s daily movement across the sky"
Norman J. Lockyer The Dawn of Astronomy (24-25)
"…Ruling over the universe by day, the Sun was identified with Horus, the god of kingship; at sunset he was seen as Atum, the oldest of all gods. The Sun’s daily movement through the sky was viewed as a journey from birth to death, and his rebirth at dawn was made possible through Osiris, the force of new life… …In the middle of the night the Sun merged with Osiris’s body; through this union, the Sun received the power of new life while Osiris was reborn in the Sun."
Dr James P Allen The Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts (8)
Many Egyptian gods can be the sun god, especially Re, Atum, Amun, and manifestations of Horus. Even Osiris appears as the night form of the sun god in the New Kingdom. It is often not defined which particular sun god is meant in a given instance. 
Egyptologist Dr. Eric Hornung Conceptions of God in Ancient Egypt: The One and the Many (283)
The Sun has countless names, Ptah, Tmu, Ra, Horus, Khnemu, Sebek, Amen, etc.; and some of them, such as Osiris and Seker, are names of the Sun after he has set, or, in mythological language, has died and been buried…. All gods, as such, were absolutely equal in their might and in their divinity; but, mythologically, Osiris might be said to be slain by his brother Set, the personification of Night, who, in his turn, was overthrown by Horus (the rising sun), the heir of Osiris.
E.A. Wallis Budge A Guide to the First and Second Egyptian Rooms (2-3)
Pin on Walk like a Egyptian
Re Syncretized with Osiris
...Osiris rose to new life in his son, Horus...
Dr. Tryggve N.D. Mettinger Riddle of the Reserrection (192)
"One of Horus's titles was "Son of Re" so that the pharoh like Horus himself was the son of God to whom he returned after a sojourn on Earth. The myth of Horus justifies the Sacred Kingship. Horus is Osiris reborn and Osiris's resurrection as Horus represents the possibility of any individual's succeding on the traditional heroic journey into the underworld"
David Adam Leemings Creation Myths Of The World: An Encyclopedia (405)
“I am the Prince in the Field, I am Osiris. I am Horus and Ra, One with Osiris.”
 Mark Van Doren An Anthology Of World Poetry (241)
"The Egyptians believed that after the sun god had died and entered the underworld beyond the horizon in the west, he temporarily merged with Osiris. Thus Re-Osiris was imbued with new life and was able to be reborn in the morning as Horus, the son of Osiris. This reborn sun god is therefore called Re-Horakhty, “Re-Horus-of-the-horizon”."
Jacobus Van Djik Objects for Eternity: Egyptian Antiquities from the W. Arnold Meijer Collection (184)
"Horus in death becomes Osiris." 
Dr. John G. Griffiths, The Origins of Osiris and His Cult (231)
"In some accounts Horus merges with Osiris." 
Dr. Kenneth L. Campbell, Western Civilization: A Global and Comparative Approach, Volume I (20)
"Osiris was the king: he reigned and died. But there was, after all, still a living king, the son Horus. But since the king was Osiris, Horus had become Osiris." 
Dr. J. Russell Major et al., Civilization in the Western World: Ancient times to 1715 (45) 
"The interests of Horus were common with those of almost all the gods of Egypt, but there were many deities with whom he was especially associated. Besides Set, who will be discussed separately with Horus in chapter V, the chief among them was Osiris, his father. Indeed, Horus was almost identified with Osiris, for he was regarded as Osiris re-born, and Osiris-Horus was considered a form of the rising sun." 
Dr. Samuel A.B. Mercer, The Religion of Ancient Egypt (75)
BECOMING THE COUNTERPART OF OSIRIS. I indeed am Osiris, I indeed am the Lord of All, I am the Radiant One, the brother of the Radiant Lady; I am Osiris, the brother of Isis. My son Horus and his mother Isis have protected me from that foe who would harm me … I am Horus on the day of his accession.
Coffin Texts, Spell 227 III, 260-63
Now although it may be true that Horus was never "Crucified" in the sense of being violently beaten and then graphically nailed and bled to death on a crucifix there is however a motif known as "Cruciform" where various gods are potrayed as having symbolically outstretched arms in a symbolic manner Osiris/Horus being no exception.
Betrayed by Typhon: The Typhon figure is also known as Set/Seth, the god of desert and darkness who betrays his brother, Osiris, and who is depicted in the Pyramid Texts as battling with Horus, who avenges his father. In later texts, Seth is said to have sent a snake or scorpion to sting and kill Horus, as on the Metternich Stela89 (c. 380-342 BCE) and other such “cippi” or magical stele.
Recounting another myth in which Horus is drowned, Diodorus (Antiquities of Egypt, 1.25.6) describes the god’s raising or resurrection by Isis, using the same term, anastasis, later employed to describe Jesus’s resurrection: Isis also discovered the elixir of immortality, and when her son Horus fell victim to the plots of the Titans and was found dead beneath the waves, she not only raised him from the dead and restored his soul, but also gave him eternal life.[90] 
The similarity of the Osiris-Set conflict with that of the Jesus-Satan battle is highlighted by historian Dr. Philip Van Ness Myers:
The god Seth, called Typhon by the Greek writers, was the Satan of later Egyptian mythology. He was the personification of the evil in the world, just as Osiris was the personification of the good.[91] 
For more on the contention between Horus and Set, see Christ in Egypt, pp. 67-78.
Horus Crucified: The “crucifixion” of Horus is misunderstood because many erroneously assume that the term denotes a direct resemblance to the crucifixion narrative of Jesus Christ. Hence, it is critical to point out that we are dealing with metaphors here, not “history,” as the “crucifixions” of both Horus and Jesus are improvable events historically.
The issue at hand is not a man being thrown to the ground and nailed to a cross, as Jesus is depicted to have been, but the portrayal of gods and goddesses in “cruciform,” whereby the divine figure appears with arms outstretched in a symbolic context. The word “crucify” comes from the Latin crucifigere, composed of cruci/crux and affigere/figere, meaning “cross” and “to fix/affix,” respectively. Thus, it does not necessarily mean to throw a living person to the ground and nail him or her to a cross, but could signify any image affixed to a cross-shape or in cruciform. This symbolic imagery of a person on a cross or in cross-shape was fairly common in the Pagan world, concerning many gods, goddesses and other figures.
First of all, the cross was a very ancient pre-Christian symbol that often designated the sun. Regarding the cross, the Catholic Encyclopedia (“Cross and the Crucifix”) states:
The sign of the cross, represented in its simplest form by a crossing of two lines at right angles, greatly antedates, in both the East and the West, the introduction of Christianity. It goes back to a very remote period of human civilization....
...It is also...a symbol of the sun...and seems to denote its daily rotation.... Cruciform objects have been found in Assyria. Shari people in Egypt wearing crucifixes around their necks. The statutes of Kings Asurnazirpal and Sansirauman, now in the British Museum, have cruciform jewels about the neck.... Cruciform earrings were found by Father Delattre in Punic tombs at Carthage.
Another symbol which has been connected with the cross is the ansated cross (ankh or crux ansata) of the ancient Egyptians.... From the earliest times also it appears among the hieroglyphic signs symbolic of life or of the living... perhaps it was originally, like the swastika, an astronomical sign. The ansated cross is found on many and various monuments of Egypt.... In
[90] Diodorus/Murphy, 31. See also Murdock, CIE, 388.
[91] Van Ness Myers, 38.
later times the Egyptian Christians (Copts), attracted by its form, and perhaps by its symbolism, adopted it as the emblem of the cross...[92]
Fortunately, many ancient artifacts survive that demonstrate the antiquity not only of the cross but also of a human figure in the shape of a cross or in cruciform.
Pre-Christian Gods on Crosses or in Cruciform                Was Horus “Crucified?” – Stellar House Publishing         File:Original Coptic cross.svg - Wikipedia
These pre-Christian or non-Christian gods on a cross were evidently what was being discussed around 150 AD/CE by Church father Justin Martyr (First Apology, 21):
And when we say also that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter.[93]
The “sons of Jupiter” are Greco-Roman gods, and Justin claims Christians are “propounding nothing different” than what the Pagans said about their gods. The suggestion that other gods were “crucified” by being put in a cross shape or cruciform is confirmed by early Christian writer Minucius Felix in his Octavius (29):
For in that you attribute to our religion the worship of a criminal and his cross, you wander far from the neighbourhood of the truth, in thinking either that a criminal deserved, or that any earthly being was able, to be believed God…. Crosses, moreover, we neither worship nor wish for. You, indeed, who consecrate gods of wood, adore wooden crosses perhaps as parts of your gods. For your very standards, as well as your banners, and flags of your camp, what else are they but crosses gilded and adorned? Your victorious trophies not only imitate the appearance of a simple cross, but also that of a man affixed to it.[94]
Counted among these “sons of Jupiter” depicted in cruciform may be the Greek god Prometheus, who was portrayed both in ancient writings and in pre-Christian artifacts as being bound to a cross or in cruciform. As related by the Catholic Encyclopedia:
...On an ancient vase we see Prometheus bound to a beam which serves the purpose of a cross.... In the same way the rock to which Andromeda was fastened is called crux, or cross....[95]
[92] Catholic Encyclopedia, vol. 4, p. 517-518. [
93] Roberts, A., ANF, I, 170.
[94] Roberts, A., ANF, IV, 191.
[95] CE, vol. 4, 519.
Heracles & Prometheus - Ancient Greek Vase Painting                                                 Was Horus “Crucified?” – Stellar House Publishing
Regarding the Egyptian god in cruciform, Thomas W. Doane relates: Osiris, the Egyptian Saviour, was crucified in the heavens. To the Egyptian the cross was the symbol of immortality, an emblem of the Sun, and the god himself was crucified to the tree, which denoted his fructifying power. Horus was also crucified in the heavens. He was represented, like... Christ Jesus, with outstretched arms in the vault of heaven.[96]
Horus with his arms outstretched making the sign of the cross
On a side note another "Demon" has made note of this image of Horus in cruciform and tried to refute it by pointing out it is upside down as if by accident or done delibrately to fool readers 😱😱 😱 http://www.bible-apologetics.com/articles/an125.htm
As we can clearly see It was done intentionally to further emphasis a point not by accident or to fool people has he/she not "read the scriptures"....The "Obstinancy" and "Devilry" never end do they LOL......
This concept of Horus with outstretched arms or wings is confirmed by Egyptologist Dr. Hornung: Horus shows himself in the image of the hawk whose wings span the sky…[97]
Horus is also evidently linked with what some scholars would call his “Gnostic Counterpart”: a figure known as “Horos-Stauros,” a title in Greek meaning “Boundary-Cross,” the latter word stauros being the exact term used in the New Testament to describe Jesus’s cross. (E.g., Mt 27:32; Mk 15:30; Jn 19:19)
For more on Horus as the “Horos-Stauros” and in cruciform, see the 40-page chapter “Was Horus ‘Crucified?’” in Murdock’s Christ in Egypt and online article “Was Horus Crucified?” Osiris too, it should be noted, was identified with the cross—the Egyptian ankh, which itself looks like a person in cruciform—and depicted as a crosslike djed pillar, surrounded by his two sisters, the Merti.
[96] Doane, 484.
[97] Hornung, CGAE, 124.
The sacred symbol of the Djed pillar | Ancient Origins                         Mary Mother Of Jesus Departs After The Crucifixion | Family Tomb of Jesus
Buried for three days: In the myth, both Osiris and Horus die and are resurrected, with Horus becoming the risen Osiris. As stated in The Riddle of Resurrection by professor of Old Testament Studies at the University of Lund, Dr. Tryggve N.D. Mettinger: The death and resurrection of Osiris are the most central features of [the Khoiak/Koiak] festival.[98]
Dr. Mettinger also states:
...Osiris rose to new life in his son, Horus...[99]
The period between Osiris’s death and resurrection varies, depending on the myth. For example, as “the Osiris”/deceased in the Egyptian funeral texts, as well as the nightly sun, he dies and resurrects on a daily basis. The annual death-and-resurrection period, however, is commonly depicted as three days, as related by Rev. Dr. Alfred Bertholet, a theologian and professor at the University of Göttingen. In an article entitled, “The Pre-Christian Belief in the Resurrection of the Body,” published in The American Journal of Theology by the University of Chicago Press, Dr. Bertholet remarks:
According to the faith of later times, Osiris was three days and three nights in the waters before he was restored to life again.[100]
Dr. Jaime A. Ezquerra concurs: “Three days separated Christ’s death from his resurrection, reckoning inclusively, as in the case of Osiris.”
The three-day period and resurrection are recorded by Plutarch (39, 366D-E) as occurring on the 17th , 18th and 19th of the month Athyr (Hathor), until “Osiris is found.” [101] In the funerary literature (e.g., PT 670/N 348), Osiris is called forth by Horus on the fourth day.[102]
It is useful to reiterate here that Horus and Osiris are often interchangeable and, indeed, in his resurrection Osiris becomes Horus.
The theme of resurrection from the dead and “raising up” in three days is present in the Old Testament as well, at
[98] Mettinger, 182.
[99] Mettinger, 172.
[100] Bertholet, 5.
[101] Plutarch/Babbitt, 95-97.
[102] Murdock, CIE, 400. For more information on the “Burial for Three Days, Resurrection and Ascension,” see Christ in Egypt, 376-430.
Hosea 6:2:30 After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will raise us up, that we may live before him. As Mettinger also says: The idea of a three-days span of time between death and return, a triduum, seems to be at hand in Hosea 6:2 in a context where the imagery ultimately draws upon Canaanite ideas of resurrection… Apart from Hosea 6:2 one should remember also Jonah 2:1…where Jonah is in the belly of the fish three days and three nights. I understand the belly of the fish as a metaphor for the Netherworld.[103]
In this regard, it should also be noted that where the fish’s belly is the “netherworld,” Jonah would thus be a sun god.[104] Logic tells us that the story of Jonah and the Whale could not be “history”; hence, it must be mythical, in whole or in part. But what does this patently mythical periscope mean? It is about the sun entering into the “abyss” of the “Leviathan,” i.e., the dark cave or tomb of night. Concerning this myth, Catholic scholar Dr. Botterweck states:
...In a sun myth the sun is swallowed up by the western part of the sea and then rises again. This myth is "historicized and re-neutralized in Jonah, as...Jonah replaces the sun and the 'great fish' plays the role of the sea." On the other hand, the period of time Jonah stayed in the belly of the fish suggests a moon myth, and calls to mind, among other things, Inanna's descent into the underworld...[105]
Yet, Jesus is compared to Jonah at Matthew 12:40, essentially equating him with a solar myth.
Moreover, it was said that Osiris’s Greek counterpart Dionysus or Bacchus “slept three nights with Proserpine [Persephone],”[106] evidently referring to the god’s journey into the underworld to visit his mother. One major astrotheological meaning of this motif is the sun’s entrance into the cave (womb) of the world at the winter solstice.
As will be described in a later section, the three-day death-and-resurrection theme in a number of myths is symbolic of the “death” and “return” of the sun at the winter solstice each year.
Resurrected: We have already seen the evidence that both Osiris and Horus were resurrected from the dead. Again, as concerns Horus’s resurrection, Diodorus remarks:
Isis also discovered the elixir of immortality, and when her son Horus fell victim to the plots of the Titans and was found dead beneath the waves, she not only raised him from the dead and restored his soul, but also gave him eternal life.[107]
Regarding the meaning of this resurrection theme, Dr. Herman te Velde, a chairman of the Department of Egyptology at the University of Groningen, states:
As Re [Ra] who manifests himself in the sun goes to rest in the evening and awakes from the sleep of death in the morning, so do the death and resurrection of Osiris seem to be equally inevitable and natural.[108]
In this regard, the pharaoh is the “living Horus,” until he dies, at which point he becomes “the Osiris,” who is then resurrected to eternal life—and as his son, Horus, the morning sun. This cycle is repeated constantly in the Egyptian texts. Indeed, concerning Osiris, James Bonwick remarks:
His birth, death, burial, resurrection and ascension embraced the leading points of Egyptian theology.[109]
Again, for more on this subject, including the meaning and location of Osiris’s resurrection, see the 54- page chapter “Burial for Three Days, Resurrection and Ascension” in Christ in Egypt. [103] Mettinger, 214. 104 See, e.g., Acharya, SOG, 460, etc.
[105] Botterweck, III, 138.
[106] Classical Journal, 92.
[107] Diodorus/Murphy, 31.
[108] te Velde, 81.
[109] Bonwick, 150.
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....And yet still we here from "Demonic Entities" such as Lucas Kitchen ("lucasanswers") Doing Blasphemus deeds and spewing villainous propaganda! 😱
Umm you do realize were talking about astrological allegories right? not literal people with genetalia who actually fuck each other? Also did you not read "Scripture" Coffin text SP 148? or forget about Neith the Isis of Sais? and what about those Pastors and Preists Johannes G Botterweck, Bojana Mojsov, Bob Becker, Reginald E Witt, Joseph Campbell, James Curl and all the other sources I busted my ass off citeing to defend the faith from your villainous semen? Also did you not read our Church Reverand Dimitri Meeks statement that Osiris died before he could consummate his marraige to Isis? (Thanks to Reverands Acharya S and D.N. Boswell for the info by the way.)
I guess we should forget all about Macrobius and Plutarch then....
Horus born of a virgin at the winter solstice
Fig. 66: Horus takes the 12 enemies of his father Osiris to the Lake of Fire; based on the 9th Hour of the Book of Gates as seen in tombs of Ramesses V & VI, KV9, 12th century BCE.
Fig. 68: Horus commands the 12 gods who surround the shrine of Osiris; based on the 4th Hour of the Book of Gates, as seen in the tomb of Ramesses I, KV16, 13th century BCE.
Fig. 69: The twelve followers of Osiris are resurrected by the Sungod; based on the 6th Hour of the Book of Gates as seen in the tomb of Seti I, KV17, 13th century BCE.
Fig. 69: The twelve followers of Osiris are bodily resurrected by the Sungod (just as Osiris & Horus were); based on the 6th Hour of the Book of Gates as seen in the tomb of Seti I, KV17, 13th century BCE.
“He inspects a long bier, shaped like a serpent named Nehep, with twelve mummies lying on it.”- Dr. Erik Hornung.[10]
Followers of Osiris, the sleeping ones who are in a state of weariness. Duati says to them: «O gods in the Duat, Followers of the Ruler of the West, who are stretched out on their side, lying on their biers- May your flesh rise up, may your bones be put together, may you embrace your limbs, may your flesh be united! Sweet breath for your noses, loosening for your mummy-wrappings, uncovering for your headclothes! Light be for your divine eyes, that you may see the light through them. Raise yourself from your weariness.»
Fig. 70: The twelve followers of Osiris & Re, from the Book of the Dead as seen in the Papyrus of Ani, 13th century BCE.




Well you heard the villainous blashemer to our mythicst faith Horus did not raise Osiris fro-


Horus with the ankh/cross raising Osiris

              Oh Shit....






Well you heard the little fucker Horus never di-



“Isis also discovered the elixir of immortality, and when her son Horus fell victim to the plots of the Titans and was found dead beneath the waves, she not only raised him from the dead and restored his soul, but also gave him eternal life.” 


Diodorus Siculus Antiquities Of Egypt (31)



Also keeping in mind that Ra/Osiris/Horus are the same God...



“According to the faith of later times, Osiris was three days and three nights in the water before he was restored to life again.” 


Alfred Bertholet the Pre Christian Belief in the

Resurrection Of The Body (5)



“Typhon, having secretly measured Osiris’s body and having made ready a beautiful chest of corresponding size artistically ornamented, caused it to be brought into the room where the festivity was in progress. The company was much pleased at the sight of it and admired it greatly, whereupon Typhon jestingly promised to present it to the man who should find the chest to be exactly his length when he lay down in it. They all tried it in turn, but no one fitted it; then Osiris got into it and lay down, and those who were in the plot ran to it and slammed down the lid, which they fastened by nails from the outside and also by using molten lead. Then they carried the chest to the river and sent it on its way to the sea through the Tanitic Mouth. Wherefore the Egyptians even to this day name this mouth the hateful and execrable. Such is the tradition. They say also that the date on which this deed was done was the seventeenth day of Athyr, when the sun passes through Scorpion, and in the twenty-eighth year of the reign of Osiris; but some say that these are the years of his life and not of his reign.” 

(Plutarch, Isis and Osiris, 13)


“The story told of the shutting up of Osiris in the chest seems to mean nothing else than the vanishing and disappearance of water. Consequently they say that the disappearance of Osiris occurred in the month of Athyr, at the time when, owing to the complete cessation of the Etesian winds, the Nile recedes to its low level and the land becomes denuded. As the nights grow longer, the darkness increases, and the potency of the light is abated and subdued. Then among the gloomy rites which the priests perform, they shroud the gilded image of a cow with a black linen vestment, and display her as a sign of mourning for the goddess, inasmuch as they regard both the cow and the earth as the image of Isis; and this is kept up for four days consecutively, beginning with the seventeenth of the month. ... On the nineteenth day they go down to the sea at night-time; and the keepers of the robes and the priests bring forth the sacred chest containing a small golden coffer, into which they pour some potable water which they have taken up, and a great shout arises from the company for joy that Osiris is found. Then they knead some fertile soil with the water and mix in spices and incense of a very costly sort, and fashion therefrom a crescent-shaped figure, which they clothe and adorn, thus indicating that they regard these gods as the substance of Earth and Water.” (Plutarch, Isis and Osiris, 39).


