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In Catholic Italy, ‘de-baptism’ is gaining popularity


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(RNS) — Though data is sparse, the church and Italian atheists agree that the 2-decade-old process is becoming more common.

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On 11/16/2021 at 3:31 PM, webmdave said:

(RNS) — Though data is sparse, the church and Italian atheists agree that the 2-decade-old process is becoming more common.

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Very interesting! 

 

We had our memberships removed from the SDA church. Same difference pretty much. I'm de-baptized out of the church as it were...

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Interesting concerning Italy. I expect it will be a movement that slowly moves around the world. Hope it also takes off in the Jewish and Moslem worlds.

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7 hours ago, pantheory said:

Interesting concerning Italy. I expect it will be a movement that slowly moves around the world. Hope it also takes off in the Jewish and Moslem worlds.

 

In a liberal, mostly secular democracy like Italy renouncing your faith carries no state-imposed penalty.

 

But that is not the case in much of the Muslim world.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

 

As of 2014, there were eight Muslim-majority countries where apostasy from Islam was punishable by death, and another  thirteen where there were penal or civil penalties such as jail, fines or loss of child custody. From 1985 to 2006, only four individuals were officially executed by governments for apostasy from Islam and that also for unrelated political charges, but apostates have suffered from other legal and vigilante punishments -- imprisonment, annulment of marriage, loss of rights of inheritance and custody of children. Mainly, loss of life has come from killings by "takfiri" insurgents (ISIL, GIA, Taliban).

 

Along with these penalties any Muslim publicly renouncing their faith will most likely face ostracization by their family and friends, disinheritance and shunning by the rest of their community. 

 

So, while I agree with your sentiments Pantheory, I really can't see it happening in any large way in the Muslim world.

 

Thank you.

 

Walter.

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8 hours ago, walterpthefirst said:

 

In a liberal, mostly secular democracy like Italy renouncing your faith carries no state-imposed penalty.

 

But that is not the case in much of the Muslim world..........................................

 

So, while I agree with your sentiments Pantheory, I really can't see it happening in any large way in the Muslim world.

 

Thank you.

 

Walter.

 

 

Turkey is legally secular. Maybe it will start to happen there.

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Turkey, Istanbul, Ankara -- in many ways is more western appearing and behaviors more western than New York City. I spent months there. Like here, some are interested in religion but the majority never talk about it in the cities and scarfs for women are optional. No religious personal symbols of any kind are allowed to be openly warn. First you would get a warning, then a ticket and fine. After the first offense they can confiscate your item (jewelry). Although religious freedom is allowed, almost all are Moslem there because Christian Turks were allowed free passage to Greece after the first world war. Morals in Turkey are at a much higher level than they are in NY city, based upon the behaviors that I saw.

 

https://www.netflix.com/watch/80176234?trackId=15035895&tctx=3%2C0%2Ca3c09711-d48a-4ef2-9d70-53c2a8c81315-782086228%2Cbd8cf253-25f2-485e-a1c1-ac4debb663b7_293948486X54XX1637686873049%2Cbd8cf253-25f2-485e-a1c1-ac4debb663b7_ROOT%2C

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Turkey

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7533846/mediaviewer/rm1137858816/

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Picture of Ataturk on their present-day money, Turkey's George Washington -- circa 1928.

 

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100,000 Turkish Lira

$7,862.00 US

 

https://secularhumanism.org/2017/09/cont-atatuumlrk-triumphed-over-religion/

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