cobrakai Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Not sure what to make of these "Authentic Christian Believers" I see on here lately. Is this one person or a group of many? Is it just me or am I seeing a lot more christian posts on here lately? I know some people don't mind debate and neither do I, but I thought the whole point of this site was to get away from all that shit. Is this a battle ground or a place to recover? Anyone else seeing a trend? Does it bother anybody else? I am just so sick of seeing their nonsense on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loren Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Kathleen asked almost exactly the same question in this thread. I've copied my answer to her below. Why would you allow christians to express themselves though? Isnt that what the site is for, to get away from christians? No, it's not. It's to help people deconvert and to deal with issues that arise from both Christianity and deconversion. The whole web is available to get away from Christians. Dealing with Christians is something we'll all be facing for the rest of our lives, with or without the internet. This is an excellent venue for learning how to do it. Why do you even want to have dialog with christians? Doesnt it just aggravate and pour salt into the wounds? Sometimes it does. That's why there are a couple of fora where Christians can't post, and one where they can't read. But wanting to have dialogue with Christians is only a small part of it. A large part of it is the strong free speech ethic here. There are literally thousands of Christian fora where censorship is the rule. The slightest disagreement or divergence from party line will get posts instantly deleted and posters banned outright. We have enough self-respect and respect for principles to show a higher ethic than that. I've been here long enough to know that a vast majority of our members would see that kind of behavior to be spineless and cowardly, and a tacit admission that we really don't have anything to offer which will stand on it's own merit (Just as it is on Christian sites.), and that we'd be ashamed of ourselves if we comported ourselves in such a way. Another reason is to show Christian behavior in all it's disgusting ugliness, part of which is social behavior, and part of which is the perpetual inability of those who claim to be, "led by God," to deal with very important questions which should have been dealt with centuries ago, and which would have been had such people actually been led in any appreciable way by the Almighty. Again, unlike sites which ban and delete divergent views, we go the other way and make them a matter of public record, along with a steady stream of real-life examples of just how badly the, "indwelling of the Holy Spirit," has failed and continues to fail the Christians. At the same time, many new deconverts who know deep inside that there's something terribly wrong with this or that aspect of Christianity, but haven't been able to put their finger on it, can see cogent answers to the party line responses which had been fed to them all those years by the deceitful and unscrupulous clergy in the name of, "equipping," them to deal with the very real moral problems inescapably presented by core doctrines and tenets. As far as personal tastes go, it's left up to the individual members here to interact or not as they see fit. Some do, some don't, some change from day to day depending on their mood at the moment. Again, it's a matter of not wanting to rob people of their dignity and ability to make their own choices, as well as not pridefully thinking that we are wise enough to control others in every little respect. Christianity has done that to us enough already. We'd rather eat ground glass than do to others what Christianity has done and continues to do to people. Isn't twenty centuries of that kind of amoral crap enough? We want to set the moral bar for ourselves higher than those thousands of Christian sites evidently do. And frankly, we manage to get over that bar quite well (usually) without trying too damn hard, which says something very clear and damning about the bulk of Christian discourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hereticzero Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 We get several from time to time that want to preach and remain quiet until they think we may be responsive to their doctrines and testimonies. Anyone can post, that is why there is the Lion's Den for those who feel the need to evangelize. People who left xtianity and joined other religions are also on here. I do not see much preaching from them about their new religion. Many of us, and myself included, have gone through periods of on again and off again xtianity. It goes with leaving a cult, you look for a new one to replace it. Eventually we find that the idea to leave religion all together was the right one. Some find a new religion and stay with it. We don't like to prevent people from posting, it is a free speech thing. But when someone posts in the Lion's Den you disagree with, have fun and tell them what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par4dcourse Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 They can always be befuddled by the words "prove it". It's their kryptonite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vomit Comet Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I myself pay them no mind, except in cases where they really step over the line (e.g. singling out gay people for harassment, etc.). 95% of the time I remain blissfully unaware of whatever shit they're pulling here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ nivek ♦ Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Ex-C is proudly one of the most classically liberal spots on InTARweBb for this kind of discussion. Our staff is much more a clean up squad than "POLICE!!!111!!!!!". Object is to allow the greatest amount of Freedom, using the US First Amendment as formation for thought and expression. Yeah, the religious are allowed some presence here. Religious folks get more inches of print here than "we" have been allowed at at any supposed loving christian site... Keep within the bounds of the guidelines, try not to go about pissing folks off with incessant "church sprecch", enjoy visit here. "Larn ya sumthin' " while you use your valuable time surfing. Don't fuck with the Staff for kicks and giggles. Taking their long suffering and patience as permission to raise hell is a misguided thought process. You will not find many *wins* here being a spastic. I exist to clean Webmaster Dave's floors with such knuckleheads.. k, bottlewasher for the Boss, FL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyboy76 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 i kinda like when a christian posts something because it gives everyone a chance to see their ignorance and experience their arrogance first hand. even though we have all experienced it enough, it is good to have examples around to be easily seen. we know it is a illogical blind faith, but its good to see it demonstrated, in case we ever start to forget how deluded they really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight-mindwanderings Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Its the closeness of Easter I bet. I noticed an increase around Christmas time as well. I don't mind though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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