So as we can see Osiris was dead for 3 days before being resurrected and couple this little tidbit together with the realization that Ra and Horus are both the same as Osiris and thus both Ra and Horus would have also been concidered "dead for three days" before "reserrecting" and

flying off to La La land! 


Ignoring the "Cruciform" symbolism for a moment male Egyptian rulers were believed to be incarnations of Horus and one such ruler Inaros II was "betrayed" into persian hands and was impaled to death and impalement although not being roman crucifixion is none the less one of the earliest forms of crucifixion in human history. So thus Inaros II a form of Horus was Impaled and Impalement is an early form of Crucifixion meaning Horus would have been concidered by that times standards to have been "Crucifed"  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inaros_II



Ra had a death and resurrection in the form of being swallowed by Nut/Neith "Virgin Queen of Heaven" every night and would be "reborn" every morning.



Osiris was betrayed by The Devil (Set/Apep) and was murdered before the Virgin Isis-Meri repieced him together again on the "third day"

and despite frantic attempts by demon posessed heathens to deny this fact by claiming he remained in the world of the dead and therefore couldn't be ressurected Atheist Pastor Derreck Bennet a self proclaimed "Godless Bastard" did and excellant defence of our faith on this issue:








Even the "Fallen Angel Lucifer" (Carrier) our greatest enemy did a detailed rebuttle of Habermas Heathenry:



Not only does Plutarch say Osiris returned to life and was recreated, exact terms for resurrection (anabiôsis and paliggenesia: On Isis and Osiris 35; see my discussion in The Empty Tomb, pp. 154-55), and also describe his physically returning to earth after his death (Plutarch, On Isis and Osiris 19), but the physical resurrection of Osiris’s corpse is explicitly described in pre-Christian pyramid inscriptions! Plutarch writes that “Osiris came to Horus from the other world and exercised and trained him for the battle,” and taught him lessons, and then “Osiris consorted with Isis after his death and she became the mother of Harpocrates.” It’s hard to get more explicit than that. Contrary to Ehrman, there is no mention of Osiris not being in his resurrected body at that point. To the contrary, every version of his myth has him revive only after Isis reassembles and reanimates his corpse. As Plutarch says, “the soul of Osiris is everlasting and imperishable, but his body Typhon oftentimes dismembers and causes to disappear, and that Isis wanders hither and yon in her search for it, and fits it together again” (On Isis and Osiris 54). And indeed, carved on the walls of the pyramids centuries before Christianity began were the declarations of the goddess Isis (or Horus, or their agents), “I have come to thee…that I may revivify thee, that I may assemble for thee thy bones, that I may collect for thee thy flesh, that I may assemble for thee thy dismembered limbs…raise thyself up, king, [as for] Osiris; thou livest!” (Pyramid Texts 1684a-1685a and 1700, = Utterance 606; cf. Utterance 670); “Raise thyself up; shake off thy dust; remove the dirt which is on thy face; loose thy bandages!” (Pyramid Texts 1363a-b, = Utterance 553); “[As for] Osiris, collect thy bones; arrange thy limbs; shake off thy dust; untie thy bandages; the tomb is open for thee; the double doors of the coffin are undone for thee; the double doors of heaven are open for thee…thy soul is in thy body…raise thyself up!” (Pyramid Texts 207b-209a and 2010b-2011a, = Utterance 676). That sure sounds like a physical resurrection of Osiris’s body to me. (As even confirmed by the most recent translation of James P. Allen, cf. pp. 190, 224-25, 272. The spells he clarifies are sung to and about the resident Pharaoh, but in the role of Osiris, receiving the same resurrection as Osiris, e.g. “there has been done for me what was done for my father Osiris on the day of tying bones together, of making functional the feet,” “do for him that which you did for his brother Osiris on the day,” etc.) Plutarch goes on to explicitly state that this resurrection on earth (set in actual earth history) in the same body he died in (reassembled and restored to life) was the popular belief, promoted in allegorical tales by the priesthood—as was also the god’s later descent to rule Hades. But the secret “true” belief taught among the initiated priesthood was that Osiris becomes incarnate, dies, and rises back to life every year in a secret cosmic battle in the sublunar heavens. So in fact, contrary to Ehrman (who evidently never actually read any of the sources on this point), Plutarch says the belief that Osiris went to Hades was false (On Isis and Osiris 78); and yet even in that “public” tale, Osiris rules in Hades in his old body of flesh, restored to life. Hence still plainly resurrected. But as Plutarch explains (On Isis and Osiris 25-27 & 54 and 58), the esoteric truth was that the god’s death and resurrection occurs in sublunar space, after each year descending and taking on a mortal body to die in; and that event definitely involved coming back to life in a new superior body, in which Osiris ascends to a higher realm to rule from above, all exactly as was said of the risen Jesus (who no more remained on earth than Osiris did). The only difference is that when importing this into Judaism, which had not a cyclical-eternal but a linear-apocalyptic conception of theological history, they converted the god’s dying-and-rising to a singular apocalyptic event. And that’s just Osiris. Clearly raised from the dead in his original, deceased body, restored to life; visiting people on earth in his risen body; and then ruling from heaven above. And that directly adjacent to Judea, amidst a major Jewish population in Alexandria, and popular across the whole empire. But as Plutarch said in On the E at Delphi 9, many religions of his day “narrate deaths and vanishings, followed by returns to life and resurrections.” Not just that one. Plutarch names Dionysus as but an example (and by other names “Zagreus, Nyctelius, and Isodaetes“). And we know for a fact this Dionysus wasn’t the only example Plutarch would have known. Plutarch only names him because he was so closely associated with Osiris, and the most famous.





And Lastly Horus as we have seen from Diodorus of Sicily was found dead beneath the waves after Set/Typhon murdered him and Isis resurrected him and gave him eternal life.




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A few more Parallels before we move on it has been erroneously claimed that Geb is not the earthly father of Horus and is the father of Osiris in some accounts and that it must be a mashup of these details and also that Seb does not translate to Joseph...



He had an earthly father named Seb, which translates to Joseph


  • In Egyptian mythology, Seb is God of the Earth and is never said to be the father of Horus.
  • Seb was Osiris’ father in some accounts, so there may be some mash up of these two facts.
  • Seb doesn’t translate to Joseph and is better translated as Geb.


This is false as even Wikipedia admits that Horus The Elder is sometimes the 5th child of Geb and Nut/Neith the Virgin Queen Of heaven instead of the child of Osiris and Isis-Meri as he is usually potrayed and again as we have seen Osiris and Horus were often interchangable to the point of syncretism with Horus being the newly reborn form of Osiris.



Jesus, Son of Joseph, and Horus, Son of Seb

by D.M. Murdock/Acharya S

Is the earthly father of Jesus, Joseph, a remake of Seb, the earth-god father of the Egyptian god Horus? In my books The Christ ConspiracySuns of God and Christ in Egypt, I briefly discuss the parallels between the fathers of the Judeo-Christian godman Jesus and the Egyptian god Horus. When this comparison is put into context with the rest of the numerous, detailed similarities between Christianity and the Egyptian religion – as addressed especially in Christ in Egypt – this particular point is not only noteworthy but also logical to raise.

Horus the Elder Haroeris

To begin with, it is important to note that there are a number of Horuses within Egyptian mythology, the fathers of whom differ from one another. For example, Horus the Child is the son of the god Osiris and the goddess Isis. But Horus the Elder, also called Haroeris, is the brother of Osiris, both of whom are the sons of the earth god Seb, Keb or Geb. Hence, it is Horus the Elder who is the “Son of Seb,” as Jesus is “Son of Joseph.”

The mythical motif of Geb/Seb being the father of Horus is demonstrated in chapter 29A of the Egyptian Book of the Dead:

“…I am Horus, who is in hearts… I may be in the body of my father Geb and of my mother Nut….” (Faulkner, 103).

Geb/Seb is also called the “father of the gods,” as are other Egyptian gods such as Kneph/Khnum and Ptah. (Wilkinson, 62; Fallows, 416)

Moreover, while Horus’s father Seb is the earth god, Joseph is the earthly father of Jesus. This apparent correlation between Christianity and the Egyptian religion includes the observation that there is an obvious similarity between the names of the fathers, Joseph broken down into “Io-seph,” while “Seb” can be transliterated as “Sev,” essentially the same as “Seph.” In addition, both Seb and Joseph may be said to be “artificers,” “craftsmen” or “carpenters.”

Nut Shu Geb Seb image

The sky goddess Nut bending over the earth god Geb/Seb, with the wind/air god Shu in between holding the crosses of eternal life

Seb or Geb?

The god Seb has also been called “Keb” and “Geb,” although “Seb” was the most popularly accepted form for several decades. While some modern sources identify the “Seb” name as an “error,” others maintain it as an alternative, including Turner and Coulter’s Dictionary of Ancient Deities (p. 189). Indeed, on p. 4 of the Dictionary, “Seb” is included in a list of gods “in the Second Corridor of the Tomb of Seti.”

jean-francois champollion

The identification of the god Seb can be found at least as early as the time of famed French linguist Jean-François Champollion (1790-1832), who, along with Dr. Thomas Young, was responsible for translating the Rosetta Stone and cracking open the Egyptian hieroglyphs. In 1824, Champollion published his Précis du système hiéroglyphique des anciens Égyptiens, in which he referred to “le dieu Seb ou Scheb” under an entry for the Coptic word CB or cyb, pronounced with an initial “s” sound. Champollion also refers to Seb on several other occasions.

Another early, English reference to “Seb” can be found in Dr. Samuel Birch’s Egyptian Dictionary, contained in the fifth volume of Dr. Baron Bunsen’s Egypt’s Place in Universal History (1848). On p. 212, Birch – a renowned Egyptologist of his time – translates the Egyptian Book of the Dead chapter or spell 68 as:

“The Gates of heaven open. The Gates of earth open to me. Seb has opened the bolts, he has opened the chief or the lower abode wide. The Osiris comes…. He prevails over his heart, he prevails over his hand, he prevails over the meals, over the waters, he prevails over the streams, he prevails over the pools, he prevails over everything done against him in Hades, he prevails over what he has been ordered to do upon earth. The Osiris is born like a word. He lives, then it is off the bread of Seb…” (See also Faulkner, 107)

Concerning this chapter, Gerald Massey remarks, “Half the history of the Christ on earth is contained in this passage.” (Massey, NG, II, 408.)

Egyptian god Seb, Geb or Keb with goose on his head

Furthermore, Egyptologist Sir Peter le Page-Renouf went into great depth in analyzing the name “Seb,” saying that it was, “rather, sbu,” which, according to this renowned scholar, “had from the earliest times different meanings”. (Proceedings of the Society of Biblical Archaeology, VII, 152) Renouf also says: “Seb, as the name of a goose, signifies ‘the whistler’ or ‘piper.’… sba, is a pipe, reed, or tube.” He further raises up the Latin word sib-ilu-s and the Greek siphon, confirming that the Egyptian word is seb.

In the same scholarly journal (PSBA, VII, 93), another respected Egyptologist, Dr. Edouard Naville, likewise refers to the god as “Seb.” One of the most famous Egyptologists of all time, Sir Dr. E.A. Wallis Budge, also provides in the same journal (122) a transliteration of a text that includes a reference to “Seb,” with an “s.”

This supposed “error” is repeated by European and American scholars across the board up through at least the time of Sir James George Frazer (1854-1941), who also acknowledged the transliteration as “keb.” It is difficult to imagine all of these many scholars continuing to repeat such a basic blunder for several decades with no one noticing, especially with such etymological discourses as above. If this longstanding transliteration was indeed an error, repeated by dozens or hundreds of Egyptologists for over a century, this episode – among many others – would cast serious doubt upon the “peer-review” process as an infallible guarantee of worthwhile scholarship.

The push toward this purported “new reading” of “Geb” or “Keb” apparently originated with the emininent Egyptologist Dr. Heinrich Brugsch, around 1887. However, Renouf subsequently addressed this development, insisting that “Seb” was perfectly correct. Renouf remarks:

“The fact that the name of Seb was often written Keb in the last periods of hieroglyphic writing is no new discovery.” (PSBA, IX, 83)

Renouf notes that Champollion had discussed the subject decades earlier, remarking that the “Egyptian Saturn” took the name of “Sev” or “Siv,” as well as that of “Keb” or “Kev.” Next Renouf comments, “The first point I must insist upon is that the old orthodox reading, Seb…is not an erroneous one,” and he demonstrates that the ancient Egyptian spelling of the Roman words “sebastos” and “sebasta” used the same hieroglyphs as the god’s name. (PSBA, IX, p. 83.) Renouf gives many other reasons for maintaining the “s” sound for this hieroglyphic combination, including Assyrian, Greek and Coptic inscriptions. (84) He also provides several other Egyptian inscriptions and words that clearly use the goose hieroglyph in Seb’s name as an “s” sound. Says Renouf:

Renouf concludes:

“It is not probable that any of the facts quoted will be disputed, but it is very important to show that Egyptologists have not been mistaken for the last fifty years in assigning a sibilant sound to the two signs which are used interchangeably in writing the name of the god, but that they rely upon a mass of evidence from the best time of Egyptian writing down to the latest.” (85)

He next says: “The value seb is then absolutely certain…” (88) He raises the issue of the letter “c” having both the “s” and “k” sounds, as a possible similar solution to the problem of “seb” and “keb,” which has since become standardly translitered as “geb” or “gb.” The Egyptologist then asserts that “keb” is in actuality “wrongly written.” Further on, Renouf remarks, “Geb cannot possibly be the right name of an Egyptian god.” (95)

In addition to the other Egyptian and non-Egyptian evidence cited above, if the ancient Egyptians specifically used the same hieroglyphs in the god’s name to spell out Latin words that began with the sound “seb,” the issue is settled: At some point in ancient times, the god of the earth was known as “Seb.” In this latter case concerning the Latin inscriptions, it appears that “Seb” was in currency around the time Christianity was beginning to be formulated.

Budge (GE, II, 94) says of Brugsch’s thrust to change “Seb” to “Geb” or “Keb” that “in very early times this undoubtedly seems to have been the correct form of the god’s name.” Nevertheless, Budge continues to describe the god as “seb,” this term being a name of a “peculiar species” of goose. Budge also says that Seb “plays a very important part in the Book of the Dead.”

Geb Seb Egyptian God hieroglyph image

The bird symbol in the common hieroglyphic combination for “Seb” is number G39 in what is called “Gardiner’s Sign List.” Ancient Egypt Online lists glyph G39 as a “duck” and says it is pronounced “sA.” Gardiner’s G38 – a goose – is also listed as being used in the god’s name and pronounced “gb.” The same hieroglyph with the “duck” (G39) is shown by Budge in the Egyptian Book of the Dead, chapter 82 (172). Earlier in the same spell, Budge shows G39 as “smen,” which he translates as “goose.” Egyptologist Dr. Raymond O. Faulkner translates the same hieroglyph at the beginning of spell 82 as “goose” and later when it also appears in the god’s name, he renders it “Geb.” (Faulkner, pl. 27) The fact that G39 is used in this spell would make one think that god’s name must be “Seb” and G39 a “goose,” rather than a “duck.”

In the final analysis, it is evident that the alternates for Seb are not newly known and that “Seb” is not an error but a variant that dates to antiquity and was used to describe the father of Horus.

Seb is Joseph?

The Hebrew word for Joseph is translitered as Yowceph, a fact that demonstrates the interchangeability of the letters “s” and “c.” “Yowceph” or “Joseph” is defined by Strong’s (H3130) as “Jehovah has added.” It is said to be the “future” of the primitive root “yacaph,” which means “to add.” However, if “Joseph” means “Jehovah has added,” the “Jo” or “Io,” would refer to Jehovah, Yahweh or Yah, while “seph,” “ceph,” “caph” or “saf” would be a separate term. Another example of this development would be the Hebrew word “Yehoshua,” also transliterated as “Joshua” and rendered in Greek “Jesus,” serving as a combination of the Hebrew words for God, “Yahweh,” and for “salvation.”

In Christ in Egypt, I wondered if, as the Egyptian god Set’s name is also translitered as “Seth,” “Seb” could be rendered at some point as “Sebh” or “Seph.” As we have seen, “Seb” has also been transliterated as “Sev” and “Siv,” essentially as in “Io-Sef” or “Jo-seph.” Also, “Joseph” is sometimes spelled “Josip,” “Iosip” or “Yosep,” which again reveals a possible connection to “Seb.”

Adding to this analysis of the “Seb,” “Sev” or “Seph” figure in Egyptian mythology is the moniker “Osar-seph” or “Osarsiph” as a “priest of Osiris-Seph” and, per the Jewish historian Josephus (Against Apion, I, 31; Whiston, 620), another name for Moses. According to Assyriologist Rev. Dr. A.H. Sayce, Osar-Seph is the same as Joseph, rather than Moses (The Academy, XXIV, 163). In consideration of the fact that the Talmud calls Joseph/Iosef “Serapis” (Tract Abuda Zara; Rodkinson, 86), the Egyptian god who is a combination of Osiris and the Apis bull, this conclusion appears sound.

joseph in Egypt

In view of all the cultural exchange between Egypt and Canaan/Israel, including many Egyptian religious concepts and mythical motifs finding their way into the Old Testament and Judaism – as well as the sojourn of the patriarch Joseph in Egypt, according to the Bible (Gen 39:1ff) – it is logical to suggest there is a relationship between these words Seb/Sev and Joseph/Iosef. In any event, along with the apparent similarity of names, the two father-figures possess other suggestive characteristics in common, such as their occupation or role.

Seb as “Carpenter?”

Christian tradition holds that both Jesus and his father were “carpenters” (Mt 13:55, Mk 6:3). It is important to note that the Greek word in the New Testament for “carpenter,” τέκτων or tekton, means not only “carpenter” but also “builder” and “any craftsman, or workman,” including in “the art of poetry” or as a “maker of songs.” It also means “planner, contriver, plotter” as well as “an author” (Strong’s G5045). Interestingly, in modern Greek tekton means “freemason” (Collin’s Contemporary Greek Dictionary, 168, 311; Oxford Dictionary of Modern Greek, 189).

The word tekton in the Old Testament, as at Isaiah 44:12, is translated as “smith,” “blacksmith” or “ironsmith,” whereas “carpenter” is a tekton xulon, a “wood craftsman” or “wood-carver,” as at Is 44:13. At Isaiah 40:19, tekton is also used to describe a worker of precious metals, while at Is 40:20 the word is rendered “workman” or “craftsman.” The Hebrew word translated as tekton is חרש or charash, which means “craftsman, artisan, engraver, graver, artificer” (Strong’s H2796), as well as “smith,” “carpenter” and “mason.” (Gesenius’s Lexicon)

Thus, Jesus and Joseph are not necessarily “carpenters” but could be any of these other artificers as well. Indeed, in non-canonical Christian tradition Jesus was represented as a dyer of fabrics as well as a potter or clayworker and a painter. (First Infancy Gospel, XV, 6, 13; see Is 64:8) As the Lord, Christ is held to be the “Great Architect of the Universe” (Parsons, 3), the word “architect” (αρχιτέκτωνobviously related to tekton, while the Old Testament God himself is also a “potter.” (Is 64:8)

The Egyptian creator god Ptah is likewise the “Great Architect of the Universe,” called the “Master Craftsman” as well. (Smith, 36) As Egyptologist Dr. Siegfried Morenz states, in a section entitled, “The Creator-god as craftsman” (p. 161):

“Ptah…was depicted as an artisan or more precisely as a smith and metal-worker….”

Morenz also discusses the god Kneph/Khnum as the Potter, who fashions living creatures, and calls him “a craftsman.” He furthers addresses Geb as a “procreator” god (162).

Ptah Great Architect Artificer Master Craftsman Creator

Ptah is also the “Great Artificer,” who “shapes the sun- and moon-eggs on his potter’s wheel.” (Budge, GE, I, 501; Hastings, 145) Ptah thus could have been styled tekton, if described in Greek.

