The American Scientific Affiliation

[TheRedneckProfessor]

3 hours ago, end3 said:

Semantics:  predictions, assumptions, notions.  Not sure there is a stipulation on testable.

 

 

Really?  Are you actually saying these words?

 

"A hypothesis is a suggested solution for an unexplained occurrence that does not fit into current accepted scientific theory. The basic idea of a hypothesis is that there is no pre-determined outcome. For a hypothesis to be termed a scientific hypothesis, it has to be something that can be supported or refuted through carefully crafted experimentation or observation. This is called falsifiability and testability, according to the Encyclopedia Britannica."  

 

https://www.livescience.com/21490-what-is-a-scientific-hypothesis-definition-of-hypothesis.html

 

You do not get to redefine words simply because it makes them fit better into your narrative, End3.  You get to use the same words, with the same meanings as the rest of us.

 

 

[Guest end3]

1 hour ago, TheRedneckProfessor said:

Really?  Are you actually saying these words?

 

"A hypothesis is a suggested solution for an unexplained occurrence that does not fit into current accepted scientific theory. The basic idea of a hypothesis is that there is no pre-determined outcome. For a hypothesis to be termed a scientific hypothesis, it has to be something that can be supported or refuted through carefully crafted experimentation or observation. This is called falsifiability and testability, according to the Encyclopedia Britannica."  

 

https://www.livescience.com/21490-what-is-a-scientific-hypothesis-definition-of-hypothesis.html

 

You do not get to redefine words simply because it makes them fit better into your narrative, End3.  You get to use the same words, with the same meanings as the rest of us.

 

 

I see your definition and raise you another:

hy·poth·e·sis

hīˈpäTHəsəs/  

noun

noun: hypothesis; plural noun: hypotheses

1. a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.

   "professional astronomers attacked him for popularizing an unconfirmed hypothesis"

   synonyms:

   theory, theorem, thesis, conjecture, supposition, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, assumption; More notion, concept, idea, possibility "his “steady state” hypothesis of the origin of the universe"

   • Philosophy

     a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth.

[TheRedneckProfessor]

Glad we cleared that up.

[bornagainathiest]

9 hours ago, end3 said:

I see your definition and raise you another:

hy·poth·e·sis

hīˈpäTHəsəs/  

noun

noun: hypothesis; plural noun: hypotheses

1. a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.

   "professional astronomers attacked him for popularizing an unconfirmed hypothesis"

   synonyms:

   theory, theorem, thesis, conjecture, supposition, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, assumption; More notion, concept, idea, possibility "his “steady state” hypothesis of the origin of the universe"

   • Philosophy

     a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth.

 

All scientific suppositions and proposed explanations are natural and not supernatural ones.

 

Physical and material ones and not spiritual ones.

 

No amount of further investigation will change that fact, End.

 

You can fill the Library of Congress buildings from floor to ceiling with science papers on epigenetics and it won't make any difference.

 

Scientists could discover that the word, 'Jesus' is encoded on every strand of human DNA and it wouldn't make any difference.

 

Astronomers could discover the word, 'Jesus' emblazoned across the skies and it still wouldn't make any difference.

 

Science can only, ever give one answer to why it might find these things... Cause unknown to science.

 

Unknown.

[Orbit]

I ran across this today and found it interesting. Some scientists-turned-theologians have started a trend called "critical realism". Can we still call them scientists?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theological_critical_realism

 

Note: I'm not endorsing the premise, but thought it interesting in light of the OP.