midniterider Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, pittsburghjoe said: Right, some people met Jesus. Any yet here we are with you still not believing. It's a joke for you think there couldn't be some exceptions. God let's himself known to those that are trying to believe. God didnt do a very good job letting people here 'know Himself' when after years/decades they were sincerely unable to find any evidence for God, when prayers were not being answered and when they decided they were done believing. And God said nothing at all. Just. Like. Now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator Hierophant Posted February 3, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted February 3, 2021 I think the double slit theory is better explained that we live in a computer simulation, much like the matrix. In video games, the entire world of the game is not shown at one time, too much resource power. Only when a character in a game is observing something, does it materialize. That is why the particles act the way they do in double slit theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, midniterider said: God didnt do a very good job letting people here 'know Himself' when after years/decades they were sincerely unable to find any evidence for God, when prayers were not being answered and when they decided they were done believing. And God said nothing at all. Just. Like. Now. Weird, the situation we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☆ DarkBishop ☆ Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, pittsburghjoe said: Keep reading the thread, I already covered this. We are made of waves right now https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2020/08/19/in-quantum-physics-even-humans-act-as-waves/?sh=732969f3312c But decoherent ones. Decoherence causes physicality. We were coherent waves before original sin. LoL ill check it out. But if you have make the apologetics jump through hoops like this then your probably already on the verge of realizing that non of it is really true. Just saying. DB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, Hierophant said: I think the double slit theory is better explained that we live in a computer simulation, much like the matrix. In video games, the entire world of the game is not shown at one time, too much resource power. Only when a character in a game is observing something, does it materialize. That is why the particles act the way they do in double slit theory Yeah ..SIM SATAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: Oh, right, the way where we end up in Hell from the start ::rolls eyes:: No, the way where there is no hell at all. ::rolls eyes:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, midniterider said: No, the way where there is no hell at all. ::rolls eyes:: You're sitting in the precursor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator Hierophant Posted February 3, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted February 3, 2021 And Joe, before I finally left Christianity, I begged God for evidence that I was on the right path...so don't even start with that BS. A lot of atheist were very, very devout believers who were unable to reconcile real life with belief. I will not tolerate a statement like that because it is demonstrably false. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator Hierophant Posted February 3, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, pittsburghjoe said: Yeah ..SIM SATAN No, aliens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midniterider Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, pittsburghjoe said: Weird, the situation we are in. I'm not in 'your' situation. You can have your fear, shame and guilt back. I'm not interested in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, Hierophant said: And Joe, before I finally left Christianity, I begged God for evidence that I was on the right path...so don't even start with that BS. A lot of atheist were very, very devout believers who were unable to reconcile real life with belief. I will not tolerate a statement like that because it is demonstrably false. Were you expecting him to tap you on the shoulder? How do you know ..the he didn't know, you would later wake up from what I'm saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted February 3, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted February 3, 2021 Y'all finish up with your closing arguments. This thread has gone on beyond its usefulness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ Krowb ◊ Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, pittsburghjoe said: Were you expecting him to tap you on the shoulder? How do you know ..the he didn't know, you would later wake up from what I'm saying? I beg everyone involved, please let's not tread back down the paths of QM and the incompatibility of an all knowing god and his fetish for free will. If you care, there are three other threads prior to this one that went round and round on the same subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, Krowb said: I beg everyone involved, please let's not tread back down the paths of QM and the incompatibility of an all knowing god and his fetish for free will. If you care, there are three other threads prior to this one that went round and round on the same subjects. Yes, join Krowb in what this place becomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyGone Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: Right, some people met Jesus. Any yet here we are with you still not believing. It's a joke for you think there couldn't be some exceptions. God let's himself known to those that are trying to believe. Joe, you are embarrassing yourself. Seriously man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator Hierophant Posted February 3, 2021 Super Moderator Share Posted February 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: Were you expecting him to tap you on the shoulder? How do you know ..the he didn't know, you would later wake up from what I'm saying? Last I will say on this is that you do not know if you are correct. You do not realize that you could be wrong and it is intellectually dishonest. If you will not entertain other evidence and reason that does not fit your theory, then you are okay with simply being ignorant and not interested in truth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I think this needs said again: Please consider what it means to be able to do these things: pride, vanity, greed, lust, ego. Do those things sound possible if we were all