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    • This is such a surreal thread. Do y’all often debate scriptures on Ex-C? It seems very weird to me,like why not nit pick some other old book?
    • There's Deuteronomy 32 (the LXX and DSS versions which are considered superior to the Masoratic):   8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance,
          when he divided mankind,
      he fixed the borders[a] of the peoples
          according to the number of the sons of God.
      9 But the Lord's portion is his people,
          Jacob his allotted heritage.        This is supposed to reference the Tower of Babel.  Which is why the Masoratic variant that references Israel is considered inferior since it becomes anachronistic.  The division is the Tower of Babel which is divided by the number of the sons of god and then YHWH gets Jacob/Israel as his portion.  It makes no sense if things are divided by the number of the sons of Israel and then YHWH takes Israel after that.  Basically all the sons of god each got a nation which makes perfect sense.             mwc  
    • There’s a great article by Valerie Tarico about getting God’s self appointed messengers out of your head and I wondered if anyone else struggles/ struggled with key phrases/ ideas that were drummed into them? These are going round and round in my head at the moment and causing me to keep questioning myself and leading to feelings of guilt, fear of judgement and thinking maybe I’m just a selfish, fallen being after all. Most of these come from my mother, some also from Christian authors and speakers. Anyone identify with this?   - Human history is the story of people trying to get things right without God and constantly failing.    - People don’t want to be obedient to God, they want to do things on their terms and they set themselves up as god of their own lives.    - God has sacrificed for us and we are just so undeserving, I’m just so in awe and so thankful (said with great emotion and on the verge of tears)   - One day every knee will be forced to bow and tongue confess that Jesus is Lord.   - People will be dismayed at Judgement Day to find out they were wrong.   - People easily find other things to fill up their lives and set up other things as gods in their lives.   - If people continue to reject God then he will give them their wish (ie Hell)   - We will all be accountable before God, he is watching and knows our every thought, word and deed.   - Our keen sense of right and wrong and fairness points to the fact that there is a god.    - Every time we ignore God’s call we harden our hearts and end up further and further away from him. 
    • No, I am not a "godly" person at all, as you put it, and I don't use that kind of terminology because I'm an atheist. I would call myself a person with empathy who doesn't believe in harming people, who strives to treat others like I would like to be treated. There can certainly be both as you put it...look out for the interests of others as well as yourself. That does not however mean I am obligated the put the interests of others before myself. The boundary lies where I start to suffer myself as a result of doing so. As for Paul, I have nothing positive to say about that misogynistic chauvinist whose doctrines determined much of my life in a "Pauline" church, so you'll have to excuse my gag reflex every time he is mentioned.
    • It won't be easy for you at first, for sure, but it will eventually get better. The "unequally-yoked" thing ruins a lot of relationships!
    • I said, you are Elohim You are all sons of El-Elyon But you will die like mere mortals you will fall like every other ruler Rise up, o Yahweh, judge the earth for all nations are your inheritance.     This passage makes no sense. Being sons of the Most High God meant that they were immortal.    It also clearly shows that Yahweh was conceived of as one of the sons of El-Elyon. Yahweh was the "son of God."      
    • WTF about this savagery is acceptable in ANY Occidental country??

      Apologist?  Apollogists?  AAaaaappppooollgist?   MICHIGAN: Sharia-compliant U.S. federal judge orders Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) charges to be dropped against Muslim doctor, declaring the law against FGM as unconstitutional       ..snipped   kFL