vicwestlad Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 So I thought I'd run this by you. I belong to a Christian forum and have done for a while. A topic came up about the Bible containing "graphic eroticism". I wanted to prove a point by linking here. I was severly reprimanded and told I may be banned. However, there's nothing in that link that isnt' in the Bible anyway, so is it me or them? Was I wrong in posting a link with that kind of material even though it's straight from the Bible? Or, do they need to come to terms with what's in theiry own book? I may have been quite wrong on this so I just wanted some feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 For what it's worth, it doesn't strike me that you did anything wrong. I would say that your suspicion that they are simply prudes is probably accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicwestlad Posted June 21, 2007 Author Share Posted June 21, 2007 For what it's worth, it doesn't strike me that you did anything wrong. I would say that your suspicion that they are simply prudes is probably accurate. Thanks Legion. I'm happy if people want to tell me I was wrong, but I appreciate the positive feedback too. I feel better already. For some reason, you reminded about Bill Maher's comments about Republicans being terrible at sex, and not enjoying it. Not that all Christians are Republicans, but you'd get the sense that most are from that forum. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. S. Martin Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 On this forum I've read so many crazy reasons why people got kicked off Christian websites, that this does not surprise me. You're challenging their world view, their beliefs. For some reason, they take offense at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Jeff Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 You did nothing wrong. Christians don't like to be reminded of the unpleasant stuff that is in their allegedly "inerrant and infallible" straight-from-God holy book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soor Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 The graphics were hillarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurisaz Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 You're challenging their world view, their personal beliefs (interpretations). For some reason, they take offense at that. (Colored text added by me) That's it exactly. They don't really take offense for your pointing out something about da babble. They feel hurt because your comment doesn't jive with what they think da babble is and says. Like every Good Morontheist they never really cared to examine the entire text, and so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurisaz Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Christians don't like to be reminded of the unpleasant stuff that is in their allegedly "inerrant and infallible" straight-from-God holy book. ...or of any other shade of reality for that matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlerman Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 So I thought I'd run this by you. I belong to a Christian forum and have done for a while. A topic came up about the Bible containing "graphic eroticism". I wanted to prove a point by linking here. I was severly reprimanded and told I may be banned. However, there's nothing in that link that isnt' in the Bible anyway, so is it me or them? Was I wrong in posting a link with that kind of material even though it's straight from the Bible? Or, do they need to come to terms with what's in theiry own book? I may have been quite wrong on this so I just wanted some feedback. You should tell them you should have warned that the link would take them to a site of graphic content. Follow this up with a promise to always offer the same warning when posting a link to or quoting directly from the Bible itself. For example: "Warning, the following contains graphic adult content of a sexual or violent nature and should not be viewed by young children or those with sensitive stomachs." Then go ahead and quote from the book of Joshua or any other book that talks about God's order to slaughter thousands of humans including women, children, dogs, and trees; or commandments to dash babies on sharp rocks and spill their guts on the ground. I think it's only responsible to warn people about what the Holy Bible contains. It might offend them otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramen666 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 This is true happend with my friend yesterday ( The Christian one) Please note he does not know I am an atheist I will let him figure that out on his own but I like toying with him because he is a Christian and it is just plain fun to do. We were talking about politics and slavery and shit like that and him being a Christian. I said " You know what in the Bible slavery is ok" He said " Well it usually is when someone owes debt..." I said " Whatever but that is not the case in the Bible it even commands beat your slaves, also mis treatment of women and whatnot. He said " No that is not true...it can't...." Then I said " Give me your Bible let me show just the tip of the iceburg of how powerhungry and bitchy God is. (He handed me one of his Bibles) I went to Levitcus for this example. I read him these verses Kill Homosexuals "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB) Kill Fortunetellers A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB) Death for Adultery If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT) Death for Fornication A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB) Death for Cursing Parents All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT) How I approached him I just kept reading these verses going on and on and he went in a corner basically. What I did was show him the Bye Bull is not all about love and shit. I said " I told you last year that the Bible is full of this believe me now and this is just the tip of the iceberg there is hundreds more like this." Then ironically he asked me to leave his house ( He lives down the street from me). What I learned trap the Christian, use