Myrkhoos Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Hi. So I was listening to an Imam expressing ideas about human suffering. The same old - free will + God's wisdom is greater than our own but we trust it is for the good. I confess I did not listen to the end of the answer. I had this feeling that it's off, but not just because of usual counter arguments. It just seemed that he filled some emotional needs with those answers, not intelectual answers. - The need for control , like we can control things with our will, and what we cannot is being controlled by this omnimax parent figure upon which we project all or many of our desires for love and safety. I said this before, but it just makes way more sense when you look at religions mainly through the emotional lens, not the intelectual one. They are mote a "psychological" product than a "logical" product. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheory Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Yes, of course. Religion is based upon the subject emotional side of humans, while the disbelief in region is more related to the object considerations of human thinking via discoveries, insight, and logic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wertbag Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 There are always double standards when they say such things. "Knowing God would remove your freewill!" - "Adam, Noah, Moses, Elijah and hundreds of others knew God and still had freewill" "We can't know the good that God does!" - "Morals are objective, unchanging and written on our hearts. You instinctively know when something is wrong" Getting a single coherent message is a hard first hurdle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrkhoos Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Wertbag said: There are always double standards when they say such things. "Knowing God would remove your freewill!" - "Adam, Noah, Moses, Elijah and hundreds of others knew God and still had freewill" "We can't know the good that God does!" - "Morals are objective, unchanging and written on our hearts. You instinctively know when something is wrong" Getting a single coherent message is a hard first hurdle. This** times a hundred million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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