This master craftsman Ptah was thought to have been an egg issuing from Seb or Geb is the “Cackler,” as the hieroglyph for the god’s name is a goose. (Mackenzie, 81) As his “son” Ptah fashioned the sun-egg, it was perceived that Seb the Cackler also laid the “golden egg” of the sun each day. (PSBA, VII, 153) Hence, Ptah and Seb – both called “father of the gods” – are considered creators of the sun, traditional role of the “divine artificer,” “builder” or “carpenter.” (Hart, 129)

Indeed, the correlations between Seb/Geb and Ptah are enough to cause Egyptologist Dr. Henri Frankfort to remark:

“[In Egypt] the earth was a male god – Ptah or Geb…. The figure of Geb would seem to possess the same potentialities as that of Ptah…. [Geb] is sometimes called ‘the father of the gods,’ and it is possible that at some time and place he was worshipped as the Creator….” (Frankfort, 181)

All factors considered, it is logical to suggest a correlation between Seb and Joseph as concerns their role or occupation as artificer or tekton as well.

(For more on the “carpenter” motif as found in pre-Christian mythology, see my book Suns of God).

As demonstrated here and in my other works, the correlations between the Egyptian god Horus and Jewish godman Jesus are profound and important. These parallels include these figures’ “fathers,” Seb and Joseph, whose names are similar and whose earthly roles and tektonic occupations likewise reveal significant correspondences that indicate the Egyptian myths may have been a principal source for various aspects of the gospel story of Christ.


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Two renditions of Anubis, the guide of the dead in the underworld and general mortuary god of Egypt.
In religio-mythology, Anubis, Anpu (Budge, 1906) or Anup (Murdock, 2008), the former being the Greek name of the mortuary god defined originally by the hieroglyph: or, i.e. the feather + water + square symbol (followed by a "jackal"), meaning "wind, water, mountain" (Hornung, 1982), rendered as the sound ı͗npw, vocalized in Egyptian, according to the Akkadian transcription in the Amarna letters, as "Anapa" (Conder, 1894) (Ѻ), is the son of either "Set + Nephthys" or "Osiris + Nephthys" (Plutarch, 100AD), depending on version of myth (from another older point of view, he was the sun of Ra), noted for being the general anointer of the mummified Osiris prior to his resurrection (see: death and resurrection of Osiris); some versions assert he was the baptizer of Horus. [1]

Anubis | Canis Major & Minor
The Egyptians, according to Chartrand (1982), considered the Canis Minor constellation to be Anubis; which he summarizes as follows: [4]
“The small dog, placed in the sky for faithfulness, drinks from the Milky Way, once thought to be a river. In Egypt, he was Anubis, the jackal god. The Greeks called the whole group Prochon.”

Other sources, however, connect Anubis to Canis Major; as Normandi Ellis (2012) puts things: [5]
“At most underworld entrances and in many sarcophagus rooms, the black dogs Anubis and Upuaut appear. While Anubis prepares the human vessel for its entrance into the underworld, Upuaut guards the gateway and opens the way into altered states of being. These jackals appear as openers of the way as early as the First Dynasty of Egypt. The Dogon tribe of Sudan, who probably are linked to Egypt's early ancestors, have a strong connection to the star Sirius, the bright Dog Star, which appears in the constellation Canis Major. They know, for example, that there are actually two stars: Sirius A and Sirius B, which appear to circle each other. The Canis Major and Canis Minor constellations may represent Anubis and Upuaut, but the Dog Star itself, called Sothis by the Egyptians, is linked to Isis, and the hidden twin star may be linked to Nephthys.”


Anubis / Embalming Osiris | John / Baptizing Jesus
In Egypt, when Thebes became the new religious capital, Anubis became the chief embalming god of the dead, Osiris first and foremost, then in the form of priests dressed as Anubis for dead pharaohs who wanted to be like Osiris in the afterlife:
“In the Theban Recension [2040-720BC] of the Book of the Dead, Anubis plays some very prominent parts, the most important of all being those which are connected with the judgment and the embalming of the deceased. Tradition declared that Anubis embalmed the body of Osiris, and that he swathed it in the linen swathings which were woven by Isis and Nephthys for their brother; and it was believed that his work was so thoroughly well performed under the direction of Horus and Isis and Nephthys, that it resisted the influences of time and decay.”
 Wallis Budge (1904), The Gods of the Egyptians, Volume Two (pg. 262)

In the Roman Recension (100-800AD), in the context of recension theory, Anubis became John, according to which the wrapping of the body of the dead Jesus is described in John 19:38-40 (see: Jesus Christ).

In 1864, English writer Charles King, in his Gnostics and their Remains, is cited by Wallis Budge (1904), has having done some interesting work on some of the “alleged connections of Anubis with Christ in the Gnostic system”. [3]

The worship of Anubis, as a god, according to Budge (1904) is older than that of Osiris cult worship, but younger than Horus worship, whose role in the Old Kingdom period was to guide the dead in the underworld, or something to this affect: [1]
“His worship is very ancient, and there is no doubt that even in the earliest times his cult was general in Egypt; it is probable that it is older than that of Osiris. In the text of Unas (line 70) [2500BC] he is associated with the Eye of Horus, and his duty as the guide of the dead in the Underworld on their way to Osiris was well defined, even at the remote period when this composition was written, for we read, ‘Unas standeth with the Spirits, get thee onwards, Anubis, into Amenti (the Underworld), onwards, onwards to Osiris’.”

Anubis was perceived to superintend the embalming of the kings and courtiers in the mortuary and the subsequent binding with linen bandages. His coat color, according to Michael Jordan (1993), is black in relation to the black tar that embalmers coated the mummies with. [2] It is Anubis who performs the "opening of the mouth" ceremony; hence, he seems to have an astro-theology origin.


The following are related quotes:

“They relate that Isis, learning that Osiris in his love had consorted with her sister [Nephthys] through ignorance, in the belief that she was Isis, and seeing the proof of this in the garland of melilote (Ѻ) which he had left with Nephthys, sought to find the child; for the mother, immediately after its birth, had exposed it because of her fear of Typhon [Set]. And when the child had been found, after a great toil and trouble, with the help of dogs which led Isis to it, it was brought up and became her guardian and attendant, receiving the name of Anubis, and it is said to protect the gods just as dogs protect men.”
 Plutarch (100AD), On Isis and Osiris (pg. 39)
“Of the stars, the Egyptians think that the Dog Star [aka Sirius] [its name reflecting its prominence in Canis Major (Greater Dog)] is the star of Isis, because it is the bringer of water [the heliacal rising of Sirius marks the start of the annual 150-day Nile River flood].”
— Plutarch (100AD), On Isis and Osiris (§38) (pg. 91)

1. (a) Budge, Wallis. (1904). The Gods of the Egyptians, Volume Two (§16:Anpu or Anubis, pgs. 261-66). Dover, 1969.
(b) Hornung, Eric. (1982). Conceptions of God in Ancient Egypt: the One and Many (translator: John Baines) (Anubis, pg. 67). Cornell University Press, 1996.
2. Jordan, Michael. (1993). Encyclopedia of Gods: Over 2,500 Deities of the World (pg. 19). Facts on File, Inc.
3. (a) King, Charles W. (1864). Gnostic and their Remains (Anubis, 25+ pgs; esp. pgs. 230, 279). D. Nutt, 1887.
(b) Budge, Wallis. (1904). The Gods of the Egyptians, Volume Two (pg. 266). Dover, 1969.
4. Chartrand, Mark R. (1982). Skyguide: a Field Guide for Amateur Astronomers (pg. 126). Publisher, 1990.
5. Ellis, Normandi. (2012). Imagining the World into Existence: an Ancient Egyptian Manual of Consciousness (pg. #). Publisher.

External links
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The hieroglyphic for Christ "krst" meaning mummy, the root meaning of the term Christ, Messiah, and or "the anointed".
In terminology, Christ, the root of Christianity (see: Christopher etymology), via the namesake Jesus Christ, from Egyptian "krst", hieroglyphic: , meaning "mummy", derived from: "kasu", hieroglyphic: , meaning “burial place”, the name of the metropolis of the 14th nome of Southern Egypt; later conflated with the Greek "anointed", meaning rub with oil (part of the mummification process), translates as "reborn mummy", all based on the Osiris myth or Osirian religion (Harper, 2004), itself being a core thread of Heliopolis creation myth.

Messiah | Etymology
In 1883, Gerald Massey, in his The Natural Genesis, Volume Two (pgs. 357-59), explained connects Messiah, anointed, and Christ as follows:
“The true root of the name ‘Messiah’ is the Egyptian mes, which denotes birth and rebirth. Messiah is the reborn or AEonian Iu (Eg.), Iao or Jah, — even as the month Mesore was named from the rebirth of Horus the child, which was annual. In Egypt the Repa, prince or heir-apparent, was the Messiah by name and nature, as the messiu or messui, the representative of Ra, the ever-living, who was continued by transformation into the young one, the ever-coming Messiah. The Messiah of Christology and supposed prophecy was the manifestor who was forever being reborn in time. The Messiahship was cyclic, and wholly dependent on the fulfillment of the cycles of time. The Egyptian Ra and Repa were the representatives of this manifestation in time, as personifications of the divine or solar Messiah, in the two aspects of father and son.

The Messiah, then, is the one who is reborn according to the cycle of time; but the natural genesis has to be traced beyond the symbolical aspect. The first Messiah was reborn at puberty. This was the earliest form of the anointed male. These things can only be fathomed in their fundamental phase. The anointed one did not commence from having oil poured on the head. The first male type of the prophet was the anointed by nature at puberty ; the aboriginal anointed, who preceded the oil-anointed, man-made prophet. As previously explained, the earliest mode of artificial anointing is that of Inner Africa, where the ointment was composed of red ochre mixed with grease or oil. In one of the Hottentot songs there is an allusion to the red ochre of anointing, and this is actually contrasted with the flesh-forming source. Lightning, the daughter-in-law of fire, is thus addressed: ‘Thou who hast painted thy body red like Goro,’ i.e. with ochre or red-clay, ‘Thou who dost not drop the menses’ or redden that way. The Hottentots also had a certain image or fetish-god which their women were accustomed to anoint by covering its head with a kind of red earth and buchu or sweet smelling herbs. This was their typical Messiah; and we learn from Egyptian thought and expression that anointing or coating with red ochre was a symbolical mode of refleshing. It was in this manner that Ptah refleshed the spirit for its rebirth from the womb of the underworld ; and the red earth represented the human or Adamic clay. In anointing the fetish image, the Hottentot women were imitating nature in fleshing the child for birth. Instead of calling on the saviour to come, they enacted the rebirth of the Messiah in the process of refleshing or, as it came to be called, anointing or embalming.

The Egyptians had discovered how to preserve the dead body intact with the flesh upon it, and its lineaments wearing the likeness of life; by which art they superseded the incasing or refleshing of the bones in the red ochre of the earlier stage. This embalmment of the dead body is termed "karas," and the embalmed mummy reborn by the preservative process, and placed in the tomb to await the rebirth in spirit life, is named the karast or krust [christ] Krust (Christ) , as the mummy-type, the shebti or double, an image of rebirth. This type of immortality or continuity was the anointed, the Messiah, the Christ, who in the later application of the ointment or oil is literally the greased. Mes (Eg.), the root of Messiah, also means to anoint, to generate, as well as to give birth. The mother was the anointer with her own blood as embodier of the child. The primary anointing applied to birth. But the Messiah was the anointed at rebirth, or puberty. The virile male was the natural Messiah, the anointed of the totemic mysteries.”

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Christ | Etymology
In 1883, Gerald Massey, in his The Natural Genesis (pg. #), explained that Christ derives from "krst" meaning embalming or mummification as follows: [1]
Christ the anointed is none other than the Osiris-karast, and that the karast mummy risen to its feet as Osiris-sahu was the prototypal Christ. Unhappily, these demonstrations cannot be made without a wearisome mass of detail. And we are bound for the bottom this time.

Budge, in his book on the mummy, tells his readers that the Egyptian word for mummy is ges, which signifies to wrap up in bandages. But he does not point out that ges or kes, to embalm the corpse or make the mummy, is a reduced or abraded form of an earlier word, karas (whence krst for the mummy). The original word written in hieroglyphics is krst, whence kas, to embalm, to bandage, to knot, to make the mummy or karast (Birch, Dictionary of the Hieroglyphics, pp. 415-416; Champollion, Grant. Egyptienne, 86). The word krs denotes the embalmment of the mummy, and the krst, as the mummy, was made in the process of preparation by purifying, anointing, and embalming. To Kara's the dead body was to embalm it, to bandage it, to make the mummy. The mummy was the Osirian Corpus Christi, prepared for burial as the laid-out dead, the karast by name.

When raised to its feet, it was the risen mummy, or sahu. The place of embalmment was likewise the krs. Thus the process of making the mummy was to karas, the place in which it was laid is the karas, and the product was the krst, whose image is the upright mummy = the risen Christ. Hence the name of the Christ, Christos in Greek, Chrestus in Latin, for the anointed, was derived, as the present writer previously suggested, from the Egyptian word krst.”
In 1907, Massey gave an elaboration of this. [2]
The index from Wallis Budge's The Gods of Egypt, Volume Two, wherein he gives the following equation "Osiris = Christ". [4]

In 1904, Wallis Budge, in his The Gods of Egypt, Volume Two, in the index gave the following formula "Osiris = Christ", to which he pointed to the following passage:
“The rapid growth and progress of Christianity in Egypt were due mainly to the fact that the new religion, which was preached there by St. Mark and his immediate followers, in all essentials so closely resembled that which was the outcome of the worship of Osiris, Isis, and Horus that popular opposition was entirely disarmed. In certain places in the south of Egypt, e.g., Philae, the worship of Osiris and Isis maintained its own until the beginning of the fifth century of our era, though this was in reality due to the support which it received from the Nubians, but, speaking generally, at this period in all other parts of Egypt Mary the Virgin and Christ had taken the places of Isis and Horus, and the "God-mother" or "mother of the god" , was no longer Isis, but Mary whom the Monophysites styled Θεοτοκος [mother of god]. ”
Here, of importance, we note the subtle transition in the first five centuries (0-500 ACM), the original formula "Osiris = Christ" becomes becomes "Horus = Christ" or "Osiris-Horus = Christ" which becomes "Jesus = Christ".
The other variants of Osiris, boxed in adjacent, are translated as follows:
● Osiris = Water | the phallus of Osiris eaten by a fish and submerged into the Nile (see: Baptism)
● Osiris-Apis | Osiris as the new god Serapis
● Osiris-Isis-Horus | God the father, Virgin Mary, and Jesus
● Osiris-Ra | Moses and Abraham
In 2014, French Egyptologist Dibombari Mbock, in his “passion of Osiris” equals “passion of Christ” explaining book The Egyptian Philosophy of Christ, translates “krs” as follows: (Ѻ)
The term "Krs", in this sense, means sarcophagus (sarcophage) + buried (enterrer).
Massey discusses the origin of the term karas as follows:

“Karas also signifies the burial-place, and the word modifies into Kas or Chas. Kasu the "burial place" was a name of the 14th Nome in Upper Egypt. A god Kas is mentioned three or four times in the Book of the Dead, "the god Kas who is in the Tuat " (ch. 40). This was a title of the mummy Osiris in the funerary dwelling. In one passage Kas is described as the deliverer or saviour from all mortal needs. In "the chapter of raising the body" (178) it is said of the deceased that he had been hungry and thirsty (on earth), but he will never hunger or thirst any more, " for Kas delivers him" and does away with wants like these. That is, in the resurrection. Here the name of the god Osiris-Kas written at full is Osiris the Karast—the Egyptian Christ.”

The term “krst”, karas, Kas or Chas, according to Massey, derives from the name of the “burial place” of the 14th nome in Upper Egypt. The “kas”, according to the circa 1875 views of British Egyptologist Peter Renouf (1822-1897) (Ѻ), the successor to Samuel Birch, whose understudy was Wallis Budge, is described as follows: (Ѻ)

We note, by possible connection, that Osiris was cut into 14 pieces, the number 14 representative, astro-theologically, either as the half lunar cycle, in the sense of the moon being a god whose light is chopped up, or the number of the stars of the Orion constellation.

In 2008, Dorothy Murdock, in her Christ in Egypt, elaborated on some of Massey's views.

Here, of note, the word "Karas", curiously, brings to mind the name "Father Karras" of the 1971 book turned film The Exorcist, by William Blatty, which is based (Ѻ) on the model of exorcisms dating back to ancient Egypt, and also has the character of Pierre Teilhard as Father Merrin.

The following are related quotes:
“We do not deny that many men called Christ, may in former times, have existed in Jerusalem and elsewhere, any more than we deny that such a person or persons as Hercules once existed in Greece—but we do distinctly deny that either Christ or Hercules were gods, demi-gods, or prophets, or performed the works commonly attributed to them. Christ no more foretold the destruction of Jerusalem than did Hercules conquer the Nemean lion. Christ no more performed the miracles, Testament-makers have ascribed to him, than did Prince Hohenloe the miracles ascribed to him! To destroy the divine and prophetic character of Jesus, is to destroy all that which renders him sacred in the eyes of Christians, and at once strips his character of that gaudy plumage which dazzles the eyes of his worshippers. When this is done, it will be time enough to consider whether one or fifty Jesus Christs walked about the streets of Jerusalem eighteen hundred years ago; and really, of no more practical consequence than it would be to inquire whether certain men called Bacchus once lived in Thebes.”
— Anon German Jew (1841), The Existence of Christ Disproved (pg. 28) [3]
“The coffin bore the hieroglyphic equivalent for KRST. Massey connects KRST with the Greek word Christos, messiah, or Christ. He says, ‘say what you will or believe what you may, there is no other origin for the Christ the anointed than ‘Horus the Karas’ or ‘anointed son of god the father’. The mystery of the mummy is the mystery of Christ.”
 Tom Harpur (2004), The Pagan Christ (pg. 101)

See also
 Christ fable
 Christian captain parable
 Jesus Christ

1. Massey, Gerald. (1883). The Natural Genesis: Second Part of a Book of the Beginnings, Containing an Attempt to Recover and Reconstitute the Lost Origins of the Myths and Mysteries, Types and Symbols, Religion and Language, with Egypt for the Mouthpiece and Africa as the Birthplace, Volume Two (pg. 437). Williams and Norgate.
2. Massey, Gerald. (1907). Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Mysteries of Amenta (pg. 172-73); Book IV of Ancient Egypt the Light of the World (pg. 217-18). Cosmo, 2008.
3. Anon. (1841). The Existence of Christ Disproved by Irresistible Evidence, in a series of letters, from a German Jew. [30 letters] (pg. 4). Publisher.
4. Budge, Wallis. (1904). The Gods of the Egyptians, Volume Two (Osiris = Christ, pgs. 221, 416) . Dover, 1969.

External links
 Christ – Online Etymology Dictionary.




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"Worship of Osiris Wennefer, the Great God who dwells in the Thinite Nome, King of Eternity, who passes millions of years in his lifetime; … All that exists is ushered in to him in his name of Face-to-whom-men-are-ushered; the Two Lands are marshaled for him as leader in this his great name of Seker; his might is far-reaching, one greatly feared in this his name of Osiris; he passes over the length of eternity in his name Wennefer. ‘Hail to you, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Ruler of Rulers …’. "


Papyrus of Ani, Introductory Hymn to Osiris


Nicolas Wyatt, Space and Time in the Religious Life of the Near East, trans. R.O. Faulkner (Sheffield: Sheffield Academic Press, 2001), (248)



Lastly a Villain against the faith KJ Ozborne attempting to discredit Acharya S's work as an Illuminati Demon Conspiracy!😱

This despite all of the irrefutable proof I have cited in defence of our Gospel!!!🤬



And thats all for Osiris/Horus so you'll have to read the Zeitgeist: The Movie Companion Source Guide or get The Companion Guide to Zeitgeist part 1 or buy Christ In Egypt: The Horus Jesus connection as an alternative to find the rest or simply download Neal Boswell's "The Perrenial Gospel" I shall provide a link to at the very end of this article and read that and again a very special thanks to Neal and DM Murdock for this info. now time to "Walk like an Egyptian" to our next entry....Mithras!





Next Jesus Vs Mithras!:


Mithraic Tauroctony | ALTER MAN 47


magnifique reconstruction d'un bouclier tardif à l'effigie de Mithras |  Ancient warfare, Ancient rome, Roman empire



Now a round of applause for "Obstinace" from the antagonist to our Mythicst Creed Michael Jones....






More Info: http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/Mithraism.html THX to Ken Humphries for this Info!



