Onyx Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I'm taking that in. I'll also read Judges 19, for the ultimate effect. Because that's fooking digusting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taphophilia Posted April 14, 2006 Author Share Posted April 14, 2006 My son was looking for dirty Bible verses to read while the other kids were reading. He knew they were there because I told them they were. He knew that there would be consequenses for it, so it wasn't a big deal for him to get a time out. He was glad to take the time out for the desired affect. Actually, I like my kids to go to church when they have the opportunity to do so. I believe they learn very valuable lessons from church. 1. We live in a society that is Christian based and I believe that at least knowing about it is important. I can teach my kids, but I want them to get knowledge about it from those who believe. They will be prepared and know what they are like when confronted by them in life. 2. All that church does for them is confirm how stupid the beliefs are, especially when they start talking about Creationism and present their circular arguements to the kids. "God did it", is not an acceptable explaination for origins of life. Now that my girls are teens, they tell them that being a virgin for your husband will ensure a happy and lasting marriage. 3. It teaches them that adults are not always right and you don't have to believe or do what they say just because they are adults. Here are my reasons why I don't want my kids near a church, let alone go to a service. 1. The services only provide the verses that make Christianity look "good." It's full of lies and a the way they brainwash people. 2. Most of my family along with the world are Christians and will provide an ample amount of experience with how the religion works. Not to mention the countless popular religious turning secular holidays. 3. I can ensure that he learns all every fact of all religions. If I teach him at home, he will know the entire history and not just a few verses. 4. Too many children have been sexually abused in church. (anyone get freethought today?) 5. Ms. O'Hare sent her oldest to church in hopes of educating him about Christianity. She has been quoted as saying "it was a mistake." My oldest is 4 and he knows about Jesus, God, Zeus, unicorns, fairies, mermaids, dinosaurs, the human body, Hercules, ghosts, angels and a few other things. He's fascinated with dinosaurs and the human body. He knows exactly where babies come from. If you ask him he will tell you "babies come from a woman's uterus. Because the sperm gets inside the egg." I haven't gotten him to recite the entire alphabet or read but he knows this. Kids! He also knows all about the uvula. It's his favorite part of the body. He has made up two words and is fascinated with all life (animals, plants and so on). I like to think he's just living up to his name sake, Epicurus. My youngest is 11 and has his opinoins already established. He made the choice to go, I gave him permisison. So, getting the other side is only going to enforce what they have been taught at home. If they were younger, I would never let them go. I wouldn't feel safe about a young child going to church. If they are not mature enough and can't make good decisions for themselves, they'll crash and burn. You are teaching your child critical thinking skills whether you know it or not. Good for you! Taph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Do you know how I was atheist? I learned it on my own, which took a while but I broke out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taphophilia Posted April 14, 2006 Author Share Posted April 14, 2006 Do you know how I was atheist? I learned it on my own, which took a while but I broke out of it. Good for you Onyx! (Still not used to your name change yet.) Taph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEMtron Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 so which passage did he read specifically? im going to teach all kids i know to read that passage along with the very descriptive story of the 2 sister who went around f.c.u.k.ing everyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheistMommy Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 My youngest is 11 and has his opinoins already established. He made the choice to go, I gave him permisison. So, getting the other side is only going to enforce what they have been taught at home. If they were younger, I would never let them go. I wouldn't feel safe about a young child going to church. If they are not mature enough and can't make good decisions for themselves, they'll crash and burn. You are teaching your child critical thinking skills whether you know it or not. Good for you! Taph I've had a few Christians ask me if I was going to teach my children to be Atheists and what I'd do if they turned out to be Christian because of my Atheism. I don't think there is any way to actually teach someone how not to believe in all gods and goddesses. I mean, not in the same way you teach someone how to believe in God. He learns indirectly about Atheism just from living with me and his daddy. But I thought about the "what if" and I'd love him even if he turned religious on me. I'm just hopping that's not going to happen till he's well in his twenties, if ever. Do you ever think about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughtyhamster Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Maybe