Storm Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 So I watched my first Ray Comfort video this morning. It was "Evolution vs. God". I have to say that it was truly the most stupid thing I think I have ever seen. Putting people who believe in evolution on the spot and basically editing the whole movie to make them look dumb and like they didn't know what they were talking about. If you went out and did the same thing with Christians, you wouldn't have to do much editing. The vast majority of Christians do not know much about their own religion, let alone evolution. I also had a friend post a blog of Ken Hamm and I got to see how uninformed and ignorant he is. Its one thing to believe in biblegod for various reasons, but I find that belief that the earth is only 6-10 thousand years old is ludicrous. Just go outside at night and look at a star. The light you are seeing is millions of years old. How is that not easy to understand? I just don't get it. It is becoming more and more apparent to me that Christianity is a religion of convenience. It is much easier to just go through the motions and believe willy nilly stuff then to actually do the work yourself. Its much easier to blame a devil or demonic activity than to accept responsibility for your actions, or to make it so that you can try to logically explain why people are whack jobs and do horrible things to other people. To quote Dr. Cox: "People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling" Pure craziness. Pure craziness! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gall Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 So I watched my first Ray Comfort video this morning. It was "Evolution vs. God". I have to say that it was truly the most stupid thing I think I have ever seen. Putting people who believe in evolution on the spot and basically editing the whole movie to make them look dumb and like they didn't know what they were talking about. If you went out and did the same thing with Christians, you wouldn't have to do much editing. The vast majority of Christians do not know much about their own religion, let alone evolution. I also had a friend post a blog of Ken Hamm and I got to see how uninformed and ignorant he is. Its one thing to believe in biblegod for various reasons, but I find that belief that the earth is only 6-10 thousand years old is ludicrous. Just go outside at night and look at a star. The light you are seeing is millions of years old. How is that not easy to understand? I just don't get it. It is becoming more and more apparent to me that Christianity is a religion of convenience. It is much easier to just go through the motions and believe willy nilly stuff then to actually do the work yourself. Its much easier to blame a devil or demonic activity than to accept responsibility for your actions, or to make it so that you can try to logically explain why people are whack jobs and do horrible things to other people. To quote Dr. Cox: "People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling" Pure craziness. Pure craziness! People can make video's like this all day every day and it does not defeat the creditable science done on evolution for decades and decades. It is still ongoing and one can easily educate themselves in it with countless books and internet sources that would be sure to tantalize and illuminate. Problem with asshats like these is they live in a mental closet filled with decaying antiques and circular arguments. you use the word easier here I would use the word WEAK. It is weak AND easy to blame all those things rather than man for our issues and then just sort of hear no evil see no evil sort of monkey bullshit the rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fweethawt Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Ray Comfort sounds like a pornstar name. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gall Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Ray Comfort sounds like a pornstar name. I would call these kinds of video's porn for the religious. The way the religious define porn (not just the sex kind) basically is the same way they pour over their own texts and documents and what I am guessing they think is their fun religiuos paraphanalia. God forbid you own another type of paraphanalia and they find out... Could we call this a dildo for god? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryper Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 This is really all you need to know 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Holy hell... and that guy was serious! Almighty Creator we thank you for this domesticated fruit as a distinct and infallible testament of your divine intervention, how my soul leaps in splendor when I place my eyes upon this banana and realize, oh God, that you truly care for us. And a little opening tab? No squirting contents? HALLELUJAH! You know you're a damned goober when whitey-white ultra-fundie Kirk Cameron even laughs at you. Seriously Mr. Comfort, we didn't need you to make an 'O' face to explain to us how a banana fits into a mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantophobia Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 The Ray Comfort Banana Porn is still one of the most WTF things I've ever seen on the internet. And I've seen