Reverend AtheiStar Posted June 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 But are they biologists? http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/fi...download&id=660 I count 17 at of 28 Scientist on the first page as biology related. Why would you stop on the first page? Would that be to give a false impression? Let's look at the list in it's entirety: Philip Skell Emeritus, Evan Pugh Prof. of Chemistry Pennsylvania State University Member of the National Academy Lyle H. Jensen Professor Emeritus Dept. of Biological Structure & Dept. of Biochemistry University of Washington, Fellow Maciej Giertych Full Professor, Institute of Dendrology Polish Academy of Sciences Lev Beloussov Prof. of Embryology, Honorary Prof., Moscow State University Member, Russian Academy of Eugene Buff Ph.D. Genetics Institute of Developmental Biology, Russian Academy of Sciences Emil Palecek Prof. of Molecular Biology, Masaryk University; Leading Scientist Inst. of Biophysics, Academy of K. Mosto Onuoha Shell Professor of Geology & Deputy Vice-Chancellor, Univ. of Nigeria Fellow, Nigerian Academy of Science Ferenc Jeszenszky Former Head of the Center of Research Groups Hungarian Academy of Sciences Henry Schaefer Director, Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry University of Georgia Russell Carlson Professor of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology University of Georgia Michael Behe Professor of Biological Science Lehigh University Alan Linton Emeritus Professor of Bacteriology University of Bristol Dean Kenyon Emeritus Professor of Biology San Francisco State University David W. Forslund Ph.D. Astrophysics, Princeton University Fellow of American Physical Society Robert W. Bass Ph.D. Mathematics (also: Rhodes Scholar; Post-Doc at Princeton) Johns Hopkins University John Hey Associate Clinical Prof. (also: Fellow, American Geriatrics Society) Dept. of Family Medicine, Univ. Daniel W. Heinze Ph.D. Geophysics (also: Post-Doc Fellow, Carnegie Inst. of Washington) Texas A&M University William Dembski Ph.D. Mathematics University of Chicago David Chapman* Senior Scientist Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Giuseppe Sermonti Professor of Genetics, Ret. (also: Editor, Rivista di Biologia/Biology Forum) University of Perugia (Italy) Stanley Salthe Emeritus Professor Biological Sciences Brooklyn College of the City University Donald Ewert Ph.D. Microbiology University of Georgia Bernard d'Abrera Visiting Scholar, Department of Entomology British Museum (Natural History) Mae-Wan Ho Ph.D. Biochemistry Hong Kong University Scott Minnich Professor, Dept of Microbiology, Molecular Biology & Biochemistry University of Idaho Jeffrey Schwartz Assoc. Res. Psychiatrist, Dept. of Psychiatry & Biobehavioral Sciences University of California, Los Angeles Ralph Seelke Professor of Molecular and Cellular Biology University of Wisconsin, Superior Annika Parantainen Ph.D. Biology University of Turku, Finland John Brejda Ph.D. Agronomy University of Nebraska, Lincoln Bradley R. Johnson Ph.D. Materials Science University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Rudolf Brits Ph.D. Nuclear Chemistry University of Stellenbosch, South Africa Gary Kastello Ph.D. Biology University of Wisonsin-Milwaukee Frederick Brooks Kenan Professor of Computer Science University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Omer Faruk Noyan Assistant Professor (Ph.D. Paleontology) Celal Bayar University, Turkey Neil Broom Associate Professor, Chemical & Materials Engineering University of Auckland Malcolm D. Chisholm Ph.D. Insect Ecology (M.A. Zoology, Oxford University) University of Bristol, UK John Brown Research Meteorologist National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Joseph A. Kunicki Associate Professor of Mathematics The University of Findlay John Brumbaugh Emeritus Professor of Biological Sciences University of Nebraska (Lincoln) Thomas M. Stackhouse Ph.D. Biochemistry University of California, Davis Nancy Bryson Associate Professor of Chemistry Mississippi University for Women Walter L. Starkey Professor Emeritus of Mechanical Engineering The Ohio State University Donald Calbreath Professor, Department of Chemistry Whitworth College Pingnan Shi Ph.D. Electrical Engineering (Artificial Neural Networks) University of British Columbia John Cannon Associate Research Fellow Abbott Laboratories John L. Burba Ph.D. Physical Chemistry Baylor University Stephen J. Cheesman Ph.D. Geophysics University of Toronto Mike Forward Ph.D. Applied Mathematics (Chaos Theory) Imperial College, University of London David Chambers Physicist Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Michael T. Goodrich Professor of Computer Science University of California, Irvine T. Timothy Chen Ph.D. Statistics University of Chicago Sarah M. Williams Ph.D. Environmental Engineering (emphasis in microbiology) Stanford University Donald Clark Ph.D. Physical Biochemistry Louisiana State University John Frederick Zino Ph.D. Nuclear Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Shing-Yan Chiu Professor of Physiology University of Wisconsin, Madison John Cimbala Professor of Mechanical Engineering Pennsylvania State University Chris Swanson Tutor (Ph.D. Physics, University of Oregon) Gutenberg College Kieran Clements Assistant Professor, Natural Sciences Toccoa Falls College George A. Gates Emeritus Emeritus Professor of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery University of Washington John Cogdell Professor of Electrical & Computer Engineering University of Texas (Austin) David R. Beaucage Ph.D. Mathematics State University of New York at Stony Brook Leon Combs Professor & Chair, Chemistry & Biochemistry Kennesaw State University Laraba P. Kendig Ph.D. Materials Science & Engineering University of Michigan Nicholas Comninellis Associate Professor of Community and Family Medicine University of Missouri-Kansas City Stephen Crouse Professor of Kinesiology Texas A&M Cham Dallas Professor, Pharmaceutics & Biomedical Science University of Georgia Charles N. Verheyden Professor of Surgery Texas A&M College of Medicine Anne Dambricourt-Malasse Paleoanthropologist Institut de Paléontologie Humaine, Prehistory Lab Melody Davis Ph.D. Chemistry Princeton University Thomas Deahl Ph.D. Radiation Biology The University of Iowa Robert DeHaan Ph.D. Human Development University of Chicago Gage Blackstone Doctor of Veterinary Medicine Texas A&M Harold Delaney Professor of Psychology University of New Mexico Jonathan C. Boomgaarden Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin Keith Delaplane Professor of Entomology University of Georgia William Bordeaux Chair, Department of Natural & Mathematical Science Huntington College Michael Delp Professor of Physiology Texas A&M University Keith F. Conner Ph.D. Electrical Engineering Clemson University David DeWitt Ph.D. Neuroscience Case Western University Aaron J. Miller Ph.D. Physics Stanford University Gary Dilts Ph.D. Mathematical Physics University of Colorado Gerald Chubb Associate Professor of Aviation Ohio State University Robert DiSilvestro Ph.D. Biochemistry Texas A & M University Daniel Dix Associate Professor of Mathematics University of South Carolina Allison Dobson Assistant Professor, Chemistry Georgia Southern University Kenneth Dormer Ph.D. Biology & Physiology University of California (Los Angeles) John Doughty Ph.D. Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering University of Arizona Jeanne Drisko Clinical Assistant Professor of Alternative Medicine University of Kansas, School of Medicine Robert Eckel Professor of Medicine, Physiology & Biophysics University of Colorado Health Sciences Center Seth Edwards Associate Professor of Geology University of Texas (El Paso) Eduard F. Schmitter Ph.D. Astronomy University of Wisconsin Lee Eimers Professor of Physics & Mathematics Cedarville University Daniel Ely Professor, Biology University of Akron Thomas English Adjunct Professor of Physics & Engineering Palomar College Danielle Dalafave Associate Professor of Physics The College of New Jersey Richard Erdlac Ph.D. Structural Geology University of Texas (Austin) Michael C. Reynolds Assistant Professor of Mechanical Engineering University of Arkansas-Fort Smith Bruce Evans Ph.D. Neurobiology Emory University Gary Achtemeier Ph.D. Meteorology Florida State University William Everson Ph.D. Human Physiology Penn State College of Medicine James Florence Associate Professor, Department of Public Health East Tennessee State University Douglas R. Buck Ph.D. Nutrition and Food Sciences Utah State University Fellow, American College of Nutrition Margaret Flowers Professor of Biology Wells College Itienne Windisch Ph.D. Engineering McGill University (Montreal, Canada) Mark Foster Ph.D. Chemical Engineering University of Minnesota Suzanne Sawyer Vincent Ph.D. Physiology & Biophysics University of Washington Clarence Fouche Professor of Biology Virginia Intermont College Robert Blomgren Ph.D. Mathematics University of Minnesota Kenneth French Chairman, Division of Natural Science Blinn College Richard N. Taylor Professor of Information & Computer Science University of California, Irvine Marvin Fritzler Professor of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology University of Calgary, Medical School Walter E. Lillo Ph.D. Electrical Engineering Purdue University Mark Fuller Ph.D. Microbiology University of California, Davis Daniel Galassini Doctor of Veterinary Medicine Kansas State University Andrew Fong Ph.D. Chemistry Indiana University John Garth Ph.D. Physics University of Illinois (Champaign-Urbana) Glen O. Brindley Professor of Surgery, Director of Ophthalmology Scott & White Clinic, Texas A&M University H.S.C. Ann Gauger Ph.D. Zoology University of Washington Paul Brown Assistant Professor of Environmental Studies Trinity Western University (Canada) Mark Geil Ph.D. Biomedical Engineering Ohio State University Ibrahim Barsoum Ph.D. Microbiology The George Washington University Jim Gibson Ph.D. Biology Loma Linda University John W. Balliet Ph.D. Molecular & Cellular Biology University of Pennsylvania, Post-doctoral Fellowship, Harvard Medical School William Gilbert Emeritus Professor of Biology Simpson College Joe R. Eagleman Professor Emeritus, Department of Physics & Astronomy University of Kansas Warren Gilson Associate Professor, Dairy Science University of Georgia Raul Leguizamon Professor of Medicine (Pathology) Autonomous University of Guadalajara, Mexico Steven Gollmer Ph.D. Atmospheric Science Purdue University Gene B. Chase Professor of Mathematics and Computer Science (Ph.D. Cornell) Messiah College Chris Grace Associate Professor of Psychology Biola University James A. Ellard, Sr. Ph.D. Chemistry University of Kentucky Richard Gunasekera Ph.D. Biochemical Genetics Baylor University Jennifer M. Cohen Ph.D. Mathematical Physics New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology Graham Gutsche Emeritus Professor of Physics U.S. Naval Academy Dan Hale Professor of Animal Science Texas A&M University Robert L. Jones Associate Professor, Department of Ophthalmology University of California, Irvine James Harbrecht Clinical Associate Professor, Division of Cardiology University of Kansas Medical Center George W. Benthien Ph.D. Mathematics Carnegie Mellon University James Harman Associate Chair, Dept. of Chemistry & Biochemistry Texas Tech University Frederick T. Zugibe Emeritus Adjunct Associate Professor of Pathology Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons William Harris Ph.D. Nutritional Biochemistry University of Minnesota Thomas H. Johnson Ph.D. Mathematics University of Maryland Paul Hausgen Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Gregory A. Snyder Ph.D. Geochemistry Colorado School of Mines Walter Hearn Ph.D. Biochemistry University of Illinois Howard Martin Whitcraft Ph.D. Mathematics University of St. Louis Nolan Hertel Professor, Nuclear & Radiological Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Joseph Francis Associate Professor of Biology Cedarville University Roland Hirsch Ph.D. Analytical Chemistry University of Michigan Charles Edward Norman Ph.D. Electrical Engineering Carleton University (Canada) Dewey Hodges Professor, Aerospace Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology James P. Russum Ph.D. Chemical Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Marko Horb Ph.D. Cell & Developmental Biology State University of New York Joe Watkins Military Professor, Department of Mechanical Engineering United States Military Academy Barton Houseman Emeritus Professor of Chemistry Goucher College Mark Pritt Ph.D. Mathematics Yale University Cornelius Hunter Ph.D. Biophysics University of Illinois Rodney Ice Principle Research Scientist, Nuclear & Radiological Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Malcolm W. MacArthur Ph.D. Molecular Biophysics University of London Muzaffar Iqbal Ph.D. Chemistry University of Saskatchewan Mark P. Bowman Ph.D. Organic Chemistry Pennsylvania State University David Ives Emeritus Professor of Biochemistry Ohio State University Amiel Jarstfer Associate Professor of Biology LeTourneau University Stephan J. G. Gift Professor of Electrical Engineering The University of the West Indies Tony Jelsma Ph.D. Biochemistry McMaster University Fred Johnson Ph.D. Pathology Vanderbilt University Raleigh R. White, IV Professor of Surgery Texas A&M University, College of Medicine Jerry Johnson Ph.D. Pharmacology & Toxicology Purdue University Harold D. Cole Professor of Physiology Southwestern Oklahoma State University Richard Johnson Professor of Chemistry LeTourneau University David Hagen Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering University of Minnesota David Johnson Associate Professor of Pharmacology & Toxicology Duquesne University Jay Hollman Assistant Clinical Professor of Cardiology Louisiana State University—Health Science Center Lawrence Johnston Emeritus Professor of Physics University of Idaho Albert J. Starshak Ph.D. Physical Chemistry Illinois Institute of Technology Robert Jones Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering University of Texas-Pan America Scott T. Dreher Ph.D. Geology (Royal Society USA Research Fellow) University of Alaska, Fairbanks David Jones Professor of Biochemistry & Chair of Chemistry Grove City College Robert