Holy Porn Star!

[garrisonjj]

Ever notice that as a porn star ages and runs into competition with younger women that she becums FUCKIN saved and finds the lard! Like Crissy Moran.

Also, the lifer on death row turns to christ! Jeezus fuckin christ save me.

Why is this? Thanks

[QuinnTheEskimo]

Just to throw it out there (i'm sure i'll get bashed,) maybe people realize that they actually need God, and that their own lives are nothing without Him. Let's look to the scripture.

 

Matthew 19

23Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

 

Jesus is fairly clear, those who are well off in the world and have all these things that they desire usually look to themselves for everything. For those who already have nothing of themselves, it is much easier to see their need for Jesus.

[Asimov]

Jesus is fairly clear, those who are well off in the world and have all these things that they desire usually look to themselves for everything. For those who already have nothing of themselves, it is much easier to see their need for Jesus.

 

In other words, people who feel like they are nothing, need something to make themselves feel better. Thus they turn to any religion/drugs/alcohol..etc.

[narcissist]

In the case of the porn star, to keep the money rolling in.

 

What a catch for the churches: "Famous pornstar find's christ". Then come the best-selling books and the national speaking tours so that all the sexually frustrated christian men can finally see the sex kitten they have fapped off to with the pictures well hidden away in secret files on the computer in "dad's study".

[mwc]

Just to throw it out there (i'm sure i'll get bashed,) maybe people realize that they actually need God, and that their own lives are nothing without Him. Let's look to the scripture.

 

Matthew 19

23Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

 

Jesus is fairly clear, those who are well off in the world and have all these things that they desire usually look to themselves for everything. For those who already have nothing of themselves, it is much easier to see their need for Jesus.

And this is exactly why the early church wanted rich people to give them money but didn't really expect them to change their lives (they encouraged it, sure, but it was the money that mattered). The poor (in the church) would, in essence, be their partners. The rich would fund the poor and the poor would proxy them into the resurrection.

 

Let me rephrase this. IT WAS A RACKET. A SCAM. IT STILL IS!

 

Asimov hit the nail on the head in answer to the original question (as you completely missed the point with your response). Desparation and/or insecurity applies to both the aging porn starlet and the death row inmate far more than the idea of being rich and self-reliant.

 

mwc

[Shaman]

They say that the God of the new testament is a loving god. One that is so merciful that he is willing to wait for eternity for his lost sheep to return to him.

 

Results may varies as we are individuals with different genetic makeups. Some like what is being stated above, Porn stars, death row immates will be one with God at an earlier rate so that the living can see the proof as such possibility. Most will repent after they die but for them, the living will not testify their doings. Eventually, all will return to him when they realized the truth behind the truth...

 

am I on a row with my make believe theory to make you exchritian happy?

[LosingMyReligion]

Its "Prison Christian" syndrome. Whenever someone can no longer do what they love they turn to Christianity. She's an aging ho who can't make the money that she used to. So what better way to garner more wages than to proselytize to the ignorant masses about how she used her body as Satan's playground? She will get a book deal; an appearance on TBN(or Oprah if she's lucky); and preach at every mega church around the country. Lastly, now that her past in porn is her platform she doesn't have to worry about anyone watching her videos.

Sorry, there is no sincerity. Christian's actions are motivated by greed, unless they happen to be a TRUE christian. Then it all comes down to being a clueless pawn.

 

That is why I want to become a pastor because I could get PAID.

[mwc]

And how popular was she anyway? She's just one out of how many? And if the xian thing doesn't work out maybe the return to porn video will get her how much more money? It's funny to watch them fuck while wearing those crucifixes anyway. Jesus fuckers (what a great name for a porno...someone shoot that...although maybe a gay porno in which case it's not my thing but the 12 on 1 last supper, complete with passover lamb, in highdef ).

 

The girl on the stupid morning news show (I don't recall which one...Good Day LA sounds right) rejoined the flock awhile back and she won't fucking shut up about it. She's at least calming down a bit but before she read a story the other day she says something like "I don't know if this is really appropriate for a good christian to say." Barf. Do your job and shut up. She must have mentioned her "faith" 10 times while I watched during that hour or so...and like I said, this is less than when I had watched a few months back. How well would it go over if she was pagan or Satanist dropping comments like that? "Well, this is exactly the type of story a good Satan worshipper loves to repeat." ten times an hour. The phones wouldn't stop ringing I bet.

