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I got this "Letter from God" email and thought it was worthy of sharing. So I posted it on CF and some people thought it was good http://www.christianforums.com/t1978629-got-an-email.html

 

I posted it to other places too and it seems that only Christians had a problem with it, everyone else seemed to accept the view point, may not fully agree, but it seems to have made sense to most people.

 

The rub: The thread on CF was closed overnight last night, can't figure out why it would be closed... Too Positive? Makes too much sense? I can't figure why it would be closed, there was no fighting going on. Strange.

 

 

 

Well, here it is, for what it's worth:

 

 

 

 

Letter From God - About Religion

 

 

 

 

 

 

My Dear Children

 

(and believe me, that's all of you),

 

I consider myself a pretty patient guy. I mean, look at the Grand Canyon. It took millions of years to get it right. And about evolution? Boy, nothing is slower than designing that whole Darwinian thing to take place, cell by cell, and gene by gene.

 

I've been patient through your fashions, civilizations, wars and schemes, and the countless ways you take Me for granted until you get yourselves into big trouble again and again.

 

I want to let you know about some of the things that are starting to tick me off.

 

First of all, your religious rivalries are driving Me up a wall. Enough already! Let's get one thing straight.

 

These are YOUR religions, not Mine.

 

I'm the whole enchilada; I'm beyond them all. Every one of your religions claims there is only one of Me (which by the way, is absolutely true). But in the very next breath, each religion claims it's My favorite one. And each claims its bible was written personally by Me, and that all the other bible's are man-made. Oh, Me. How do I even begin to put a stop to such complicated nonsense?

 

Okay, listen up now. I'm your Father AND Mother, and I don't play favorites among My children. Also, I hate to break it to you, but I don't write. My longhand is awful, and I've always been more of a "doer" anyway.

 

So ALL of your books, including those bible's, were written by men and women. They were inspired, remarkable people, but they also made mistakes here and there. I made sure of that, so that you would never trust a written word more than your own living heart.

 

You see, one human being to me -- even a bum on the street -- is worth more than all the Holy Books in the world. That's just the kind of guy I am.

 

My Spirit is not a historical thing, it's alive right here, right now, as fresh as your next breath. Holy books and religious rites are sacred and powerful, but not more so than the least of you.

 

They were only meant to steer you in the right direction, not to keep you arguing with each other, and certainly not to keep you from trusting your own personal connection with Me. Which brings Me to My next point about your nonsense.

 

You act like I need you and your religions to stick up for Me or "win souls" for My sake. Please, don't do Me any favors. I can stand quite well on my own, thank you. I don't need you to defend Me, and I don't need constant credit.

 

I just want you to be good to each other.

 

And another thing: I don't get all worked up over money or politics, so stop dragging My name into your dramas.

 

For example, I swear to Me that I never threatened Oral Roberts. I never rode in any of Rajneesh's Rolls Royces. I never told Pat Robertson to run for president, and I've never EVER had a conversation with Jim Baker, Jerry Falwell, or Jimmy Swaggart! Of course, come Judgement Day, I certainly intend to...

 

The thing is, I want you to stop thinking of religion as some sort of loyalty pledge to Me. The true purpose of your religions is so that YOU can become more aware of ME, not the other way around.

 

Believe Me, I know you already. I know what's in each of your hearts, and I love you with no strings attached.

 

Lighten up and enjoy Me. That's what religion is best for. What you seem to forget is how mysterious I am.

 

You look at the petty differences in your scriptures and say, "Well, if THIS is the truth, then THAT can't be!" But instead of trying to figure out My Paradoxes and Unfathomable Nature--which by the way, you NEVER will--why not open your hearts to the simple common threads in all religions.

 

You know what I'm talking about: Love and respect everyone. Be kind, even when life is scary or confusing, take courage and be of good cheer, for I am always with you. Learn how to be quiet, so you can hear My still, small voice (I don't like to shout).

 

Leave the world a better place by living your life with dignity and gracefulness, for you are My Own Child.

 

Hold back nothing from life, for the parts of you that can die surely will, and the parts that can't, won't. So don't worry, be happy (I stole that last line from Bobby McFerrin, but who do you think gave it to him in the first place?)

 

Simple stuff. Why do you keep making it so complicated?

 

It's like you're always looking for an excuse to be upset. And I'm very tired of being your main excuse. Do you think I care whether you call me Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, Wakantonka, Brahma, Father, Mother or even the Void of Nirvana?

 

Do you think I care which of My special children you feel closest to -- Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed or any of the others?

 

You can call Me and My Special Ones any name you choose, if only yo u would go about My business of loving one another as I love you. How can you keep neglecting something so simple? I'm not telling you to abandon your religions. Enjoy your religions, honor them, learn from them, just as you should enjoy, honor, and learn from your parents. But do you walk around telling everyone that your parents are better than theirs?

 

Your religion, like your parents, may always have the most special place in your heart; I don't mind that at all. And I don't want you to combine all the Great Traditions in One Big Mess.

 

Each religion is unique for a reason. Each has a unique style so that people can find the best path for themselves. But My Special Children -- the ones that your religions revolve around -- all live in the same place (My heart) and they get along perfectly, I assure you.

