My Testimony

[Guest rodgertutt]

You can access my website through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt.

 

Because my testimony is helping so many people, I am posting it here so it will stay on your front page for awhile if that's ok with you. The many entries in my guest book that is accessible towards the bottom of the front page on my site, and the many positive emails in my email file folders, show that the content of my testimony is helping many people.

http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/

(nothing for sale on this site)

 

Or, you can access my website through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt.

 

MY TESTIMONY

 

 

The idea that God lets any creature suffer endlessly has caused me more suffering than all other problems of my life combined. By the time I had reached the mission field I had hoped to have found a satisfactory answer that would justify God allowing this to happen. I didn't find such an answer. Surrounded by thousands of people, dozens of whom were dying every day and beginning an eternity of suffering in hell was too much for me.

 

In 1966, at age 28, it caused me to have a nervous breakdown. For several weeks I was confined to my bed in a state of terror night and day. The terror was caused by the fear of what a God I could not love or respect would do to me after I died. It took me twelve years to fully recover from the breakdown. I quickly became agnostic, for the Christian gospel and the Bible were no longer any comfort to me at all. Many evangelical friends tried to help me. They meant well, but in the end they all had only words of condemnation towards me. This added more suffering to my already intense suffering.

 

Gradually I began to learn that there have been, in centuries past, and still are today, a few people in the world that see a different kind of God in the Bible. They see a God who will not let any creature suffer forever. They see a God in the Bible who will change every second of everyone's suffering into something better that it happened, including the sufferings of Satan. I learned that a correctly (literally) translated Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation. I read dozens of books, and listened to hundreds of tapes by men who believe this way and I gradually became converted to believing this way myself.

 

Since 1981, through my newspaper ads and my telephone ministry, I have sent out many hundreds of packets of literature explaining why I believe as I do. I have also sent this evidence to hundreds of pastors and Bible school teachers. None of them have told me that they are able to refute it. I have also read eight books that were supposed to refute the evidence in favor of universalism, but none of them do. Because of this evidence, my panic attacks became less frequent until twelve years after my breakdown they ceased altogether. Now nothing gives me greater pleasure than to make this evidence available to others who have suffered because of the same problem I had even though they have embraced Christ and His gospel for themselves, and I use a substantial amount of my money and time to this end.

 

Because of the enormous amount of suffering the idea of "endless hell" causes in this world, I am asking you to consider the possibility that you should stop endorsing the idea that the Bible teaches it. Or, at least, let others know that there are (and have been in centuries past) people who do not think the Bible teaches it.

 

Many of the responses from pastors and teachers range from a mild: "The majority don't agree with you so you must be wrong", to the vicious "For every week you leave your ad in the papers, God will increase the temperature of the fires of hell for you personally".

Most are somewhere in between these remarks. But none have told me they are able to refute the evidence. And, until they can, they will not be able to stop me from sharing the good news that a correctly (literally) translated Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation.

 

A website that answers all the arguments that seem to support the idea that the Bible teaches endless suffering in hell is TENTMAKER. Although forum rules prevent me from posting forum links, you can easily Google it up. The “scholar’s corner” under “research” deals with every aspect of the subject. The more than 600 page search engine at the top of this same TENTMAKER front page is also very comprehensive regarding this subject. Just type in a key word or phrase from any argument or scripture passage, and ten articles will appear that refute the eternal hell and annihilation doctrines.

 

I am also going to guide you all to the testimony of a man whose experience was almost identical to mine. Even the thought processes that took him into, through, and out of his breakdown are the same as mine. Only he is much more eloquent in telling his story than I am in telling mine. His name is Charles Slagle.

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Absolute-As...sus-Christ.html

 

Or, you can also Google up ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE

 

You can access my testimony through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt.

 

It may well be that a few members of this form or surfers will be able to benefit from the testimonies of Charles and myself.

 

May God's blessing rest with your spirit!

From Rodger Tutt in Toronto, Canada

“That God may be All in all” 1Cor.15:28

[Guest rodgertutt]

My name is Rodger Tutt. I am 68 years old. I could have avoided a horrific twelve year nervous breakdown had I known as a youth about the following information concerning what a correctly (literally, not interpretively) Bible teaches.

 

You can access my website through Google by typing in Rodger Tutt, or

My website is http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/

 

You can also access most of the following writings through Google by typing in the title.

 

BOOKS THAT SHOW THAT THE BIBLE TEACHES UNIVERSAL SALVATION, THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF WHICH CAN BE READ ONLINE

 

1. HOPE BEYOND HELL - Gerry Beauchemin (recently published)

http://www.hopebeyondhell.net/index.html

2. CHRIST TRIUMPHANT - Thomas Allin

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/ChristTriumphant.htm

3. THE BIBLE HELL - J.W. Hanson

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/TheBibleHell.html

4. THE ORIGON AND HISTORY OF THE DOCTRINE OF ENDLESS PUNISHMENT – Thomas Thayer

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/OriginandHistory.html

5. THE OUTCOME OF INFINITE GRACE – Dr. Loyal Hurley

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/infinitegrace.htm

6. JUST WHAT DO YOU MEAN "HELL" - J. Preston Eby

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-o...-world/hell.htm

7. ONE HUNDRED SCRIPTURAL PROOFS THAT JESUS CHRIST WILL SAVE ALL MANKIND - Thomas Whittemore

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/ScripturalProofs.html

8. TWENTY-FOUR SERMONS ON UNIVERSAL SALVATION – John Bovee Dods

http://www.tentmaker.org/Bovee2.htm#Top

9. THE SECOND DEATH AND THE RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS – Andrew Jukes

http://www.tentmaker.org/restitutionindex.htm

10. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY REASONS FOR BELIEVING IN THE FINAL SALVATION OF ALL MANKIND – Erasmus Manford