For starters although the Majority of Scholars argue that Mithraism was soley a Roman invention this assertion by modern scholars is simply wrong as although Franz Cumonts theory of eastern western transference is unsustainible many Scholars including Roger Beck and James R Hinnels in their investigations they replace Cumonts theories of eastern to western trasference of mithraism with sustainable ones and even many Modern Iranian Scholars like Badi Badiozamani Payam Nabarz among others who evidently know more about there countries history than the majority of western scholars have also attested to its Mithraism's Eastern Origins and Even Plutarch admited that Mithraism was imported from Persia to Rome by Sicillian Pirates Xenophon and Herodotus who lived hundreds of years before the common era also attest to the pre Christian roots of mithraism and even Justin Martyr contrary to Bart ERRRRMAAAN of the swamps strawman's In his fallacious/fallatio book Did Jebus Exist? as well as other early church fathers admited that mithraism was similar to christianity to the point that the Devil impersonated Christ BEFORE HIS BIRTH in the mysteries of Mithras 


So that settles it Mithraism is both Pre Christian and Persian NOT Roman in origin so lets listen to what some blasphemous fiends and sinful heathens had to say on this subject!:


"These clowns are also plagiarists. A lot of their page on Mithras is a copy and paste job from a paper written by a high school kid in 1993. Here is an example:From the original essay:"









This widely repeated assertion — often with an agenda behind it seeking to dismiss Christianity as a hash of previous religions — is apparently not true: see M. J. Vermaseren, "The Miraculous Birth of Mithras" (Mnemosyne, 4th series, Vol. 4, pp285‑301, 1951). In brief, that author writes, pp285 f.: This is not a description of a real birth, but this manifestation of the deity as the giver of light, pouring forth his largess every morning anew and, besides, the feminine name of the mountain were apt to lead to the conception of the birth of the god from a Mother-Goddess. Yet, the idea of Mithras as a son of Ahura-Mazda, the Knowing Lord, or as born naturally from a woman, though attested by some late Armenian writers, did not become traditional. Mithras' birth remained an obscure affair: the principal thing was that he existed and helped anyone who lived in true obedience to his laws. Neither in the Western world did the authors conceive Mithras as a child procreated by a father or born from a woman or even from a virgin. Both classical literature and inscriptions declare that the god was born from a rock or a stone.The paper then goes on to give many examples of depictions of the birth of Mithras — emerging from a rock, and with few exceptions as a fully-grown young man.


So are these villainous heathens correct? Are we Just copying and pasting highschool papers from the 90's to prove our point? are we just making shit up to further an "agenda" against Christianity.........Uh fuck no and these are some disingenoues and quite ignorant assumptions to make about those who point these parallels out


First of all Vermaseren is Correct that Roman Mithraism potrays Mithra as being born from a rock and to our knowlege there are no roman cultures that openly potrayed him as being born from a goddess hence it is claimed he was "not born of a Virgin" The first Problem with Vermaserens claim is that it hinges on the ignorant mainstream (and clearly bullshit) view that Mithraism did not exist prior to its roman form and did not pre date christianity both of which I have already shown to be false and even Preistess/Nun Acharya herself in splendid defense of our Religious faith in an article on Mithra the Pagan Christ adressing these same issues and refuting this heresy essentually meaning these claims Of Mithra being soley Roman from which Vermasseren derives his conclusion are no more than Narrow minded blasphemy from the Atheistic heretics of Angra Mainyu against our Faith!



Mithra: The Pagan Christ

Categories: Stellar House Archives

by Acharya S/D.M. Murdock

Mithra with Sun and Moon

(The following article is adapted from a chapter in Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled, as well as excerpts from other articles, such as “The Origins of Christianity” and “The ZEITGEIST Sourcebook.”)

“Both Mithras and Christ were described variously as ‘the Way,’ ‘the Truth,’ ‘the Light,’ ‘the Life,’ ‘the Word,’ ‘the Son of God,’ ‘the Good Shepherd.’ The Christian litany to Jesus could easily be an allegorical litany to the sun-god. Mithras is often represented as carrying a lamb on his shoulders, just as Jesus is. Midnight services were found in both religions. The virgin mother…was easily merged with the virgin mother Mary. Petra, the sacred rock of Mithraism, became Peter, the foundation of the Christian Church.”

Gerald Berry, Religions of the World

“Mithra or Mitra is…worshipped as Itu (Mitra-Mitu-Itu) in every house of the Hindus in India. Itu (derivative of Mitu or Mitra) is considered as the Vegetation-deity. This Mithra or Mitra (Sun-God) is believed to be a Mediator between God and man, between the Sky and the Earth. It is said that Mithra or [the] Sun took birth in the Cave on December 25th. It is also the belief of the Christian world that Mithra or the Sun-God was born of [a] Virgin. He travelled far and wide. He has twelve satellites, which are taken as the Sun’s disciples…. [The Sun’s] great festivals are observed in the Winter Solstice and the Vernal Equinox—Christmas and Easter. His symbol is the Lamb….”

Swami Prajnanananda, Christ the Saviour and Christ Myth

Because of its evident relationship to Christianity, special attention needs to be paid to the Persian/Roman religion of Mithraism. The worship of the Indo-Persian god Mithra dates back centuries to millennia preceding the common era. The god is found as “Mitra” in the Indian Vedic religion, which is over 3,500 years old, by conservative estimates. When the Iranians separated from their Indian brethren, Mitra became known as “Mithra” or “Mihr,” as he is also called in Persian.

Hittite and Mitanni kingdoms around 1400 BCE

By around 1500 BCE, Mitra worship had made it to the Near East, in the Indian kingdom of the Mitanni, who at that time occupied Assyria. Mitra worship, however, was known also by that time as far west as the Hittite kingdom, only a few hundred miles east of the Mediterranean, as is evidenced by the Hittite-Mitanni tablets found at Bogaz-Köy in what is now Turkey. The gods of the Mitanni included Mitra, Varuna and Indra, all found in the Vedic texts.

Mithra as Sun God

The Indian Mitra was essentially a solar deity, representing the “friendly” aspect of the sun. So too was the Persian derivative Mithra, who was a “benevolent god” and the bestower of health, wealth and food. Mithra also seems to have been looked upon as a sort of Prometheus, for the gift of fire. (Schironi, 104) His worship purified and freed the devotee from sin and disease. Eventually, Mithra became more militant, and he is best known as a warrior.

Mithra wearing a crown of sun rays; Taqwasân or Taq-e Bostan or Taq-i-Bustan, Sassanid Empire, Coronation of Ardeshir II, c. 4th cent. AD/CE (Photo: Phillipe Chavin)

Like so many gods, Mithra was the light and power behind the sun. In Babylon, Mithra was identified with Shamash, the sun god, and he is also Bel, the Mesopotamian and Canaanite/ Phoenician solar deity, who is likewise Marduk, the Babylonian god who represented both the planet Jupiter and the sun. According to Pseudo-Clement of Rome’s debate with Appion (Homily VI, ch. X), Mithra is also Apollo.

In time, the Persian Mithraism became infused with the more detailed astrotheology of the Babylonians and Chaldeans, and was notable for its astrology and magic; indeed, its priests or magi lent their very name to the word “magic.” Included in this astrotheological development was the re-emphasis on Mithra’s early Indian role as a sun god. As Francis Legge says in Forerunners and Rivals in Christianity:

The Vedic Mitra was originally the material sun itself, and the many hundreds of votive inscriptions left by the worshippers of Mithras to “the unconquered Sun Mithras,” to the unconquered solar divinity (numen) Mithras, to the unconquered Sun-God (deus) Mithra, and allusions in them to priests (sacerdotes), worshippers (cultores), and temples (templum) of the same deity leave no doubt open that he was in Roman times a sun-god. (Legge, II, 240)

By the Roman legionnaires, Mithra—or Mithras, as he began to be known in the Greco-Roman world—was called “the divine Sun, the Unconquered Sun.” He was said to be “Mighty in strength, mighty ruler, greatest king of gods! O Sun, lord of heaven and earth, God of Gods!” Mithra was also deemed “the mediator” between heaven and earth, a role often ascribed to the god of the sun.

An inscription by a “T. Flavius Hyginus” dating to around 80 to 100 AD/CE in Rome dedicates an altar to “Sol Invictus Mithras”—”The Unconquered Sun Mithra”—revealing the hybridization reflected in other artifacts and myths. Regarding this title, Dr. Richard L. Gordon, honorary professor of Religionsgeschichte der Antike at the University of Erfurt, Thuringen, remarks:

It is true that one…cult title…of Mithras was, or came to be, Deus Sol Invictus Mithras (but he could also be called… Deus Invictus Sol Mithras, Sol Invictus Mithras…

…Strabo, 15.3.13 (p. 732C), basing his information on a lost work, either by Posidonius (ca 135-51 BC) or by Apollodorus of Artemita (first decades of 1 cent. BC), states baldly that the Western Parthians “call the sun Mithra.” The Roman cult seems to have taken this existing association and developed it in their own special way. (Gordon, “FAQ.” (Emph. added.))

“Mithra is who the monuments proclaim him—the Unconquered Sun.”

As concerns Mithra’s identity, Mithraic scholar Dr. Roger Beck says:

Mithras…is the prime traveller, the principal actor…on the celestial stage which the tauctony [bull-slaying] defines…. He is who the monuments proclaim him—the Unconquered Sun. (Beck (2004), 274)

In an early image, Mithra is depicted as a sun disc in a chariot drawn by white horses, another solar motif that made it into the Jesus myth, in which Christ is to return on a white horse. (Rev 6:2; 19:11)

Persian sun god in quadriga sun chariot; Lundy, 177, after Lajard

Mithra in the Roman Empire

Subsequent to the military campaign of Alexander the Great in the fourth century BCE, Mithra became the “favorite deity” of Asia Minor. Christian writers Dr. Samuel Jackson and George W. Gilmore, editors of The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge (VII, 420), remark:

It was probably at this period, 250-100 b.c., that the Mithraic system of ritual and doctrine took the form which it afterward retained. Here it came into contact with the mysteries, of which there were many varieties, among which the most notable were those of Cybele.

According to the Roman historian Plutarch (c. 46-120 AD/CE), Mithraism began to be absorbed by the Romans during Pompey’s military campaign against Cilician pirates around 70 BCE. The religion eventually migrated from Asia Minor through the soldiers, many of whom had been citizens of the region, into Rome and the far reaches of the Empire. Syrian merchants brought Mithraism to the major cities, such as Alexandria, Rome and Carthage, while captives carried it to the countryside. By the third century AD/CE Mithraism and its mysteries permeated the Roman Empire and extended from India to Scotland, with abundant monuments in numerous countries amounting to over 420 Mithraic sites so far discovered.

“By the third century AD/CE Mithraism and its mysteries permeated the Roman Empire and extended from India to Scotland.”

Mithra as Sol Invictus, the inscription reading

From a number of discoveries, including pottery, inscriptions and temples, we know that Roman Mithraism gained a significant boost and much of its shape between 80 and 120 AD/CE, when the first artifacts of this particular cultus begin to be found at Rome. It reached a peak during the second and third centuries, before largely expiring at the end of the fourth/beginning of fifth centuries. Among its members during this period were emperors, politicians and businessmen. Indeed, before its usurpation by Christianity Mithraism enjoyed the patronage of some of the most important individuals in the Roman Empire. In the fifth century, the emperor Julian, having rejected his birth-religion of Christianity, adopted Mithraism and “introduced the practise of the worship at Constantinople.” (Schaff-Herzog, VII, 423)

Modern scholarship has gone back and forth as to how much of the original Indo-Persian Mitra-Mithra cultus affected Roman Mithraism, which demonstrates a distinct development but which nonetheless follows a pattern of this earlier solar mythos and ritual. The theory of “continuity” from the Iranian to Roman Mithraism developed famously by scholar Dr. Franz Cumont in the 20th century has been largely rejected by many scholars. Yet, Plutarch himself (Life of Pompey, 24) related that followers of Mithras “continue to the present time” the “secret rites” of the Cilician pirates, “having been first instituted by them.” So too does the ancient writer Porphyry (234-c. 305 AD/CE) state that the Roman Mithraists themselves believed their religion had been founded by the Persian savior Zoroaster.

Statue of Tiridates I of Armenia; André, 1687; Parc et jardins du château de Versailles (Photo: Eupator)

In discussing what may have been recounted by ancient writers asserted to have written many volumes about Mithraism, such as Eubulus of Palestine and “a certain Pallas,” Gordon (Journal Mithraic Studies, v. 2, 150) remarks: “Certainly Zoroaster would have figured largely; and so would the Persians and the magi.” It seems that the ancients themselves did not divorce the eastern roots of Mithraism, as exemplified also by the remarks of Dio Cassius, who related that in 66 AD/CE the king of Armenia, Tiridates, visited Rome. Cassius states that the dignitary worshipped Mithra; yet, he does not indicate any distinction between the Armenian’s religion and Roman Mithraism.

It is apparent from their testimony that ancient sources perceived Mithraism as having a Persian origin; hence, it would seem that any true picture of the development of Roman Mithraism must include the latter’s relationship to the earlier Persian cultus, as well as its Asia Minor and Armenian offshoots. Current scholarship is summarized thus by Dr. Beck (2004; 28):

Since the 1970s, scholars of western Mithraism have generally agreed that Cumont’s master narrative of east-west transfer is unsustainable; but…recent trends in the scholarship on Iranian religion, by modifying the picture of that religion prior to the birth of the western mysteries, now render a revised Cumontian scenario of east-west transfer and continuities once again viable.

In his massive anthology, Armenian and Iranian Studies, Dr. James R. Russell, professor of Armenian Studies at Harvard University, essentially proves that Roman Mithraism had its origins in not only Persian or Iranian Mithraism and Zoroastrianism but also in Armenian religion, dating back centuries before the common era.

The Many Faces of Mithra

The Armenian Empire under Tigranes the Great, fl. 95 to 66 BCE; Aivazovsky

Mainstream scholarship speaks of at least three Mithras: Mitra, the Vedic god; Mithra, the Persian deity; and Mithras, the Greco-Roman mysteries icon. However, the Persian Mithra apparently developed differently in various places, such as in Armenia, where there appeared to be emphasis on characteristics not overtly present in Roman Mithraism but found as motifs within Christianity, including the Virgin Mother Goddess. This Armenian Mithraism is evidently a continuity of the Mithraism of Asia Minor and the Near East. This development of gods taking on different forms, shapes, colors, ethnicities and other attributes according to location, era and so on is not only quite common but also the norm. Thus, we have hundreds of gods and goddesses who are in many ways interchangeable but who have adopted various differences based on geographical and environmental factors.

Mithra and Christ

Over the centuries—in fact, from the earliest Christian times—Mithraism has been compared to Christianity, revealing numerous similarities between the two faiths’ doctrines and traditions, including as concerns stories of their respective godmen. In developing this analysis, it should be kept in mind that elements from Roman, Armenian and Persian Mithraism are utilized, not as a whole ideology but as separate items that may have affected the creation of Christianity, whether directly through the mechanism of Mithraism or through another Pagan source within the Roman Empire and beyond. The evidence points to these motifs and elements being adopted into Christianity not as a whole from one source but singularly from many sources, including Mithraism.

“The evidence points to these motifs and elements being adopted into Christianity…”

Thus, the following list represents not a solidified mythos or narrative of one particular Mithra or form of the god as developed in one particular culture and era but, rather, a combination of them all for ease of reference as to any possible influences upon Christianity under the name of Mitra/Mithra/Mithras.

Mithra has the following in common with the Jesus character:

Mithra ascending to heaven in his solar cart, with sun symbol

  • Mithra was born on December 25th of the virgin Anahita.
  • The babe was wrapped in swaddling clothes, placed in a manger and attended by shepherds.
  • He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
  • He had 12 companions or “disciples.”
  • He performed miracles.
  • As the “great bull of the Sun,” Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
  • He ascended to heaven.
  • Mithra was viewed as the Good Shepherd, the “Way, the Truth and the Light,” the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah.
  • Mithra is omniscient, as he “hears all, sees all, knows all: none can deceive him.”
  • He was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb.
  • His sacred day was Sunday, “the Lord’s Day,” hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
  • His religion had a eucharist or “Lord’s Supper.”
  • Mithra “sets his marks on the foreheads of his soldiers.”
  • Mithraism emphasized baptism.

December 25th Birthday

The similarities between Mithraism and Christianity have included their chapels, the term “father” for priest, celibacy and, it is notoriously claimed, the December 25th birthdate. Over the centuries, apologists contending that Mithraism copied Christianity nevertheless have asserted that the December 25th birthdate was taken from Mithraism. As Sir Arthur Weigall says:

December 25th was really the date, not of the birth of Jesus, but of the sun-god Mithra. Horus, son of Isis, however, was in very early times identified with Ra, the Egyptian sun-god, and hence with Mithra…

Mithra’s birthday on December 25th has been so widely claimed that the Catholic Encyclopedia (“Mithraism”) remarks: “The 25 December was observed as his birthday, the natalis invicti, the rebirth of the winter-sun, unconquered by the rigours of the season.”

Yet this contention of Mithra’s birthday on December 25th or the winter solstice is disputed because there is no hard archaeological or literary evidence of the Roman Mithras specifically being named as having been born at that time. Says Dr. Alvar:

There is no evidence of any kind, not even a hint, from within the cult that this, or any other winter day, was important in the Mithraic calendar. (Alvar, 410)

In analyzing the evidence, we must keep in mind all the destruction that has taken place over the past 2,000 years—including that of many Mithraic remains and texts—as well as the fact that several of these germane parallels constituted mysteries that may or may not have been recorded in the first place or the meanings of which have been obscured.


The claim about the Roman Mithras’s birth on “Christmas” is evidently based on the Calendar of Filocalus or Philocalian Calendar (c. 354 AD/CE), which mentions that December 25th represents the “Birthday of the Unconquered,” understood to refer to the sun and taken to indicate Mithras as Sol Invictus. Whether it represents Mithras’s birthday specifically or “merely” that of Emperor Aurelian’s Sol Invictus, with whom Mithras has been identified, the Calendar also lists the day—the winter solstice birth of the sun—as that of natus Christus in Betleem Iudeae: “Birth of Christ in Bethlehem Judea.”

Moreover, it would seem that there is more to this story, as Aurelian was the first to institute officially the winter solstice as the birthday of Sol Invictus (Dies Natalis Solis Invicti) in 274 AD/CE. (Halsberghe, 158) It is contended that Aurelian’s move was in response to Mithras’s popularity. (Restaud, 4) One would thus wonder why the emperor would be so motivated if Mithras had nothing whatsoever to do with the sun god’s traditional birthday—a disconnect that would be unusual for any solar deity.

Regardless of whether or not the artifacts of the Roman Mithras’s votaries reflect the attribution of the sun god’s birthday to him specifically, many in the empire did identify the mysteries icon and Sol Invictus as one, evidenced by the inscriptions of “Sol Invictus Mithras” and the many images of Mithras and the sun together, representing two sides of the same coin or each other’s alter ego. Hence, the placement of Mithras’s birth on this feast day of the sun is understandable and, despite the lack of concrete evidence at this date, quite plausibly was recognized in this manner in antiquity in the Roman Empire.

Persian Winter Festivals

In addition, it is clear that the ancient peoples from whom Mithraism sprang, long before it was Romanized, were very much involved in winter festivals so common among many other cultures globally. In this regard, discussing the Iranian month of Asiyadaya, which corresponds to November/December, Mithraic scholar Dr. Mary Boyce remarks:

…it is at this time of year that the Zoroastrian festival of Sada takes place, which is not only probably pre-Zoroastrian in origin, but may even go back to proto-Indo-European times. For Sada is a great open-air festival, of a kind celebrated widely among the Indo-European peoples, with the intention of strengthening the heavenly fire, the sun, in its winter decline and feebleness. Sun and fire being of profound significance in the Old Iranian religion, this is a festival which one would expect the Medes and Persians to have brought with them into their new lands… Sada is not, however, a feast in honour of the god of Fire, Atar, but is rather for the general strengthening of the creation of fire against the onslaught of winter. (Boyce (1982), 24-25)

This ancient Persian winter festival therefore celebrates the strengthening of the “fire” or sun in the face its winter decline, just as virtually every winter-solstice festivity is intended to do. Yet, as Dr. Boyce says, this “Zoroastrian” winter celebration is likely pre-Zoroastrian and even proto-Indo-European, which means it dates back far into the hoary mists of time, possibly tens of thousands of years ago. And one would indeed expect the Medes and Persians to bring this festival with them into their new lands, including the Near East, where they would eventually encounter Romans, who could hardly have missed this common solar motif celebrated worldwide in numerous ways.

“The Mithraists believed that this night is the night of the birth of Mithra, Persian god of light and truth.”

Yalda greetings from an Iranian site; Mithra wearing a Phrygian cap; www.cais-soas.com/News/2007/December2007/21-12.htm

The same may be said as concerns another Persian or Zoroastrian winter celebration called “Yalda,” which is the festival of the Longest Night of the Year, taking place on December 20th or the day before the solstice:

Yalda has a history as long as the Mithraism religion. The Mithraists believed that this night is the night of the birth of Mithra, Persian god of light and truth. At the morning of the longest night of the year the Mithra is born from a virgin mother….

In Zoroastrian tradition, the winter solstice with the longest night of the year was an auspicious day, and included customs intended to protect people from misfortune…. The Eve of the Yalda has great significance in the Iranian calendar. It is the eve of the birth of Mithra, the Sun God, who symbolized light, goodness and strength on earth. Shab-e Yalda is a time of joy.