Kaita Ph.D. Nuclear Physics Rutgers University Kenneth Demarest Professor of Electrical Engineering University of Kansas Edwin Karlow Chair, Department of Physics LaSierra University Francis M. Donahue Professor Emeritus, Chemical Engineering The University of Michigan James Keener Professor of Mathematics & Adjunct of Bioengineering University of Utah Shawn Wright Ph.D. Crop Science North Carolina State University Douglas Keil Ph.D. Plasma Physics University of Wisconsin, Madison Dave Finnegan Staff Member (Ph.D. Chemistry, University of Maryland) Los Alamos National Laboratory Micheal Kelleher Ph.D. Biophysical Chemistry University of Ibadan Christine B. Beaucage Ph.D. Mathematics State University of New York at Stony Brook Rebecca Keller Research Professor, Department of Chemistry University of New Mexico Michael Kent Ph.D. Materials Science University of Minnesota Richard Kinch Ph.D. Computer Science Cornell University Irfan Yilmaz Professor of Biology (Ph.D. Systematic Zoology) Dokuz Eylul University (Turkey) Bretta King Assistant Professor of Chemistry Spelman College Mauricio Alcocer Director of Graduate Studies (Ph.D. Plant Science, University of Idaho) Autonomous University of Guadalajara, Mexico R. Barry King Prof. of Environmental Safety & Health Albuquerque Technical Vocational Institute Hiroshi Ishii M.D., Ph.D. Behavioral Neurology Tohoku University, Japan Michael Kinnaird Ph.D. Organic Chemistry University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Lasse Uotila M.D., Ph.D. Medicinal Biochemistry University of Helsinki, Finland Donald Kobe Professor of Physics University of North Texas, Denton Martin Emery Ph.D. Chemistry University of Southampton (UK) Charles Koons Ph.D. Organic Chemistry University of Minnesota Miguel A. Rodriguez Undergraduate Lab. Coordinator for Biochemistry University of Ottawa (Canada) Carl Koval Full Professor, Chemistry & Biochemistry University of Colorado, Boulder Magda Narciso Leite Professor, College of Pharmacy & Biochemistry Universidade Federal de Juiz de For a (Brazil) Bruce Krogh Professor of Electrical & Computer Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Tetsuichi Takagi Senior Research Scientist Geological Survey of Japan Daniel Kuebler Ph.D. Molecular & Cellular Biology University of California, Berkeley Peter William Holyland Ph.D. Geology University of Queensland (Australia) Paul Kuld Associate Professor, Biological Science Biola University M.M. Ninan Former President Hindustan Academy of Science, Bangalore University (India) Heather Kuruvilla Ph.D. Biological Sciences State University of New York, Buffalo Nancy L. Swanson Ph.D. Physics Florida State University Martin LaBar Ph. D. Genetics & Zoology University of Wisconsin, Madison William B. Hart Assistant Professor of Mathematics University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Teresa Larranaga Ph.D. Pharmacology University of New Mexico Yuri Zharikov Post-Doctoral Research Fellow (Ph.D. Zoology) Simon Fraser University (Canada) Ronald Larson Professor and Chair of Chemical Engineering University of Michigan Wolfgang Hutter Ph.D. Chemistry University of Ulm (Germany) Robert Lattimer Ph.D. Chemistry University of Kansas, Lawrence Robert J. Graham Ph.D. Chemical Engineering Iowa State University M. Harold Laughlin Professor & Chair, Department of Biomedical Sciences University of Missouri George Lebo Associate Professor of Astronomy University of Florida Kurt J. Henle Professor Emeritus (Ph.D. Biophysics, University of Pennsylvania) University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences J.B. Lee Assistant Professor of Electrical Engineering University of Texas, Dallas Matti Leisola Professor, Laboratory of Bioprocess Engineering Helsinki University of Technology Manuel Garcia Ulloa Gomez Director of Marine Sciences Laboratory Autonomous University of Guadalajara, Mexico E. Lennard Sc. D. Surgical Infections & Immunology University of Cincinnati Lane Lester Ph.D. Genetics Purdue University Catherine Lewis Ph.D. Geophysics Colorado School of Mines Peter Line Ph.D. Neuroscience Swinburne University of Technology, Australia Garrick Little Ph.D. Organic Chemistry Texas A & M Harry Lubansky Ph.D. Biological Chemistry University of Illinois, Chicago Ken Ludema Emeritus Professor of Mechanical Engineering University of Michigan Jed Macosko Ph.D. Chemistry University of California, Berkeley Christopher Macosko Ph.D. Chemical Engineering Princeton University David Keller Associate Professor of Chemistry University of New Mexico Allen Magnuson Ph. D. Theoretical & Applied Mechanics University of New Hampshire Donald Mahan Professor of Animal Nutrition Ohio State University Robert Marks Professor, Signal & Image Processing University of Washington Jesus Ambriz Professor of Medicine Autonomous University of Guadalajara, Mexico Julie Marshall Ph.D. Chemistry Texas Tech University David McClellan Assistant Professor of Family & Community Medicine Texas A&M University College of Medicine Andy McIntosh Full Professor, Department of Thermodynamics University of Leeds Tom McMullen Ph.D. History & Philosophy of Science Indiana University Tony Mega Ph.D. Biochemistry Purdue University James Menart Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering Wright State University J. Meredith Assistant Professor, Chemical Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Theodor Liss Ph.D. Chemistry Massachusetts Institute of Technology James Keesling Professor of Mathematics University of Florida Gordon Mills Emeritus Professor of Biochemistry University of Texas, Medical Branch Stephen Meyer Ph.D. Philosophy of Science Cambridge University Brian Miller Ph.D. Physics Duke University Thomas Milner Associate Professor of Biomedical Engineering University of Texas, Austin Forrest Mims Atmospheric Researcher Geronimo Creek Observatory Paul Missel Ph.D. Physics Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lennart Möller Professor, Center for Nutrition & Toxicology Karolinska Institute David Monson Ph.D. Analytical Chemistry Indiana University Terry Morrison Ph.D. Chemistry Syracuse University Terrance Murphy Professor of Chemistry Weill Cornell Medical College Ed Neeland Professor of Chemistry Okanagan University Bijan Nemati Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Washington William Russell Belding Ph.D. Mathematics University of Notre Dame David Ness Ph.D. Anthropology Temple University Paul Nesselroade Associate Professor of Psychology Asbury College Kevin L. Kendig Ph.D. Materials Science & Engineering University of Michigan Robert Newman Ph.D. Astrophysics Cornell University John Nichols Ph.D. Mathematics University of Tennessee Angus Menuge Ph.D. Philosophy of Psychology University of Wisconsin-Madison Art Nitz Ph.D. Anatomy & Neurobiology University of Kentucky Janet Parker Professor of Medical Physiology Texas A&M University, Health Science Center Scott Northrup Chair and Professor of Chemistry Tennessee Tech University William Notz Professor of Statistics Ohio State University Hugh Nutley* Professor Emeritus of Physics & Engineering Seattle Pacific University Wesley Nyborg Emeritus Professor of Physics University of Vermont Dónal