♦ Fuego ♦ Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I occasionally make comments on stories from a local news website. Kid gets shot in a driveby, lives through it and GIVES GLORY TO JESUS!!11! So I made a comment that it's kind of a strange god that lets him get shot in the first place, and that Thor didn't help him, the doctors did. The comment didn't even last long enough to get -50 votes from the christaholics, the mods actually removed it. Mind you, there are trolls on that site that make really nasty comments that are left up for a week. I've done this on other articles where believers are gushing over Jesus for things their surgeons and medical teams did. I did it again today. I'm getting the vibe that this news site (a Fox outlet) is pushing Christianity, so I try not to miss an opportunity to point out the absurdity of the articles. I also noticed on Yahoo news that there are a LOT of people that don't want freedom in America, they want their opinions enforced on others "for their own good". I went down through 20 responses to a Muslim woman being forced to attend Christian preaching in a jail. ALL but one of them were about it being good, and that "at least they didn't behead her". And all of these comments were voted up by a hundred or so viewers. The lone anti-comment was from a military guy that had been forced to attend chapel. Makes me cringe that so many don't get the concept of freedom, or are turned off by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Christians cannot tolerate evidence that their religion is wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Furball Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Yeah that hate it when you poke holes in their illogical logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinas Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 In my experience the Christian concept of freedom means "freedom to do what we say god wants you to do". In fact, I've heard Christians come dangerously close to stating that in terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurisaz Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 To be fair, I've met disturbingly many US folks online, over the years, who seem to support unlimited freedom, without (apparently) being aware of the fact that this would mean total Social Darwinism. If you're free to do whatever you want, only the strongest will survive eventually. You don't like your neighbor's face, well, blow off his head with your shotgun because Freedom!. Somehow the thought never seems to occur to those people that they may not always be among the strongest ones and thus may have to suffer... consequences. Total freedom, as I see it, will always end in violent bloody anarchy. But yeah, as for the OP... those morontheists sure love Freedom as long as they can somehow make it mean "freedom for us to feel smugly superior by believing in the right idol". As soon as you turn the tables on them though... Freedom is always the freedom of the one who thinks differently (Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden) (Rosa Luxemburg, prominent socialist spokeswoman in the German Kaiser's empire, murdered for her opposition to the rightard military Camarilla) Those morontheists may want to think twice about their concept of freedom. Of course that presupposes that they're willing to literally think outside their book so... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheerbliss Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Yahoo attracts yahoos. It's a fitting name for the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. S. Martin Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 To be fair, I've met disturbingly many US folks online, over the years, who seem to support unlimited freedom, without (apparently) being aware of the fact that this would mean total Social Darwinism. If you're free to do whatever you want, only the strongest will survive eventually. You don't like your neighbor's face, well, blow off his head with your shotgun because Freedom!. Somehow the thought never seems to occur to those people that they may not always be among the strongest ones and thus may have to suffer... consequences. Total freedom, as I see it, will always end in violent bloody anarchy. But yeah, as for the OP... those morontheists sure love Freedom as long as they can somehow make it mean "freedom for us to feel smugly superior by believing in the right idol". As soon as you turn the tables on them though... Freedom is always the freedom of the one who thinks differently (Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden) (Rosa Luxemburg, prominent socialist spokeswoman in the German Kaiser's empire, murdered for her opposition to the rightard military Camarilla) Those morontheists may want to think twice about their concept of freedom. Of course that presupposes that they're willing to literally think outside their book so... I'm trying to visualize what reality would look like where Rosa Luxemnburg's quote is practised as a central principle. I don't know who she was outside what you say here. I would say her principle equals tolerance, yet a person who gets executed officially or unofficially for opposition to a country's official military is doing more than stating a benign opinion. Then again, maybe not. Maybe she just hit a nerve, like abortion doctors in the US who are getting killed (or have been in the recent past) for saving lives in a way that hit a nerve with a militant segment of society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurisaz Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Well back then in 1919 pretty much everyone was afraid of Them Ebil Bolsheviks, not entirely without reason. After the collapse of the Kaiser's reich there was one very moderate "opposition" in the form of the SPD party, and the more radical opposition... was basically communists. Very much like today (sickeningly so in fact), the SPD wanted to... do things differently somehow... but pleeeeeeease without getting associated in any way with Them Ebil Bolsheviks. Oh they did have some good ideas and put some of them into action but to fight T. E. B.s they cooperated with the rightards. Rosa Luxemburg and her buddy Karl Liebknecht were pretty much the most vocal spokespersons of the German communists. When some people started to think and say that the revolution that had dethroned the kaiser didn't go far enough the fear of T. E. B.s was growing steadily, and finally it was an SPD man (Gustav Noske) who all but ordered Liebknecht and Luxemburg quietly disposed of. It worked. Kind of. At the price of eventually helping... you know whom...into power in the long run. But back on topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Furball Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 In my experience the Christian concept of freedom means "freedom to do what we say god wants you to do". In fact, I've heard Christians come dangerously close to stating that in terms. Very true....very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Furball Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The way I understand it, it's god who uses humans to commit these horrible acts then expects the victim, if they survive, to give god the credit for helping them. The bible does say that god wounds then heals, why don't these dolts realize that it's god who f*ucking them up in the first place? Oh that's right-today's christian never actually reads his/her bible for themselves. No wonder these morons still attend god's worship me or I'll kill you service on sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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