Yalda is a Syriac word meaning birth. Mithra-worshippers used the term “yalda” specifically with reference to the birth of Mithra. As the longest night of the year, the Eve of Yalda (Shab-e Yalda) is also a turning point, after which the days grow longer. In ancient times it symbolized the triumph of the Sun God over the powers of darkness. (“Yalda,” Wikipedia)

It is likely that this festival does indeed derive from remote antiquity, and it is evident that the ancient Persians were well aware of the winter solstice and its meaning as found in numerous other cultures: To wit, the annual “rebirth,” “renewal” or “resurrection” of the sun.

“‘Christmas’ is the birth not of the ‘son of God’ but of the sun.”

In the end the effect is the same: “Christmas” is the birth not of the “son of God” but of the sun. Indeed, there is much evidence—including many ancient monumental alignments—to demonstrate that this highly noticeable and cherished event of the winter solstice was celebrated beginning hundreds to thousands of years before the common era in numerous parts of the world. The observation was thus provably taken over by Christianity, not as biblical doctrine but as a later tradition in order to compete with the Pagan cults, a move we contend occurred with numerous other “Christian” motifs, including many that are in the New Testament.

Mithra the ‘Rock-Born’

Mithra’s genesis out of a rock, analogous to the birth in caves of a number of gods—including Jesus in the apocryphal, non-canonical texts— was followed by his adoration by shepherds, another motif that found its way into the later Christianity. Regarding the birth in caves likewise common to pre-Christian gods, and present in the early legends of Jesus, Weigall relates (50):

…the cave shown at Bethlehem as the birthplace of Jesus was actually a rock shrine in which the god Tammuz or Adonis was worshipped, as the early Christian father Jerome tells us; and its adoption as the scene of the birth of our Lord was one of those frequent instances of the taking over by Christians of a pagan sacred site. The propriety of this appropriation was increased by the fact that the worship of a god in a cave was commonplace in paganism: Apollo, Cybele, Demeter, Herakles, Hermes, Mithra and Poseidon were all adored in caves; Hermes, the Greek Logos, being actually born of Maia in a cave, and Mithra being “rock-born.”

Mithra, born from a rock holding a dagger and a torch

As the “rock-born,” Mithras was called “Theos ek Petras,” or the “God from the Rock.” As Weigall also relates:

Indeed, it may be that the reason of the Vatican hill at Rome being regarded as sacred to Peter, the Christian “Rock,” was that it was already sacred to Mithra, for Mithraic remains have been found there.

Mithras was “the rock,” or Peter, and was also “double-faced,” like Janus the keyholder, likewise a prototype for the “apostle” Peter. Hence, when Jesus is made to say (in the apparent interpolation at Matthew 16:12) that the keys of the kingdom of heaven are given to “Peter” and that the Church is to be built upon “Peter,” as a representative of Rome, he is usurping the authority of Mithraism, which was precisely headquartered on what became Vatican Hill.

“Mithraic remains on Vatican Hill are found underneath the later Christian edifices, which proves the Mithra cult was there first.”

By the time the Christian hierarchy prevailed in Rome, Mithra had already been a popular cult, with pope, bishops, etc., and its doctrines were well established and widespread, reflecting a certain antiquity. Mithraic remains on Vatican Hill are found underneath the later Christian edifices, a fact that proves the Mithra cult was there first. In fact, while Mithraic ruins are abundant throughout the Roman Empire, beginning in the late first century AD/CE, “The earliest church remains, found in Dura-Europos, date only from around 230 CE.”

The Virgin Mother Anahita

Unlike various other rock- or cave-born gods, Mithra is not depicted in the Roman cultus as having been given birth by a mortal woman or a goddess; hence, it is claimed that he was not “born of a virgin.” However, a number of writers over the centuries have asserted otherwise, including several modern Persian and Armenian scholars who are apparently reflecting an ancient tradition from Near Eastern Mithraism.

“The worship of Mithra and Anahita, the virgin mother of Mithra, was well-known in the Achaemenian period.”

Sassanid king Khosrow flanked by Anahita and Ahura Mazda; 7th cent. AD/CE; Taq-e Bostan, Iran (Phillipe Chavin)

For example, Dr. Badi Badiozamani says that a “person” named “Mehr” or Mithra was “born of a virgin named Nahid Anahita (‘immaculate’)” and that “the worship of Mithra and Anahita, the virgin mother of Mithra, was well-known in the Achaemenian period [558-330 BCE]…” (Badiozamani, 96) Philosophy professor Dr. Mohammed Ali Amir-Moezzi states: “Dans le mithraïsme, ainsi que le mazdéisme populaire, (A)Nāhīd, mère de Mithra/Mehr, est vierge”—”In Mithraism, as in popular Mazdaism, Anahid, the mother of Mithra, is a virgin.” (Amir-Moezzi, 78-79) Comparing the rock birth with that of the virgin mother, Dr. Amir-Moezzi also says:

…il y a donc analogie entre le rocher, symbole d’incorruptibilité, qui donne naissance au dieu iranien et la mère de celui-ci, Anāhīd, éternellement vierge et jeune.

(…so there is analogy between the rock, a symbol of incorruptibility, giving birth to the Iranian god and the mother of that (same) one, Anahid, eternally virgin and young.)

In Mithraic Iconography and Ideology (78), Dr. Leroy A. Campbell calls Anahita the “great goddess of virgin purity,” and Religious History professor Dr. Claas J. Bleeker says, “In the Avestan religion she is the typical virgin.” (Bleeker (1963), 100)

One modern writer (“Mithraism and Christianity”) portrays the Mithra myth thus:

According to Persian mythology, Mithras was born of a virgin given the title “Mother of God.”

The Parthian princes of Armenia were all priests of Mithras, and an entire district of this land was dedicated to the Virgin Mother Anahita. Many Mithraeums, or Mithraic temples, were built in Armenia, which remained one of the last strongholds of Mithraism. The largest near-eastern Mithraeum was built in western Persia at Kangavar, dedicated to “Anahita, the Immaculate Virgin Mother of the Lord Mithras.”

Artemis the Huntress holding two animals (lions?), Francois Vase, 6th century BCE; Louvre

Anahita, also known as “Anaitis”—whose very name means “Pure” and “Untainted” and who was equated in antiquity with the virgin goddess Artemis—is certainly an Indo-Iranian goddess of some antiquity, dating back at least to the first half of the first millennium prior to the common era and enjoying “widespread popularity” around Asia Minor. Indeed, Anahita has been called “the best known divinity of the Persians” in Asia Minor. (de Jong, 268)

Moreover, concerning Mithra Schaff-Herzog says, “The Achaemenidae worshiped him as making the great triad with Ahura and Anahita.” Ostensibly, this “triad” was the same as God the Father, the Virgin and Jesus, which would tend to confirm the assertion that Anahita was Mithra’s virgin mother. That Anahita was closely associated with Mithra at least five centuries before the common era is evident from the equation made by Herodotus (1.131) in naming “Mitra” as the Persian counterpart of the Near and Middle Eastern goddesses Alilat and Mylitta. (de Jong, 269-270)

Moreover, Mithra’s prototype, the Indian Mitra, was likewise born of a female, Aditi, the “mother of the gods,” the inviolable or virgin dawn. Hence, we would expect an earlier form of Mithra also to possess this virgin-mother motif, which seems to have been lost or deliberately severed in the all-male Roman Mithraism.

Well known to scholars, the pre-Christian divine birth and virgin mother motifs are documented in the archaeological and literary records, as verified by Dr. Marguerite Rigoglioso in The Cult of the Divine Birth in Ancient Greece and Virgin Mother Goddesses of Antiquity.

For more information, see:

Mithra Born of a Virgin Mother

Mithra and the Twelve

Mithra surrounded by the Twelve anthropomorphized signs of the Zodiac; Mithraeum of San Clemente, 3rd century AD/CE

The theme of the teaching god and “the Twelve” is found within Mithraism, as Mithra is depicted as surrounded by the 12 zodiac signs on a number of monuments and in the writings of Porphyry (4.16), for one. These 12 signs are sometimes portrayed as humans and, as they have been in the case of numerous sun gods, could be called Mithra’s 12 “companions” or “disciples.”

Regarding the Twelve, John M. Robertson says:

On Mithraic monuments we find representations of twelve episodes, probably corresponding to the twelve labors in the stories of Heracles, Samson and other Sun-heroes, and probably also connected with initiation.

The comparison of this common motif with Jesus and the 12 has been made on many occasions, including in an extensive study entitled, “Mithras and Christ: some iconographical similarities,” by Professor A. Deman in Mithraic Studies.

Early Church Fathers on Mithraism

Mithraism was so popular in the Roman Empire and so similar in important aspects to Christianity that several Church fathers were compelled to address it, disparagingly of course. These fathers included Justin Martyr, Tertullian, Julius Firmicus Maternus and Augustine, all of whom attributed these striking correspondences to the prescient devil. In other words, anticipating Christ, the devil set about to fool the Pagans by imitating the coming messiah. In reality, the testimony of these Church fathers confirms that these various motifs, characteristics, traditions and myths predated Christianity.

“Christianity took a leaf out of the devil’s book when it fixed the birth of the Saviour on the twenty-fifth of December.”

Concerning this “devil did it” argument, in The Worship of Nature Sir James G. Frazer remarks:

If the Mithraic mysteries were indeed a Satanic copy of a divine original, we are driven to conclude that Christianity took a leaf out of the devil’s book when it fixed the birth of the Saviour on the twenty-fifth of December; for there can be no doubt that the day in question was celebrated as the birthday of the Sun by the heathen before the Church, by an afterthought, arbitrarily transferred the Nativity of its Founder from the sixth of January to the twenty-fifth of December.

Regarding the various similarities between Mithra and Christ, as well as the defenses of the Church fathers, the author of The Existence of Christ Disproved remarks:

Justin Martyr, Church Father

Augustine, Firmicus, Justin, Tertullian, and others, having perceived the exact resemblance between the religion of Christ and the religion of Mithra, did, with an impertinence only to be equalled by its outrageous absurdity, insist that the devil, jealous and malignant, induced the Persians to establish a religion the exact image of Christianity that was to be—for these worthy saints and sinners of the church could not deny that the worship of Mithra preceded that of Christso that, to get out of the ditch, they summoned the devil to their aid, and with the most astonishing assurance, thus accounted for the striking similarity between the Persian and the Christian religion, the worship of Mithra and the worship of Christ; a mode of getting rid of a difficulty that is at once so stupid and absurd, that it would be almost equally stupid and absurd seriously to refute it.

“It is good practice to steer clear of all information provided by Christian writers: they are not ‘sources,’ they are violent apologists.”

In response to a question about Tertullian’s discussion of the purported Mithraic forehead mark,  Dr. Richard Gordon says:

In general, in studying Mithras, and the other Greco-oriental mystery cults, it is good practice to steer clear of all information provided by Christian writers: they are not “sources,” they are violent apologists, and one does best not to believe a word they say, however tempting it is to supplement our ignorance with such stuff. (Gordon, “FAQ”)

He also cautions about speculation concerning Mithraism and states that “there is practically no limit to the fantasies of scholars,” an interesting admission about the hallowed halls of academia.

Priority: Mithraism or Christianity?

It is obvious from the remarks of the Church fathers and from the literary and archaeological record that Mithraism in some form preceded Christianity by centuries. The fact is that there is no Christian archaeological evidence earlier than the earliest Roman Mithraic archaeological evidence and that the preponderance of evidence points to Christianity being formulated during the second century, not based on a “historical” personage of the early first century. As one important example, the canonical gospels as we have them do not show up clearly in the literary record until the end of the second century.

Mithra’s pre-Christian roots are attested in the Vedic and Avestan texts, as well as by historians such as Herodotus (1.131) and Xenophon (Cyrop. viii. 5, 53 and c. iv. 24), among others. Nor is it likely that the Roman Mithras is not essentially the same as the Indian sun god Mitra and the Persian, Armenian and Phrygian Mithra in his major attributes, as well as some of his most pertinent rites.

Moreover, it is erroneously asserted that because Mithraism was a “mystery cult” it did not leave any written record. In reality, much evidence of Mithra worship has been destroyed, including not only monuments, iconography and other artifacts, but also numerous books by ancient authors. The existence of written evidence is indicated by the Egyptian cloth “manuscript” from the first century BCE called, “Mummy Funerary Inscription of the Priest of Mithras, Ornouphios, Son fo Artemis” or MS 247.

Egyptian Mithra inscription on cloth; 1st century BCE; The Schøyen Collection, www.schoyencollection.com/religionsExtinct2.html

As previously noted, two of the ancient writers on Mithraism are Pallas, and Eubulus, the latter of whom, according to Jerome (Against Jovinianus, 2.14; Schaff 397), “wrote the history of Mithras in many volumes.” Discussing Eubulus and Pallas, Porphyry too related that there were “several elaborate treatises setting forth the religion of Mithra.” The writings of the early Church fathers themselves provide much evidence as to what Mithraism was all about, as do the archaeological artifacts stretching from India to Scotland.

These many written volumes doubtlessly contained much interesting information that was damaging to Christianity, such as the important correspondences between the “lives” of Mithra and Jesus, as well as identical symbols such as the cross, and rites such as baptism and the eucharist. In fact, Mithraism was so similar to Christianity that it gave fits to the early Church fathers, as it does to this day to apologists, who attempt both to deny the similarities and yet to claim that these (non-existent) correspondences were plagiarized by Mithraism from Christianity.

“Regardless of attempts to make Mithraism the plagiarist of Christianity, the fact will remain that Mithraism was first.”

Nevertheless, the god Mithra was revered for centuries prior to the Christian era, and the germane elements of Mithraism are known to have preceded Christianity by hundreds to thousands of years. Thus, regardless of attempts to make Mithraism the plagiarist of Christianity, the fact will remain that Mithraism was first, well established in the West decades before Christianity had any significant influence.

For more information and citations, see The Christ Conspiracy, Suns of God, “Origins of Christianity,” “The ZEITGEIST Sourcebook” and The Christ Myth Anthology. See also the “Mithra: Pagan Christ” forum discussion.


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the Second problem with his assertion as we shall see in a bit however is that not a few modern Iranian Scholars and even Badi Badiozamani a modern Iranian politician have asserted otherwise clearly reflecting Pre Christian Armenean tradition in their claims of Mithra Being born of Anahita his Immaculate Virgin Mother so yes Mithra Is Born from a rock Vermaseren is correct but in pre Christian tradition he was born of a virgin mother so as far as Im concerned the only ones with and agenda are biased Xtian heathens and there slanderous accusations of pious believers copying young boys work and fakestream New Testament "Scholarship" as well as whoever wrote the thayer article.


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"The Persian Counterpart of the Virginal-Wanton-motherly- warrior goddess Anahita" 


Dr Raphael Patai The Hebrew Goddess  (137)



"The basic belief in a virgin born saviour of the world must have become widely known throughout the near east in the achamenid period I.e. from the 6th century BC onward when almost all the mediteranian lands were under persian rule and it appears to have exerted some influence on Judeo-Christian thought"   


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"According to some sources Mithras partner and Virgin mother is the angel goddess Anahita"


Dr Payam Nabarz the Mysteries of Mithras The Pagan belief That Shaped The Christian World



"in Mithraism as in popular Mazdaism Anahid the mother of Mithra is a virgin"


Mohammad Ali Amir Moezzi (78)




“In as much as this person Mehr (Mithra) was born of a virgin named Nahid Anahita (Immaculate) and in as much as the worship of Mithra and Anahita the virgin mother of Mithra was well known in the Achaemenian Period it is not yet clear weather the religion adopted by the Parthians and accepted in many parts of the world was a revival of the old Mithra worship (about 4,000 years ago) or was caused by a religious leader named Mithra.”


Badi Badiozamani Iran: Rekindling A Lost Love (96)



Moreover as we dicussed earlier:  “As Mithraism moved westward it proved a fertile ground for the addition of mystic meaning. Practically all the symbolism of Osiris was added to the Mithraic cultus even to the fact that Isis became the virgin mother of Mithras.” -Religions Of The World by Gerald L. Berry (56)



It is important to note that Dionysus (Osiris) and Isis were the parents of Apollo/Apollyon 😱 and Artemis/Diana in some egyptian cultures as related by the Greek Historian Herodotus and of course Apollo was Syncretized with Mithras during the establishment of Roman Mithraism furthermore Apollon who was identifed with Mithras was concidered the same as Horus son of the Virgin Isis so in other words Horus=Apollo=Mithras and Horus who is the same as Apollo and Mithras is the son of Isis therefore validating the quote by Berry.


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Further Validation of this info comes from the fact that Isis-Hathor, Aphrodite/Venus, Inanna/Ishtar and Athena/Minerva were Syncretized with Anahita in the Interpretatio Graeco/Romana thus meaning Isis, Hathor, Aphrodite, Ishtar and Athena (Neith) are all the same as Anahita Immaculate Virgin Mother of Mithras which by extension makes all of these goddesses Virgin Mothers of Mithras to (at least from a mythological standpoint). Primary sources and citations for these Identifications can be found In the Was Mithras Born of A Virgin Mother? PDF:  https://www.amazon.ca/Was-Mithra-Born-Virgin-Mother-ebook/dp/B004L2LKJI


Even Ignoring all of that Mithras Rock Birth was a Virgin Birth to Mother Earth (Gaia) who was as Margerite Rigoglioso and other scholars have noted was a parthenogenic goddess who gave Virgin Birth to Uranus, Pontus and the Nymphs and then only afterwards married her son Uranus and gave birth to the 12 Titans but even then spontaneously generated a scorpion (Constellation Scorpio) through Sexless Conception to attack Orion.


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Sing the glories of the holy gods to whom death never comes,
the gods born of Gaia and starry Ouranos, …
Chaos was born first and after it came Gaia
the broad-breasted, the firm seat of all
the immortals who hold the peaks of snowy Olympos, …
Gaia now first gave birth to starry Ouranos,
her match in size, to encompass all of her,
and be the firm seat of all the blessed gods.
She gave birth to the tall mountains, enchanting haunts
of the divine nymphs who dwell in the woodlands;
and then she bore Pontos, the barren sea with its raging swell.
All these she bore without mating in sweet love. 


Hesiod, Theogony, in Hesiod: Theogony, Works and Days, Shield, trans. A.N. Athanassakis (Baltimore: The Johns Hopkins University Press, 1983-2004), xii, (14).




"His Theogony describes the transition of power from female to male: from Gaia who gives virgin birth to her husband, to her grandson Zeus who gives solo birth to Athena."


Dr. Diane Rayor, Sappho’s Lyre: Archaic Lyric and Women Poets of Ancient Greece (17) 




"Gaia will continue to reproduce by parthenogenesis."


Dr. Elizabeth Pender, in Plato and Hesiod  (230)






Lastly on the subject of Mithras Virgin Birth we shall be looking at D.N. Boswell's "The Perennial Gospel"  (PP 862-875) (EEEEEW he said PP lol!)


Being a solar deity, Mithras eventually became syncretic with the Orphic primeval luminary god Phanes Protogonus (First-Born).


We can discern the influence of Orphic speculation in a Greek inscription from one of the numerous mithraea in Rome, on a statue-base dedicated Διί Ηλίω Μίθρᾳ Φάνητι, that is to Deus Sol Mithras Phanes. Phanes is the embodiment of unlimited light, an Orphic deity who emerged from the cosmic egg. There is also literary evidence for the syncretism of Mithras with Phanes. In this community, therefore, Mithras’ identification with the sun-god grounded an allusion to the Orphic-Platonic ideas current among the intellectual élites. Mithras-Phanes is also known to us in iconographic form: a relief from Vercovicum (Housesteads) on Hadrian’s Wall shows Mithras emerging from the cosmic egg, which is represented both as such and by the shape of the zodiacal ring. Both complex and straightforward notions thus find a place next to one another in the cult-myths about Mithras’ birth, and are partially interwoven- a point that could be made about any ancient cult. In the case of the birth, some elements are invariable, but variants, regional or local idiosyncrasies, are admissible as well.


Dr. Manfred Clauss, The Roman Cult of Mithras: The God and His Mysteries 2307



The youthful Apolline statue from the Mithraeum of Merida closely resembles the god of the syncretistic relief in the Galleria Estense in Modena which apparently represents the egg-born Orphic god Phanes in his equation with Mithras. This equation is assured by an inscription from Rome (CIMRM 475) and by the close resemblance of the relief from Modena to the one found at Borcovicium-Housesteads which shows Mithras himself.


Dr. Hubertus von Gall, in Études Mithriaques 2308


We can also prove a direct connection between Mithraism and Orphism. In Rome at the foot of the Aventine three Greek inscriptions were discovered, of which the first two were dedicated ‘to the god Helios Mithras’, the third ‘to the god Helios Mithras Phanes’. In this inscription, the Orphic god Phanes is clearly identified with Mithras. Further, in a British Mithras sanctuary


2307 Clauss and Van Essen (1990-2001), 70. (Emph. added.)


2308 Hubertus von Gall, “The Lion-Headed and the Human-Headed God in the Mithraic Mysteries,” in Études Mithriaques, ed. J. Duchesne-Guillemin (Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1978), 522-23. (Emph. added.)