O'Mathúna Ph.D. Pharmacognosy Ohio State University John Omdahl Professor of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology University of New Mexico Fazale Rana Ph.D. Chemistry Ohio University Rebecca Orr Ph.D. Cell Biology University of Texas, Southwestern Lawrence Overzet Professor of Engineering & Computer Science University of Texas, Dallas Siddarth Pandey Assistant Professor of Chemistry New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology Yongsoon Park Ph.D. Nutritional Biochemistry Washington State University Rafe Payne Ph.D. Biology University of Nebraska Russel Peak Senior Researcher, Engineering Information Systems Georgia Institute of Technology S. W. Pelletier* Emeritus Distinguished Professor of Chemistry University of Georgia, Athens Edward Peltzer Ph.D. Oceanography University of California, San Diego (Scripps Institute) Todd Peterson Ph.D. Plant Physiology University of Rhode Island Rosalind Picard Sc.D. Electrical Engineering & Computer Science Massachusetts Institute of Technology Carl Poppe Ph.D. Physics University of Wisconsin Ernest Prabhakar Ph.D. Experimental Particle Physics California Institute of Technology David Prentice Professor, Department of Life Sciences Indiana State University Pattle Pun Professor of Biology Wheaton College William Purcell Ph.D. Physical Chemistry Princeton University Georgia Purdom Ph.D. Molecular Genetics Ohio State University Paul Randolph Ph.D. Mathematical Statistics University of Minnesota David Reed Ph.D Entomology University of California, Riverside J. Ishizaki Associate Professor of Neuropsychology (M.D., Ph.D. Medicine) Kobe Gakuin University (Japan) Patricia Reiff Director, Rice Space Institute Rice University Dan Reynolds Ph.D. Organic Chemistry University of Texas, Austin Terry Rickard Ph.D. Engineering Physics University of California, San Diego Eliot Roberts Ph.D. Soil Chemistry Rutgers University Quinton Rogers Prof. of Physiological Chemistry, Dept. of Molecular Biosciences Univ. of California, Davis, School of Vet. Medicine Liang Hong Associate Professor, Dept. of Dental Public Health & Behavioral Science University of Missouri—Kansas City David Rogstad Ph.D. Physics California Institute of Technology Daniel Romo Professor of Chemistry Texas A&M University David Sabatini Professor Civil Engineering & Environmental Science University of Oklahoma Victoriano Saenz Professor of Medicine Autonomous University of Guadalajara, Mexico Theodore Saito Ph.D. Physics Pennsylvania State University Thomas Saleska Professor of Biology Concordia University Fernando Saravi Professor, Department of Morphology and Physiology Med. Sciences School, Univ. Nacional de Cuyo Phillip Savage Professor of Chemical Engineering University of Michigan Dale Schaefer Professor, Materials Science & Engineering University of Cincinnati Siegfried Scherer Professor of Microbial Ecology Technische Universität München Norman Schmidt Professor of Chemistry Georgia Southern University Andrew Schmitz Ph.D. Inorganic Chemistry University of Iowa Granville Sewell Professor of Mathematics University of Texas, El Paso Stephen Sewell Assistant Professor of Family Medicine Texas A&M Gregory Shearer Ph.D. Physiology University of California, Davis David Shormann Ph.D. Limnology Texas A&M University Dale Spence Emeritus Professor of Kinesiology Rice University Arnold Sikkema Associate Professor of Physics Dordt College Larry S. Helmick Senior Professor of Chemistry Cedarville University John Silvius Ph.D. Plant Physiology West Virginia University Fred Skiff Professor of Physics University of Iowa Ken Smith Professor of Mathematics Central Michigan University Robert Smith Professor of Chemistry University of Nebraska, Omaha Wolfgang Smith Emeritus Professor of Mathematics Oregon State University John Stamper Research Physicist Naval Research Laboratory Jeffrey L. Vaughn Ph.D. Engineering University of California, Irvine Timothy Standish Ph.D. Environmental Biology George Mason University Walt Stangl Associate Professor of Mathematics Biola University Karl Stephan Associate Professor, Dept. of Technology Texas State University, San Marcos Richard Sternberg Ph.D. Molecular Biology Florida International University Reid W. Castrodale P.E., Ph.D. Structural Engineering University of Texas, Austin Michael Strauss Associate Professor of Physics University of Oklahoma John Studenroth Ph.D. Plant Pathology Cornell University Mark Swanson Ph.D. Biochemistry University of Illinois James Swanson Professor of Biological Sciences Old Dominion University Bela Szilagyi Ph.D. Physics University of Pittsburgh Richard Mann Ph.D. Physical Chemistry Princeton University Daniel Tedder Associate Professor, Chemical Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Charles Thaxton Ph.D. Physical Chemistry Iowa State University Christopher L. Thomas Ph.D. Analytical Chemistry University of South Carolina Pavithran Thomas Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering Ohio State University Richard Thompson Ph.D. Computer Science University of Connecticut James R. Thompson Noah Harding Professor of Statistics Rice University Ide Trotter Ph.D. Chemical Engineering Princeton University Royal Truman Ph.D. Organic Chemistry Michigan State University James Tumlin Associate Professor of Medicine Emory University David Van Dyke Ph.D. Analytical Chemistry University of Illinois, Urbana Robert VanderVennen Ph.D. Physical Chemistry Michigan State University Vincente Villa Emeritus Professor of Biology Southwestern University Margil Wadley Ph.D. Inorganic Chemistry Purdue University Carston Wagner Associate Professor of Medicinal Chemistry University of Minnesota Linda Walkup Ph.D. Molecular Genetics University of New Mexico Medical School John Walkup Emeritus Professor of Electrical & Computer Engineering Texas Tech University Robert Waltzer Associate Professor of Biology Belhaven College Todd Watson Assistant Professor of Urban & Community Forestry Texas A & M University Woody Weed Mechanical Engineer, Science & Technology Division Sandia National Labs Gerald Wegner Ph.D. Entomology Loyola University Jonathan Wells Ph.D. Molecular & Cell Biology University of California, Berkeley Robert Wentworth Ph.D. Toxicology University of Georgia R. P. Wharton Ph.D. Electrical Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Elden Whipple Affiliate Professor of Earth & Space Sciences University of Washington Mark White Professor of Chemical Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Gregg Wilkerson Ph.D. Geologic Science University of Texas, El Paso John H. Whitmore Associate Professor of Geology Cedarville University Christopher Williams Ph.D. Biochemistry Ohio State University J. Mitch Wolff Professor of Mechanical Engineering Wright State University John Worraker Ph.D. Applied Mathematics University of Bristol (UK) Alexander Yankovsky Assistant Professor of Physical Oceanography Nova Southeastern University Patrick Young Ph.D. Chemistry Ohio University David Zartman Ph.D. Genetics & Animal Breeding Ohio State University Henry Zuill Emeritus Professor of Biology Union College Frank Young Ph.D. Computer Engineering Air Force Institute of Technology Murray