beverly Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 It's Christmas, and I just can't help myself I really want it to be the way it is supposed to be Christ, Christmas but the plain hard reality is -- it just ain't that way christians are hate mongering churches have turned into corruption pastors load peoples heads with crap and pick their pockets just to fly big jets and have big kingdoms they knock peoples head full of conjure and call that "the holy ghost" I am sitting here really wanting it to be Christmas which it could be , if it were not for the 70 million christians out there, pouring forth "the trib" on the world Beverly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandora Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 I can relate... I was thinking the same kinds of things at the service tonight. Having not stepped in a church since my wedding two years ago (except a Unitarian one), I had forgotten how much MONEY is in these places and people. However, we went to a liberal mainline church. Since my husband had talked to the pastor more than once, he knew that he was a liberal Christian... but to see him tonight playing the orthodox, traditional card just because he has to.. because it's Christmas... it made my stomach turn. They pastor who married us (at a large downtown Methodist church) didn't even believe in the divinity of Jesus. Maybe if the ministers and pastors out there who know better would preach their conscience and not to fill seats for their pocketbooks, then maybe Christianity could transform into something that is palatable. Part of me thinks that IF a pastor decided to do this--preach the human Jesus that is taught in seminary and in scholarly circles, pay attention to historical and biblical criticism, and throw away the dogmas of old--- that this guy would have no problem filling his pews. Think of the scandal... and then the awareness it would raise. I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ nivek ♦ Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 beverly... My advise from the Kontrol Centre hacindaFatman? Enjoy the pagentry, the time of year, your personal or family traditions. Have fun with the things tht you like to do this time of year. Don't allow the shit and shinola of *them* dictate what you *need to be doing*, or worse *oughtabe thunkin'* Part of not being involved in the borg/morg/Xorg/JWorg/EtcOrg is that you get to choose what is right for you and yours. You no longer answer to the first Frozen Chozen Church of Miserly Buttfaces "Christmas Joy and Decoration Society" guidelines.. Kick back best you can, enjoy life, smoke a good ceegar, drink a good drink of your flavor, and know that doing as you damn well please isn't gonna piss bibullgohWd and his krowd off anymore.. I'd wishya "Peace", but in my world that only comes from a lack of strife. May the year's end grant you relief from strife and turmoil for a few days in the least, and hopefully for the rest of year. kevinL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigToe Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 Yeah I agree with what nivek said. Don't let other people ruin what would otherwise be a nice day for you. People are out to be hypocritical in every way possible and you won't be able to turn a corner without finding one of them. So just do what you want to do and have fun doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beverly Posted December 28, 2005 Author Share Posted December 28, 2005 Love you both I am going to run right out for a bottle of crown royal I am hoping Santa will bring me an IRS agent, or maybe someone from the Attorney Generals office or some sort of other big shot that will shut down the local pentecostal church group, and put that evangelist guy in prison fraud, money laundering, it's all there with me, it's not a malfunction on my part they just happen to be in the neighborhood raise hell play god etc. and it is not a case of "let them" who needs it??? beverly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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