 

mwc

[garrisonjj]

And how popular was she anyway? She's just one out of how many? And if the xian thing doesn't work out maybe the

 

JEEEEEEEEZUSFUCKIN CHRIST! thats right. These girls wear the religious crosses while being fucked and the cum drips from their mouth onto it. I guess its a turn on for some, or just another piece of jewelry for others. I agree. Whatever scam, either finding fuckin jesus or being a born again porn star with values,,the eternal motivation is money.

[Shaman]

you know I hate because I can't be like her.

 

At least she done something right and that is to get a taste of God before she die....I think her story can relate to my own story as well... I got a good taste of the Lord for a good comparison and contrast deal. At least now, when she goes.."OH GOD" in them videhoes, I'll think she means it...Praise the Lord...

[Lycorth]

Honestly, she's the only porn star to go to Xianity that I can recall. I know there may be one or two more, but there are dozens of porn stars, many who are still active in the business after many years. They don't run to Xianity because success helps them; failure is great for ruining one's self-esteem, and like Asimov said, it's at that point that people turn to things to make them feel better, like drugs or drinking or religion.

 

People like Crissy Moran are to be pitied because of making such a bad choice, but they are not the standard, but the exception.

[Shaman]

I Think this topic would be better if them born again christian porn stars just go straight to he top and run for pastor, rev, priest, ect. ect..

 

until then, be happy to see some wolves in sheep discuise.

[currentchristian]

Just to throw it out there (i'm sure i'll get bashed,) maybe people realize that they actually need God, and that their own lives are nothing without Him. Let's look to the scripture.

 

Matthew 19

23Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

 

Jesus is fairly clear, those who are well off in the world and have all these things that they desire usually look to themselves for everything. For those who already have nothing of themselves, it is much easier to see their need for Jesus.

And this is exactly why the early church wanted rich people to give them money but didn't really expect them to change their lives (they encouraged it, sure, but it was the money that mattered). The poor (in the church) would, in essence, be their partners. The rich would fund the poor and the poor would proxy them into the resurrection.

 

Let me rephrase this. IT WAS A RACKET. A SCAM. IT STILL IS!

 

Asimov hit the nail on the head in answer to the original question (as you completely missed the point with your response). Desparation and/or insecurity applies to both the aging porn starlet and the death row inmate far more than the idea of being rich and self-reliant.

 

mwc

 

Christianity can be a racket and a scam. No argument here. But so can politics and sports and corporate America and everything else under the sun. Christianity is not the "great satan" in the world. It can be a beautiful pathway to a profoundly inspiring life. Seems to me.

 

-CC in MA

[Kurari]

Betty Page turned very devoted Catholic and devoted her life to Christ after her prints during the 50's. She grew up poor and wanted to be an actress, but a string of bad luck and missed chances had her doing cheesecake pictures.

 

Porn stars aren't usually the most stable of people to begin with (like Death Row'ers). So it becomes like Asimov said.

 

Though I think Varokhar is mostly right...I don't know of many who turn to Christ...they normally just turn to coke.

[Poonis]

Just to throw it out there (i'm sure i'll get bashed,) maybe people realize that they actually need God, and that their own lives are nothing without Him. Let's look to the scripture.

 

Desperation from failure in the real world yields belief in the imaginary. The greater the desperation, the greater the belief.

 

SAVE MEH JEEZUS!

[currentchristian]

Just to throw it out there (i'm sure i'll get bashed,) maybe people realize that they actually need God, and that their own lives are nothing without Him. Let's look to the scripture.

 

Desperation from failure in the real world yields belief in the imaginary. The greater the desperation, the greater the belief.

 

SAVE MEH JEEZUS!

 

No doubt that desperation often leads one to look upward (whether or not upward is imaginary). In my case, it's usually been the opposite story, however. When I'm down and out I'm not that interested in God. It's when all is going well and I feel on top of the world that I'm most interested in interacting with God. Seems to me that many turn to God when all is rosey and peachy.