E. Moore Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering Texas A&M University Martin Poenie Associate Professor of Molecular and Cell Biology University of Texas, Austin William J. Powers Ph.D. Physics University California, San Diego Mark A. Robinson Ph.D. Environmental Science` Lacrosse University Rosa María Muñoz Head of Biopharmacy Department Autonomous University of Guadalajara (Mexico) Scott R. Fulton Ph.D. Atmospheric Science Colorado State University Don Olson Ph.D. Analytical Chemistry Purdue University Graham Marshall Ph.D. Analytical Chemistry University of Pratoria (South Africa) Philip R. Page Ph.D. Theoretical Particle Physics University of Oxford (UK) Roger Wiens Ph.D. Physics University of Minnesota Mark Toleman Ph.D. Molecular Microbiology Bristol University (UK) Robert O. Kalbach Ph.D. Physical Chemistry University of South Florida Gregory J. Brewer Prof. of Neurology, Medical Microbiology, Immunology and Cell Biology Southern Illinois University School of Medicine Neil Huber Dr. rer. nat. (Ph.D. Anthropology) Tuebingen University Marc C. Daniels Assistant Professor of Biology William Carey College J.D. Moolenburgh Ph.D. Epidemiology University of Rotterdam (The Netherlands) Roger Lien Ph.D. Physiology North Carolina State University Dean Schulz Ph.D. Computer Science Colorado State University John Millam Ph.D. Computational Chemistry Rice University Joseph Lary Epidemiologist and Research Biologist (retired) Centers for Disease Control Richard S. Beale, Jr. Ph.D. Entomology University of California, Berkeley Tianyou Wang Research Scientist Center for Advanced Studies in Measurement & Assessment, University of Iowa Øyvind A. Voie Ph.D. Biology University of Oslo David K. Shortess Professor of Biology (Retired) New Mexico Tech A.D. Harrison Emeritus Professor of Biology University of Waterloo William P. Shulaw Professor of Veterinary Preventive Medicine The Ohio State University Darrell R. Parnell Ph. D. University Level Science Education Kansas State University Daniel W. Barnette Ph. D. Aerospace Engineering Stanford University Edward M. Bohn Ph. D. Nuclear Engineering University of Illinois Robert G. Vos Ph.D. Civil/Structural Engineering Rice University Yvonne Boldt Ph. D. Microbiology University of Minnesota William B. Collier Ph. D. Physical Chemistry Oklahoma State University Malcolm A. Cutchins Ph. D. Engineering Mechanics Virginia Tech Lisanne D’Andrea-Winslow Ph. D. Cell Biology & Biochemistry Rutgers University Holger Daugaard Ph. D. Agronomy Danish Institute of Agricultural Sciences Shieu-Hong Lin Assistant Professor of Computer Science (Ph.D., Brown University) Biola University W. John Durfee Assistant Professor of Pharmacology Case Western Reserve University Dominic M. Halsmer Ph. D. Mechanical Engineering UCLA Jeffrey H. Harwell Ph. D. Chemical Engineering University of Texas, Austin Frank Cheng Associate Professor of Chemistry University of Idaho David Heddle Ph. D. Physics Carnegie Mellon University Barbara S. Helmkamp Ph.D. Theoretical Physics Louisiana State University David C. Kem Professor of Medicine University of Oklahoma College of Medicine C. Thomas Luiskutty Ph.D. Physics Univ. of Louisville Wusi Maki Research Asst. Professor, Dept. of Microbiology, Mol. Biology, & Biochem. University of Idaho A. Cordell Perkes Ph.D. Science Education Ohio State University John D. Cook Head of Software Development (Ph.D. Mathematics, U.T. Austin) Department of Biostatistics & Applied Mathematics, U. of Texas, M.D. Anderson Cancer Center Tony Prato Prof. of Ecological Economics University of Missouri Charles G. Sanny Prof. of Biochemistry Oklahoma State University Ctr. for Health Sciences Jairam Vanamala Postdoctoral Research Associate, Faculty of Nutrition Faculty of Nutrition, TAMU, College Station Gordon L. Wilson Ph.D. Environmental Science and Public Policy George Mason University Robin D. Zimmer Ph.D. Environmental Sciences Rutgers University A SCIENTIFIC DISSENT FROM Karl Duff Sc.D. Mechanical Engineering MIT David Jansson Sc.D. Instrumentation and Automatic Control MIT C. Steven Murphree Professor of Biology Belmont University Gary Maki Director, Ctr. for Advanced Microelectronics and Biomolecular Research University of Idaho Ronald S. Carson Ph.D. Nuclear Engineering University of Washington Joseph A. Strada Ph.D. Aeronautical Engineering Naval Postgraduate School Olaf Karthaus Associate Professor, Chemistry Chitose Institute of Science & Technology, Japan Arnold Eugene Carden Ph.D. Metallurgy University of Connecticut John B. Marshall Professor of Medicine University of Missouri School of Medicine Robert B. Sheldon Ph.D. Physics University of Maryland, College Park B. K. Nelson Research Toxicologist (retired) Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Hansik Yoon Ph.D. Fiber Science Seoul National University, Korea David Conover Ph.D. Health Physics Purdue University Arthur Chadwick Ph.D. Molecular Biology University of Miami Lennart Saari Adjunct Professor, Wildlife Biology University of Helsinki Douglas G. Frank Ph.D. Surface Electrochemistry University of Cincinnati James G. Tarrant Ph.D. Organic Chemistry University of Texas, Austin N. Ricky Byrn Ph.D. Nuclear Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Mark S. Whorton Ph.D. Aerospace Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Jeffrey E. Lander Ph.D. Biomechanics University of Oregon Curtis Hawkins Asst. Clinical Professor of Dermatology Case Western Reserve Univ. School of Medicine Mary A. Brown DVM (Veterinary Medicine) Ohio State University Thomas H. Marshall Adjunct Professor, Food Agricultural and Biological Engineering Ohio State University Charles H. McGowen Assistant Professor of Medicine Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Ronald R. Crawford Ed.D. Science Education Ball State University Matti Junnila DVM, Ph.D. Veterinary Pathology University of Helsinki Dean Svoboda Ph.D. Electrical Engineering The Ohio State University Ruth C. Miles Professor of Chemistry Malone College Mark J. Lattery Associate Professor of Physics University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh William McVaugh Associate Professor of Biology Department of Natural Sciences, Malone College Jeffrey M. Goff Associate Professor of Chemistry Malone College Jarrod W. Carter Ph.D. Bioengineering University of Washington David B. Medved Ph.D. Physics University of Pennsylvania Theodore W. Geier Ph.D. Forrest Hydrology University of Minnesota Christian Heiss Post-Doctoral Associate Complex Carbohydrate Res. Ctr., Univ. of Georgia G. Bradley Schaefer Professor of Pediatrics University of Nebraska Medical Center Bruce Simat Associate Professor of Biology Northwestern College Teresa Gonske Assistant Professor of Mathematics Northwestern College Thomas Mundie Professor of Life Science United States Military Academy at West Point Scott S. Kinnes Professor of Biology Azusa Pacific University James A. Huggins Chair, Dept. of Biology & Dir., Hammons Center for Scientific Studies Union University Jonathan A. Zderad Assistant Professor of Mathematics Northwestern College Michael R. Egnor Professor and Vice-Chairman, Dept of Neurological Surgery State University of New York at