there own ammo against them and they say God is loving well lets not take my word for it or some atheist for it, lets look what your Buy Bell says about it. Christians are shocked when you use there vary own tool against them it is not what da pastor says. ATHEIST/EX-CHRISTIAN- 1 CHRISTIAN-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BradtheImpaler Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 So I thought I'd run this by you. I belong to a Christian forum and have done for a while. A topic came up about the Bible containing "graphic eroticism". I wanted to prove a point by linking here. I was severly reprimanded and told I may be banned. However, there's nothing in that link that isnt' in the Bible anyway, so is it me or them? Was I wrong in posting a link with that kind of material even though it's straight from the Bible? Or, do they need to come to terms with what's in theiry own book? I may have been quite wrong on this so I just wanted some feedback. "If masturbation is a crime, I would be on Death Row" (Gilbert Gottfried) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godlessgrrl Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Y'know, I'd love to illustrate an erotic graphic novel version of the Song of Solomon. Bible porn, baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramen666 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Y'know, I'd love to illustrate an erotic graphic novel version of the Song of Solomon. Bible porn, baby! How bout a movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artur Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Of course they are prudes. Most Christians haven't even read the whole Bible from front to back. They just read the bits they are spoonfed in church like good little sheeple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicwestlad Posted June 26, 2007 Author Share Posted June 26, 2007 Wow...I'd been away for the weekend and came back to this. Thanks so much for the feedback. I honestly feel a lot better. Sometimes those Christian forums can feel pretty lonely and some of people on there are so whacko, you feel like you're losing your sanity. Do any of you get this: I bring up atrocities committed by Yahweh and they just dismiss the whole thing by saying "argument from outrage fallacy". I really appreciate the thoughful comments. Like someone mentionsed the Song of Soloman. And this book is given out to children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurisaz Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Do any of you get this: [...] Does anyone not?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texmex2003 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 What no pictures of Judah boinking Tamar when he thought she was a prostitute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicwestlad Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 What no pictures of Judah boinking Tamar when he thought she was a prostitute? No, but there's one of Lot boinking his daughters: link . Just as well I didn't link to that one on the Christian forum. Mind you, that one has a pretty interesting point at the end. After all, if not for propaganda reasons, why on earth did the ancient Jewish story tellers tell the story of Lot and his daughters? Just to shock people? Doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceadugenga Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 So I thought I'd run this by you. I belong to a Christian forum and have done for a while. A topic came up about the Bible containing "graphic eroticism". I wanted to prove a point by linking here. I was severly reprimanded and told I may be banned. However, there's nothing in that link that isnt' in the Bible anyway, so is it me or them? Was I wrong in posting a link with that kind of material even though it's straight from the Bible? Or, do they need to come to terms with what's in theiry own book? I may have been quite wrong on this so I just wanted some feedback. It's them, not you - the Bible has some pretty erotic parts alright... heck the priest I play hockey with did his disertation on the eroticism of the Song of Songs - and the new Pope has explicitly stated the erotic love and the selfless love in it illustrates the two halves of true love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuroikaze Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 I bring up atrocities committed by Yahweh and they just dismiss the whole thing by saying "argument from outrage fallacy". This isn't a real fallacy though, it is just part of a larger fallacy called "appeal to emotion." The whole point of this fallacy is that one uses emotions to obscure or hide facts that pertinent to the issue (emotion in an argument is fine so long as it isn't used to obscure the facts) Unless they can point out the facts you obscured then this whole line of thinking is sophistry, try throwing that back at them when they pull this one you next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycorth Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 You did nothing wrong. Christians don't like to be reminded of the unpleasant stuff that is in their allegedly "inerrant and infallible" straight-from-God holy book. That is the unvarnished truth. Xians believe in absolutes and dogmatism, so any challenge to their dogma is viewed as propaganda from the enemy and not "of Gawd" It's why I don't bother to directly confront them much. They'll always believe you're of the devil and anything you say is an evil lie, so you're automatically ignored before you even finish your first sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicwestlad Posted July 5, 2007 Author Share Posted July 5, 2007 Unless they can point out the facts you obscured then this whole line of thinking is sophistry, try throwing that back at them when they pull this one you next time. Absolutely Kuroikaze. It's a great point. One of the problems is they don't even understand the argument from emotion fallacy. Thanks for reminding me that I'm not going crazy and that I'm the one who understands the fallacy and they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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