Manfred Clauss, The Roman Cult of Mithras: The God and His Mysteries, trans. R.L. Gordon (New York: Routledge, 1990-2001), 157. 863 (Borcovicium, Chapel Hill) a portrayal of Phanes (or Mithras) was discovered showing him just emerging out of the divided egg shell. Dr. Bartel L. van der Waerden, Science Awakening II: The Birth of Astronomy 2309


2310 based on a marble statue, Roman Imperial Era, currently at the National Museum of Roman Art in Mérida.



2309 Bartel L. van der Waerden, Science Awakening II: The Birth of Astronomy (Leiden: Noordhoff International Publishing, 1974), 176. (Emph. added.) 2310 Reinhold Merkelbach, Mithras: Ein persisch-römischer Mysterienkult (Weinheim: Beltz Athenäum Verlag 1984-94), 327.


2310 Reinhold Merkelbach, Mithras: Ein persisch-römischer Mysterienkult (Weinheim: Beltz Athenäum Verlag 1984-94), 327.


As the previous scholars noted, Mithras is most closely assimilated to Phanes during the birth motif. This establishes several parallels to much older myths & legends already mentioned in this work. For starters, there is the archetype of being born out of heavenly fire/lightning, such as that seen in the premature birth of Dionysus and the conception of Osiris. In a picture surrounding the niche of the Mithraeum at DuraEuropos flames are shooting from the rock and even from the Phrygian cap of Mithras, who holds in either upraised hand a torch. … Compare the flames shooting out from the egg-halfs on the relief showing the birth of Mithras-Phanes at Modena.


Dr. Maarten J. Vermaseren, in Mnemosyne 2311


2311 Maarten J. Vermaseren, “The Miraculous Birth of Mithras,” Mnemosyne: A Journal of Classical Studies, Fourth Series 4, no. 3/4 (1951): 287, n.10.


The assimilation with Phanes also gives Mithras a virgin birth. Recall from pp.65-66 & n.164-65 that it is a scientific fact that snakes are capable of parthenogenesis. Serpentine virgin births have been observed both in captivity and in the wild, therefore the motif has been incorporated into various myths down through the ages. Evidently, the birth of Mithras-Phanes was one such myth. At the beginning of time, Time itself—Chronos—manifested in the form of a monstrous androgynous serpent in a bottomless chasm of primordial aether.2312 Since this was at the beginning of creation, the serpent was all alone in the aether, therefore by default it procreated parthenogenetically. Hence


2312 Gabriela Bijovsky, “AION: A Cosmic Allegory on a Coin from Tyre?” Israel Numismatic Research 2 (2007): 145 n.5, 146. 


the off-spring was also called Protogonus- the First-Born god within time.


Of this Chronos, the ageless one, whose counsels never perish, was born the Aither and a great yawning gulf on this side and on that: and there was no limit to it, no bottom nor foundation. (All things were in confusion) throughout the misty darkness. Then great Chronos fashioned in the divine Aither a silvery egg. And it moved without slackening in a vast circle. And it began to move in a wondrous circle. And at the birth of Phanes the misty gulf below and the windless Aither were rent. First-born, Phaethon, son of lofty Aither. Whom they call Phanes … because he first appeared in the Aither. With four eyes looking this way and that. With golden wings moving this way and that. Uttering the voice of a bull and of a glaring lion.


Orphic Rhapsodic Theogony Fr. 66-79 (1st cen. BCE2313) 2314


According to the second version of the Orphic theogony, Chronos first produced Ether and Chaos. Then, within Ether, he “fabricated” (eteukse) a silver-plated egg. The use of the verb teukhō suggests, not the sexual act, but a craftsmanlike activity, more precisely that of a metalworker, for the egg is described as silver-plated.


Dr. Luc Brisson, Sexual Ambivalence: Androgyny and Hermaphroditism in Graeco-Roman Antiquity 2315


The rock out of which Mithras is born is often shown entwined by a snake, a detail which unmistakably evokes the famous Orphic motif of the snake-entwined cosmic egg out of


2313 Alberto Bernabé, “The Gods in Later Orphism,” in The Gods of Ancient Greece: Identities and Transformations, eds. J.N. Bremmer, A. Erskine (Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press, 2010), 423. Robert McGahey, The Orphic Moment: Shaman to Poet-Thinker in Plato, Nietzsche, and Mallarme (Albany: State University of New York Press, 1994), 21. Martin L. West, The Orphic Poems (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1983), 251.


2314 William K.C. Guthrie, Orpheus and Greek Religion: A Study of the Orphic Movement (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1952-93), 137. (Emph. added.)


2315 Luc Brisson, Sexual Ambivalence: Androgyny and Hermaphroditism in Graeco-Roman Antiquity (Berkeley: University of California, 1997-2002), 90. (Emph. added.)



which the cosmos was formed when the god Phanes emerged from it at the beginning of time.


Dr. David Ulanssey, in Studies in Mithraism 2316



The god of Time is to be considered as the Father of Mithras himself. Mithras is another god of Eternal Time.


Dr. Maarten J. Vermaseren, in Numen 2317


As Phanes, Mithras was virgin born from the primeval serpent of Time when it created a silver-stone egg out of primordial aether, from which Mithras emerged in all his blazing glory. This is very similar to the myth regarding so-called “snake-stones” or “adder-stones.” In ancient times these were thought to be parthenogenetic “wind-eggs” like those produced by birds (see pp.198-201, 615-20), except these stone eggs were believed to have been formed by the hardened saliva & sweat of serpents. Because of their unconventional asexual production, they were thought to have supernatural properties.


There is, moreover, a kind of egg which is very famous in the Gauls, but not mentioned by the Greeks. Snakes intertwined in great numbers in a studied embrace make these round objects with the saliva from their jaws and the foam from their bodies. It is called a “wind egg.” The Druids say that it is tossed aloft by the snakes’ hisses, and that it ought to be caught in a military cloak before it can touch the earth. … I indeed have seen this egg, which was like a round apple of medium size, and remarkable for its hard covering pitted with many gristly cup-hollows, as it were, like those on the tentacles of an octopus. The Druids praise it highly as the giver of victory in the law-courts and of easy access to potentates.


Pliny, Natural History 29.9.52 (1st cen. CE) 2318


That description certainly sounds like a stone, exactly like the stone eggs which Mithras is depicted emerging from at his birth, and is of course also surrounded by the serpent Chronos. No doubt this belief about the origin of adder-stones had some correlation to the birth legend of Phanes/Mithras. Just as earthly serpents can produce both fertile eggs


2316 David Ulansey, “Mithras and the Hypercosmic Sun,” in Studies in Mithraism, ed. J. Hinnells (Rome: “L’Erma” di Brettschneider, 1994), 264.


2317 Maarten J. Vermaseren, “The New Mithraic Temple in London,” Numen: International Review for the History of Religions 2, no. 1/2 (1955): 144.


2318 Pliny, in Rackham (1963), 217-19. and stone eggs parthenogenetically, so also the primeval serpent produced the stone egg of Mithras-Phanes parthenogenetically. Mithras had a virgin birth.


This virgin birth involving stones & serpents is reminiscent of a few other parthenogenetic births covered earlier in this work. There is the virgin birth of Erichthonius to the virgin Athena—who was surrogated by the earth—and emerged in the form of a serpent.2319 In fact, at least one ancient heathen apologist, Jerome of Stridon, noticed the similarity and explicitly likened the birth of Erichthonius to that of Mithras, as both apparently emerged from stone.2320 There is also the parthenogenetic birth of the serpent Python to the titan Gaia.2321 This birth of Mithras likewise has some conspicuous parallels to the birth of Lord Re-Atum from the virgin mother Neith.2322 Recall how He was born in hypostasis as the primeval Kematef serpent,2323 thus the serpentine parallel is there. And just as Chronos created the stone egg of Mithras-Phanes out of the primordial aether, so also the virgin Neith created the pyramidion Benben stone egg2324 out of the primordial Nun to birth Re-Atum. Both of these deities were portrayed as having been the First-Born gods of all creation.2325 Also, Osiris was conflated with both of them, with Mithras through cultural syncretism, and with Re quite literally, physically, when they merge every night to become Osiris-Re.2326 Osiris also happened to have been born of a virgin like Mithras and Re, as shown in chapter 3. So like Lord Amen-Re, Mithras-Phanes was regarded as a primeval deity of light. From the egg out of which he hatched, the top half evolved into the stellar heaven and the bottom half into the earth.2327 Recall from p.48 how at the very beginning of time, before incarnating as Re, the Lord God Amen manifested hypostatically in the likeness of a bull in order to issue forth from His belly the living waters of the primordial Nun. Well it appears that in a similar manner, in the primeval age at the dawn of creation within the Mithraic mythos, there was a cosmic entity


2319 See pp.57-65.

2320 Jerome, Against Jovinian 1.7.

2321 See pp.66-67.

2322 See pp.49-55.

2323 See pp.56-57.

2324 See pp.106-09.

2325 See p.51.

2326 See p.124-30.

2327 Orphic Theogonies Fr. 57, in Athenagoras, Embassy, trans. J.H. Crehan (New York: Paulist Press, 1956), 18.4-5.



Mithra’s birthday on December 25th is so well known that even the Catholic Encyclopedia (“Mithraism”) must admit it: “The 25 December was observed as his birthday, the natalis invicti, the rebirth of the wintersun, unconquered by the rigours of the season.” Catholic Encyclopedia X 404 https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10402a.htm


The earliest church commemorated it at various times from September to March, until in 354 A.D. Pope Julius I assimilated the festival with that of the birth of Mithra (December 25), in order to facilitate the more complete Christianization of the empire. Thomas Thorburn (33)



To those Antichrists who say the 12 Disiples aren't parallel to the 12 houses think again! According to the New Testament Jesus Picked his 12 Apostles based on the 12 tribes of Israel which both the Forgery boy Flavius Josephus and Philo of Alexandria equated with the 12 Zodiacal Houses  



Very simply, “the Twelve” are the signs of the zodiac, metaphorically introduced in the mysteries, and this motif is likely the source of Jesus’s 12. During the very era when Christ had supposedly walked the earth, two prominent Jewish writers, Philo (c. 20 BCE-c. 50 AD/CE) and Josephus (37-c. 100 AD/CE), explained that the 12 Jewish tribes were symbolic of the signs of the zodiac. In Christ in Egypt, Murdock writes: As Josephus says (Antiquities, 3.8): “And for the twelve stones [of Exodus 39:9-14], whether we understand by them the months, or whether we understand the like number of the signs of that circle which the Greeks call the zodiac, we shall not be mistaken in their meaning.” (Josephus/Whiston, 75.) Earlier than Josephus, Philo (“On the Life of Moses,” 12) had made the same comments regarding Moses: “Then the twelve stones on the breast, which are not like one another in colour, and which are divided into four rows of three stones in each, what else can they be emblems of, except of the circle of the zodiac?” (Philo/Yonge, 99.)186 Philo wrote before Christ had supposedly started his ministry, yet he never heard of him. In the meantime, he had heard of the 12 tribes representing the zodiacal signs, and we subsequently read the suggestion in the gospel (Mt 19:28) that Jesus allegedly picked his disciples based on the tribes, which were in turn, according to Philo and Josephus, equated with the zodiacal 12. (for more info read Murdock, CIE, 261-262.)


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Concerning the Twelve within Mithraism, Murdock says: Mithra surrounded by the 12 “companions” is a motif found on many Mithraic remains and representing the 12 signs of the zodiac. The comparison of this common motif with Jesus and the 12 has been made on many occasions, including in an extensive study entitled, “Mithras and Christ: some iconographical similarities,” by Professor A. Deman in the same volume of Mithraic Studies Murdock, RZC, 20.


The point here is not whether or not these companions are depicted as interacting in the same manner as the disciples of Jesus but that the theme of the god or godman with the 12 surrounding him is common enough—and with very popular deities in the same region—to have served as a precedent for the Christian Twelve with Christ at their center. It surely would have struck any intelligent and half-way educated member of the Roman Empire as very odd when Christians attempted to tell their supernatural tales of a Jewish godman with 12 companions, in consideration of the fact that there were already so many of these saviors in variety of cultures.



Regarding Mithra’s miracles, Mithraic Studies editor John R. Hinnells states: ...the side panels of many Mithraic reliefs and paintings are interpreted as representations of the primeval life of the god, in which he performed miracles, experience various adventures, and celebrated an archetypal communion meal before he ascended to heaven. Hinnells 291.


In the Roman Empire, Mithraism became the cult of the undertakers guild. Hence, there was a focus on death and the afterlife, experienced in myth and ritual. In discussing the death-oriented Mithraic rituals, professor of New Testament and Early Christian Literature at the University of Chicago Rev. Dr. Harold R. Willoughby cites Church father Tertullian and remarks: A simulation of death in the Mithraic mysteries…is perfectly intelligible. Death was the logical preliminary to a renewal of life; hence the pretence of death by the neophyte was a perfectly natural antecedent to the regenerative experiences of baptism and sacramental communion that followed in the Mithraic ritual. That this was precisely the interpretation put upon this bit of liturgical fiction is clearly suggested by a passage in Tertullian. In discussing the Mithraic rites of baptism and communion, the Christian lawyer affirmed: “Mithra there brings in the symbol of a resurrection.” This striking use of the phrase imago resurrection is doubly significant. It proves that a simulation of death was an integral part of Mithraic ritual, and also that it was but antecedent to an experience of regeneration. Willoughby, 110-111.


"Dupuis tells us that Mithra was put to death by crucifixion, and rose again on the 25th of March. In the Persian Mysteries the body of a young man, apparently dead, was exhibited, which was feigned to be restored to life. By his sufferings he was believed to have worked their salvation, and on this account he was called their Saviour. His priests watched his tomb to the midnight of the vigil of the 25th of March, with loud cries, and in darkness; when all at once the light burst forth from all parts, the priest cried, Rejoice, O sacred initiated, your God is risen. His death, his pains, and sufferings have worked your salvation." JP Lundy Monumental Christianity (168)



"On Black Friday (cf. Good Friday) the taurobolium, or bull-slaying, was represented. At this festival, the sacrament often comprised blood drinking. Mithras, worn out by the battle was symbolically represented by a stone image lain on a bier as a corpse. He was mourned for in liturgy, and placed in a sacred rock tomb called “Petra,” from which he was removed after three days in a great festival of rejoicing." Religions Of The World by Gerald L. Berry (57)




"...for centuries Mihragān...was celebrated in the spring. For many generations, therefore, Mithra’s feast was observed at a time traditionally associated with the Zoroastrian feast of the resurrection." Hinnells, I, 108.


 “The Zoroastrian theologians are indeed recorded as saying...that as an autumn feast Mihragān was a symbol of resurrection and the end of the world...Hinnells, I, 114.




John R Hinnels quoting Mary Boyce





Among other titles, Mithra was said to be, “Mighty in strength, mighty rulers, greatest king of gods! O Sun, lord of heaven and earth, God of Gods!”194 He was also called “the mediator.” Mithra shared many such epithets with Christ, as Berry demonstrates: Both Mithras and Christ were described variously as “the way,” “the truth,” “the light,” “the life,” “the word,” “the son of god,” “the good shepherd...” In this same regard, Iranian scholar Dr. Payam Nabarz states, “Mithras is described as the lord of wide pastures, the lord of truth and contracts.” And Dr. Marvin Meyers, a professor of Religious Studies at Chapman College, says: Already among the ancient Indo-Iranian peoples, Mithras was known as a god of light, truth, and integrity.... The Avesta calls Mithra “the lord of wide pastures”...



Legge, II, 266.  

De Jong, 172.  

Berry, 57.  

Nabarz, 25.  

Meyer, 199.


The Mithraic sacred day being Sunday represents a well-known tradition. As the Catholic Encyclopedia states, “Sunday was kept holy in honour of Mithra…” Berry concurs: Since Mithras was a sun-god, Sunday was automatically sacred to him—the “Lords Day”—long before Christ. Dr. Ezquerra also states, “Some say the Lord’s Day was celebrated on Sunday because that was the Dies Solis, the day of the Sun, which in turn had something to do with Mithraism.” Concerning Mithraism and Christianity, the Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia summarizes: The birth of Mithra and of Christ were celebrated on the same day; tradition placed the birth of both in a cave; both regarded Sunday as sacred; in both the central figure was a mediator (mesitēs) who was one of a triad or trinity; in both there was a sacrifice for the benefit of the race... If tradition in India is an indication, this celebration of Mithra’s sacred time on Sunday possibly dates back to Vedic ages, 3,000 or more years ago, with his Indian counterpart Mitra being celebrated into modern times on this day as well: “...the deity is invoked every Sunday under the name of Mitra in a small pitcher placed on a small earthen platform...”


Berry, 57.  

Ezquerra, 409.  

Jackson, S., VII, 419.  

Gonda, 131





So as we can see Religion For Breakfast, Inspiring Philososphy, Mike Winger, Steven Bancarz, Frank Turek (Taurus), The Sinful Heathen who accused us of Plagerism and the AntiChrist/Servant Of Mainyu who wrote the Thayer article are *Ahem*




Next: Jesus Vs Dionysus!


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More Uninspiring Blashemeys to refute *Sigh:



Now lets see what other "Obstinant Heathens" have to say against the faith of our LAWD!!! 😱





Well you heard It YOUSELVES!!! The Blasphemers against Osiris-Dionysus as our Lord have officially disproved our faith!!!! Oh wait except these "Wicked Devils" have not destroyed us YET!!! let us fact check these sinners and prove who the TRUE GOD really IS!!!! In all seriousness lets begin and see if there right!




Um... Romulus and Remus had a father, the god Mars. Their mother was a vestal virgin, yes, but there was no parthenogenesis involved. Dionysus was the son of Zeus. His mother Semele was not a virgin; Hera, disguised as a neighbour, talked her into demanding to see who he really was, then refusing him further access to her bed. Jason has a father too, King Aeson. There is a long list of possible mothers. Recommended: Robert Graves’ book The Greek Myths.


No doubt there are plenty of virgin birth stories, but those are not among them, I’m afraid.



Here is my response to this "Paganism"


I disagree while It is true they had a father Mars but in the first place we are discussing Mythology and these contradictions such as being a vestal virgin and yet also being impregnated with two divine children happen all the time in ancient myth as already covered earlier.


“If our Christ-cultists say that their Jesus Christ was born miraculously from a virgin who had known no men, likewise the pagans had already said that Romulus and Remus, the founders of Rome, were miraculously born of a vestal virgin named Ilia, Sylvia, or Rhea Sylvia. They had already said that Mars, Vulcan, Argus, and others were born of Juno, who had no knowledge of men.”

 Jean Meslier (1729), The Testament (pg. 129)


While Semele may not have been referred to as a Virgin in ancient texts she is considered to be a Virgin mother by many scholars such as Edmund Ronald Leach, Marguerite Rigoglioso, Edward Carpenter and Joseph Campbell Just to name a few and in one myth Semele is  impregnated with Dionysus through a flash of lightning as related in Euripedes "The Bacchae"  and in another through drinking Bacchus’s severed heart in the form of a potion (Hyginus Fabulae 167) both rather obvious Virgin Births that debunk these "heathens" first point. Also on a side note speaking of Robert Graves Even the Randy Zeus according to Graves and Margerite Rigoglioso was a Virgin Father who gave birth parthenogenically.



"Dionysus, son of Zeus, is born of a mortal virgin, Semele, who later became immortalized through the intervention of her divine son; Jesus, son of God, is born of a mortal virgin, Mary… such stories can be duplicated over and over again." Edmund Ronald Leach Hugh Jones 108


"While the maiden goddess sat there, peacefully weaving a mantle on which there was to be a representation of the universe, her mother contrived that Zeus should learn of her presence; he approached her in the form of an immense snake. And the virgin conceived the ever-dying, everliving god of bread and wine, Dionysus, who was born and nurtured in that cave, torn to death as a babe and resurrected..." Campbell, MG, 27.



“Semele was also likely a holy parthenos by virtue of the fact that she gave birth to Dionysus via her union with Zeus (Hesiod, Theogony 940) Margerite Rigoglioso The Cult of the Divine Birth in Ancient Greece (95)


"Dionysus, like other Sun or Nature deities, was born of a Virgin (Semele or Demeter) untainted by any earthly husband" Edward Carpanter Pagan and Christisn Creeds (65)


So there you have it Semele is a Virgin Mother of Dionysus/Osiris but were not done yet however.... As we have seen from Anne Baring, Arthur Maurice Canney, William Sheperd Walsh and other sources Demeter herself the Greek Equivelent of Isis was a Virgin Mother couple this with her role as mother of Persephone and the fact that Zeus-Ammon and Demeter are the parents of Iacchus/Dionysus in the Elusinian Mysteries and thus Demeter by union of Jupiter/Amen Ra is the Virgin mother of both Persephone and Dionysus in some myths. 