Stony Brook I. Caroline Crocker Ph.D. Immunopharmacology University of Southampton, England Donald J. Hanrahan Ph.D. Electrical Engineering University of Maryland Gintautas Jazbutis Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Paul S. Darby Ph.D. Organic Chemistry University of Georgia Changhyuk An Ph.D. Physics University of Tennessee L. Kirt Martin Professor of Biology Lubbock Christian University Gerald Schroeder Ph.D. Earth Sciences & Nuclear Physics M.I.T. Rod Rogers Ph.D. Agronomy/Plant Breeding Iowa State University David W. Herrin Research Assistant Professor in Mechanical Engineering University of Kentucky Glen Needham Associate Professor of Entomology The Ohio State University E. Byron Rogers Professor of Chemistry; Chair, Dept. of Mathematics & Physical Sciences Lubbock Christian University Vladimir L. Voeikov Vice-Chairman, Chair of Bio-organic Chemistry, Faculty of Biology Lomonosov Moscow State University Ricardo Leon Dean of School of Medicine Autonomous University of Guadalajara, Mexico Eugene C. Ashby Regents’ Professor and Distinguished Professor Emeritus Georgia Institute of Technology Douglas Axe Director Biologic Institute Joel Brind Professor of Biology Baruch College, City University of New York L. Whit Marks Emeritus Professor of Physics University of Central Oklahoma Perry Mason Professor of Mathematics and Physical Science Lubbock Christian University Timothy A. Mixon Assistant Professor of Medicine Texas A&M University Lawrence DeMejo Ph.D. Polymer Science and Engineering University of Massachusetts at Amherst Charles Garner Professor of Chemistry Baylor University Lynne Parker Associate Professor of Computer Science (Ph.D. MIT) Distributed Intelligence Lab, University of Tennessee Ivan M. Lang Ph.D. Physiology and Biophysics Temple University David J. Lawrence Ph.D. Physics Washington University, St. Louis Richard Anderson Assistant Professor of Environmental Science and Policy Duke University John G. Hoey Ph.D. Molecular and Cellular Biology City University of New York Graduate School Theodore J. Siek Ph.D. Biochemistry Oregon State University John P. Rickert Ph.D. Mathematics Vanderbilt University Christian M. Loch Ph.D. Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics University of Virginia David W. Rusch Sr. Research Scientist, Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics University of Colorado Luke Randall Ph.D. Molecular Microbiology University of London Jan Frederic Dudt Associate Professor of Biology Grove City College Glenn A. Marsch Associate Professor of Physics Grove City College Eduardo Sahagun Professor of Botany Autonomous University of Guadalajara, Mexico Mark A. Chambers Ph.D. Virology University of Cambridge (UK) Daniel Howell Ph.D. Biochemistry Virginia Tech Joel D. Hubbard Associate Professor, Dept. of Lab. Science and Primary Care Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center C. Roger Longbotham Ph.D. Statistics Florida State University Hugh L. Henry Lecturer (Ph.D. Physics, University of Virginia) Northern Kentucky University Jonathan D. Eisenback Professor of Plant Pathology Dept. of Plant Pathology and Weed Science Virginia Tech Eduardo Arroyo Professor of Forensics (Ph.D. Biology) Complutense University (Madrid, Spain) Peter Silley Ph.D. Microbial Biochemistry University of Newcastle upon Tyne E. Norbert Smith Ph.D. Zoology Texas Tech University Peter C. Iwen Professor of Pathology and Microbiology University of Nebraska Medical Center Paul Roschke A.P. and Florence Wiley Professor, Dept. of Civil Engineering Texas A&M University Luman R. Wing Associate Professor of Biology Azusa Pacific University Edward F. Blick Ph.D. Engineering Science University of Oklahoma Wesley M. 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Spencer Ph.D. Geophysics Caltech University Bert Massie Ph.D. Physics University of California, Los Angeles Mark C. Porter Ph.D. Chemical Engineering M.I.T. S. Thomas Abraham Assistant Professor of Pharmacology & Toxicology Campbell University School of Pharmacy John L. Hoffer Professor of Engineering; Texas A&M University College of Engineering; Professor of Anesthesiology Texas A&M Univ. Syst. Health Science Center Anita McElroy Ph.D. Biology University of California, San Diego Herman Branover Professor of Mechanical Engineering Ben-Gurion University (Israel) Martin Krause Research Scientist (Astronomy) University of Cambridge (UK) James G. Bentsen Ph.D. Chemistry M.I.T. Curtis Hrischuk Ph.D. Electrical Engineering Carleton University Guang-Hong Chen Assistant Professor of Medical Physics & Radiology University of Wisconsin-Madison Doug Hufstedler Ph.D. Animal Nutrition Texas A&M University Justin Long Ph.D. Chemical Engineering Iowa State University James E. Rankin Ph.D. General Relativity Yeshiva University Donald F. Smee Research Professor (Microbiology) Utah State University Colin R. Reeves Professor of Operational Research (Ph.D. Evolutionary Algorithms) Coventry University, UK Paul Ashby Ph.D. Chemistry Harvard University *= Deceased since signing statement. "We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged." (From A Scientific Dissent from Darwinism) There really isn't much substance to this statement in the first place. It would appear that all they are really saying by signing this so-called dissent is "We're good scientists. We continue to critically examine Darwinian theory because it doesn't answer all the pertinent questions to our satisfaction." Skepticism of any theory is a good thing since it drives discovery. What is bad is when organizations like the The Discovery Institute spin this as support for Intelligent Design. The fact that they feel this is necessary is simply another indicator that IDers don't have any evidence of their own; they must attack the existing theory in an attempt to invalidate it. I'm sure that the Axis of Evangelicals are eating this up just like they did before. Yes, I noticed that, too. It doesn't say "We don't believe in," it says "We are skeptical of," big difference! It also only targets Darwinian evolution. It totally ignores the more religiously paltable version: theistic evolution. I would be willing to bet that a good deal of these people would fall into this category -- esp. those in the biological fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted June 24, 2006 Report Share Posted June 24, 2006 Good points RAS. They are skeptical to the "random" mutations and selection, but it's very possible most of them are supporters of Theistic Evolution. Which means they believe the signs of evolution, mutations, selection does happen, but they are not chaotic, by chance etc, but controlled and directed by an invisible hand. Now, that means that maybe just a few of them are creationists. Secondly, the other point is that "who did not sign?". Since there's a extreme large amount of scientists out there, it should have been easy to find hundreds of thousands of scientists against evolution, if it was so obviously false. Hence, it's not obviously false, but based more on the notion that it's hard to accept. Many people want to believe, even if every argument and sign in the sky would point the other way. You tend to