Oldjew Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Just got this on the news; a Christian woman in California claims God told her to write messages all over her houses and now the authorities are going after her for a sign ordinance. She had even written all over her car all sorts of things whereas God told her to do so. Just another delusion from God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelli Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldjew Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 I don't know about a link as I saw it on TV last night and not on the net but if you were to go to dogpile and type in "woman in California writes religious slogans all over her house" I am sure dogpile would find you a link. The pictures it showed on TV of her house was ridiculous as every inch of her house including the roof had slogans on it about the bad neighbors and the US government. The woman had all sorts of pins stuck through her lips, nose, ears and face and she looked insane is why I posted she went berserk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbobrob Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Here's a ticket for breaking the sign ordinance. Have a nice day, crazy lady. We have no way to deal with the mentally ill, but we care deeply about the size and amount of words written on people's private property. Makes no sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japedo Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Just got this on the news; a Christian woman in California claims God told her to write messages all over her houses and now the authorities are going after her for a sign ordinance. She had even written all over her car all sorts of things whereas God told her to do so. Just another delusion from God. Here's a link LiveLeak.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thackerie Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Isn't there some type of mental illness characterized by compulsive writing (whether in journals or on walls or whatever)? I've heard of this but can't remember the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoomonkey Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 We have no way to deal with the mentally ill, but we care deeply about the size and amount of words written on people's private property. Makes no sense at all. Wonderfully put! Spoomonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. S. Martin Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 "Help worse crime ever: evil + out of mind: from Bush to neighbors using witchcraft + technology against people not belong to their religious group:" Apparently that is one of the things she wrote. Any idea what it means? Sounds to me like she is telling everybody that she is out of her mind and needs help. Reminds me again of my grandmother when she had Alzheimers so bad. Much of what she said did not make sense but you could tell when she wanted or needed something. You'd have to intuit by tone of voice or choice of words and meaning, which were not necessarily the conventional way of saying the things she wanted. For example, sometimes she talked really dirty. There was no way to get her onto another track of thought. So we'd take her to the bathroom and when she got back to her room the dirty talk was gone. In the case of my grandmother, it was necessary to use word association. When I do that for this woman, I see "help" and "out of mind." I also see a lot of other words. These other words might be related to fears and worries that aggravate her condition. Religion, technology, Bush, witch craft. It seems she is suspicious of neighbours using witch craft. I don't know how it all fits into her reality. My guess is that there is insufficient evidence to have her hospitalized against her will at this point. If the law can step in and force her into submission with this crazy fine about signs, perhaps someone can diagnose her need for medical help. It seems a really backward way to go at it but there is only so much one can do for adults who do not ask for help, and who have not been proven to be of unsound mind. It really is a crazy world out there--sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. S. Martin Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 against people not belong to their religious group This part raises a question for me. Is she really a Christian? Or is she one of us? Does she see discrimination against people not belonging to a specific religious group? Somehow, that part resonates with things I read on here against Christians who won't acknowledge people who don't go to their special god-ordained True Church. I realize this is only one of many things she wrote so I don't have too much context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldjew Posted September 1, 2007 Author Share Posted September 1, 2007 It seems that owning a house you are not the master of your own castle. How is it that one can not paint their house how the want? How is that hurting some one else except making property values go down? In fact if property values go down in her neighborhood taxes will go down and people will have more money to spend. I think she maybe helping the economy in her neck of the woods. I heard of a case years ago where they even made a movie about it "A perfect Mind" I think the movie was called whereas the main character wrote all over their walls at the college where this man was going to school and he had some sort of mental illness and it was a true story. I saw the movie and this case of this Hispanic woman seems the same kind of mental illness. If I lived next door to her I would look at it as modern art and not complain unless I was trying to sell my house in which case who would buy it next door to her? But if I were not trying to sell my house I would not care but think it was a strange kind of art and let it go at that as it would not bother me. We have this money laundry about a mile from where I live that has loud reflective tape designs all over his building and clothes lines out front full of tie dye sheets and tee shirts and the front of the building has all sorts of strange things glued on the building and he dressed very odd. People around here do not seem bothered by it other than they know he is the town's main drug supplier bringing the drugs from El Paso Texas to parts of New Mexico and dropping them off to the dealers and he uses his tie dye business as a money laundry and that too does not bother any body so why is this California town so upset with this woman writing all over her house? Is that any worse than the man with the tie dye money