Furthermore Dionysus in the religion of Orphism was potrayed as being the son of Zeus and Persephone/Kore who as we have noted from Joseph Campbell is styled a "Virgin Goddess" who gave birth to the year God Aion who was quite often equted with Dionysus and Kore as we have seen much much earlier was a "hellinzed transformation of Isis" also Plutarch equated Serapis with Pluto and Persephone as Isis   


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Also Demeter and Persephone were Joint goddesses and Kore was merely an extension of her mother meaning the 2 goddesses are more or less the same meaning that If Isis is Equivalent to Demeter as per Herodotus and other ancient authors than Isis is also identicle to Persephone to.


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More over here is what Epiphaneus the Early Church Father had to say on this matter:


"On this day, i.e. on the eighth day before the Calends of January, the Greeks...celebrate a feast that the Romans call Saturnalia, the Egyptians Cronia and the Alexandrines Cicellia. The reason is that the eighth day before the Calends of January forms a dividing-line, for on it occurs the solstice; the day begins to lengthen again and the sun shines longer and with increasing strength until the eighth day before the Ides of January, viz., until the day of Christ’s nativity... The principal of [the] feasts is that which takes place in the so-called Koreion in Alexandria, this Koreion being a mighty temple in the district sacred to Kore. Throughout the whole night the people keep themselves awake here by singing certain hymns and by means of the flute-playing which accompanies the songs they sing to the image of their god. When they have ended these nocturnal celebrations, then at morning cock-crow they descend, carrying torches, into a sort of chapel which is below ground and thence they carry up a wooden image of one lying naked upon a bier. This image has upon its forehead a golden cross and two more such seals in the form of crosses one on each hand... If anyone asks them what manner of mysteries these might be, they reply, saying: “Today at this hour Kore, that is the virgin, has given birth to Aion.” Such things also occur in Petra... The hymns they sing are in the Arabic tongue and are in praise of a virgin whom they call “Chaamu” which is the same as Kore or Parthenos, and in praise of her child “Dusares” which means “Only son of the ruler of all.” The same thing happens on this same night in Alexandria, in Petra and also in the city of Elusa" Hugo Rahner Greek Myth and Christian Mystery (137-38)  For a lengthy discussion of this important passage in Epiphanius, which was edited out of the Migne edition, see Murdock, CIE, 84-88.


Parthenos being the greek word for Virgin!


"This date is not derived from the New Testament which is silent on this matter it my have been chosen in concious opposition to a celebration held in Alexandria on the night of January 5th and the morning of January 6 in honor of the birth of the god Aeon from the Virgin Goddess Kore" Opening the Bible essays by Howard H Charles (129)




As a title "Parthenos" was apropriate to Demeter and Persephone Donald White (183)


Margerite Rigoglioso has an entire chapter about Demeter and Persephone In Virgin Mother Goddesses of Antiquity called  Demeter and Persephone: Double Goddesses of Parthenogenesis (99-191)


Finally when one conciders the fact that A) Vulcan and Minerva a goddess whose virginity was so well known she had a temple called "Parthenon" built in her honor are parents of Apollo in the earliest greek cultures as related by Cicero in On The Nature Of The Gods Book III and the fact that Arnobius an early Christian writer and Macrobius a latin writer both Noted Dionysus equation to Apollo/Helios the Graeco Roman Sun God further proving Dionysus/Bacchus's Solar Nature  


" in Seven Books Against the Heathen (3.33), early Christian writer Arnobius (284-305) remarks that the Pagans “maintain that Bacchus, Apollo, the Sun, are one deity” and “the sun is also Bacchus and Apollo.” "


"But given the earlier proof that Apollo and the sun are the same and the subsequent demonstration that Father Liber is the same as Apollo there can be no doubt but that the sun and father Liber must be considered aspects of the same godhead they observe the holy mysteries in the rites by calling by calling the sun Apollo when it is in the upper (that is daytime) hemisphere when it is in the lower (that is night-time) hemisphere it is considered Dionysus who is Liber" Macrobius/Kaster 1.249


and when one also notes the fact that as we discussed earlier Neith is the Virgin Mother of Osiris and Neith was Identified with Athena/Minerva and Osiris with Dionysus/Bacchus it is for these reasons that mythologicaly speaking Athena can be considered by union of Hepheastus the Virgin Mother of Dionysus/Bacchus


Also Athena according to Raphals was a Sea Goddess and this would have earned her the latin epithet of Mare

 Lisa Raphals Knowing Words: Wisdom and Cunning in the Classical Traditions of China and Greece, Cornell University Press, 1992. (217)


Thus would have been concidered born of the virgin "Mare-y" (Mary) in some myths


Also because of the fact that Demeter and Persephone were identified with Isis who inturn was equated with Venus and the fact that Hathor was the Virgin Mother of Osiris and of course Hathor=Aphrodite/Venus and Osiris=Dionysus/Bacchus It would therefore mean mythologically speaking Aphrodite would have been the Virgin Mother of Dionysus in some myths and she also had the epithet Mare to so yet another "Mary" Dionysus would have been born of...


 So in any event he is born of the union of a God (Zeus/Juptier or Hephestus/Vulcan) and a Virgin Mother (Semele, Demeter/Ceres, Persephone/Kore, Aphrodite/Venus or Athena/Minerva) so checkmate Villain to the one true Faith!


Here is what my online freind  Reverand D.N Boswell had to say about Athena in "The Perrenial Gospel" (PP 60-65) (EWWW He said PP Again! lolz) 


May that life-giving serpent of God be exalted and lifted up: that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. Since Neith is the Holy Mother of God, Amen-Re, she is by default the mother of His hypostases as well. Thus by extension Neith was the virgin mother of a divine serpent. In the Greek mythology of Athena, there existed a version in which she was the mother of Ericthonius, sometimes called Erechtheus. This myth is referenced to at least as far back as Homer (8th cen. BCE).149 The two most detailed accounts include the version preserved in the work known as “The Library of Apollodorus” (1st cen. CE150), 3.14.6, as well as the version of Euripides (5th cen. BCE151), as preserved by Hyginus in Astronomica 2.13, and alluded to in Euripides’ own work Ion, 1.20-26, 268-74, 999-1009, & 1428-29. Based on those accounts, the story goes that Hephaistos/Vulcan attempted to rape Athena, but in an effort to preserve her virginity, she fought him off, and he ejaculated on her thigh. She wiped away the seed and buried it in the earth. Apparently, the mingling of her skin flakes with the seed of Hephaistos gave rise to Ericthonius, who sprang forth out of the earth. Because he came forth from the earth, some versions depict the earth goddess, Gaia, acting as Athena’s surrogate, returning Ericthonius back to his true mother as soon as he is born.152 In other versions, he arises


149 Homer, The Iliad, trans. Ian Johnston (Arlington: Richer Resources Publications, 2006-07), 45. “Athens, land of proud Erectheus, whom Athena raised, after he was born out of the harvest land.”


150 Michael Simpson, Gods & Heroes of the Greeks: The Library of Apollodorus Translated with Introduction and Notes (Amherst: University of Massachusetts Press, 1976), 1. Luke Roman, Monica Roman, Encyclopedia of Greek and Roman Mythology (New York: Facts On File, Inc., 2010), 301. Wendy Cotter, Miracles in Graeco-Roman Antiquity: A Sourcebook (New York: Taylor & Francis, 1999-2003), 13, 26.


151 Giannis Stamatellos, Introduction to Presocratics: A Thematic Approach to Early Greek Philosophy with Key Readings (Oxford: John Wiley & Sons, Inc., 2012), 119.


152 Larissa Bonfante, “Nursing Mothers in Classical Art,” in Naked Truths: Women, Sexuality, and Gender in Classical Art and Archaeology, eds. A.O. Kolowski-Ostrow and C.L. Lyons (London: Taylor & Francis, 1997-2004), 189 n.4. 61


directly from out of the soil in the form of a serpent (Fig. 9), thus serving as somewhat of a parallel to Neith’s virgin motherhood of Amen-Re and his hypostasis as the Kematef serpent. This can be seen in the statue known as Athéna à la ciste, located in the Louvre Museum in Paris, France (Fig. 10). It is a Roman replica of a late 5th century BCE Greek original, in the style of the artist Cephisodotus. The statue depicts Athena standing upright, while holding in her left arm a basket, or ciste, which contains an infant serpent. The basket along with the state of infancy makes the identity obvious—the serpent here is Erichthonius, as the museum affirms.153 The serpent form of the son of Athena is also verified by the giant statue once located at the Parthenon commonly referred to as the Athena Parthenos. The original was sculpted by the famous artist Pheidias in around 438 BCE.154 While this work is no longer extant, its general appearance has been preserved through descriptions in texts and replications on coins, plates, statues, and other works. It depicts Athena in warrior mode, clad in armor, with shield and spear, accompanied by her serpent child. Among the earliest examples of such a replica is a terracotta disk (Fig. 11), dated to around 400-375 BCE.155 As Dr. Jeffrey M. Hurwit describes it:


Camp, 1996, announced the discovery in the Agora of an early fourth-century terracotta token or disk with a small version of the Athena Parthenos in relief. This image – one of the earliest extant representations of the statue – shows the Athena without a


Liz Locke, Eurydice’s Body: Feminist Reflections of the Orphic Descent Myth in Philosophy and Film (Bloomington: Indiana University, 2000), 126.


153 Musée du Louvre, “Athéna à la ciste,” http://cartelfr.louvre.fr/cartelfr/visite?srv=car_not&idNotice=847 (accessed October 14, 2012). Pierre Brûlé, La fille d’Athènes: La religion des filles à Athènes à l’époque classique (Paris: Mythes, cultes et société, 1987), 69-70.


154 Jenifer Neils, “Phidias,” in The Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Greece and Rome Vol. 4, eds. M. Gagarin and E. Fantham (New York: Oxford University Press, 2010), 242.


155 John M. Camp, The Archaeology of Athens (New Haven: Yale University Press, 2001), 80. 62


supporting column beneath the outstretched right hand; instead, the snake appears there.156 Another early depiction of the Athena Parthenos can be seen in Figure 12. It illustrates a proxeny decree in honor of Philiskos Lykou of Sestos, is currently at the National Archaeological Museum of Athens, and dated to around 354 BCE.157 Although significantly damaged, the serpent can still be seen behind the shield of Athena, beneath her left arm where she is holding a figure of Nike, Athena herself being positioned in the center of the scene.

158 A more detailed replica of Pheidias’ statue is also to be found at the aforementioned museum. It is known as the Varvakeion Athena and it is a Roman reproduction dated to the 2nd century CE,159 illustrated in Fig. 13. Once again, the serpent can be seen located behind the shield. The identity of Pheidias’ serpent was preserved by Pausanias, and it was indeed explicitly known to be that of her son, Ericthonius: As you enter the temple that they name the Parthenon, … The statue of Athena is upright, with a tunic reaching to the feet, and on her breast the head of Medusa is worked in ivory. She holds a statue of Victory about four cubits high, and in the other hand a spear; at her feet lies a shield and near the spear is a serpent. This serpent would be Erichthonius. 160 While the means by which Athena produced Ericthonius might at first glance seem slightly convoluted when reading accounts of it, the fact that this ancient myth was indeed understood to be a virgin birth by a celibate goddess is affirmed by the 1st century sage, Apollonius of Tyana.


156 Jeffrey M. Hurwit, The Athenian Acropolis: History, Mythology, and Archaeology from the Neolithic Era to the Present (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1999), 330 n.78.


157 Carol L. Lawton, “Athenian anti-Macedonian sentiment and democratic ideology in Attic document reliefs in the second half of the fourth century B.C.,” in The Macedonians in Athens: 322-229 B.C., eds. O. Palagia and S.V. Tracy, (Oxford: Oxbow Books, 2003), 119.


158 Hurwit (1999), 53, 330 n.78. 159 John Freely, Strolling Through Athens: Fourteen Unforgettable Walks Through Europe’s Oldest City (London: I.B. Tauris & Co. Ltd, 1991-2004), 290.


160 Pausanias, Description of Greece: Books 1-2, trans. W.H.S. Jones (London: William Heinemann Ltd., and Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1918-92), 123-25. (Emph. added.) 63 Fig. 10: Athéna à la ciste, on her left bosom can be seen her infant son Erichthonios, again in serpent form. Fig. 11 64 Fig. 12 Fig. 13 65 According to his disciple Damis,161 as later preserved by Philostratus, the following conversation occurred while Apollonius was in prison:


Another man said that he was under indictment because when sacrificing in Tarentum, where he was a magistrate, he had not added to the public prayers the fact that Domitian was the son of Athena. “You,” said Apollonius, “thought that Athena could not have children as a perpetual virgin, but you seem to have forgotten that this goddess once gave birth to a snake for the Athenians.” 162


So not only was Athena considered a virgin mother of a divine serpent as early as the 5th century BCE, but even during the 1st century CE there was a belief that she also gave virgin birth to human kings as well. Also, in his letter to Sais, this same Apollonius affirmed that Athena was identical to Neith:


To the people of Sais: You are descendants of the Athenians, so Plato says in the Timaeus. They however banish from Attica the goddess whom they share with you, called Neith by you and Athena by them.163


Thus, by extension, he affirmed that Neith was indeed a virgin mother, the very same whom he claimed had borne a serpent child. The association between serpents, parthenogenesis, and divine birth is a recurring theme in mythology, several examples of which will come up again throughout this book. One possible origin for this serpentine connection to virgin birth is nature itself. In fact, just recently the scientific journal Biology Letters, of The Royal Society, published a paper affirming the occurrence of facultative parthenogenesis in snakes in the wild. 164 Of course, this had already been observed among snakes


161 Philostratus, Apollonius of Tyana, Volume II: Life of Apollonius of Tyana, Books 5-8, ed. and trans. Christopher P. Jones (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 2005), 261.


162 Ibid. 269-271. (Emph. added.)


163 Apollonius of Tyana, Apollonius of Tyana, Volume III: Letters of Apollonius, Ancient Testimonia, Eusebius’ Reply to Hierocles, ed. and trans. Christopher P. Jones (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 2006), 65.


164 Warren Booth et al., “Facultative Parthenogenesis Discovered in Wild Vertebrates,” Biology Letters 8, no. 6 (2012): 983-5.




t is wise at this point to recall that in the ancient world many gods were confounded and compounded, deliberately or otherwise. Some were even considered interchangeable, such as Osiris, Horus and Ra. In this regard, Plutarch (35, 364E) states, “Osiris is identical with Dionysus.” Thus, Zeus’s son Dionysus or Bacchus was considered the Greek rendition of Osiris: Dionysus became the universal savior-god of the ancient world. And there has never been another like unto him: the first to whom his attributes were accredited, we call Osiris: with the death of paganism, his central characteristics were assumed by Jesus Christ. Dionysus is likewise identified with the god Aion and also referred to as “Zeus Sabazius” in other traditions. Hence, we would expect him to share in at least some of all these gods’ attributes.


 Plutarch/Babbitt, 85.

 Larson, 82.

 Graves, R., WG, 335.



As with Jesus, December 25th and January 6th are both traditional birth dates related to Dionysus and simply represent the period of the winter solstice. Concerning these dates, Murdock remarks: The winter-solstice date of the Greek sun and wine god Dionysus was originally recognized in early January but was eventually placed on December 25th, as related by Macrobius. Regardless, the effect is the same: The winter sun god is born around this time, when the [shortest day of the year] begins to become longer….Murdock, The 2010 Astrotheology Calendar, 44.


Murdock also says: The birthday of Dionysus can be listed on both the 5th and 6th of January, while the god Aion who is born on January 6th is called by Joseph Campbell a “syncretistic personification of Osiris.” Dionysus was likewise identified with both Aion and Osiris in ancient times. In antiquity too, Jesus Christ’s nativity was also placed on the 6th or 7th of January, when it remains celebrated in some factions of the Orthodox Church, such as Armenia, as well as the Coptic Church. Concerning these dates, Christian theologian Dr. Hugo Rahner remarks: As to the dates, Norden has shown that the change from January 6 to December 25 can be explained as the result of the reform introduced by the more accurate Julian calendar into the ancient Egyptian calculation which had fixed January 6 as the date of the winter solstice. It thus appears that in ancient times these dates of January 5, 6 and 7 represented the winter solstice, which is fitting for sun gods. Indeed, Macrobius later places Dionysus’s birth on December 25th, again appropriate for a sun god. Murdock, 2AC, 36.


Jesuit theologian Dr. Rahner further states: ...in the Hellenistic East, and with Alexandria evidently taking the lead, a mystery was enacted that concerned the birth of Aion by a virgin and that this mystery took place on the night leading to January 6. It is quite immaterial whether the object of the cult in question was really Dionysus Aion or some other deity. Epiphanius, quoting other ancient writers, tells us elsewhere that the birthday of Dionysus was celebrated on January 5 and 6, though in the present instance it may well have been that of Osiris or Harpocrates-Horus. It matters very little, since the tendency in these late Hellenistic days was for the identities of gods, all of whom were beginning to take on the character of a solar deity, to become merged with one another. We know that Aion was at this time beginning to be regarded as identical with Helios and Helios with Dionysus… Greek Myth and Christian Mystery (139)






The miracles of Dionysus are legendary, as is his role as the god of wine, echoed in the later Christian story of Jesus multiplying the jars of wine at the wedding feast of Cana (Jn 2:1-9). Concerning this miracle, biblical scholar Dr. A.J. Mattill remarks: This story is really the Christian counterpart to the pagan legends of Dionysus, the Greek god of wine, who at his annual festival in his temple of Elis filled three empty kettles with wine—no water needed! And on the fifth of January wine instead of water gushed from his temple at Andros. If we believe Jesus’ miracle, why should we not believe Dionysus’s? Tim Leedom The Book Your Church doesn't want you to read (125)


As the god of the vine, Dionysus is depicted in ancient texts as traveling around teaching agriculture, as well as doing various miracles, such as in Homer’s The Iliad, dating to the 9th century BCE, and in The Bacchae of Euripides, the famous Greek playwright who lived around 480 to 406 BCE. In addition, Dionysus’s miracle of changing water to wine is also recounted in pre-Christian times by Diodorus (Library of History, 3.66.3). DM Murdock The Real Zeitgeist Challange (18)



In Bible Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions, Doane asserts, “Bacchus, the offspring of Jupiter and Semele was called the ‘Savior,’ ...he was called the ‘Only Begotten Son Thomas Doane (193) The title of “savior” or Soter was applied to many Greek and other gods prior to the Christian era. (It should be noted that what is deemed the “Christian era” is not the same as the “common era,” because there are to this day places where Christianity has not been heard of; hence, they remain pre-Christian.)


Regarding Dionysus’s many divine epithets, Murdock states:

In an Orphic hymn, Phanes-Dionysus is styled by the Greek title Protogonos or “first-born” of Zeus, also translated at times as “only-begotten son,” although the term Monogenes would be more appropriately rendered as the latter. 


As concerns the epithet “King of Kings,” noted anthropologist Sir James G. Frazer tells us that the Neoplatonist Proclus (5th cent. AD/CE) related: Dionysus was the last king of the gods appointed by Zeus. For his father set him on the kingly throne, and placed in his hand the scepter, and made him king of all the gods of the world. In the case of Dionysus/Bacchus being labeled the “Alpha and Omega,” here is one instance where not knowing foreign languages would make the sources difficult to access, as we are told in French by Rev. Isaac de Beausobre that there is an ancient inscription in which Dionysus/Bacchus says, “I am the Alpha and Omega" Histoire critique de Manichée et du manichéisme, Volume 2 (56) 


https://books.google.ca/books?id=2ycVAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA56&dq="c'est+moi,+qui+vous+conserve"+beausobre&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2lfuU-DXMI_5oASwmYHwAg&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q="je fuis alpha"&f=false



The title “King of Kings” and other epithets may reflect Dionysus’s kinship with Osiris: During the late 18th to early 19th dynasties (c. 1300 BCE), Osiris’s epithets included, “the king of eternity, the lord of everlastingness, who traverseth millions of years in the duration of his life, the firstborn son of the womb of Nut, begotten of Seb, the prince of gods and men, the god of gods, the king of kings, the lord of lords, the prince of princes, the governor of the world whose existence is for everlasting.


Budge, EBD (1967), liii.


