RintrahRoars Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Well I'm guessing it's been done before, a "Christian" band using the f-word in their songs, but definitely not by a band as big as P.O.D. Honestly, I listened to this song and thought well fucking done. This seems to me exactly what Jesus was doing when he was hanging out and identifying with sinners, going down to the lowest of lows where religious would never dare tread. I kind of feel like this symbolizes a crack in modern American Christianity. I dunno. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser01 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I know there is a large debate dealing with this band in Christian circles rather or not they are "Christian." Ive looked into this, and apparently their theology is very vague and without much relation to most Christian theology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BendyLine Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 How edgy! Now I might just consider converting back to fuckin' Christianity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpudd1n Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Jesus, sounds more like a deconversion song than a christian song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I am sure POD is not considered True Christian material, because their lyrics aren't the usual sterile, cutesy all-about-jebus lyrics that Christians prefer. Also POD is actually a band with talent, unlike pretty much all Christian musicians and bands. So if they happen to say fuck, good for them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeCycle Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 They're Rastafarians, not Christians. They refer to God as "Jah" all throughout their music. The dreds, the Jamaican influence in their music... It's all there. Track number 13 from their Album Satellite is called, "Without Jah, Nothin." Track number 8 from the same album is called "The Messenjah" <--- See how they spelled that? Lyrics from that song... "Forever blessed, I believe if Jah said it" They could have said "God" there, but they didn't. http://en.wikipedia....tafari_movement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hereticzero Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 yah man, it's Jah. I think the use of the word is more for shock value otherwise not much attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RintrahRoars Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 their theology is very vague The theologies of most Christians who aren't theologians or snobs are vague. No surprise here. Also POD is actually a band with talent, unlike pretty much all Christian musicians and bands. Agreed. They're Rastafarians, not Christians. They refer to God as "Jah" all throughout their music. The dreds, the Jamaican influence in their music... It's all there. If they were Rastafarians it would have been pointed out by fundies long ago. Saying Jah and making music with Rastas doesn't make them Rastas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RintrahRoars Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 Also I nearly pissed my pants when I first realized that the dude featured in Without Jah Nothing was from Bad Brains. They are a legit Rasta band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeCycle Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 If they were Rastafarians it would have been pointed out by fundies long ago. Saying Jah and making music with Rastas doesn't make them Rastas. I've never heard a Christian refer to God as "Jah" but admit that could just be the case in my little part of the world... However, I've never seen a famous preacher use the term either. POD seems to make a point to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endemoniada Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Well this is rather interesting. Just for fun, I looked up a review of this album (Christian, of course) and the main review gave it two fucking stars out of five, just for using a blurred f-word in one little song. He basically did nothing but praise the album, pointing out a few weak songs, and then completely altered his opinion over that one word. Here's a quote: The usage of such a word directly after the name of Christ is completely disheartening and dirties the most beautiful name on earth. I understand reaching out to a person that doesn't know Christ, but that doesn't mean we have to act or talk like them to accomplish the mission, role-playing or not. And the comments are great too. One guy basically said that he understood why they would want to use the word, considering the perspective of the song. And then, someone said this: Christians should be bringing the world to Jesus, not try to take Jesus to the world. As much as I despise this holier-than-thou attitude of so many christians, I hope they keep it up, if it drives more people away from their religion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RintrahRoars Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 If they were Rastafarians it would have been pointed out by fundies long ago. Saying Jah and making music with Rastas doesn't make them Rastas. I've never heard a Christian refer to God as "Jah" but admit that could just be the case in my little part of the world... However, I've never seen a famous preacher use the term either. POD seems to make a point to do so. Or maybe they're just influenced by reggae or are trying to be cool O_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen652 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 "This is me, we are him and I am you" I like it. I remember having one of their cds when i was a christian but never really got into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeCycle Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Just downloaded that album. Great so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
★ Citsonga ★ Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 They're Rastafarians, not Christians. They refer to God as "Jah" all throughout their music. The dreds, the Jamaican influence in their music... It's all there. Track number 13 from their Album Satellite is called, "Without Jah, Nothin." Track number 8 from the same album is called "The Messenjah" <--- See how they spelled that? Lyrics from that song... "Forever blessed, I believe if Jah said it" They could have said "God" there, but they didn't. http://en.wikipedia....tafari_movement I'm pretty sure that I read an interview years ago where POD said that they were using "Jah" as the shortened version of "Jehovah." That is indeed the basis of "jah" in the term "hallelujah." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbler Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 their theology is very vague The theologies of most Christians who aren't theologians or snobs are vague. No surprise here. Also POD is actually a band with talent, unlike pretty much all Christian musicians and bands. Agreed. They're Rastafarians, not Christians. They refer to God as "Jah" all throughout their music. The dreds, the Jamaican influence in their music... It's all there. If they were Rastafarians it would have been pointed out by fundies long ago. Saying Jah and making music with Rastas doesn't make them Rastas. Actually a real fundy "King James Only" website, AV1611.org, did bring up this very issue about them being Rastafarians back in the late 90's when POD was just becoming major in Christian Rock and also crossing over into the secular charts. I was very into them at that time along with Project 86 and Living Sacrifice and remember being somewhat alarmed when I read that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RintrahRoars Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 If P.O.D. are Rastas then Living Sacrifice are demon-possessed Satanists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesususedpeyote Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Haven't really listened to this band for a long time, but that's cool about the F-bomb. When I was christian this was a major influence, along with fuckin' relient K and Pillar. I can actually still listen to a little bit of P.O.D. today, can't say the same for the other christian music. I even tried listening to Pillar a few months ago, can't believe I liked that mediocre shit. And, I was always under the impression that the dude does say Jah for short for Jehovah. But I do think the vocalist smokes weed, though, and christians tend to not like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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