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How do you like what you like? I like goth chicks and am not turned on by skinny women, I like a little meat. Most guys do not like goth or chicks that need to lose 20 pounds. does that make me evil or a fuck up?

 

By the way: gays say 10 percnt of the population is gay, christians say 1 percent. From what I see, 10 percent sounds much more exact.

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That was neat about the antibodies/birth order thing. Learn something new every day around here, I do :)

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By the way: gays say 10 percnt of the population is gay, christians say 1 percent. From what I see, 10 percent sounds much more exact.

 

The reality is probably somewhere in between.

 

The 10% number was based on Kinsey's research, but is probably not accurate. This is not a knock on Kinsey, it's just that he probably didn't have the tools available to him at the time to get a more accurate number.

 

The 1% number is probably too low, and isn't based on any real research that I can find. The U.S. Census found that less than 1% of households identified as homosexual couples, so that's less than 2% of the population.

 

Various organizations have attempted to find out the real percentage, but the numbers are all over the place. All we know is that it's between 1% and 10%.

 

Oddly enough, people tend to severely overestimate the number of homosexuals in the United States, according to Gallup.

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That was neat about the antibodies/birth order thing. Learn something new every day around here, I do smile.png

 

I have heard that one before. I am the first born and I know many who are also first born. It is a very interesting theory but there is not enough evidence. The twin thing is actually true and that goes for male/female twins as well. I know many gay twins.

 

 

 

Various organizations have attempted to find out the real percentage, but the numbers are all over the place. All we know is that it's between 1% and 10%.

 

Oddly enough, people tend to severely overestimate the number of homosexuals in the United States, according to Gallup.

 

I spent a lot of time trying to track down the origins of this. It's very hard to do, I still don't have an actual source. However I stopped looking because some researcher explained it really well. In essence he said that the 10% includes all gay men, lesbians, bisexual and people who are questioning their sexuality. So that roughly makes up about 10%. This includes people in and out of the closet. After all the studies I read where the numbers would be high (12%) and then really low (3%), and on and on it would go, 10% is actually a good estimate.

 

It totally cracks me up that people are estimating 20-25%. That would be so awesome (for me anyhow). Unfortunately that high estimate is a double edged sword. On the one hand more people "think" they see "gay" people and are more accepting (good) but on the other hand it works in reverse and more people discriminate and commit crimes against people who are "gay" or who they think are gay but are actually straight people. That's why having gay bashing as a hate crime is important, it works in favor of straight people who were targeted as gay.

 

Well I just went a whole new direction there didn't I. :o Anyhow hope that helps clarify the 10% thing a little more.

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It did help a lot, thanks :) Makes me look back at my past fundie life with different eyes, too. I wonder how the percentages look in the fundie denominations? About the same, or more gays or fewer gays?

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The really deliciously ironic part about the theory about birth order and the likelihood of homosexuality is this: the more successful those "quiverfull" dipshits are at pumping out children, the more likely they are to have at least one child that's homosexual. And that thought makes me smile just a little bit (although I feel sorry for the kids born into that situation).

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Sadly it happens more than people realize. There are many people who have the same story. Born into a religious family, lots of siblings, parents and some siblings rejected them, kicked out on the street and rejected by their family. I would say that about half of those people eventually gain acceptance by their family after 4-12 years. The other half either never speak to their family ever again or have a distant relationship with one parent only and sometimes not a very close one.

 

Going to catholic school makes you come out faster. And if your father was a preacher/minister you tend to be more wild in the early years that you come out.

 

None of this is a study, just my life experiences with people. It's one of the reasons I am so down on religion. I have watched it destroy people.

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How do you like what you like? I like goth chicks and am not turned on by skinny women, I like a little meat. Most guys do not like goth or chicks that need to lose 20 pounds. does that make me evil or a fuck up?

 

By the way: gays say 10 percnt of the population is gay, christians say 1 percent. From what I see, 10 percent sounds much more exact.

 

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The really deliciously ironic part about the theory about birth order and the likelihood of homosexuality is this: the more successful those "quiverfull" dipshits are at pumping out children, the more likely they are to have at least one child that's homosexual. And that thought makes me smile just a little bit (although I feel sorry for the kids born into that situation).

 

thats the first thing that come to mind when i saw that part. What on earth will go on in those poor kids' their heads when they realize.

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I was skeptical about the whole 10% of the population statistic, until I realized that each one of my jobs, there were at least 2 gay people (myself included) in each department I worked in. Also, now, there are 21 associates (not counting management or my gay manager), at least 4 I know are bisexual or gay. I don't know about you, but that's a high number. Its not like we advertise or answer sexual orientation questions at a job interview but its very common.

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Again, i do not see the big deal with gays. personally, I really hate peas, but I am not going to judge someone on weather like peas. Sam ething with sexual prefernce, why shoul dit make a difference.

