Is scriptural human "spirit", our consciousness and perception of reality?

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3 minutes ago, walterpthefirst said:

 

Anyway, don't you have it backwards here?

 

Since god is all knowing, he knew who his children were before he created the universe.

 

Which means that the test must be for his children to find him.

 

That's logic, again.

 

If you read the QM stuff, you would understand the core of physicality is virtual ...that means the core of reality is virtual ...GOD is doing a virtual test. It's WHY He is All Knowing.

 

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10 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

Yes.  We also know that the book of Job is the oldest book in the bible, which means it came before the Law and the Garden.

 

So, how did sin get into heaven?

 

Mosaic Law isn't the only Law, Abraham had some ...and as i already said Adam did also.
 

You seem to not realize what sin is ...it is Making your meaning of Life ...to be death.

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Just now, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

If you read the QM stuff, you would understand the core of physicality is virtual ...that means the core of reality is virtual ...GOD is doing a virtual test. It's WHY He is All Knowing.

 

 

Where does QM specifically identify the Christian god as the one doing the virtual test?

 

The answer is the same as before.

 

Nowhere.

 

 

 

 

 

[walterpthefirst]

So, which way round is it, RKI?

 

Is the test for god to find his children, as you said?

 

Or is it for his children to find him?

 

Please answer.

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1 minute ago, walterpthefirst said:

 

Where does QM specifically identify the Christian god as the one doing the virtual test?

 

The answer is the same as before.

 

Nowhere.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The first step for you is to realize there has to be a GOD ...you are still free to burn ...but you can't avoid this fact.

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1 minute ago, walterpthefirst said:

So, which way round is it, RKI?

 

Is the test for god to find his children, as you said?

 

Or is it for his children to find him?

 

Please answer.

 

You pretend that GOD doesn't see the future. Your Free Will is from your point of view ...not GOD'S. GOD Sets the Plan AFTER you made your choices.

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1 minute ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

The first step for you is to realize there has to be a GOD ...you are still free to burn ...but you can't avoid this fact.

 

Ok, so where does QM specifically identify which god this is?

 

If there's no identification to be found in QM, why are you posting about it?

 

 

[TheRedneckProfessor]

1 minute ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

Mosaic Law isn't the only Law, Abraham had some ...and as i already said Adam did also.

Okay.  So, to recap: Adam and Eve were motivated by sin, which wasn't actually sin, to commit a sin, which actually was a sin, but only after they sinned, because of the law, which states that pretty much everything is a sin, unless god says it's okay, like bashing babies' brains out against the stones or lusting after horse genitals.

 

With that in mind, how did sin get into heaven?

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1 minute ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

Okay.  So, to recap: Adam and Eve were motivated by sin, which wasn't actually sin, to commit a sin, which actually was a sin, but only after they sinned, because of the law, which states that pretty much everything is a sin, unless god says it's okay, like bashing babies' brains out against the stones or lusting after horse genitals.

 

With that in mind, how did sin get into heaven?

 

i already posted about this, satan had direct evidence of GOD ...that's how sin got into Heaven.

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1 minute ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

You pretend that GOD doesn't see the future. Your Free Will is from your point of view ...not GOD'S. GOD Sets the Plan AFTER you made your choices.

 

I don't pretend anything, RKI.

 

That's you bearing false witness against me again, stating as truth what you don't know about me.

 

 

All I did was to ask you a question about what you wrote.

 

And you dodged it.

 

 

You wrote that the test is for god to find his children.

 

Seriously?

 

The all knowing god doesn't know who his children are?

 

So he needs to set a test to find out who they are?

 

 

 

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Just now, walterpthefirst said:

 

I don't pretend anything, RKI.

 

That's you bearing false witness against me again, stating as truth what you don't know about me.

 

 

All I did was to ask you a question about what you wrote.

 

And you dodged it.

 

 

You wrote that the test is for god to find his children.

 

Seriously?

 

The all knowing god doesn't know who his children are?

 

So he needs to set a test to find out who they are?

 

 

 

What part of "virtual test" ..are you not getting?

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Just now, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

What part of "virtual test" ..are you not getting?

 

I understand that virtual reality is not reality itself.

 

Therefore, if god's test is a virtual one, then it's not a real one.

 

 

 

 

[midniterider]

1 hour ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

i already covered this, dead spirits don't get direct evidence.

 

Then your God is a moron.

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1 minute ago, midniterider said:

 

Then your God is a moron.

yes, that is what a dead spirit would say.

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4 minutes ago, walterpthefirst said:

 

I understand that virtual reality is not reality itself.

 

Therefore, if god's test is a virtual one, then it's not a real one.

 

 

 

 

 

It's virtual to Him ...He makes it real for us.

[midniterider]

1 hour ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

i already covered this, dead spirits don't get direct evidence.

 

These are the vague bits that YOU think are amazing. Lol. Why do you think these videos are so fabulous? 

 

Seriously, YOU don't get direct evidence either. Nobody does. 

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3 minutes ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

yes, that is what a dead spirit would say.

 

And your behaviour in this forum is an example of how a living spirit behaves, RKI... ?

[walterpthefirst]

1 minute ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

It's virtual to Him ...He makes it real for us.

 

Oh, so you mean that his own test isn't real to him?

 

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Just now, walterpthefirst said:

 

And your behaviour in this forum is an example of how a living spirit behaves, RKI... ?

 

i'm very aware of when satan is using people as a puppet.

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Just now, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

i'm very aware of when satan is using people as a puppet.

 

An excellent worked example of what I meant.

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1 minute ago, walterpthefirst said:

 

Oh, so you mean that his own test isn't real to him?

 

 

Virtual is how we humans can describe it ..that's all. "Virtual" is the unobservable ...to us.

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1 minute ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

i'm very aware of when satan is using people as a puppet.

 

And yet I haven't borne false witness against once, but you've done that to me three times so far.

 

So, who is the servant of the father of lies in this thread?

 

Can't be me.

 

I haven't borne false witness against anyone.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

4 minutes ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

i already posted about this, satan had direct evidence of GOD ...that's how sin got into Heaven.

So, god created satan with sin and then let him into heaven; but then kicked him back out of heaven because of his sin.  That makes about as much sense as a football bat. 

 

Let's examine this.  Satan was created with sin, by an omniscient god who knew he would sin and when he did, god rejected him because of it.  Rather than deal with the problem in heaven, god, then sent him into the world where god knew he would tempt people into sinning as well.  Now, rather than taking responsibility himself, god wants to blame us for the shithole this world has become.  god wants to throw us all into hell because he was too lazy or cowardly to deal with satan's sinfulness himself.  god is such a coward that he even sent somebody else to die for the sin that he was too prideful or insecure to deal with when it first happened.  god could have nipped the whole thing in the bud; but instead he puts this elaborate charade into place in an effort to shift the blame for his own mistakes onto someone else. 

 

Your god is a fucking coward.

 

Your god is more than welcome to kiss my lilly white ass.  And, before I forget, the holy spirit enjoys fornication with billy goats and does not tip waitresses.

[walterpthefirst]

1 minute ago, Reborn_Kingdom_Image said:

 

Virtual is how we humans can describe it ..that's all. "Virtual" is the unobservable ...to us.

 

I see.

 

So this is a test where we get no direct evidence and which is unobservable to us.

 

Like I said.

 

A rigged and unfair test.

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Just now, walterpthefirst said:

 

And yet I haven't borne false witness against once, but you've done that to me three times so far.

 

So, who is the servant of the father of lies in this thread?

 

Can't be me.

 

I haven't borne false witness against anyone.

k, how do think your excuse is going to play out on Judgment Day?