Goatsie, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddick Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 You know you're a damned goober when whitey-white ultra-fundie Kirk Cameron even laughs at you. Seriously Mr. Comfort, we didn't need you to make an 'O' face to explain to us how a banana fits into a mouth. You could use the same argument with a dick, i guess that makes him pro homosexuality, to hell with him!!! I've never seen a bigger ignorant fool than Mr Ray Comfort, he spends all of his time trying to disprove Evolution that he doesn't even try to prove God's existence, other than 'look at this wonderful World" or 'Everything has to have a creator, therefore God'. If you want to see a brilliant debate watch this one. Aron Ra Vs Ray Comfort Aron exposes what an stupid ignorant fool Ray Comfort is. I think i'm finally coming to the conclusion that Ray and his buddy Kirk Cameron are deceiving everyone, i don't think they believe any of it, i think they are both in it for the money, tax-free money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddick Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Also, i don't know if this is true or not, but this video shows the stupidity of Ray Comfort, take it for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExCBooster Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I have provided a soundtrack for this post: Yes! We have no bananas. I just thought I'd point out that the domestic banana is probably one of the WORST examples he could have chosen for his "perfect design" argument. Every single aspect of it refutes the point he was trying to make: 1. Both wild parent species of the domestic banana have huge seeds inside their small ugly fruits. Convenient? Not unless you want to crack a molar. 2. The banana we all know and love is a sterile hybrid of two different banana species, anyway - it just literally can't make it in the wild without our help. 3. We propagate them by vegetative cloning - this is also why I don't get people's objections along the "playing God" lines to cloning and such, we've been messing with genes and cloning stuff for literally thousands of years. Just ask your dog. Gardeners clone stuff all the time, we call it division or cuttings. Let's not even get into the Dr. Frankenstein experiments we call grafting. Sometimes, when I'm really low, I imagine all those Convicted, Godly, Righteous people who flip out over things like this, pottering around their garden and selecting genes and cloning the HECK out of those begonias (it's easy, just take a cutting, strip the leaves off the lower bits, and stick 'em in water. When they grow roots, plant them). 4. As for that stem pull-tab thing... Protip - it's also easier to peel a banana from the bottom, not the stem side. I didn't figure that one out until my brother told me about it a year or so ago... The "twist the stem" thing is cultural. Sheesh, other banana cultivars aren't even bred for raw peeling, like plantains, for example. You have to boil or steam them first. That's one advantage other primates have... they don't just blindly "ape" what they've been taught. Cool study on this: Part 1. Part 2. Good thing? Doing exactly what we're shown means it's possible to do really complex things. Bad side? We do it the complicated way, sometimes when we don't have to, instead of reasoning through it ourselves... This makes banana stem-first peeling a perfect example of one of the more interesting hallmarks of human evolution. So, watching Ray Comfort go for the stem anyway... just points out yet another step in our evolution, and the way it took a different path than our chimpanzee cousins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelus5370 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 So I watched my first Ray Comfort video this morning. It was "Evolution vs. God". I have to say that it was truly the most stupid thing I think I have ever seen. Putting people who believe in evolution on the spot and basically editing the whole movie to make them look dumb and like they didn't know what they were talking about. If you went out and did the same thing with Christians, you wouldn't have to do much editing. The vast majority of Christians do not know much about their own religion, let alone evolution. I also had a friend post a blog of Ken Hamm and I got to see how uninformed and ignorant he is. Its one thing to believe in biblegod for various reasons, but I find that belief that the earth is only 6-10 thousand years old is ludicrous. Just go outside at night and look at a star. The light you are seeing is millions of years old. How is that not easy to understand? I just don't get it. It is becoming more and more apparent to me that Christianity is a religion of convenience. It is much easier to just go through the motions and believe willy nilly stuff then to actually do the work yourself. Its much easier to blame a devil or demonic activity than to accept responsibility for your actions, or to make it so that you can try to logically explain why people are whack jobs and do horrible things to other people. To quote Dr. Cox: "People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling" Pure craziness. Pure craziness! How can you tell or prove a star is millions of years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 OMG that is the dumbest video ever. no evolution therefore JESUS. Argument from ignorance