★ Citsonga ★ Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Here's an interesting blog on how the Hebrews didn't exist before Canaan. It's not new information, but it's still a good read and could be helpful for some. Enjoy! http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessindixie/2018/02/18/none-really-happened/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=BRSS&utm_campaign=Nonreligious&utm_content=354 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsathoggua9 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 You're right, that was a good and fascinating read. Thanks for sharing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Joshpantera Posted February 21, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 2/19/2018 at 7:31 PM, Citsonga said: Here's an interesting blog on how the Hebrews didn't exist before Canaan. It's not new information, but it's still a good read and could be helpful for some. Enjoy! http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessindixie/2018/02/18/none-really-happened/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=BRSS&utm_campaign=Nonreligious&utm_content=354 This is a good article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LogicalFallacy Posted February 21, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 21, 2018 Good article, aligns with all the research I've conducted independently by reading scholar's. He mentions William Dever - another great archaeologist regarding Israel's origin is Israel Finkelstein who co-wrote The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ Fuego ♦ Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I just read some of the Amazon reviews of that book. It is fascinating to see how some people will simply attack as not science, not history, fake news, etc, anything that shows a conclusion other than their own beliefs. They will take the bible at face value, but any work that contradicts it with "here's what we've actually found after centuries of looking" is dismissed as an agenda. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 2/19/2018 at 4:31 PM, Citsonga said: Here's an interesting blog on how the Hebrews didn't exist before Canaan. It's not new information, but it's still a good read and could be helpful for some. Enjoy! http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessindixie/2018/02/18/none-really-happened/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=BRSS&utm_campaign=Nonreligious&utm_content=354 That is our old pal "Godless in Dixie". He use to come here from time to time. I think the blog entry is great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Joshpantera Posted February 22, 2018 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2018 19 hours ago, mymistake said: That is our old pal "Godless in Dixie". He use to come here from time to time. I think the blog entry is great. Well no wonder. I guess that's what he was referring to, at least in part, about hanging with atheists. And intermingling with christ myth theory proponents among those atheist's. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Joshpantera said: Well no wonder. I guess that's what he was referring to, at least in part, about hanging with atheists. And intermingling with christ myth theory proponents among those atheist's. lol Joke: If a group of birds is called a flock and a group of cattle is called a heard what do you call 35 historically established, first-century, Palestinian men who were all named Jesus? (A myth of Jesus) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.B. Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Let one tiny, inconsequential, circumstantial evidence get discovered that SEEMINGLY "proves" a Bible story, and the Christians will go apeshit and probably build a freaking museum around it. Let THOUSANDS of hours of research, digging and archaeological and literary research be conducted that shows NO proof of any of these stories, or even DISproves them, and all of a sudden it's "fake news" or an attack on their precious beliefs. Why not just let the facts speak for themselves? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 32 minutes ago, L.B. said: Let one tiny, inconsequential, circumstantial evidence get discovered that SEEMINGLY "proves" a Bible story, and the Christians will go apeshit and probably build a freaking museum around it. Let THOUSANDS of hours of research, digging and archaeological and literary research be conducted that shows NO proof of any of these stories, or even DISproves them, and all of a sudden it's "fake news" or an attack on their precious beliefs. Why not just let the facts speak for themselves? Religion is all about faith & beliefs. If evidence & facts are required then faith is nullified & lack of faith is a sin unto death. Therefore all "evidence" is from the Devil and believing the Devil will cost a believer their soul. Religions dogma has all their bases covered. They actually have a rather brilliant plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeniorCitizen007 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 In the 1950s an Israeli author pointed out that the recently discovered clay tablet archives of the Hurrian speaking peoples of Northern Mesopotamia (the region where Abraham came from) contained details of laws and customs practically identical to those described in the Bible at the time of Abraham. The Hurrians were not Semites ... but they did have Semitic groups in their midst. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Most likely the Hebrews were just a sect of Cananites that moved south, perhaps marrying with another tribe in the area. They took their religion with them, but later evolved a different name for the chief deity, Yahweh instead of El. Funny, there is El-Elyon in the Bible but no "El-Yahweh." Kind of like how Jesus is often referred to as "the son of Theos" but never once "the son of the Kurios" (Lord). There was great significance to the differences in these titles that Christianity later mashed together. The Ras Shama texts document authentic Bronze Age Canaanite/Hebrew religion. The Bible's texts are much later -- no earlier than 500 BCE, and represent a rationalizing tendency that authentic Bronze Age religions don't have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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