pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 If you get an interference pattern then all possible paths were used and none of them got observed. If you don't get an interference pattern then the wave is using Scalar. This reality seems to be Scalar Volumes vs Vector Field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 So you are probably are wondering where I'm going with this. What I'm actually saying is that the double slit experiment is proof of sin. Physicality is what happened after original sin. We were not physical beforehand. Adam and Eve suddenly knew they were naked because they were physical for the first time. We suffered a spiritual death ..not a physical one. Scalar started. This makes Sin the reason for the measurement problem. You need a closed scalar volume for entropy. Entropy is disorder. The non-physical doesn't use entropy. The spiritual universe is coherent. This reality of the fallen is decoherence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 22, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2021 Welcome aboard, joe. Given your... familiarity... with science, I assume you understand the concepts of evidence and burden of proof. You'll need that here. Enjoy your stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Curious that you would move this from a sub titled "Science vs. Religion". Like you don't want anyone to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheory Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, pittsburghjoe said: So you are probably are wondering where I'm going with this. What I'm actually saying is that the double slit experiment is proof of sin. Physicality is what happened after original sin. We were not physical beforehand. Adam and Eve suddenly knew they were naked because they were physical for the first time. We suffered a spiritual death ..not a physical one. Scalar started. This makes Sin the reason for the measurement problem. You need a closed scalar volume for entropy. Entropy is disorder. The non-physical doesn't use entropy. The spiritual universe is coherent. This reality of the fallen is decoherence. Welcome Joe. Only two posts ah 1 hour ago, pittsburghjoe said: Curious that you would move this from a sub titled "Science vs. Religion". Like you don't want anyone to see it. and all those fancy words, Wow. and, proof of sin. Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 22, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: Curious that you would move this from a sub titled "Science vs. Religion". Like you don't want anyone to see it. Yes. You are being persecuted for righteousness sake. How blessed are you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheory Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, pittsburghjoe said: Curious that you would move this from a sub titled "Science vs. Religion". Like you don't want anyone to see it. Your posting was moved because it was just too silly for a science discussion. It is more like a religious argument where you threw in science with an imagined application. You are now in the Lion's Den. You are the Christian and we are the lions. If you are gentile and humble in your discussion maybe God will protect you from us as he did Androcles from the lions of the Bible. If not hopefully the lions (us) will not hurt you too much. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Oh you want some more? Imagine you're God, you have infinity to do whatever. You decide you want people that can think for themselves to be in your existence (free will). The only problem is that they can't be corrupted or it screws with your system. God is perfect order, coherence. Sin is disorder, decoherence. God needs us to be orderly to be entangled with him. You need coherent waves to quantum entangle. How do you think we become orderly again? God's Love is entanglement. God could have just forgiven us but we wouldn't be able to entangle with him after this is over. He had to become man to forgive for the disorder. Is the fall of man a single age that won't happen again? Will we look back on this as a lesson to never do it again? Am I wrong in thinking there could have been a spiritual universe before it turned into the physical one? We have to live in sin to understand why it is wrong. I'm confused on the order of the events. Did God know we were going to fall so he told the Angels he would become man to save them ..and then Satan heard that, as a last straw, figured he would trick us and steal our authority at the tree? God is all possible paths of causality, omnipresent and omniscient. So if everything is part of his plan then everything works out in the end. Order restored for infinity? Is the universal wave in quantum mechanics an indication of the oneness/coherence to God? Do all waves in a state of entanglement connect to it? Is the Star of David related to the Universal Wave? Entanglement = Love The perfect Love between the Holy Trinity is entanglement. When you hear about quantum particles being entangled, you are hearing about scientific evidence of the Holy Spirit. Quantum Entanglement requires Coherence. Coherence is waves in phase, it is perfect order. God is perfect order. All quantum effects require coherence and to be unobserved. When someone asks about the unobservable side of QM, they are told to "shut up and calculate". They don't want them figuring out that it is proof of God. God is all possible paths of causality. All possible paths are required for unobserved waves to display an interference pattern. All paths are virtually used at the same time. We know this because we get the pattern even when sending individual unobserved waves. Interference is proof of God because it is omnipresent. The key to entanglement is the sharing of the same path, of all possible paths, for a split second. After that happens, the waves will be considered the same wave. Measuring one wave collapses the other because they are the same wave. Could there be an entire side to reality that is Virtual/Vector? Is it where all possible paths reside? When I said the entangled waves are the same wave, I meant literally. It is an universal wave ..it is God. It's all the same wave when interfering, but there is an identifying factor as to when it became part of the universal wave. Non-local waves are virtual and are all possible paths. Virtual/Vector doesn't have single moments/positions. Is there a connection between Bell Inequality and an interference pattern? Can we test spin on the landing positions of interference? Could we run a Bell Inequality experiment simultaneously by matching