 

-CC in MA

[Ramen666]

Current Christian is back! Man you have been gone a while I remember those arguments we had welcome back to club. I thought you just left like all the other Christians generally do. Something is keeping you comming back maybe knowlege?

[mwc]

Christianity can be a racket and a scam. No argument here. But so can politics and sports and corporate America and everything else under the sun. Christianity is not the "great satan" in the world. It can be a beautiful pathway to a profoundly inspiring life. Seems to me.

 

Hey, you're back. I thought you disappeared for good.

 

I'm sticking with my original answer. The original church (not necessarily the religion) was basically a money machine. Look at the last chapter of I Cor. (I think it is) where Paul does an "oh, and by the way...about the money...I can't come by but I'm going to send someone for it." Scam. He's "spreading the wealth" right into his own pocket.

 

As for equivocating corruption of the church and every other organization, if that's what you want to do then by all means do it. Religion can lead some to a profoundly inspiring life but then there's folks like our new friend Assy (have you met Assy over in the Lion's Den yet?).

 

mwc

[garrisonjj]

In the case of the porn star, to keep the money rolling in.

 

What a catch for the churches: "

 

Exactly! Then she'll lose christ again after her bor again life fades. Only this time she'' be sucking christ on her knees thus falling from her born again status. Alas.

[currentchristian]

Christianity can be a racket and a scam. No argument here. But so can politics and sports and corporate America and everything else under the sun. Christianity is not the "great satan" in the world. It can be a beautiful pathway to a profoundly inspiring life. Seems to me.

 

Hey, you're back. I thought you disappeared for good.

 

I'm sticking with my original answer. The original church (not necessarily the religion) was basically a money machine. Look at the last chapter of I Cor. (I think it is) where Paul does an "oh, and by the way...about the money...I can't come by but I'm going to send someone for it." Scam. He's "spreading the wealth" right into his own pocket.

 

As for equivocating corruption of the church and every other organization, if that's what you want to do then by all means do it. Religion can lead some to a profoundly inspiring life but then there's folks like our new friend Assy (have you met Assy over in the Lion's Den yet?).

 

mwc

 

Hey mwc! I was away for three weeks with very limited Internet access. Checked e-mail and cnn.com. Not much else.

 

The love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, no doubt. But methinks Paul was collecting money for the poor saints in Jerusalem, wasn't he? Paul was a tentmaker, 'member?, so that no one could accuse him of what you just did!!

 

Don't know Assy. I'll look into him/her.

 

Good to hear from you.

 

-CC in MA

[currentchristian]

Current Christian is back! Man you have been gone a while I remember those arguments we had welcome back to club. I thought you just left like all the other Christians generally do. Something is keeping you comming back maybe knowlege?

 

I keep coming back because I like hanging out with smart people who have interesting ideas. (Not everyone on here is smart, of course, and some of the ideas are bizarre and some of the language is...well...anyway... )

 

-CC in MA

[narcissist]

Hey, does this mean she's only going to do it in the pooper from now on until she's married?

 

(Hmm, christian porn... There's a christian version of everything else, it's only a matter of time...)

[mwc]

Hey mwc! I was away for three weeks with very limited Internet access. Checked e-mail and cnn.com. Not much else.

Hope you had a nice time.

 

The love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, no doubt. But methinks Paul was collecting money for the poor saints in Jerusalem, wasn't he? Paul was a tentmaker, 'member?, so that no one could accuse him of what you just did!!

Paul had a way of trying to be a certain way but was, in reality, another. Yes, Paul was two faced is the accusation I am making. Also, many a traveling preacher/scam artist has a trade to look respectable, and, it's not a bad idea for when times are tough. But Paul shows little respect for Jerusalem and the folks at the Corinthian church had their own problems to deal with (the mandate to take care of orphans and widows is strong in the early church) so why send money to Paul for anything? They had no obligation to send money to Jerusalem via Paul.

 

Lets look at it through the window of what we know about modern traveling preachers though. Setup a church somewhere. Setup a need in a distant location. Tell the church that they need to give money to the needy at that distant location. Inspire said church then get called away to start more churches. Send lackey's to deliver period inspiration message to church and, while they're there, collect money for "good" cause. Remind church you're thinking of them and that you wish to visit as soon as possible. Repeat in as many cities as possible. Disappear somewhere into legend with buckets of cash for the "needy" or get killed over same.

