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The Anger Phase Of Deconversion


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I've noticed that I'm becoming angry and even bitter towards typical xian sayings, symbols, and the mention of god in public. This stuff didn't used to affect me as much, but now, it does. Everytime I see one of those stupid Jesus fish on someone's car, I want to rip it off of there and smash it. One thing that really bothered me a lot was when I saw a little boy no more than 3 or 4 years old who was wearing a shirt that said somethng about god on it. I wanted to walk over to the boy's father and confront him about how disgusting it was that he chose his son's religion for him. That's probably the number one thing that bothers me the most about religion. My parents brainwashed me into xianity when I was about 2 years old. It disgusts me beyond belief to see parents doing the exact same thing to their children, especially when I know how badly it screwed me up. How do you deal with these emotions? How do you not go up to someone evangelizing on the street and punch them in the face? I'm so sick of religion being constantly shoved in my face. I live in TN, so it's pretty much everywhere.

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I'm right there with you. I'm still in my anger phase. And it is made even harder by all the xtians that surround me every day. I just wanna shake someone and say "snap out of it", but I can't. I'm still bitter over all the wasted years. I don't know if I'll ever be over it.

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I'm mostly angry about how they lie and deceive people.

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I'm mostly angry about how they lie and deceive people.

 

Is it lying if you are truly delusional enough to believe it? I was there. I lived it. I did not purposely lie to anyone. I guess I feel a great deal of shame along with my anger. I look back and can't believe what I spewed in the name of jesus

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How do you deal with these emotions? How do you not go up to someone evangelizing on the street and punch them in the face? I'm so sick of religion being constantly shoved in my face. I live in TN, so it's pretty much everywhere.

 

You come HERE.

 

Anger is permissible here. No one with a heart or a lick of sense is going to give you the "Anger is bad, you have no right to be angry" spiel. Most of us understand that ALL the human emotions deserve equalt treatment and understanding. But our culture in general encourages the idea that certain "negative" emotions are WRONG. Which is utterly unfair. Emotions are not wrong at all. It's only the behaviors those emotions can spur you to that could be judged. At the same time, lessons on appropriate outlets for anger sure as hell are not taught anywhere....so it gets repressed. And counselors all over eventually get to cash in on that repression (goody).

 

Angrily venting in online forums, no matter how evangelizers might claim they don't deserve to be treated that way....is BETTER behavior than getting confrontational in Real Life. It's how you are in Real Life that is the concern....and when you see something that makes your blood pressure go up, come on here and rant your head off.

 

You will feel better.

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I just wanted to clarify that I would never punch someone in the face. I'm not sure if people took that seriously or not, so I just wanted to get that out of the way. The most I would probably ever do is tell someone who was tryingbto evangelize to me that I'm an atheist and I don't want what they're trying to sell me. I will try to post here more, though.

 

Another thing that I've been thinking about is all of the people who are martyred for their faith and how sad and pathetic it is that they're dying for something that doesn't exist. What's even more sickening is that parents teach their kids that this is something noble and something to aspire to. It's no better than the stupid suicide bombers.

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Hi Skeptic,

I am still in the early stages of deconversion so yeah I still feel anger from time to time. My biggest bug lately is a xtian friend at work who is still subtly trying to change my mind. Yesterday she asked if I had ever done the Alpha course and would I like to go with her...I nearly cracked in two when she asked me. I politely said no thanks. Tell me why a person who was a christian for 13 effing years and walked away from it would need to go back to the basics and learn all about it again????? It had me puzzled. Did she not believe me when I said I was a christian. Oh that's right to walk away from it I probably wasnt a TRUE christian and didn't have the real relationship with jesus.Aaaaagh. I am over it. It makes me sick. I never, ever ,ever, ever, ever, ever,ever want to have anything to do with it ever ever ever again!!