laundry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. S. Martin Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Quite a few years ago, one day I came home from work exhausted to find my neighbour painting pictures on the barn I was renting. It was old tin siding but I had no rest till I had it covered over with a piece of tin. I think she was wrong in painting smilies on my buildings. I take much pleasure in viewing the scene out my window. I cannot afford to go one vacations and trips but I can afford to spend hours looking at the scene out my window. And if neighbours deface buildings they spoil my view. I think we have certain rights as citizens. If that tie-dying guy was in the neighbourhood before others moved in, then they moved in with the knowledge that this was part of the scenery. If the people in that California town thought they were living in a better part of town and someone defaced a house, their scenery was spoiled. It is uncomfortable in the extreme, not to mention the shock. I don't think you can just pick up a neighbourhood in one part of the country and compare it to another city in another part of the world and say "what's good for the goose is good for the gander." We're not all the same. We have a right to make certain choices in life. If a woman goes out of her mind, she needs help--not the right to deface her houses. If she feels a need to impose her religion, there are acceptable ways to do that, but she needs to respect that other people have a right to freedom from religion. She can write for her church newsletter. Or put up a free website. Or start her own church. But she can't just paint her house crazy because that takes away the rights of the neighbours--it changes the quality of their neighbourhood. What's there to keep folks from painting porn on their houses, for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldjew Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share Posted September 2, 2007 Before the tie dye guy moved in it had been a grocery store in a quiet neighborhood but after he moved in the neighborhood ran down hill. When I first moved here there had been a hippy bus and trailer abandoned across the road which drew rats and for a while used as a gang club house to sell drugs out of which caused crime to move into my neighborhood. It took years to get rid of them by going to city hall over and over again until finally some one listened only after I threatened to go to the governor about it. I can see the point but at the same time why buy property if you can not do what you want with it as long as it does not bring physical harm to your property like attracting rats or crime? How is writing all over your house going to attract vermin to you or bring in criminals? Oh it may make the value of your property to go down, but the view? Was her house a beautiful view before she wrote all over it? None of my neighbor's home would I consider beautiful to look at and in fact I would much prefer I had no neighbors and lived miles out in the country could I afford to do so. But to each his own when it comes to minding your neighbor's business. My biggest complaint is living next door to a man whose female Chihuahua barks constantly day and night year around with no let up which is driving me crazy and if I complain about it he throws trash in my yard or threatens me with violence. Years ago I took him to court over it and his family trashed my yard when ever I left home and I was constantly threatened with violence. So sometimes it does not pay to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Harley Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Then nailing the doors shut and setting the house on fire is the only way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. S. Martin Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 why buy property I don't know. I don't own property and never will. I live in a few rooms in someone's basement and have never been happier. I am not sure what the point is supposed to be of this thread. You seemed to be asking why anyone would have a problem with neighbours painting slogans on their houses. I answered that question as well as I can. Others have agreed with you that one should be allowed to do with one's own property what one wants to. I get the impression you are not satisfied with any of this. Maybe you can clarify exactly what it is you are asking? BTW, I have no problems if you want to paint slogans on your house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldjew Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'm just stating my opinion and you are stating yours. I believe if I mind my own business and leave my neighbors alone this will be a better world where people can get along with each other. The theist like to stick their nose in everybody else's business when no one is bothering them and this leads to oppression and bigotry. I do not try to stir the pot but prefer to let it boil down on its own. But everyone does not believe that and that is why there are many opinions and it there were not it would certainly be a very boring world if everyone agreed on the same thing. I am very sorry if you take my remarks as an offense because that was not my intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. S. Martin Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'm just stating my opinion and you are stating yours. I believe if I mind my own business and leave my neighbors alone this will be a better world where people can get along with each other. Great! Sounds like we're on the same page. Thanks for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirangel Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Isn't there some type of mental illness characterized by compulsive writing (whether in journals or on walls or whatever)? I've heard of this but can't remember the term. I don't know, it made me think of A Beautiful Mind with Russell Crow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twincats Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 At least she's limiting her tagging to her own property, so it would seem that there's *someone* home "upstairs." I don't know how I would feel about it if she were my neighbor. Doesn't much matter, since I live in NIMBY-land and the local ordinance-enforcers would be all over her if she were here. I think I could tune it out, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirangel Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I would be concerned if one of my neighbors did that especially if they said that their imaginary friend was telling them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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