alreadyGone Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Thinking of the sheer volume of humans slated to be condemned to an eternity in Hell, it must be a really huge place. If it all ended now, and judgement were at hand already, today, (there goes the weekend!) how many would you assume to be headed to Hell? 1 billion? 3 billion? More? What about the earlier versions of man, such as Neanderthals? Will there be a separate section in Hell for them, or will all humanoids going back to the early pre-human primates be there in the same general confinement? What would you suppose to be the demon-tormentor/humans-being-punished ratio? How many demons and/or fallen angels does it take to manage such a place? Running a 24/7 torment-mill for hundreds of billions of humans would require some management. Are there administrative and managerial devils? Just some thoughts which flitter through my mind from time to time... usually in the early AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 23, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2021 Hell isn't real. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyGone Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 The Bible says there is a hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 23, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2021 the bible isn't true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyGone Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 How many devils can dance on the head of a pin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyGone Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said: the bible isn't true. Imagine the spike in unemployment among ministers and priests if this news gets around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 23, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, alreadyGone said: Imagine the spike in unemployment among ministers and priests if this news gets around. It'd be hell, I'm sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 5 hours ago, alreadyGone said: Thinking of the sheer volume of humans slated to be condemned to an eternity in Hell, it must be a really huge place. If it all ended now, and judgement were at hand already, today, (there goes the weekend!) how many would you assume to be headed to Hell? 100 billion? 300 billion? More? What about the earlier versions of man, such as Neanderthals? Will there be a separate section in Hell for them, or will all humanoids going back to the early pre-human primates be there in the same general confinement? What would you suppose to be the demon-tormentor/humans-being-punished ratio? How many demons and/or fallen angels does it take to manage such a place? Running a 24/7 torment-mill for hundreds of billions of humans would require some management. Are there administrative and managerial devils? Just some thoughts which flitter through my mind from time to time... usually in the early AM. What if there are people who are too dumb to feel pain? Is there a special section for masochists? What happens if someone starts witnessing for Jesus, down there in Hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ Weezer ◊ Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Everyone would be reduced to the size of an atom. That would not take up as much space, and lower the food bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ Weezer ◊ Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 4 hours ago, midniterider said: What happens if someone starts witnessing for Jesus, down there in Hell? They would give them Hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freed Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I think Hell keeps expanding. More room for God to put people in. As long as humans live, reproduce and die, Hell expands. Gods gotta keep his word and send most everyone down there himself. Matthew 7:13,14 and Matthew7:21-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterP Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 11:22 AM, alreadyGone said: Thinking of the sheer volume of humans slated to be condemned to an eternity in Hell, it must be a really huge place. If it all ended now, and judgement were at hand already, today, (there goes the weekend!) how many would you assume to be headed to Hell? 1 billion? 3 billion? More? What about the earlier versions of man, such as Neanderthals? Will there be a separate section in Hell for them, or will all humanoids going back to the early pre-human primates be there in the same general confinement? What would you suppose to be the demon-tormentor/humans-being-punished ratio? How many demons and/or fallen angels does it take to manage such a place? Running a 24/7 torment-mill for hundreds of billions of humans would require some management. Are there administrative and managerial devils? Just some thoughts which flitter through my mind from time to time... usually in the early AM. Given the immense size of the universe, the amount of space needed for billions of humans in hell isn't really that great, AlreadyGone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_on_Zanzibar The primary engine of the novel's story is overpopulation and its projected consequences.[2] The title refers to an early twentieth-century claim that the world's population could fit onto the Isle of Wight—which has an area of 381 square kilometres (147 sq mi)—if they were all standing upright. Brunner remarked that the growing world population now required a larger island; the 3.5 billion people living in 1968 could stand together on the Isle of Man [area 572 square kilometres (221 sq mi)], while the 7 billion people who he (correctly) projected would be alive in 2010 would need to stand on Zanzibar [area 1,554 square kilometres (600 sq mi)].[4] Throughout the book, the image of the entire human race standing shoulder-to-shoulder on a small island is a metaphor for a crowded world. Please try looking at Zanzibar on a world map to see how tiny it is. Then multiply by however many humans have lived. The amount of space needed for everyone in Hell really won't amount to much. Thank you. Walter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothew Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 5:52 AM, TheRedneckProfessor said: Hell isn't real. I got banned from a christian forum (www.christianforums.com) for saying that hell isn't real. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyGone Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Timothew said: I got banned from a christian forum (www.christianforums.com) for saying that hell isn't real. Oh well. Banned? Must have been devastating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 26, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Timothew said: I got banned from a christian forum (www.christianforums.com) for saying that hell isn't real. Oh well. What the hell? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 26, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 26, 2021 One of the things I greatly respect about our website is that we have a specific forum where christians are encouraged to share their beliefs. It's not always cordial, and can sometimes turn into a right royal bowdy-how; but we don't automatically ban christians for sharing their unpopular opinions. If they do get themselves banned, it's generally on account of repeated rule infracture or just piss-poor behavior. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 3:22 AM, alreadyGone said: Thinking of the sheer volume of humans slated to be condemned to an eternity in Hell, it must be a really huge place. If it all ended now, and judgement were at hand already, today, (there goes the weekend!) how many would you assume to be headed to Hell? 1 billion? 3 billion? More? I've heard that it's estimated more have died than are alive today so probably lots more than your estimate. What are your requirements for going to hell? That would help sort the numbers. We'll also need to know how big a "soul" is. Smaller than a person obviously. They had that whole 21 grams thing a hundred years ago. A paper clip is about 1 gram so about 21 paper clips per person? (Lots of empty space in a paper clip but most of us are familiar with a small paper clip) Anyhoo, let's say 7 billion, roughly the same as alive today, in hell all about the size of 21 paper clips. So about 147 billion paper clips. If we just go ahead and give them about 1 cubic inch of space that's about 85,000,000 cubic feet. Which, according to my calculator, is also about 643 swimming pools. Quote What about the earlier versions of man, such as Neanderthals? Will there be a separate section in Hell for them, or will all humanoids going back to the early pre-human primates be there in the same general confinement? Exactly. What about all the still-borns, miscarriages and all that? Lots of possibilities for the hell bound. I suppose we should also take into account the magical conversion that supposedly took place when jesus "descended into hell" as well. How many got with program? Anyone? Everyone? What if he simply "planted the seed" and xianity is spreading in hell like it did on Earth? What's really the situation there? Quote What would you suppose to be the demon-tormentor/humans-being-punished ratio? How many demons and/or fallen angels does it take to manage such a place? Running a 24/7 torment-mill for hundreds of billions of humans would require some management. Are there administrative and managerial devils? Fallen angels/demons can't run hell since it was the place made for them. For some reason they get to come and go as they please while no one else can but, still, it's their place of punishment. So they're peers not authorities. The authority is god who denies being the authority by saying you brought it on yourself and you want to live in this hell. However, if you say you want to live another way that request is denied. Some fiction has so many plot-holes that it just can't be salvaged. It's fun to mess around with the problems though. mwc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyGone Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 Well played sir, well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothew Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 11 hours ago, alreadyGone said: Banned? Must have been devastating. It was at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothew Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 9 hours ago, TheRedneckProfessor said: One of the things I greatly respect about our website is that we have a specific forum where christians are encouraged to share their beliefs. It's not always cordial, and can sometimes turn into a right royal bowdy-how; but we don't automatically ban christians for sharing their unpopular opinions. If they do get themselves banned, it's generally on account of repeated rule infracture or just piss-poor behavior. Technically it was for rule breaking, posting about hell outside of the "unorthodox theology" section. People kept asking questions about hell, and since I had done a lot of bible study about hell, I answered their questions. I was (or am? IDK) an annihilationist. Here's a sample, if you like: https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-wages-of-sin-is-death-not-eternal-torment-in-hell.7753112/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyGone Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Timothew said: ...Here's a sample, if you like: https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-wages-of-sin-is-death-not-eternal-torment-in-hell.7753112/ Good grief. Pages and pages of "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothew Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 hours ago, alreadyGone said: Good grief. Pages and pages of "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?". Haha, thanks. It seemed important at the time. Now I know that religion is the game where everything is made up and the points don't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted January 27, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted January 27, 2021 4 hours ago, alreadyGone said: Good grief. Pages and pages of "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?". 42 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Joshpantera Posted January 30, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 30, 2021 I think it's been pointed out recently, that this IS hell. And WE are it's staff... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothew Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/27/2021 at 2:29 AM, alreadyGone said: Good grief. Pages and pages of "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?". On 1/27/2021 at 7:28 AM, TheRedneckProfessor said: 42 I am ashamed to say that there is more than that. A lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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