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Again, i do not see the big deal with gays. personally, I really hate peas, but I am not going to judge someone on weather like peas. Sam ething with sexual prefernce, why shoul dit make a difference.

The big deal is that the Bible clearly states that gays are an abomination to the lord, in both testaments not just one. And it clearly states that they are to be put to death if they have sexual relations with one another. That's their problem with it. It's not like whether or not you like peas, the BIble speaks worse of homosexuality than it does rape, murder, etc....

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Again, i do not see the big deal with gays. personally, I really hate peas, but I am not going to judge someone on weather like peas. Sam ething with sexual prefernce, why shoul dit make a difference.

The big deal is that the Bible clearly states that gays are an abomination to the lord, in both testaments not just one. And it clearly states that they are to be put to death if they have sexual relations with one another. That's their problem with it. It's not like whether or not you like peas, the BIble speaks worse of homosexuality than it does rape, murder, etc....

I saw a really good documentary ("In God We Trust?") in which a woman talked about how bad it is to keep slaves. The filmmaker handed her a Bible and asked her to read out a few specific verses and she suddenly switched her position to say that homosexuality is worse than keeping slaves because one is prohibited in the Bible.

 

Another good one is "For the Bible Tells Me So." A Bible expert pointed out that "abomination" actually meant something more like "untraditional" - which of course homosexuality was and still is. You can lose so much by taking the Bible as the literal, divinely-inspired word of God, though I kinda wish those types would start severing limbs whenever they sin.

 

On gay marriage, I do agree with antixian(ex-)xian: straight people have no right to have an opinion on something that doesn't affect them. Thankfully a lot of Christians these days seem to be coming around to that idea, and more will do so when they realise allowing gay marriage won't tear society asunder.

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there's no way it's 1%, I read a statistic that 1% of the population is intersexual. Plain old garden-variety gays are way more common.

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Intersexual??

 

You know, the new road they built through town... the Intersexual? I think you have to pay a toll as well. :o

 

 

 

Or you could look here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex :D

 

Or you could have just posted a link to your moms Facebook account.

 

ZING!!!!

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there are a fookuvalot of closet bi guys though, and I'd be willing to bet on that many of 'em are church going men, with wives weighed down with the shame that Xtianity brings, thence unable to please their husbands, so the guy gets into online porn, starts exploring, get's turned on by "forbidden fruit", joins an online sex forum, and so it goes.... next thing is a visit to a local bathouse to see what's up cos it's a fookuvalot easier to hookup with a horny guy who wants some action that with a woman for many....

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I just can't believe that in the second decade of the 21st century, we still have bafflewits that think this way:

 

Question from one Christian in the comments section of a blog dedicated to leaving fundamentalism:

I wonder how some Christians would deal with a gay man who was immersed in the Gay Lifestyle but who gets saved? espesially if that man does not immediately becomes “straight” and, although he leaves the lifesyle behind, still struggles with homosexual feelings. I actually know some men who are in that situation. Are they as “gloriously” saved as the alcoholic or drug addict? Are they saved at all?

 

Fundagelical answer from another commenter:

If he gets saved and he truly wants to do what’s right, and learns that the Bible has said this lifestyle is wrong, he should from that point on live celibately, and pray for God to remove his wrongful desires. If he is living with someone he needs to separate from them. Then let God work in his life to make him what God wants him to be. It may take time but if he’s patient and he prays and fasts (and gets others to as well) he may overcome this. Some never seem to, like Ray Boltz who struggled for years before giving up.

 

Sure. Just pray the gay away, and God will bless you with... celibacy. If you already have a partner and you get "saved," you need to leave them. Yeah, I'm sure lots of gay people will sign up for that.

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That was disgusting, T2M. The lofty smugness wafting up from this fundie's foul hole made me just reel.

 

Notice how the guy managed to work in celibacy, demands for the gay person to give up his love relationship, and condemnation of "quitters" all in one horrible paragraph. Oh, and the implication that if he fails, it's only because he didn't fast and pray enough--or have enough friends doing the same to convince God to take away those awful "same sex attractions" in the most perverse popularity contest I've ever encountered.

 

As my husband says, that's all mighty white of him.

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The reply was from a woman. The site is mostly populated by people who have left fundamentalism, but I think this woman is still in the foyer and hasn't left the building yet. I picture any woman saying what she said as being dressed in a long, frumpy denim skirt and having hair that's never been cut. I can also picture her saying that at a ladies Bible study, and all the other frumpily dressed women nodding and saying, "Amen," and "That's right! Thank you Jesus for your great love."

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Against my better judgment, I replied:

 

"Wow. What an awful thing to think and to say. How can you not be ashamed to type such a thing? It’s sad that most Christians probably treat their pets with more humanity than they treat homosexuals."

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