bornagainathiest Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 http://www.gemini.ed...de/11836</span> http://www.jpl.nasa....2012-197</span> http://newsroom.ucla...572.aspx</span> Well, I can think of three possibilities, ranging from the highly unlikely thru the downright weird to the unashamedly speculative. 1. Our models of planet formation are dead wrong. Instead of taking millions of years, maybe it just takes dozens. (Unlikely, imho.) 2. This star is a freak and there'll never be another one that behaves anything like this. (Unlikely, improbable and really weird, if that's true!) 3. All the dust (several planet's worth!) has been rapidly hoovered up by von Neumann probes... http://en.wikipedia....n_probes</span> ...for purposes known only to their makers. Any other offers? BAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babylonian Dream Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Makes no sense to me. Maybe extreme solar wind? At a loss of astronomical purportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 4. God did it. 5. It was the Langoliers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babylonian Dream Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Umm... guys... The klingons did it! Isn't it obvious? Who else would be so willing to destroy an entire solar system, and feel no emotion in doing so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDKitty Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Umm... guys... The klingons did it! Isn't it obvious? Who else would be so willing to destroy an entire solar system, and feel no emotion in doing so? The Romulans, duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdaddy Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Umm... guys... The klingons did it! Isn't it obvious? Who else would be so willing to destroy an entire solar system, and feel no emotion in doing so? The Romulans, duh! Ancient Aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurisaz Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 As the interested layman who I am, I wouldn't rule out a freak influence coming from another star originally... like, some star not too far away went boom, the gamma ray burst hit that system and did awful things to the dust So many things are possible out there... what a shame that we won't be able to get there to see it with our own eyes anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainathiest Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 As the interested layman who I am, I wouldn't rule out a freak influence coming from another star originally... like, some star not too far away went boom, the gamma ray burst hit that system and did awful things to the dust So many things are possible out there... what a shame that we won't be able to get there to see it with our own eyes anytime soon Hey Thuriasz! Please turn the corners of your mouth upwards! Why? Because we don't have to... "get there, anytime soon" ...to see what's happening. . . . Mid 2012 http://planetimager.org/ 2013 http://www.almaobservatory.org/ 2018 http://www.jwst.nasa.gov/ 2020 http://www.gmto.org/ Early 2020's http://www.eso.org/p...nstr/e-elt.html Whenever. http://www.eso.org/sci/facilities/eelt/owl/ . . Hang in there, partner! BAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurisaz Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Hey I didn't want to say we know nothing and have no way at all to learn anything... I'd just prefer to have a way to see it all personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryper Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 or the simpler explaination. The theory of planetary formation needs to be updated. Like any model of how something works, it is correct in a majority of cases sa 75% - 80% of the time. That other 20% of the time something goes wonky. Or even simpler, as happens in cosmology alot, we just happened to be in the right position to actually see the process "in action" thus leading to the first point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelHappy Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Oh wait until creationists twist this story..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainathiest Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Hey I didn't want to say we know nothing and have no way at all to learn anything... I'd just prefer to have a way to see it all personally You and me both, bro! Ok, I'm pleased to be living during the twilight of Christianity... ... but on the flip side,I also wish I'd been born in 30th century, not the 20th! C'est la vie! BAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainathiest Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 or the simpler explaination. The theory of planetary formation needs to be updated. Like any model of how something works, it is correct in a majority of cases sa 75% - 80% of the time. That other 20% of the time something goes wonky. Or even simpler, as happens in cosmology alot, we just happened to be in the right position to actually see the process "in action" thus leading to the first point. I'll go with that Stryper. But the consequences (if your take is the correct one) are just staggering! We'd have to drop the familiar timeframes of millions of years for astronomical events, in favor much, much shorter ones - perhaps centuries or millennia. This article... http://www.space.com...ar-systems.html ...and the links within it suggest that Alan Boss' new Disk Instability model can deal with rapid planet formation, whereas the original Core Accretion model can't. If things pan out in Boss' favor, then we've got a ringside seat and can watch new worlds assembling themselves before our very (telescopic) eyes. Thanks, BAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Who flipped the switch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainathiest Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Oh wait until creationists twist this story..... Oh wait... I know what they'll say, FeelHappy! 2 Peter 3: 8 (NIV) But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. So, if it looks like a new solar system is forming over something like a 6,000 year period, that's proof poz that God takes 6 days to make a world like ours? R-i-i-i-i-g-h-t! BAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornagainathiest Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Who flipped the switch? You need to ask, Ouroboros? According to OrdinaryClay... "even a small amount of thought will show the truth of Intelligent Design". BAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think it will be interesting to find out if there are now planets of some sort left in the system, or if the material is actually all gone. Either way, it's pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeasabird Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Our telescopes were getting too close so god had to pick up and move further away again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddbird1963 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 That's amazing. Are they saying new planets formed, or just that irradiated dust just cooled off quickly so now we can't see it? Maybe some systems form planets like theorized, but others spontaneously abort. Just so it's not the star's choice to abort the solar system. We wouldn't want that now, would we? I don't see how it could support creationist assertions either way. Of course, without rationality, the creationists can assert anything they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 That's amazing. Are they saying new planets formed, or just that irradiated dust just cooled off quickly so now we can't see it? It doesn't look like they know if there are planets in the system or not. I would imagine it would also be difficult to tell if they had anything to do with the disappearance of the dust or not, since we don't know if any planets that may be discovered existed before the event that cleared out the dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser01 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 My bets are on either a massive solar wind of gastronomical proportions but it could be anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2Much Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 My bets are on either a massive solar wind of gastronomical proportions but it could be anything. "Gastronomical" proportions? Are you saying the star cooked all of the dust into some sort of béchamel, or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser01 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 My bets are on either a massive solar wind of gastronomical proportions but it could be anything. "Gastronomical" proportions? Are you saying the star cooked all of the dust into some sort of béchamel, or something? Yes that is exactly it, massive flatulence from the star propelled the dust out into space. Unfourtantly it also killed all the other baby stars in the nebula as well, the proto-star is now being charged with 10 million accounts of star slaughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Babylonian Dream Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 No, it was them soviets! Those evil commies launched a rocket and it blew up, sending all the dust headed for 'Murka! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabula Rasa Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Pssst! Just between you and me... The real reason the dust cloud vanished is because of Galactus. See, when he's not devouring the life force of planets, he's snorting space dust and getting high as fuck. That's the real reason Norrin Radd, the Silver Surfer quit being his herald. He got tired of hearing Galactus say "I'm Galactus bitch!" before he ate a planet. The more you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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