♦ nivek ♦ Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051221-121224-6972r.htm Military chaplains told to shy from Jesus By Julia Duin THE WASHINGTON TIMES December 21, 2005 To pray -- or not to pray -- in Jesus' name is the question plaguing an increasing number of U.S. military chaplains, one of whom began a multiday hunger strike outside the White House yesterday. "I am a Navy chaplain being fired because I pray in Jesus' name," said Navy Lt. Gordon Klingenschmitt, who will be holding 6 p.m. prayer vigils daily in Lafayette Park. The hunger strike is intended to persuade President Bush to issue an executive order allowing military chaplains to pray according to their individual faith traditions. The American Center for Law and Justice has gathered 173,000 signatures on a petition seeking an executive order. Seventy-three members of Congress have joined the request, saying in an Oct. 25 letter to the president, "In all branches of the military, it is becoming increasingly difficult for Christian chaplains to use the name of Jesus when praying." About 80 percent of U.S. troops are Christian, the legislators wrote, adding that military "censorship" of chaplains' prayers disenfranchises "hundreds of thousands of Christian soldiers in the military who look to their chaplains for comfort, inspiration and support." Official military policy allows any sort of prayer, but Lt. Klingenschmitt says that in reality, evangelical Protestant prayers are censored. He cites his training at the Navy Chaplains School in Newport, R.I., where "they have clipboards and evaluators who evaluate your prayers, and they praise you if you pray just to God," he said. "But if you pray in Jesus' name, they counsel you." Muslim, Jewish and Roman Catholic chaplains are likewise told not to pray in the name of Allah, in Hebrew or in the name of the Trinity, he added. But the Rev. Billy Baugham, executive director of the Greenville, S.C.-based International Conference of Evangelical Chaplain Endorsers, says restrictions on other religious expressions have "yet to be tested." "No Islamic chaplain has been refused to pray in the name of Allah, as far as we know. Neither has a rabbi been rebuked for making references to Hanukkah, and no Catholic priest has been rebuked for referring to the Blessed Virgin Mary." The Navy allows chaplains to pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Allah or any other deity during chapel services, spokeswoman Lt. Erin Bailey said. At other public events, "Navy chaplains are encouraged to be sensitive to the needs of all those present," she said, "and may decline an invitation to pray if not able to do so for conscience reasons." Lt. Klingenschmitt has not been formally punished, she added, and there are no plans to take him off active duty. However, the lieutenant contends that he may lose his job next month and be evicted from military housing. He says he got in hot water during the summer of 2004 while aboard the USS Anzio for preaching an evangelistic sermon at the funeral of a Catholic sailor in a base chapel. The lieutenant said he was reprimanded by two senior chaplains and, in March, sent ashore to Norfolk. Lt. Klingenschmitt also has fought at other times for the religious rights of non-Christians, having backed a Jewish sailor's bid to get kosher meals and sought to include a Muslim seaman in the rotation of sailors offering the ship's nightly closing prayer. The lieutenant is not alone in fighting to pray to Jesus. The Navy is facing two lawsuits, filed in 1999 and 2000, by 50 Christian chaplains, saying the Navy discriminates against evangelical and Pentecostal clerics. Mr. Baugham said the 350 chaplains he oversees are concerned about a new set of guidelines issued in August after complaints about Christian evangelism at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. The Air Force guidelines allow "a brief, nonsectarian prayer" during military ceremonies "to add a heightened sense of seriousness or solemnity, not to advance specific religious beliefs." "So, to what deity do you address your prayer to?" Mr. Baugham asked. "No one knows. And who gets to write the prayers? Once the government becomes the approving authority, the poor chaplain is forced to be an agent of the state." Mr. Baugham said he had "just got a call from an Army chaplain in Iraq who says he'd be hammered if he used Jesus' name. Chaplains are scared to death. They must clear their prayers with their commanders, they can mention Jesus' name at chapel services, but not outside that context." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Heaven for Kevin Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 These jackasses are so "ate up". Chaplains are supposed to cater to soldiers of all beliefs, and they are not supposed to promote their own faith. In other words, it's about the soldiers they are serving, not about them. This Navy guy needs to get back to taking care of his troops, and stop jerking us off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sage Nabooru Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 I disagree. In actuality, the chaplains are only supposed to serve those members of the military whose faith they share. Thus, a Muslim chaplain wouldn't minister to a Christian soldier, and vice-versa. So what's the point of having the chaplains of different religions if those chaplains are not allowed to call on the God of those religions when in the company of soldiers asking them to do so with them? If there was one chaplain serving the entire armed forces, or if the chaplains each served a variety of faiths, then I could understand. But when you have a chaplain for each religion, each one is to practice that religion with those soldiers sharing that respective religion, and be allowed the full right to do so among those whom he is there to serve. Not among others - I wholly support the prohibition of proseletyzing among members of different faiths (and different lacks thereof) in the military and elsewhere - but ministers ministering peacefully among their own brethren should be allowed to do so without such petty restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixentrox Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Umm, chaplians are there to serve military members of any faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sage Nabooru Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 If a chaplain is working and in demand among soldiers of a seperate faith, then no, he shouldn't call on a specific deity of his own religion seperate from the soldiers'. But, if he is working among his own religious group, then he should be allowed to pray with them as they do. That means if a Christian chaplain is among Christians (as is usually the case), or if a Muslim chaplain is working among Muslims, then he should be able to call on the God of that respective faith. There are a variety of religious chaplains in the military. The four biggest faiths in the military are the most represented: Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and Buddhism. A chaplain whose faith differs from that of a soldier requesting a chaplain is only called upon in that case if there is no chaplain that works in the soldier's faith available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDee Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051221-121224-6972r.htm "No one knows. And who gets to write the prayers? Once the government becomes the approving authority, the poor chaplain is forced to be an agent of the state." Did the moron forget who is paying his salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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