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/150reasons.html

11. THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS – J. Patching

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/RichManandL...s-Patching.html

12. BIBLE TRANSLATIONS THAT DO NOT TEACH ETERNAL TORMENT – Gary Amirault

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/GatesOfHell.html

13. AION – AIONIOS – John Wesley Hanson

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Aion_lim.html

14. BIBLE THREATENINGS EXPLAINED – John Wesley Hanson

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreat...sExplained.html

15. THE CASE OF JUDAS, ETCETERA

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/asw/Chapter16.html

16. THE PROBLEM OF EVIL – John Essex

AND THE ROLE OF THE ADVERSARY – James Webb

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/TheProblemofEvil.html

17. HIS ACHIEVEMENT ARE WE – James Coram

http://concordant.org/expohtml/HisAchievement/index.html

[Lycorth]

"Universal Salvation" my ass.

 

Matt 12:30

He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

 

Luke 19:27

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

 

Fair warning - try to pull the fluffy-bunny stuff here, and you'll get your butt handed to you.

 

I don't need your cult to feel good about myself and no one else does, either.

[BlueGiant]

I smell spam.

[Jella]

I don't like schpam

[LosingMyReligion]

Tutt, Tutt Rodger. Don't try and evangelize to us. We've all been through Christianity, and we know it's phoney baloney.

[R. S. Martin]

This roger guy is crazy. He posted this same stuff about a month ago. Nobody was interested so he posted it again. As though exCs would actually be interested. It's great, Roger, that you found a solution to your problem. But your solution is not my solution. Okay?

[Amethyst]

Many of us have tried liberal Christianity and realized that we were trying to believe in the intellectual equivalent of Santa Claus. You are assuming that none of us have ever been liberal Christians. You are mistaken.

[The Paineful Truth]

I think he was better off with the "nervous breakdown", and so were we.

[Japedo]

Well Rodger, seems to me you want hits on your web site. This is not a place for Xtians to "recruit" members, Most of us are victims of this Cult and having you post your BS is both laughable and disrespectful to us at best. Many here suffer from a wide variety of Panic and anxiety disorders no thanks to the cult. I could equally say failure to belive some baseless buybull bullshit that some tent dweller inked out has 'cured' my panic. I also would like to thank my doctors and all the people here on this site who helped me stop being on med's. Mind over matter and all of that, no thanks to some imaginary being.

 

You want so desperately to matter, you have yourself on a self motivated mission to get another diamond in your imaginary crown. You're not doing this for any glory of god, you're doing it for glory of self and to boost your already over flowing ego. I'm not interested in googling you or reading any ghost story's of how you arrived in believing in such beings. Nothing is based upon facts, or reason and is all assumption and emotionalism based on 'what if's', which surprise is a lot what 'panic' is based on, so see you're not cured it's just redirected.

[PaulQ]

Having been taught all about the Christian god and Jesus from a very young age in the United Church (which is about as liberal and kind-hearted as Christianity can get), it still never made any more sense than the tooth fairy. So, you've eliminated this place called Hell from your doctrine. Good for you. It doesn't take a leap of faith to realize that not only does hell not exist, neither does any god. Rational thought will lead one to that conclusion. Don't you think it's about time you stopped wasting your time with these scriptures written by men who didn't have the least bit of knowledge of how the world actually works? Don't you see that they invented this god because they lacked the discipline of science? Haven't you realized that the notion of hell and a vengeful god was created to control the behaviour of the masses for the benefit of the rich and powerful? Why must you give these ancient myths any credibility at all, considering that there hasn't been evidence of a god in a very long time?

[♦ nivek ♦]

Mr. Tutt...

 

You WILL restrict your "fishing expeditions" to this thread, this Forum, period.

 

I am putting your posts on Mod Preview until you learn what and why Ex-Christian dot net exists.

 

This space on the Web is not your shooting gallery for for "unsaved fish".

 

I will nuke EVERY post you make outside the Lions Den area. After two more posts outside here, your lease on use of ExC expires. Stay here, I'll consider, post by post if I want your meaningless sectarian garbage strewn across the Bosses floors.

 

kFL

 

[R. S. Martin]

Thanks Nivik. It's therapeutic to unleash at fundies once in a while but this guy goes beyond arguing and ridicule and simple evangelism. His posts are like toxic smoke pouring from old-fashioned factory chimneys 24/7. I looked at the rules and I see that:

 

Even aggressive evangelism will be tolerated in this section of the forum.

 

What I find especially offensive is that he reposts the same stuff all the time, as though one stinking mess were not enough. In real life we have to tolerate the garbage in the name of religious freedom. But here we get to insert a word once in a while. Glad you posted a warning and have him on probation and under serveilance. Way to go Nivik!

 

BTW, I like the effect of your avatar on this post.