 

The clergy must stop creating a myth of sibling rivalry where there is none. My blessed children of Earth, the world has grown too small for your pervasive religious bigotries and confusion. The whole planet is connected by air travel, satellite dishes, telephones, fax machines, rock concerts, diseases, and mutual needs and concerns.

 

Get with the program!

 

If you really want to help then commit yourselves to figuring out how to feed your hungry, clothe your naked, protect your abused, and shelter your poor. And just as importantly, make your own everyday life a shining example of kindness and good humor.

 

I've given you all the resources you need, if only you abandon your fear of each other and begin living, loving, and laughing together. Finally, My Children everywhere, when you think of the life of Jesus and the fearlessness with which He chose to live and die. As I love Him, so do I love each one of you.

 

I'm not really ticked off, I just wanted to grab your attention because I hate to see you suffer.

 

But I gave you free will.

 

I just want you to be happy. Always. Trust in Me.

 

Your One and Only,

 

God.

 

 

Author unknown

 

 

 

Whatcha think?

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Its not based in fear, so its bad. That the thread was closed means you did something good. I know of many christians via the web who would agree with your letter too.

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Its not based in fear, so its bad.  That the thread was closed means you did something good.  I know of many christians via the web who would agree with your letter too.

 

That's reassuring. I thought it was very positive and not offensive to Anyone. Go figure. I guess the action of closing it must say volumes.. just not sure what, yet.

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Its not based in fear, so its bad.  That the thread was closed means you did something good.  I know of many christians via the web who would agree with your letter too.

 

While I don't usually have a negative opinion of CF, i'm afraid this is true. Someone got pissed off by the included claim that all Holy Books™ are fallible or something similar.

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That's reassuring.  I thought it was very positive and not offensive to Anyone.  Go figure.  I guess the action of closing it must say volumes.. just not sure what, yet.

 

To think that (judging from my very own experience) CF is one of the more tolerant sites out there...

 

... I don't know whether I should be scared, disgusted, or whatever else. :scratch:

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Incredible... That "letter" sums up what I've been trying to tell people for a long time.... Incredible

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I also got another quote in email and posted it on the thread.. maybe this is why it was closed? Although, I thought it was even more positive than the Letter

 

 

 

 

 

Do you need Me? I am there. You cannot see Me, yet I am the light you see by. You cannot hear Me, yet I speak through your voice. You cannot feel Me, yet I am the power at work in your hands. I am at work, though you do not understand My ways. I am at work, though you do not understand My works. I am not strange visions. I am not mysteries. Only in absolute stillness, beyond self, can you know Me as I AM, and then but as a feeling and a faith. Yet I am here. Yet I hear. Yet I answer.

 

When you need ME, I am there. Even if you deny Me, I am there. Even when you feel most alone, I am there. Even in your fears, I am there. Even in your pain, I am there. I am there when you pray and when you do not pray. I am in you, and you are in Me.

 

Only in your mind can you feel separate from Me, for only in your mind are the mists of "yours" and "mine". Yet only with your mind can you know Me and experience Me. Empty your heart of empty fears.

 

When you get yourself out of the way, I am there. You can of yourself do nothing, but I can do all. And I AM in all. Though you may not see the good, good is there, for I am there. I am there because I have to be, because I AM. Only in Me does the world have meaning; only out of Me does the world take form; only because of ME does the world go forward.

 

I am the law on which the movement of the stars and the growth of living cells are founded. I am the love that is the law's fulfilling. I am assurance. I am peace. I am oneness I am the law that you can live by. I am the love that you can cling to. I am your assurance. I am your peace. I am ONE with you. I am. Though you fail to find ME, I do not fail you. Though your faith in Me is unsure, My faith in you never wavers, because I know you, because I love you. Beloved, I AM there.

 

James Dillet Freeman

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Maybe Christians don't want to Share. They want a Monopoly on God. They need to feel good about themselves, considering how much Work it takes to be in a No Works beliefs system.

 

If you suddenly said "Ok, I believe in Jesus", they'd give you all these new rules you have to follow and adhere to and do daily or weekly.

 

So it's NOT just a matter of believing Jesus came to Save Us All, Once, for "It is Done", you also have to give 10% of your life away, spend all your spare time doing things others Expect of you.

 

Or maybe something else, or more.. I don't know... I don't get it.

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I guess the action of closing it must say volumes..

Yeah, it sure does! If there's one thing that Christians fear it's TRUTH - real, actual, verifiable TRUTH. They are scared shitless of it because REAL truth poses a mortal threat to the lies and myths that they wish to believe equals "TRUTH". REALITY scares the hell out of religious people. It makes them very uncomfortable. Those who can't handle REALITY as it is hide from it in the comfortable myths and lies of religion. The folks at CF closed the thread because it contained too much truth and made too much sense.

 

As for the letter, "Amen!" Glory!

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So is it true then that the very people who Say they want World Peace and Good Will Towards Men are the very ones who are actually Blocking it from ever happening? Seems like they want it, and they want it on their terms, only, which is impossible for most.

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It's not the Real True Christian view, so apparently that makes it TeH Ev!L!!!!1!1!

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