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I just wanted to clarify that I would never punch someone in the face. I'm not sure if people took that seriously or not, so I just wanted to get that out of the way. The most I would probably ever do is tell someone who was tryingbto evangelize to me that I'm an atheist and I don't want what they're trying to sell me. I will try to post here more, though.

 

Another thing that I've been thinking about is all of the people who are martyred for their faith and how sad and pathetic it is that they're dying for something that doesn't exist. What's even more sickening is that parents teach their kids that this is something noble and something to aspire to. It's no better than the stupid suicide bombers.

 

I never went through the anger phase, but I have been angry at Christians who abuse the Bible to support their narrow-minded views.

 

I think the more "fundamentalist" you start out, the longer the anger phase lasts and the more intense the anger. I was a Catholic so I knew my church was had a lot of bunch of bullshit dogma and idolatry. Everyone knows the Renaissance popes had orgies and committed murder on a regular basis. The fall is easier when the statue does not rise so high.

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Hi Skeptic,

I am still in the early stages of deconversion so yeah I still feel anger from time to time. My biggest bug lately is a xtian friend at work who is still subtly trying to change my mind. Yesterday she asked if I had ever done the Alpha course and would I like to go with her...I nearly cracked in two when she asked me. I politely said no thanks. Tell me why a person who was a christian for 13 effing years and walked away from it would need to go back to the basics and learn all about it again????? It had me puzzled. Did she not believe me when I said I was a christian. Oh that's right to walk away from it I probably wasnt a TRUE christian and didn't have the real relationship with jesus.Aaaaagh. I am over it. It makes me sick. I never, ever ,ever, ever, ever, ever,ever want to have anything to do with it ever ever ever again!!

 

This kind of reminds me of the xians who assume people are atheists because they never read the bible. How sad that some people can't fathom how people can think for themselves.

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Hi Skeptic,

I am still in the early stages of deconversion so yeah I still feel anger from time to time. My biggest bug lately is a xtian friend at work who is still subtly trying to change my mind. Yesterday she asked if I had ever done the Alpha course and would I like to go with her...I nearly cracked in two when she asked me. I politely said no thanks. Tell me why a person who was a christian for 13 effing years and walked away from it would need to go back to the basics and learn all about it again????? It had me puzzled. Did she not believe me when I said I was a christian. Oh that's right to walk away from it I probably wasnt a TRUE christian and didn't have the real relationship with jesus.Aaaaagh. I am over it. It makes me sick. I never, ever ,ever, ever, ever, ever,ever want to have anything to do with it ever ever ever again!!

 

This kind of reminds me of the xians who assume people are atheists because they never read the bible. How sad that some people can't fathom how people can think for themselves.

 

Reading the Bible should lead one to atheism. I became an atheist by only reading the Bible. I've never read Sam Harris and I only read Freud after I became an atheist. The Bible itself--without any outside references to Darwin--is the best evidence for atheism. Surely a good God would not have authorized the genocide of the Amalekites. Ergo, the Bible is false.

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Its been two years now for me, and I am not that angry anymore and I tend to laugh at religious ideas/people rather than get upset. But I still have angry outbursts from time to time, especially if I hear someone talking about "Jesus saved so and so for a great purpose" and I want to scream "What the fuck is wrong with you?! Do you want to fuck them up?!" but that's mostly because of my own experiences.

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I was in the anger phase for awhile (I'm also an ex-catholic, but I took purification of the flesh very seriously). I still get irritated. I don't think children should be forced to grow up in a religion that teaches them to hate themselves.

 

Lately, I'm cooling down a little bit. I still delight in asking "stupid" questions to the street preacher we get on campus, and singing for them with my friends (usually "The internet is for porn" form Ave. Q). In the speech building, someone keeps writing "Jesus loves you" on the blackboard, and I keep erasing it. Little things like that keep me from reaching the full potential of my username.

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I would erase Jesus and replace it with Eros.