stick to what you feel comfortable with. If someone is not comfortable with a random universe with events happening by chance, well, then you have no other choice than to fall back on some kind of belief. And if the signs in nature points away from this belief, you rather try to explain away the facts to save the beliefs. Just human nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend AtheiStar Posted June 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 And if the signs in nature points away from this belief, you rather try to explain away the facts to save the beliefs. Just human nature. It doesn't help that the majority of our population is programmed from birth to believe in the popular creation myth. Silly beliefs easily take on reality when supported by many people -- esp. those in your immediately family. It doesn't matter that evolution is so heavily evidenced. Theism has had a massive head start in filling the mind of young people. It's amazing anyone raised in such circumstances even has the ability to grasp any scientific truth, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck22 Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I'm wrong, that list is a set-up, most of those guys have the same surname and must be related. Did you see how many surnames were Emeritus. Mr Emeritus has got a lot to answer for. Those guys on the the list just don't get it, evolution is "law and a fact". How did they get those Ph.D's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_raven23 Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I'm wrong, that list is a set-up, most of those guys have the same surname and must be related. Did you see how many surnames were Emeritus. Mr Emeritus has got a lot to answer for. Those guys on the the list just don't get it, evolution is "law and a fact". How did they get those Ph.D's Emeritus is not a surname. It is a title designation. Basically a fancy name for a retired former full time professor http://www.answers.com/topic/emeritus e·mer·i·tus (ĭ-mĕr'ĭ-təs) adj. Retired but retaining an honorary title corresponding to that held immediately before retirement: a professor emeritus. n., pl. -ti (-tī'). One who is retired but retains an honorary title corresponding to that held immediately before retirement. But even though that doesn't designate a surname....that is a damn good catch redneck22!! Those people are all retired! And they aren't required to note how long they have been retired either. Interesting. We're going to make a caution observer of you yet Redneck22! Nice job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksand Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I think he was kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_raven23 Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I think he was kidding. Either way..... those folks are still retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060621/sfw119.html?.v=24 Dissent From Darwinism 'Goes Global' as Over 600 Scientists Around the World Express Their Doubts About Darwin's Theory Wednesday June 21, 5:12 pm ET SEATTLE, June 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Over 600 doctoral scientists from all around the world have now signed a statement publicly expressing their skepticism about the contemporary theory of Darwinian evolution. ... Hmmm .... this is very surprising. I am in the scientific community in the middle of Zürich, in Switzerland. I heard nothing of this, at all. Not even a hint. Sparrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend AtheiStar Posted June 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060621/sfw119.html?.v=24 Dissent From Darwinism 'Goes Global' as Over 600 Scientists Around the World Express Their Doubts About Darwin's Theory Wednesday June 21, 5:12 pm ET SEATTLE, June 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Over 600 doctoral scientists from all around the world have now signed a statement publicly expressing their skepticism about the contemporary theory of Darwinian evolution. ... Hmmm .... this is very surprising. I am in the scientific community in the middle of Zürich, in Switzerland. I heard nothing of this, at all. Not even a hint. Sparrow I guess the propaganda machine missed you guys. lol... I'm wrong, that list is a set-up, most of those guys have the same surname and must be related. Did you see how many surnames were Emeritus. Mr Emeritus has got a lot to answer for. Those guys on the the list just don't get it, evolution is "law and a fact". How did they get those Ph.D's Evolution is a fact and a theory. It was never a law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scitsofreaky Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Evolution is a fact and a theory. It was never a law.Thank Gawd you saved that article, because my source was gone last I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend AtheiStar Posted June 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Evolution is a fact and a theory. It was never a law.Thank Gawd you saved that article, because my source was gone last I checked. I'm your new source, it would appear! Link to me all you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeday Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 And if the signs in nature points away from this belief, you rather try to explain away the facts to save the beliefs. Just human nature. It doesn't help that the majority of our population is programmed from birth to believe in the popular creation myth. Silly beliefs easily take on reality when supported by many people -- esp. those in your immediately family. It doesn't matter that evolution is so heavily evidenced. Theism has had a massive head start in filling the mind of young people. It's amazing anyone raised in such circumstances even has the ability to grasp any scientific truth, really. i am assuming you are older than 20, i think in the decade it has became more incorparated into the school system. that is what i am gathering from what i have read. so if they don't get creationism from the family, they will start out with the beleif in ToE. that is what they are taught, and most children look at teachers as a person of authority in the subject matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubergeek Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Has anyone ever tried to contact these scientists? I checked on the first 28 to see if I could find information on them, but some are hard to find because of affiliations with organizations outside the country (the Russian Academy of Natural Science, for example). Of those I've looked at, several are blatant creationists and it should surprise no one that they would sign this 'dissent.' Many have been retired with no meaningful scientific contributions in years. Also, many were signatories to the amicus curiae brief filed in the Kitzmiller case (Dover, PA) on behalf of the school board. Finally, all but two are clearly religious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck22 Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Finally, all but two are clearly religious. I'm curious to know what the two