While it is true that Dionysus didn't have 12 disiples he was part of the 12 Olympians "None of the earlier emperors seems to have associated himself directly with the Twelve Gods . ... B . C . , but the exposition of the complete system relating the Olympians to the months and the zodiac belongs to the first century after Christ"  Charlotte R Long 12 Gods of ancient Greece and Rome (274)


The number 12 is made up of the sphere of the fixed stars , the seven known planets ( including sun and moon ) , three regions or zones of aether , air ... seen here an allusion to the twelve signs of the Zodiac , or rather to the twelve deities guarding4 or inhabiting them . ... whom Plato may have known as early as the date of the Phaedrus , identified these deities with the twelve Olympians ; and there is ... Plato: Phaedrus - Page 74 Plato, ‎R. Hackforth - 1972



The Key of Destiny - Page 42


Harriette A. Curtiss, ‎F. Homer Curtiss - 1996


Nothing could more plainly indicate that the ancient Egyptians possessed a knowledge of the zodiac and planetary influences in ... The fundamental idea of number 12 relating to the Manifestation of the Trinity within a cycle of expression ( manvantara ) ... Thus , not only are there the 12 sons of Jacob who founded the 12 tribes of Israel , but there are 12 princes of Ishmael ; 3 the 12 Olympian deities ; the 12 ...


So in other words the 12 Olympians are parallel to the twelve houses of the Zodiac and to those who say the 12 Disiples aren't parallel to the 12 houses think again!


According to the New Testament Jesus Picked his 12 Apostles based on the 12 tribes of Israel which both the Forgery boy Flavius Josephus and Philo of Alexandria equated with the 12 Zodiacal Houses  



Very simply, “the Twelve” are the signs of the zodiac, metaphorically introduced in the mysteries, and this motif is likely the source of Jesus’s 12. During the very era when Christ had supposedly walked the earth, two prominent Jewish writers, Philo (c. 20 BCE-c. 50 AD/CE) and Josephus (37-c. 100 AD/CE), explained that the 12 Jewish tribes were symbolic of the signs of the zodiac. In Christ in Egypt, Murdock writes: As Josephus says (Antiquities, 3.8): “And for the twelve stones [of Exodus 39:9-14], whether we understand by them the months, or whether we understand the like number of the signs of that circle which the Greeks call the zodiac, we shall not be mistaken in their meaning.” (Josephus/Whiston, 75.) Earlier than Josephus, Philo (“On the Life of Moses,” 12) had made the same comments regarding Moses: “Then the twelve stones on the breast, which are not like one another in colour, and which are divided into four rows of three stones in each, what else can they be emblems of, except of the circle of the zodiac?” (Philo/Yonge, 99.)186 Philo wrote before Christ had supposedly started his ministry, yet he never heard of him. In the meantime, he had heard of the 12 tribes representing the zodiacal signs, and we subsequently read the suggestion in the gospel (Mt 19:28) that Jesus allegedly picked his disciples based on the tribes, which were in turn, according to Philo and Josephus, equated with the zodiacal 12. (for more info read Murdock, CIE, 261-262.)


Thus the 12 Disiples/Apostles are also parallel to the 12 houses of the Zodiac there for Dionysus/Iacchus being part of the 12 Olympians is parallel to Jesus having 12 followers so I guess our Villainous fornicator and villain of the faith will have to repent to Osiris/Dionysus or face an Egyptian lake of fire FOREVER!!!! 😱


Lake of Fire - Ancient Egyptian Afterlife


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According to Wikipedia "The 1995 edition of the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia says that the Egyptian lake of fire is too remote to be relevant to the use of "lake of fire" in the Book of Revelation." 


So in other words an encylopedia says that its too remote to be a parallel and that therefore that must magically make it too remote to form a parallel (*Facepalm)



For more Info in regards to the 12 concerning Ra/Osiris/Horus and Dionysus/Bacchus I shall refere you to Christ In Egypt and The Perrenial Gospel by Murdock and Boswell respectively.


In regards to Dionysus or Bacchus's Crucifixion there has been quite the Controversy mainly because an object presented in the film The Orpheus Bakkikos has been biasedly assailed as a forgery by "Nostalgia Critics" here is what it looks like:



ΑΝΤΙΓΡΑΦΗ-ΕΠΙΚΟΛΛΗΣΗ: Το θρυλικό αρχαιολογικό εύρημα γνωστό ως »σταυρωμένος  Ορφέας επί άγκυρας»



Luckily Acharya S In her Pre Christian God on A Cross PDF: https://stellarhousepublishing.com/product/a-pre-christian-god-on-a-cross/


and Francesco Carotta the author of Jesus was Caeser: on the Julian Origins of Christianity An investigative Report in a pdf he wrote:



both soundly debunked the forgery claims. 




However Carrottas work and the parallels between Julius Caeser and Jesus Christ  we shall discuss much much later....


War Jesus Caesar? 2000 Jahre Anbetung einer Kopie.: Carotta, Francesco:  9783442150519: Amazon.com: Books



Saying, “Jesus is Lord,” is a Political Statement | Floods of Justice


Jesus was Caesar - Crux



And All though it is true that the Orpheus Bakkikos Gem was created 2-300 years after Christianity began it is evidently Post Christian continuation of an evidently Pre Christian Tradition as there many Images of Bacchus that potray him as being affixed to or hanging on a post or tree as we shall see from various vases dated back to 600-300 BCE:


The Dionysian Mysteries - Dionysus crucified on a cross-tree as initiates  take bread and wine" | Esoteric symbols, Cross tree, Greek gods and  goddesses


Worshippers sacrificing in front of an image of Dionysus at My Favourite  Planet | Ancient greek pottery, Greek pottery, Greek vases


The Cult - Theater of dionysus


500 BCE Vase of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ - Biblical Criticism &  History Forum - earlywritings.com


The Jesus Parallels



Jesus And Dionysus - The Parallels Between Both Mythologies




The Dying-and-Rising Gods: Dionysus



Moreover it Is Important to Note Dionysus Connection to Osiris who was also potrayed in Cruciform as the Djed Pillar


The sacred symbol of the Djed pillar | Ancient Origins


Djed Pillar With Crook And Flail. Colored Hieroglyph, Ancient.. Royalty  Free Cliparts, Vectors, And Stock Illustration. Image 39056451.


Djed Pillar, two Wass Scepters and two ANKHS. | Ancient egyptian art,  Egyptian art, Old egypt


Image 13735 - Theban Mapping Project | Egyptian art, Ancient egyptian art,  Egypt art


Djed and Wadjet eyes | Detail from the mummy case of Djed-As… | Flickr

The Concept of the Djed Pillar


Luxor Egypt Tomb of Nefertari Djed Pillar Adorned with Armlets and Stock  Photo - Alamy



The sacred symbol of the Djed pillar | Ancient Origins



Ancient Egypt for Kids - The Egyptian Ankh - Ancient Egypt for Kids |  Ancient egypt, Ancient egypt for kids, Ancient


'The third factor contributing to the crucifixion story is again pagan mythology. The theme of a divine or semi-divine being sacrificed against a tree, pole or cross, and then being resurrected, is very common in pagan mythology. It was found in the mythologies of all western civilizations stretching from as far west as Ireland and as far east as India. In particular it is found in the mythologies of Osiris and Attis, both of whom were often identified with Tammuz. Osiris landed up with his arms stretched out on a tree like Jesus on the cross. This tree was sometimes shown as a pole with outstretched arms - the same shape as the Christian cross. In the worship of Serapis (a composite of Osiris and Apis) the cross was a religious symbol. Indeed, the Christian "Latin cross" symbol seems to be based directly on the cross symbol of Osiris and Serapis. The Romans never used this traditional Christian cross for crucifixions, they used crosses shaped either like an X or a T. The hieroglyph of a cross on a hill was associated with Osiris. This heiroglyph stood for the "Good One," in Greek "Chrestos," a name applied to Osiris and other pagan gods. The confusion of this name with "Christos" (Messiah, Christ) strengthened the confusion between Jesus and the pagan gods.'


ben yehoshua hayyim The Myth Of the Historical Jesus



36 1 Not only the Nile, but every form of moisture205 they call simply the effusion of Osiris; and in their holy rites the water jar in honour of the god heads the procession.206 And by the picture of a rush they represent a king and the southern region of the world,207 and the rush is interpreted to mean the watering and fructifying of all things, and in its nature it seems to bear some resemblance to the generative member. Moreover, when they celebrate the festival of the Pamylia which, as has been said,208 is of a phallic member, they expose and carry about a statue of which the male member is triple;209 for the god is the Source, and every source, by its fecundity, multiplies what proceeds from it; and for "many times" we have a habit of saying "thrice," Cas, for example, "thrice happy,"210 and


Bonds, even thrice as many, unnumbered,211


unless, indeed, the word "triple" is used by the early writers in its strict meaning; for the nature of moisture, being the source and origin of all things, created out of itself three primal material substances, Earth, Air and Fire. In fact, the tale that is annexed to the legend to the effect that Typhon cast the male member of Osiris into the river, and Isis could not find it, but constructed and shaped a replica of it, and ordained that it should be honoured and borne in processions,212 plainly comes round to this doctrine, that the creative and germinal power of the god, at the very first, acquired moisture as its substance, and through moisture combined with whatever was by nature capable of participating in generation.

DThere is another tale current among the Egyptians that Apopis, brother of the Sun, made war upon Zeus, and that because Osiris espoused Zeus's cause and helped him to overthrow his enemy, Zeus adopted Osiris as his son and gave him the name of Dionysus. It may be demonstrated that the legend contained in this tale has some approximation to truth so far as  p91 Nature is concerned; for the Egyptians apply the name "Zeus" to the wind,213 and whatever is dry or fiery is antagonistic to this. This is not the Sun, but it has some kinship with the Sun; and the moisture, Eby doing away with the excess of dryness, increases and strengthens the exhalations by which the wind is fostered and made vigorous.







So in other words Dionysus as Osiris did battle with "The Wicked Serpent Apep" along side Zeus/Jupiter




For More Info Read Christ In Egypt the Horus-Jesus Connection and Neal Boswell's Perennial Gospel For more Info about this subject of Crucifixion and Cruciform but regardless Dionysus Was Definately hung on a post or affixed to a tree prior to Christianity and both qualify as meanings or forms of "crucifixion" and so another "Heathen" bites the dust!



Finally Dionysus or Bacchus has 3 death and ressurection tales the first of which is that as was stated from Hyginus Fabulae he was torn to pieces and through a virgin birth or virgin ressurection Semele drinks his heart and he reborn in his mothers womb the second version is that after being killed by the Titans he was repieced together again either by his Virgin Mother Demeter/Ceres or by Rhea/Ops similar to the most popular ressurection tale surronding Osiris of being put back together again by Isis after being betrayed and murdered by Typhon/Seth the final one Is When Bacchus decends to the underworld to save his deceased wife Ariadne and Virgin Mother Semele before acending to Mt Olympus (Heaven) and according to The Classical Journal, Volume 29 Bacchus Slept with Proserpine for 3 days thus would have remained in the world of the damned for a three day period before acending to heaven. Makes sense considering Plutarch and Alfred Bertholet's Accounts of Osiris being dead for 3 days before ressurecting and how Dionysus Is merely the Grecian Osiris.




So as we can see these critics have evidently never did there resarch so why should we take there word for it when it comes to weather anything in ZG was wrong?




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Life History Of Gautama Buddha: Stories & Teachings Of Buddhism


Uh Oh here comes IP and his "Paganism!"






Although most people think of Buddha as being one person who lived around 500 BCE, the character commonly portrayed as Buddha can also be demonstrated to be a compilation of godmen, legends and sayings of various holy men both preceding and succeeding the period attributed to the Buddha (Gautama/ Gotama), as was demonstrated by Robertson: . . . Gotama was only one of a long series of Buddhas who arise at intervals and who all teach the same doctrine. The names of twenty-four of such Buddhas who appeared before Gotama have been recorded. . . . It was held that after the death of each Buddha, his religion flourishes for a time and then decays. After it is forgotten, a new Buddha emerges and preaches the lost Dhamma, or Truth. . . . It seems quite probable in the light of these facts that any number of teachings attributed to “the Buddha” may have been in existence either before or at the time when Gotama was believed to have lived. . . . The name Gotama is a common one; it is also full of mythological associations. There was admittedly another Gotama known to the early Buddhists, who founded an order. So what proof is there that the sayings and doings of different Gotamas may not have been ascribed to one person? . . .ccxlix 


Because of this non-historicity and of the following characteristics of the Buddha myth, which are not widely known but which have their hoary roots in the mists of time, we can safely assume that Buddha is yet another personification of the ancient, universal mythos being revealed herein. The Buddha character has the following in common with the Christ figure:


• Buddha was born on December 25thccl of the virgin Maya, and his birth was attended by a “Star of Announcement,”ccli wise men cclii and angels singing heavenly songs.ccliii 


• At his birth, he was pronounced ruler of the world and presented with “costly jewels and precious substances.”ccliv 


• His life was threatened by a king “who was advised to destroy the child, as he was liable to overthrow him.”cclv 


• Buddha was of royal lineage. 


• He taught in the temple at 12.cclvi 


• He crushed a serpent’s head (as was traditionally said of Jesus) and was tempted by Mara, the “Evil One,” when fasting. 


• Buddha was baptized in water, with the “Spirit of God” or “Holy Ghost” present.cclvii 


• He performed miracles and wonders, healed the sick, fed 500 men from a “small basket of cakes,” and walked on water. cclviii 


• Buddha abolished idolatry, was a “sower of the word,” and preached “the establishment of a kingdom of righteousness.”cclix 


• His followers were obliged to take vows of poverty and to renounce the world.cclx 


• He was transfigured on a mount, when it was said that his face “shone as the brightness of the sun and moon.”cclxi 


• In some traditions, he died on a cross.cclxii 

• He was resurrected, as his coverings were unrolled from his body and his tomb was opened by supernatural powers.cclxiii 


• Buddha ascended bodily to Nirvana or “heaven.” 


• He was called “Lord,” “Master,” the “Light of the World,” “God of Gods,” “Father of the World,” “Almighty and All-knowing Ruler,” “Redeemer of All,” “Holy One,” the “Author of Happiness,” “Possessor of All,” the “Omnipotent,” the “Supreme Being,” the “Eternal One.”cclxiv 


• He was considered the “Sin Bearer,” “Good Shepherd,” cclxv the “Carpenter,”cclxvi the “Infinite and Everlasting,”cclxvii and the “Alpha and Omega.”cclxviii 


• He came to fulfill, not destroy, the law.cclxix 


• Buddha is to return “in the latter days” to restore order and to judge the dead.”cclxx 


In addition to the characteristics of the “teaching/savior god” as outlined above, the Buddhistic influence in Christianity includes: Renouncing the world and its riches, including sex and family; the brotherhood of man; the virtue of charity and turning the cheek; and conversion. That Buddhism preceded Christianity is undeniable, as is its influence in the world long prior to the beginning of the Christian era. As Walker relates: Established 500 years before Christianity and widely publicized throughout the Middle East, Buddhism exerted more influence on early Christianity than church fathers liked to admit, since they viewed Oriental religions in general as devil worship. . . . Stories of the Buddha and his many incarnations circulated incessantly throughout the ancient world, especially since Buddhist monks traveled to Egypt, Greece, and Asia Minor four centuries before Christ, to spread their doctrines. . . . Many scholars have pointed out that the basic tenets of Christianity were basic tenets of Buddhism first; but it is also true that the ceremonies and trappings of both religions were more similar than either has wanted to acknowledge.cclxxi As to Buddhistic influence in the specific area where the Christ drama purportedly took place, Larson states: Buddhist missionaries penetrated every portion of the then known world, including Greece, Egypt, Baktria, Asia Minor, and the Second Persian Empire. Palestine must have been permeated by Buddhist ideology during the first century. . . . The literature of India proves that Jesus drew heavily upon Buddhism, directly or indirectly, to obtain not simply the content of His ethics, but the very form in which it was delivered. Both Gautama and Jesus found parable effective.cclxxii Indeed, it seems that a number of Jesus’s parables were direct lifts from Buddhism; for example, that of the prodigal son.cclxxiii The existence of Buddhism in the Middle East during the Christian era is acknowledged by Christian apologists themselves such as Cyril and Clement of Alexandria, who said the Samaneans or Buddhists were priests of Persia.cclxxiv Furthermore, a number of scholars have pushed back the origins of Buddhism many thousands of years prior to the alleged advent of Gautama Buddha. Albert Churchward also traces the Buddha myth originally to Egypt: The first Buddha was called Hermias, and can be traced back to Set of the Egyptians; he originated in the Stellar Cult. Later, however, the Solar Cult was carried to India, and the Buddha is there the representative of Ptah of the Egyptians. . . . . Sakya-Muni or Gautama, whose life and history were evolved from the pre-extant mythos, the true Buddha, . . . could become no more historical than the Christ of the gnosis. If Buddhism could but explicate its own origins, it would become apparent that it is both natural and scientific, i.e. the old Stellar Cult of Egypt. But the blind attempt to make the Buddha historical in one person will place it ultimately at the bottom of a dark hole.cclxxv Higgins also evinced that true “Buddhism” is much more ancient than the legends of the Buddha, since in ancient Indian temples long predating the era of “Gautama” are depictions of the Buddha as a black man, not only in color but in feature.cclxxvi In Higgins’s opinion, Buddhism has been the most widespread religion on the planet, also found in England, where it was the religion of the Druids. He also states that the “Hermes of Egypt, or Buddha, was well known to the ancient Canaanites,” i.e., the people who preceded and in large part became the Israelites. Therefore, Buddhism was no doubt an early influence on Hebrew thought and religion. 


ccl. Thomas Doane Bible Myths And Their Parallels In Other Religions (363) 


ccli. Albert Churchward The Origin and Evolution of Religion (334) 


cclii. Thomas Doane Bible Myths and There Parallels In Other Religions, (290) 


ccliii. Martin A Larson Story Of Christmas Origins (136) 


Thomas Doane Bible Myths and There Parallels In Other Religions (147), (290) 


ccliv. Thomas Doane Bible Myths and There Parallels In Other Religions (290) 


cclv.Thomas Doane Bible Myths And There Parallels In Other Religions (168). 


cclvi.Thomas Doane Bible Myths And There Parallels In Other Religions(291) 


cclvii.Thomas Doane Bible Myths And There Parallels In Other Religions(292) 


cclviii. GRS Mead, Gospels And Gospels  (133) 


cclix. GRS Mead, Gospels and Gospels (133) 


cclx Thomas Doane Bible Myths And There Parallels In Other Religions (294) 


cclxi. Thomas Doane Bible Myths And There Parallels In Other Religions(292) 


cclxii. Albert Pike Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry (290) Godfrey Higgins Anacalypsis

Volume I (159), (444) 


cclxiii.Thomas Doane Bible Myths And There Parallels In Other Religions(293) 


cclxiv.Thomas Doane Bible Myths And There Parallels In Other Religions(116) 


cclxv. Helena Blavatsky, Isis Unveiled Volume II (209), (537-538) 


cclxvi. Gerald Massey, The Historical Jesus And The Mythical Christ (150) 


cclxvii. GRS Mead, (134). 


cclxviii. Thomas Doane Bible Myths And There Parallels In Other Religions (292) 


cclxix. Thomas Doane Bible Myths And There Parallels In Other Religions (294) 


cclxx. Thomas Doane Bible Myths And There Parallels In Other Religions (293) 


cclxxi. Barbara Walker Woman’s Encyclopedia Of Myths and Secrets, (123) 


cclxxii. Martin A Larson Story Of Christmas Origins (142-8) 


cclxxiii. Martin A Larson The Story Of Christmas Origins (149) 


cclxxiv. Godfrey Higgins Anacalypsis Volume 1 (163) 


cclxxv. Albert Churchward The Origins And Evolution Of Religion (331) (339) 


cclxxvi. Godfrey Higgins Anacalypsis Volume 1 (161) 




Trade between India and above all the Near East but also Greece, flourished even at the time of Alexander the Great. There was also missionary activity, and Buddhism was well-known in Rome as early as in the second century BCE. Although you should not push the parallels between the lives of Jesus and Buddha too far, it is plausible that people in the West were familiar with many of the Buddhist legends at the dawn of Christianity.[170] The similarities between the lives of these sons of God lead us to one important conclusion, namely that many of the tales are well-known myths, universal to all cultures.

The legends of the Buddha’s life were first recorded in the Pali language and the Sanskrit language and were early translated into Chinese, Tibetan and other languages. Indian writings are very difficult to date. The Indians themselves have never cared much for dating their literary works. Most often, the texts are anonymous, and even when we know who authored them, we seldom know exactly when that person lived.

In the following summary of Buddha’s life, I have used texts that are earlier and some that are later than the Gospels. The first of the three parts of the extensive Pali Tipitaka is Vinayapitaka. It contains seven books, including Mahâvagga and Cullavagga. The second part of the Tipitaka is Suttapitaka, containing five Nikâyas (collections), out of which I used four, Digha-, Majjhima-, Samyutta-, and Anguttara-Nikâya. All of these antedate Christianity. The Mahâyânasûtras are of later date. Saddharmapundarîkasûtra (the Lotussûtra) is written some time between 100 BCE and 100 CE. Vimalakîrtinirdeshasûtra seems to have been written some time before the middle of the second century CE