the time entanglement started? I suspect Bell Inequality experiments can't be shielded because entanglement is all the same wave. It jumbles up spin tests, so I want to know if it influences the landing position. Does this mean local particles/scalar volumes are using all possible paths as the degrees of freedom for Entropy? Multiple instances of measurement causes a local/scalar particle to go back to being a virtual/vector wave that displays an interference pattern. We see this with which-way eraser experiments. Measuring is only a snapshot of the position, not which path of all possible paths it is taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheory Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: So you are probably are wondering where I'm going with this. What I'm actually saying is that the double slit experiment is proof of sin. Physicality is what happened after original sin. We were not physical beforehand. Adam and Eve suddenly knew they were naked because they were physical for the first time. We suffered a spiritual death ..not a physical one. Scalar started. This makes Sin the reason for the measurement problem. You need a closed scalar volume for entropy. Entropy is disorder. The non-physical doesn't use entropy. The spiritual universe is coherent. This reality of the fallen is decoherence. Ah, the double slit experiment is proof of sin. Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Uncertainty is from Scalar Volumes using the Vector Field for Velocity. https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/vectors.html The measurement problem turns out to be related to original sin. Scalar and Phi are related to physicality. Original sin caused physicality. The cross product of a vector sphere uses Phi. Observed physical atoms are spheres https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1476391/what-is-the-cross-product-in-spherical-coordinates You can define a wave by the number of vectors it used in the vector field. Unobserved waves use a whole lot more because they are in superposition. Physical objects are never in superposition. Waves of probabilities are future possibilities that they will be physical. Physical objects have a present state. We bump two atoms together to cause them to entangle. Is it not obvious that we are forcing them to share all possible paths for a split second? Entropy is disorder in an infinite coherent system (the Vector Field). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 22, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2021 If god has a plan, and everything happens according to his plan, then it is not possible for humans to have free will. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just because he knows what will happen doesn't mean we were forced to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 22, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: Just because he knows what will happen doesn't mean we were forced to do anything. There is a difference between being forced and not really having a choice. If he knows what will happen, then nothing we do is our own choice. We simply do what we were programmed to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator florduh Posted January 22, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: God needs us to be orderly to be entangled with him. An actual god would need nothing. Superstition and science, who would've thunk it? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 God doesn't want programmed people. What fun is that to an infinite being? We decided to take on Satan's view of disorder. God did not put the apple in our hands. Reality plays out how he knows it will. It isn't a choice to God, but it is to humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 "Need" .. "Want" ..whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 22, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2021 Do as I say or go to hell for all eternity. That is god's idea of a "choice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 How would you be if disorder screwed everything up? This reality is a lesson/test. The idea is for it to never happen again. We had to learn why it is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 22, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: We had to learn why it is wrong. Because an omniscient god couldn't simply... explain it. So he opted for eternal hellfire and brimstone for innocent women and children. Why would anyone worship such a beastly tyrant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Greed, Ego, Pride, Lust are only possible here. We didn't have any concept of it before. Time here is a drop in the bucket to God. So what is your plan when you find out what I said above is actually true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheory Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: Greed, Ego, Pride, Lust are only possible here. We didn't have any concept of it before. Time here is a drop in the bucket to God. So what is your plan when you find out what I said above is actually true? Greed, ego and pride ain't too cool, but lust when acted upon can be super cool. Take it from me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 God doesn't create evil, he wasn't going to put those evil concepts in us. We have to live in it. We will look back on this age and know to never consider it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheory Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, pittsburghjoe said: If you get an interference pattern then all possible paths were used and none of them got observed. If you don't get an interference pattern then the wave is using Scalar. This reality seems to be Scalar Volumes vs Vector Field. The mainstream-science interpretation of the double-slit experiment is almost as silly as your interpretation of it with an emphasis on the word 'almost.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Quote Even if not actually measured, the mere possibility that an observer could determine which slit the photon passed through causes the interference pattern to switch to non-interference. https://sciencedemonstrations.fas.harvard.edu/presentations/single-photon-interference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 22, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: God doesn't create evil, he wasn't going to put those evil concepts in us. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. Isaiah 45:7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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