he needs his own OT Bible and read Ezekiel 23:20-21 about Jezebel preferring guys with big schlongs ( like what guy would have one the size of a donkey's?) to his fundie friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taphophilia Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 My youngest is 11 and has his opinoins already established. He made the choice to go, I gave him permisison. So, getting the other side is only going to enforce what they have been taught at home. If they were younger, I would never let them go. I wouldn't feel safe about a young child going to church. If they are not mature enough and can't make good decisions for themselves, they'll crash and burn. You are teaching your child critical thinking skills whether you know it or not. Good for you! Taph I've had a few Christians ask me if I was going to teach my children to be Atheists and what I'd do if they turned out to be Christian because of my Atheism. I don't think there is any way to actually teach someone how not to believe in all gods and goddesses. I mean, not in the same way you teach someone how to believe in God. He learns indirectly about Atheism just from living with me and his daddy. But I thought about the "what if" and I'd love him even if he turned religious on me. I'm just hopping that's not going to happen till he's well in his twenties, if ever. Do you ever think about that? I think in many cases, the reason that people become Christians (if they are not raised in the religion) is because they are emotionally needy. It fills a void of unconditional love, even if it is imaginary. As long as someone has a healthy sense of self, they don't need to look for it outside themselves. Teaching kids to have self esteem and to trust their own decisions and opinoins is a way NOT to have them sucked into a cult like Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Just goes to show that most Christians don't know their own Bibles all that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willybilly30 Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 shit i looked up that verse i never read it. and christians have the damn nerve to condem us for looking at porn. i never read the old testement i never read that far anyway. the bibles full of sex stories and other stuff christians would rather ignore. Maybe he needs his own OT Bible and read Ezekiel 23:20-21 about Jezebel preferring guys with big schlongs ( like what guy would have one the size of a donkey's?) to his fundie friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunraveler Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 i did something similiar when i read lev 15:16 aloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEMtron Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Maybe he needs his own OT Bible and read Ezekiel 23:20-21 about Jezebel preferring guys with big schlongs ( like what guy would have one the size of a donkey's?) to his fundie friends. hahahah exactly the passage i was talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abiyoyo Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 My 11 year old son is a confirmed Athiest. He was five when I started my deconvertion and unlike his sisters has never believed in Christianity. He knows about it, but from the side of disbelief. My son only has Christians to pick as his friends. His favorite thing to say when they try to tell him about the bible and Jesus is, "prove it". Some of the kids go to a Wed night service and invited my son to go, telling my son it would be fun and games. Although, we know it's just a trick to get the kids there to brainwash them. He wanted to hang out with his friends so he went. While in the class the teacher asked the kids to read their favorite bible stories from the bible. My poor son, not having a bible, was generously given one by the teacher for his very own to keep. The kids all took turns reading their favorite Bible stories, and when it was my sons turn, he read selected passages from.... "Song of Soloman" Flustered, when my son read about crotch hairs being like wool, the teacher would not even let my son finish reading the BIBLE. She grabbed my sons new bible away from him that she had so generously given him and told him he had a time out, just for reading out of the Bible! Though, later that night she did give my son another Bible, a New Testament only Bible. Thats fucking funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEMtron Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 im surprised your son got a time-out... xtians says the songs of solomon is a complete prophecy and reference to jesus. Songs of Solomon, verse by verse Jesus translation excerpt: In the first chapter, the King visits his vineyard and gets in love with a humble vineyard keeper... the King is God, the vineyard is his Church, the humble girl is your soul... Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth- for your love is more delightful than wine. (1:2)... Lover: How beautiful you are, my darling! Oh, how beautiful! Your eyes are doves (1:15)... Beloved: How handsome you are, my lover! Oh, how charming! And our bed is verdant. (1:16)... the day we met Jesus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosingMyReligion Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Your son is so my hero...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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