AgnosticBob AtheistPants Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 I was reading a rebuttal to an article in New Scientist and came across this in it. How STUPID do these people have to be to write for "EvolutionIsDead.com"? Hrdy's Fruit Fly Tall Tale One of the questions put to Hrdy was this: It looks as if there is a battle between the quality mode, in which the female insists on rearing quality offspring, and the quantity mode, in which the male insists on making many offspring. Is there a way out? Hrdy replies by citing a study on Drosophila fruit flies: The [drosophila] males are very polygynous… They increase their own reproductive success by releasing toxic molecules in their seminal fluid along with the sperm, a potion that increases the chance that their sperm will inseminate the female. But these molecules are so toxic that even though they increase the chance that the female will produce young soon, over cumulative matings the poisons significantly shorten her life. Rice and Holland's brilliant if draconian experiment was to impose monogamy: for 44 generations each male could breed with only one female, and each female with only one male. Guess what happened? After 44 generations, the sperm ceased to be toxic. Monogamous male drosophila were forced into reinventing the Talmudic injunctions "Love your wife as yourself and honour her more." The change observed in that experiment was one in the biology of the seminal fluid produced by the flies. After 44 generations, sperm began to be produced without poisons. This is not a product of "philosophy" as Hrdy maintains. The poison produced in the sperm depends on a specific chemical formula. To claim that this poison was eliminated from the sperm at the will of the male means accepting that this poison is also produced at the will of the male, which is a claim devoid of any scientific and logical foundation. Everyone knows that living things do not produce secretions in their bodies by deciding to do so. A male fly cannot know the chemistry of the poison which will increase the fertility of female flies, and it cannot produce it of its own volition. Furthermore, flies are bereft of any features such as consciousness or emotion, and behave in accordance with their instincts. They cannot, as Hrdy would have us believe, possess any philosophies. These are parts of the "just so stories" related by evolutionists. It is clear that they have no scientific and logical foundation. It's a good thing the dolt that wrote this wasn't in charge of the design of the universe. You'd think his God would guide him into "all understanding" if he's going to be spreading the "truth of God" to the masses. Hrdy's amusing comment IN NO WAY surmises that the fruitfly eliminated the toxicity of his sperm by his own will! If anything, it indicates that such "philosophical" elements are ALSO PRODUCTS OF EVOLUTION!!! What better proof for evolution do these dumbasses want anyway? The flies were forced into monogamy and as a result, the less toxic sperm became BENEFICIAL and was SELECTED to continue life! They EVOLVED!!! And this would be over a matter of a year and a half or so given the life span of the average fruit fly being a month! Just so stories??? Just so purposeful misrepresentation of facts by IDIOTIC DESIGN proponents is more like it!!! [/end rant] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTDT Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Argh! Agreed. How can brain-dead people like this exist? What was this loser's point? The anti-evolutionist affirms and cannot refute Hrdy's perfectly beautiful example of evolution in action, but brushes away this evidence because the scientist cracked a joke about monogamy? The only one making up stories was the loser who wrote that crap. I don't know how these people live with themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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