non-religious scientist would propose for the alternative to evoultion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend AtheiStar Posted July 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Finally, all but two are clearly religious. I'm curious to know what the two non-religious scientist would propose for the alternative to evoultion. Super intelligent alien life forms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scitsofreaky Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Evolution is a fact and a theory. It was never a law.Thank Gawd you saved that article, because my source was gone last I checked. I'm your new source, it would appear! Link to me all you like. Try and stop me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Finally, all but two are clearly religious. I'm curious to know what the two non-religious scientist would propose for the alternative to evoultion. Super intelligent alien life forms? Maybe Raelians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck22 Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Finally, all but two are clearly religious. I'm curious to know what the two non-religious scientist would propose for the alternative to evoultion. Super intelligent alien life forms? It's plausible. Nobel Laureate Sir Francis Crick (one of the discoverers of double helix Dna) proposed that the vast complexity and the intriciate nature of Dna would preclude it being formed naturally and suggested the only alternative was it came from outer space. That only shifts the issue to another area where it still would have had to have evolved or was created. Since Dna is not the source of the information but the carrier, I can see why Sir Francis had to resort to theorizing so far out of left field that its not funny. Especially when there is no other scientific data to support the alien theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend AtheiStar Posted July 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Finally, all but two are clearly religious. I'm curious to know what the two non-religious scientist would propose for the alternative to evoultion. Super intelligent alien life forms? Maybe Raelians? Sure, why not. I like to imagine sometimes, for shits and giggles, that all life on Earth was created by groups of competing gods/aliens. Each would enter a species or group of species and then place bets on how long it survived and televise the whole thing with some crazy technology/magic. Finally, all but two are clearly religious. I'm curious to know what the two non-religious scientist would propose for the alternative to evoultion. Super intelligent alien life forms? It's plausible. Nobel Laureate Sir Francis Crick (one of the discoverers of double helix Dna) proposed that the vast complexity and the intriciate nature of Dna would preclude it being formed naturally and suggested the only alternative was it came from outer space. That only shifts the issue to another area where it still would have had to have evolved or was created. Since Dna is not the source of the information but the carrier, I can see why Sir Francis had to resort to theorizing so far out of left field that its not funny. Especially when there is no other scientific data to support the alien theory. I was referring to hypotheses directed at the creators of all life being aliens, not panspermia. In these hypotheses aliens don't seed the Earth, they genetically engineered all life. I liked the one that says aliens took chimp dna and alien dna and spliced it to create homo sapiens! I don't believe any of this, mind you, but it's entertaining to imagine, as is all mythology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Okay. 600 Creationists against Evolution. Like, Wow, *NOT*!!! How about Pro-Evolution lists, like the Clergy Letter (10,000 names of religious leaders supporting evolution), or Project Steve (scientists supporting evolution, and have a name or similar name to Steve, Stephen etc) The Clergy Letter (10,000 names, Christian leaders) Project Steve Main page Project Steve The Steve-Meter (right now 747 names) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend AtheiStar Posted July 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Okay. 600 Creationists against Evolution. Like, Wow, *NOT*!!! How about Pro-Evolution lists, like the Clergy Letter (10,000 names of religious leaders supporting evolution), or Project Steve (scientists supporting evolution, and have a name or similar name to Steve, Stephen etc) The Clergy Letter (10,000 names, Christian leaders) Project Steve Main page Project Steve The Steve-Meter (right now 747 names) I actually mentioned Project Steve in the subtitle. I had forgotten about the Clergy Letter, though. That was big and quite amazing! One for the history books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest simplicity Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Just a note: "Hawking has concluded that black holes give off radiation"and "Penrose has concluded that it is impossible to build an intelligent computer" Hawking is a physicist, and so we can reasonably expect his opinions on black hole radiation to be informed. Penrose is a mathematician, so it is questionable whether he is well-qualified to speak on the subject of machine intelligence. This is a really bad example of a fallacious appeal to authority. Coming from a computer science background--I was majoring in it at a university with a really strong program, and I've switched to minoring in it--I'd like to point out that the nitty gritty of computing is nothing but math. In trying to figure out whether artificial intelligence is theoretically possible, a professional mathemetician is perfectly qualified to put forth an opinion, if he provides strong support. free evolution dvd/vhs ....send adress to simplicitysos@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 I actually mentioned Project Steve in the subtitle. I had forgotten about the Clergy Letter, though. That was big and quite amazing! One for the history books! I didn't think of that until now! And you did mention it in a later post. But did you provide a link? *wink wink* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 You know what irks me about these dissents is that there is probably a grain of truth to all of them. I have said this before but the theory of evolution is not, and never was intended to be, the last word on a theory of organism. Much remains to be discovered. But whatever is discovered will not overturn the theory of evolution but only add to it in my estimation. Maybe add a great deal to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend AtheiStar Posted July 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 I actually mentioned Project Steve in the subtitle. I had forgotten about the Clergy Letter, though. That was big and quite amazing! One for the history books! I didn't think of that until now! And you did mention it in a later post. But did you provide a link? *wink wink* Actually, in post 18, I did. (I had to go back and look) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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