 

There's no reason to accept Paul is some good guy that had some magical transformation. History shows the transformation that happens most often is he "wanted in." After all he could be a tentmaker/hit-man or reformed preacher man. Lets ask people like Jimmy Swaggart and his ilk what a good old tent revival can pull in shall we?

 

Don't know Assy. I'll look into him/her.

Too late. Assy got canned. You can read what's left or go to Google and look him up (he's been around).

 

Good to hear from you.

You too.

 

mwc

[currentchristian]

Hey mwc! I was away for three weeks with very limited Internet access. Checked e-mail and cnn.com. Not much else.

Hope you had a nice time.

 

The love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, no doubt. But methinks Paul was collecting money for the poor saints in Jerusalem, wasn't he? Paul was a tentmaker, 'member?, so that no one could accuse him of what you just did!!

Paul had a way of trying to be a certain way but was, in reality, another. Yes, Paul was two faced is the accusation I am making. Also, many a traveling preacher/scam artist has a trade to look respectable, and, it's not a bad idea for when times are tough. But Paul shows little respect for Jerusalem and the folks at the Corinthian church had their own problems to deal with (the mandate to take care of orphans and widows is strong in the early church) so why send money to Paul for anything? They had no obligation to send money to Jerusalem via Paul.

 

Lets look at it through the window of what we know about modern traveling preachers though. Setup a church somewhere. Setup a need in a distant location. Tell the church that they need to give money to the needy at that distant location. Inspire said church then get called away to start more churches. Send lackey's to deliver period inspiration message to church and, while they're there, collect money for "good" cause. Remind church you're thinking of them and that you wish to visit as soon as possible. Repeat in as many cities as possible. Disappear somewhere into legend with buckets of cash for the "needy" or get killed over same.

 

There's no reason to accept Paul is some good guy that had some magical transformation. History shows the transformation that happens most often is he "wanted in." After all he could be a tentmaker/hit-man or reformed preacher man. Lets ask people like Jimmy Swaggart and his ilk what a good old tent revival can pull in shall we?

 

Don't know Assy. I'll look into him/her.

Too late. Assy got canned. You can read what's left or go to Google and look him up (he's been around).

 

Good to hear from you.

You too.

 

mwc

 

Well, mwc, I am suspicious of preachers of all kinds. As well as movie stars and sports heroes and CEO's and psychics and....etc.

 

But I do have faith in my friend Paul. He could be arrogant and bossy and sexist. But he wasn't a thief -- at least there is absolutely no evidence to support such a view.

 

-CC in MA

[mwc]

Well, mwc, I am suspicious of preachers of all kinds. As well as movie stars and sports heroes and CEO's and psychics and....etc.

 

But I do have faith in my friend Paul. He could be arrogant and bossy and sexist. But he wasn't a thief -- at least there is absolutely no evidence to support such a view.

Why be suspicious of your contemporaries but cut Paul, someone you don't even know or could possibly know, slack? Is it because the folks today have shown themselves to be dishonest? Paul admittedly behaved less than honorably in all situations. Paul's "end" is suspicious (there are more than one version). So why all the trust?

 

Because it his letters got bound up in a single tome hundreds of years after they were written? That's precious little to base trust on.

 

So, at the end of I Cor. he wants money for "saints." In the middle of II Cor. he starts the ass kissing machine so that by chapter 11 he's in full apology mode. If you've never known a con-man then go find one and have a chat because Paul's in fine form. He butters them up telling them how he's told others about them. He tells them how he took money from other churches just so he wouldn't have to take money from them. He tells them how other traveling preaches did take their money and he didn't so he's different (but at the same time he's asking for their money).

 

This is a traveling con game. But he's just a poor tent maker cum preacher man. Yeah right. The bible itself, including Paul in these letters, tells of lying Apostles that scam money. Pot, I'd like you to meet Kettle. He's just upset that someone's cutting in on his action...just like the mafia. I wouldn't be surprised if he was put to death for scamming everyone. Many of the cities he supposedly visited were fairly wealthy after all.

 

Is this a judgment on whether or not he actually believes the story he's selling at the same time? Nope. He could believe every last word but that doesn't change the fact that he wants money for his good news.

 

mwc