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Interesting. I was watching a TED Talk video last night where the speaker suggested that racism directed primarily at dark skin (not culture clashes or tribalism) has its roots in a Portuguese book from 1450 at the beginning of the thriving and profitable slave trade, and that prior to that humans didn't divide based on perceived color differences. The book stated that inhabitants of Africa were stupid and animalistic, and thus rightfully made into slaves. 

 

But this article seems to suggest there was a far older tribal clash that was based in genetic differences (though I'm sure there were mixes in genetics because that's how we behave). The aboriginal inhabitants of Australia and also in New Guinea are said to have split off from the ancestral tree earlier than the humans that went on into Europe. 

 

Link to the original article from University of Bath: https://theconversation.com/institutions/university-of-bath-1325

 

Link to aboriginal blurb from Smithsonian: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dna-tests-suggest-aboriginal-australians-have-oldest-society-planet-180960569/

 

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A number of those wars were probably about territory  -- to take land, caves, water locations, or to protect them, others about cannibalism, some to steal food shelter etc., still others to eliminate competition, some to take material items, and maybe some to take women, slaves, rape, pillage, etc., normal male aggression.  Probably the main purveyors of these wars were probably modern humans since Neanderthals were well established in  Europe and Asia long before modern humans arrived.

 

Of course Neanderthals were also humans, homo Neanderthalensis, so they also had warfare among themselves long before having wars with modern humans. Both were probably well experienced in warfare and cannibalism long before they encountered each other. Unfortunately for Neanderthals modern humans could throw rocks and spears much better at a distance because of their shoulder joints, and some had more advanced weapons such as slings, bolas, ropes, nets, snares, better stone spear tips and sharpeners, clubs, axes, spears, animal skins as armor, woomeras (cup at the end of a long wood shaft filled with dirt or sand, flinged at a distance to temporarily blind prey or warfare victims), etc. 

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27 minutes ago, pantheory said:

I number of those wars were probably about territory  -- to take land and to protect it, others about cannibalism, some to take food, still others to eliminate competition, some to take material items, and maybe some to take women, slaves, rape, pillage, etc. ...

 

Much like today, you mean, yeah?

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This is kind of interesting.

Were Neanderthals stoned to death by modern humans?


https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16091-were-neanderthals-stoned-to-death-by-modern-humans/#ixzz6clZhLyXI

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21 hours ago, pantheory said:

This is kind of interesting.

Were Neanderthals stoned to death by modern humans? 

 

Not completely.  There are some still living in Kansas!

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On 11/3/2020 at 8:18 AM, alreadyGone said:

 

An interesting article.

https://www.sciencealert.com/how-neanderthals-and-humans-battled-for-supremacy-for-over-100-000-years

 

How does this fit into the Genesis tale?

 

And apparently shagged throughout this extensive war, leading all of the neanderthal DNA left over in so many northern European descendants today. 

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