Why can't atheists just shut up if they REALLY don't believe and let the rest of us WORSHIP

[Castiel233]

Well........

 

Many of us have been harmed by Christianity by its sheer madness and we want to reduce the harm it does to others. If I can help one other person from becoming mentally ill over Christianity, then it is worth it. 

 

Christians who claim that atheists push back because they secretly believe see no problem with Christians pushing back against Islam. Do Christians secretly believe in Allah.....

 

[florduh]

Yes, please believe and worship whatever you wish, just don't try to write your religious dogma into our secular law. Oh, and stop knocking on my door!

[midniterider]

I rarely bust into a church service to stop them from worship. 

 

 

[midniterider]

4 hours ago, florduh said:

Yes, please believe and worship whatever you wish, just don't try to write your religious dogma into our secular law. Oh, and stop knocking on my door!

 

No shit. Stop handing me your JW crap. These morons snail mailed shit from the Kingdom Hall a few months ago. Covid evangelizing, I guess. 

[midniterider]

12 hours ago, Castiel233 said:

Well........

 

Many of us have been harmed by Christianity by its sheer madness and we want to reduce the harm it does to others. If I can help one other person from becoming mentally ill over Christianity, then it is worth it. 

 

Christians who claim that atheists push back because they secretly believe see no problem with Christians pushing back against Islam. Do Christians secretly believe in Allah.....

 

 

Why cant they shut up and let me be agnostic.

[mwc]

11 hours ago, midniterider said:

I rarely bust into a church service to stop them from worship. 

 

 

     Had this happen once way back in the 70's.  Guy comes into church during the service and goes off about the whole thing.  He was "escorted" out after a short time.

 

     Was this one of those rare times you've done this?  

 

          mwc

 

[LogicalFallacy]

Well it's simple Dear Religious person. The reason we don't just shut up is best illustrated by the true story below that is happening as we speak.

 

Most countries, including the US have a thing called the separation of Church and State. Well kinda, in the UK the Church of England still has massive state privileges, and in the US... well it's the land of the religious shitshow. I do apologise on behalf of NZ for sending Ray Comfort to you. However, lets both agree that the religious nutbags over there deserved Mr Banana man. 

 

As part of this separation of Church and state teachers in public funded schools are not allowed to espouse personal religious opinions or beliefs. Currently in West Virginia an Atheist youtuber and his family have been run out of the state because they made a complaint to the school that got the teacher fired. The complaint was that during health class she would, by her own admission, teach her personal Christian views on morality and sex etc. The Ex-C folks here will know exactly what I'm talking about, and we aren't talking wishy washy "love everybody" LA style Christianity, we are talking fundamentalist sex talk. The largely religious community found out who made the complaint, and cue harassment of the atheist and the child who made the complaint. Threats of violence have been issued - things like "lets beat him up in the street to teach him respect".

 

If you thought the days of harassment, and death threats against atheists ended with the age of enlightenment I've got news for you. It hasn't. So we speak out. We call bullshit when we see it. Some of us can do so at will without personal costs to ourselves. Others, as the story above shows, will face considerable costs for speaking out against religion in order to uphold constitutional rights, and will see the 'peace loving' Christians turn into an angry, violent mob.

 

That is why we can't just shut up. Religion attempts to control every aspect of our lives. If we give it an inch in the public sector it will take the whole country. Religion is for the person and in their places of worship. I don't march into your churches, so don't walk up to me in the street and tell me I'm going to hell. Or on the internet for that matter. I had a guy complain the other day on this very thing because I dared to respond to a Christian who decided to start preaching. You start your religious nonsense in a public space and its on my brother, my sister. Glo-ray to Gaawwd!

 

 

 

 

[ConsiderTheSource]

On 3/28/2021 at 10:28 AM, florduh said:

Yes, please believe and worship whatever you wish, just don't try to write your religious dogma into our secular law. Oh, and stop knocking on my door!

Totally and completely what ^^^ Flordah said.

[Myrkhoos]

On 3/28/2021 at 8:28 PM, florduh said:

Yes, please believe and worship whatever you wish, just don't try to write your religious dogma into our secular law. Oh, and stop knocking on my door!

Well, the probl is the fact that democracy is a basically majority rule. So law is dictated by majority. It seems to me also that in the US and in general western Europe a lot of church state separation actually originated from trying to stop religious wars. As in, the colonies had many Christian factions so they tried to have a compromise to avoid religious wars. 

        I mean if 80 percent if the US in every state suddenly became fundamentalist Christians they could change the Constitution and enforce church attendance .

     You are safe bk the Christians in your country bicker too much among themselves to actually reach such a grand solidarity anyway