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I've noticed that I'm becoming angry and even bitter towards typical xian sayings, symbols, and the mention of god in public. This stuff didn't used to affect me as much, but now, it does. Everytime I see one of those stupid Jesus fish on someone's car, I want to rip it off of there and smash it. One thing that really bothered me a lot was when I saw a little boy no more than 3 or 4 years old who was wearing a shirt that said somethng about god on it. I wanted to walk over to the boy's father and confront him about how disgusting it was that he chose his son's religion for him. That's probably the number one thing that bothers me the most about religion. My parents brainwashed me into xianity when I was about 2 years old. It disgusts me beyond belief to see parents doing the exact same thing to their children, especially when I know how badly it screwed me up. How do you deal with these emotions? How do you not go up to someone evangelizing on the street and punch them in the face? I'm so sick of religion being constantly shoved in my face. I live in TN, so it's pretty much everywhere.

 

Welcome fellow Tennessean. *high fives*

 

You're correct about it being everwhere here. Those mini Ten Commandments are common place in many store display windows here and you can get a free leatherbound bible with purchase of a used car in places like Shelbyville. Everybody knows God loved Plymouth cars cause he drove Adam and Eve out in a Fury. :D

 

There is plenty to be angry about here in the South since ost everything here oozes religion in some shape or form. One way to deal with the anger is to try and reverse it into laughter. It's hard to at first, but detatch your emotions from yourself and examin what makes you laugh and angry you can make it harter to flip the anger switch.

 

 

 

I was in the anger phase for awhile (I'm also an ex-catholic, but I took purification of the flesh very seriously). I still get irritated. I don't think children should be forced to grow up in a religion that teaches them to hate themselves.

 

Lately, I'm cooling down a little bit. I still delight in asking "stupid" questions to the street preacher we get on campus, and singing for them with my friends (usually "The internet is for porn" form Ave. Q). In the speech building, someone keeps writing "Jesus loves you" on the blackboard, and I keep erasing it. Little things like that keep me from reaching the full potential of my username.

 

Instead of erasing the message, ad "That's why he sends people to Hell." :D

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I was in the anger phase for awhile (I'm also an ex-catholic, but I took purification of the flesh very seriously). I still get irritated. I don't think children should be forced to grow up in a religion that teaches them to hate themselves.

 

Lately, I'm cooling down a little bit. I still delight in asking "stupid" questions to the street preacher we get on campus, and singing for them with my friends (usually "The internet is for porn" form Ave. Q). In the speech building, someone keeps writing "Jesus loves you" on the blackboard, and I keep erasing it. Little things like that keep me from reaching the full potential of my username.

 

The Catholic Church is handing out indulgences again. That's why I love the Church. Of course the Church has ruined plenty of lives, but you can't take this stuff too seriously: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/nyregion...ulgence.html?em

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Are they not wealthy enough as it is? I guess they are selling them again due to the losses from the lawsuits over sexual abuse.

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I'm still dealing with anger issues myself. Not only because I spent so much time in fear of an invisible monster, but because so there are so many people trapped in the nightmare.

 

It breaks my heart so many people tremble in fear , convinced that the universe is ruled by an omnipotent monster, who demands worship me or burn! The hell doctrine and how many people's hearts and minds it has filled with terror fill me with rage.

 

Other things that piss me off, is all the money that preachers and tv evangelists, make off of the faithful through tithes , offerings and "love donations". We've all heard stories of people who are so gullible they'll send practically their last penny to some "ministry" that's spreading the "good news of Jesus and the wolves in sheep's clothing live like kings.

 

Also, all the disabled and those with terminal diseases who are so desperate and gullible they'll

seek out faith healers who can give them nothing but false hope and these poor souls who are supposedly healed suffer even worse by not taking their medications or throwing away their crutches and neck braces.

 

 

Last but not least I hate how these bastards are always trying to tell not only the faithful, but the rest of us how we're supposed to live our lives.

 

 

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I would erase Jesus and replace it with Eros.

 

I did. Thanks for the idea. It made my day.

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I enjoy reading this stuff. I'm even more encouraged by the other Southerners on here

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