at it finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 How can you tell or prove a star is millions of years old?We can measure the distance to the stars, and we know the speed of light, therefore we know how long ago the light from the star was emitted, i.e how long ago the star existed. Granted, all stars could be gone at this moment and we wouldn't know for another million of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BendyLine Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Ray Comfort is so over the top with his stupidity that sometimes I think it's all an act to get money and attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 So I watched my first Ray Comfort video this morning. It was "Evolution vs. God". I have to say that it was truly the most stupid thing I think I have ever seen. Putting people who believe in evolution on the spot and basically editing the whole movie to make them look dumb and like they didn't know what they were talking about. If you went out and did the same thing with Christians, you wouldn't have to do much editing. The vast majority of Christians do not know much about their own religion, let alone evolution. I also had a friend post a blog of Ken Hamm and I got to see how uninformed and ignorant he is. Its one thing to believe in biblegod for various reasons, but I find that belief that the earth is only 6-10 thousand years old is ludicrous. Just go outside at night and look at a star. The light you are seeing is millions of years old. How is that not easy to understand? I just don't get it. It is becoming more and more apparent to me that Christianity is a religion of convenience. It is much easier to just go through the motions and believe willy nilly stuff then to actually do the work yourself. Its much easier to blame a devil or demonic activity than to accept responsibility for your actions, or to make it so that you can try to logically explain why people are whack jobs and do horrible things to other people. To quote Dr. Cox: "People are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling" Pure craziness. Pure craziness! How can you tell or prove a star is millions of years old? Before I provide you with information which will help you find the evidence, methodology and science behind this question, I request that you answer one simple question first: Are the physical and mathematical laws (such as gravity, strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force, addition, subtraction, etc.) which exist on Earth the same as exist in M31 (a galaxy in the constellation Andromeda)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExCBooster Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 We know how old individual stars are, because we can measure the distance to them, and therefore how long the light took to get here. The speed of light in a vacuum is about 3 X 108 meters per second (that's really fast). There's another step, too: we can analyse the spectrum of light from the star, which tells us its composition, and with the distance to the star and its luminance, use the time it would take to fuse all of its nuclear fuel and run out of energy to tell how old the star is and where in its life-cycle it is. OUR star is about 8 light minutes away (the distance light can travel in 8 minutes). And we know what's in it, by looking at the spectrum of light it produces, so we can tell our sun is in the middle of its life, about 5 billion years old. These nuclear reactions are very precisely predictable, so we know that this is likely the ultimate fate of our sun. (The Earth will be LONG gone by then.) So: distance (as a function of speed of light and time, or parallax, or other methods - like the Standard Candle approach), then use the spectrum to see what it's made of, and how far along it is in its "life", you can deduce from these the size of the star, and then, with all this known, you can tell how old a star is, since the nuclear physics of these huge fusion reactions is well known and predictable. Now, I think what you really mean, is how do we know how old the universe is. By looking as deep into space as we can, we can see the background radiation of the Big Bang. By carefully measuring it, and analysing the data, we can tell more clearly what the initial conditions were, and therefore use the laws of physics to deduce how long ago the universe started, and its initial state. That's what the famous WMAP mission was for. Read about it here! So, we can actually tell the age of the universe to a reasonably precise degree: it's 13.77 Billion years old. (To within 0.5%). In short, the same way you can tell how long it took your cousins who live out of state to drive to visit you at the family reunion. We know the speed, and the distance covered, we can know the time it takes. And we do know the speed of light, and distance, therefore age. But, because scientists like to be thorough, they usually check all these factors with different tests, and confirm the age by independent means, so that they can be really sure. For a nearby star, check distance by parallax, in addition to luminance, spectrum, and using the speed of light. So, there's lots of options, really. Sing it with me! They Might be Giants: Why Does the Sun Shine? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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