connected? THINK! Why would we be in a situation that allows SIN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☆ DarkBishop ☆ Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 43 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: Keep reading the thread, I already covered this. In the article I dont see any reference to the blather you are spewing about creation. It looks more like they are trying to figure out the star trek transporter technology than change the history of biblical creation. Your theory is fine for you Joe. That is the way you have come to reconcile the Bible so that you can keep believing. And thats fine..... for you.. But for the rest of the world and those who want to keep things rational. Your theory is absurd and does not reflect in any way what is written. the burden of proof falls on your shoulders. And at this point you have presented no tangible proof. The text reflects a physical understanding of creation. If the writer(s) thought we were waves then the text would have been worded differently. And if the text is the "word of god" then it shouldn't leave room for such a huge misconception that we were physical if we were actually waves....... DB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterP Posted February 3, 2021 Author Share Posted February 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said: Y'all finish up with your closing arguments. This thread has gone on beyond its usefulness. Would it be possible for just Joe and I to continue in thread, please? We would confine ourselves to the topic that I started this thread off with, the Garden of Eden. That way all mention of quantum waves, scalars and vectors would be excluded. Is that possible, RedneckProf? Thank you. Walter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, DarkBishop said: In the article I dont see any reference to the blather you are spewing about creation. It looks more like they are trying to figure out the star trek transporter technology than change the history of biblical creation. Your theory is fine for you Joe. That is the way you have come to reconcile the Bible so that you can keep believing. And thats fine..... for you.. But for the rest of the world and those who want to keep things rational. Your theory is absurd and does not reflect in any way what is written. the burden of proof falls on your shoulders. And at this point you have presented no tangible proof. The text reflects a physical understanding of creation. If the writer(s) thought we were waves then the text would have been worded differently. And if the text is the "word of god" then it shouldn't leave room for such a huge misconception that we were physical if we were actually waves....... DB Right, a dude from 2000 years ago is going to know what quantum waves are ..get real. Both sides have waves ..it is just the decoherence that is the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
☆ DarkBishop ☆ Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, WalterP said: Would it be possible for just Joe and I to continue in thread, please? We would confine ourselves to the topic that I started this thread off with, the Garden of Eden. That way all mention of quantum waves, scalars and vectors would be excluded. Is that possible, RedneckProf? Thank you. Walter. I think yall have already hit the Nascar track on that subject. Its all circles now. You made a great argument but Joe just keeps saying the same crap all over. You've already had to back up and make him reanswer questions a couple times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, WalterP said: Would it be possible for just Joe and I to continue in thread, please? We would confine ourselves to the topic that I started this thread off with, the Garden of Eden. That way all mention of quantum waves, scalars and vectors would be excluded. Is that possible, RedneckProf? Thank you. Walter. So your can write more trick questions? ..can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astreja Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, pittsburghjoe said: Please consider what it means to be able to do these things: pride, vanity, greed, lust, ego. Do those things sound possible if we were all connected? Yes, they *do* sound quite possible -- because we are all connected. The point of connection was approximately 13.7 billion years ago, at the time of the Big Bang singularity. What I can't fathom about your line of reasoning is why you're so eager to sacrifice the uniqueness we possess now, in favour of some nebulous connectedness. To me, there is nothing appealing about being subsumed into some mythological godhead and having the 'self' obliterated. And what you say above has nothing to do with what *I* said. You're just another Internet stranger pretending that you know The Truth™ about reality, and you're getting pushback from us because all you've given us is unsubstantiated ideas that sound utterly ridiculous. What part of "We don't believe you" are you too fucking stupid to understand? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittsburghjoe Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Astreja said: Yes, they *do* sound quite possible -- because we are all connected. The point of connection was approximately 13.7 billion years ago, at the time of the Big Bang singularity. What I can't fathom about your line of reasoning is why you're so eager to sacrifice the uniqueness we possess now, in favour of some nebulous connectedness. To me, there is nothing appealing about being subsumed into some mythological godhead and having the 'self' obliterated. And what you say above has nothing to do with what *I* said. You're just another Internet stranger pretending that you know The Truth™ about reality, and you're getting pushback from us because all you've given us is unsubstantiated ideas that sound utterly ridiculous. What part of "We don't believe you" are you too fucking stupid to understand? I'm trying to illustrate what is preventing you from being saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astreja Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, pittsburghjoe said: Right, a dude from 2000 years ago is going to know what quantum waves are ..get real. Both sides have waves ..it is just the decoherence that is the difference. If the "dude from 2000 years ago" was an actual god, perhaps he should have known. Silly bugger didn't say anything useful about anything that wasn't already known to mortals of that time period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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