nirrti Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 The other day, I was at the bus stop on my way to work. I happen to overhear the conversation between this guy and this lady (apparently both Christians) about the role of computers in the "end times". The guy said something to the effect of how people don't talk to each other anymore. "We're so busy talking to our computers we don't talk to each other anymore. How can you talk to a computer? A computer can't talk back. It's just a piece of machinery," he went on. He then started quoting a bunch of bible verses supposedly predicting how technology would tear down families and relationships. So I guess the support and encouragement I've gotten here has been from a bunch of machines who can't "talk back". And since machines can't talk, maybe all those lively debates and conversations I've had online were just Satan and his evil influence. Oh well. What else can I expect from a town where they want to teach creationism in schools yet most don't even know how to turn on a computer? (I really need to get away from this town before I start loosing I.Q. points. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueGiant Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hey my computer talks to me, frequently in shades of blue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JP Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Oh, for Christ's sake. These people are ridiculous. Certainly people I wouldn't want to spend eternity with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelyn Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Speaking of computers, but slightly off topic, how well I remember (and wish I could forget) the stories I heard as a youngin' that there was a big computer being built in Europe that was the tech equivalent of big brother, oooooo! So, round about way of saying there is always something you can try to explain away by scripture or twist scripture around to attempt to prove your point..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 whats that shakespeare quote the devil isnt above using scripture to advance his cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I overheard a similar discussion in a doctor's waiting room - "The Internets are evil blah blah blah. They do nothing but spread porn blah blah blah." The rant was so idiotic that I wished I had a tape recorder - would have made good comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luck Mermaid Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I once heard two people talking about how it`s okay to kill animals to eat them, as long as athey are treated well, and that`s exactly what happens in the US. They talked about how there were isolated incidents of people being cruel to farm animals and they were punished for making them suffer. They reassured themselves that god made non-humanimals (though they just called them ``animals``) so that humans could have meat to eat. They reassured each other that the vast amounts of animal products produced are done in a way that is safe and caring for them, and certainly not detrimental to other species. They made sure to keep the doubt of their right to raise, kill and eat animals was not `the natural order`and was sanctioned by god (kind of like when homer tells vegetarian Lisa - if animals weren`t meant to be eaten, then why are they made of meat?) The point here is not whether eating animals is wrong, but all the real questions they had a ready defense for, and all the other questions you`ve formed a defense for as you already put in place as you read the above paragraph. You will reassure yourself, as they did, in the guise of an easygoing or `ethical` conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willybilly30 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 i heard www on webpages is 666 somehow. i wonder if everything that exists theirs a christian saying its from satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtdude Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 The other day, I was at the bus stop on my way to work. I happen to overhear the conversation between this guy and this lady (apparently both Christians) .....(I really need to get away from this town before I start loosing I.Q. points. ) Hahahaha! I guess that's why I listen to a walkman all the time. Overhearning retarded conversations just depresses me. I'd much rather listen to Chaka Khan belting out some disco number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 i heard www on webpages is 666 somehow. i wonder if everything that exists theirs a christian saying its from satan. That's a new one. How the heck is WWW translated to 666? By writing it like VI VI VI? (Roman numbers, but it doesn't look like W...) Or W is the 23rd character, if you add one to it, makes 24, which is 6*4. Add one because it's one Anti Christ, and 4 is the 4 corners of Earth (of course), but you have to remove the 4 because Earth doesn't really have corners, so it's only the 6 left. Tada! Hmm. Other ways to make WWW to 666... Turn them upside down, MMM, which is the 13th character, and now you (of course, using Christian math) subtract 1, and get 12 which is 6*2, and 2 is for the 2 bread loafers Jesus squeezed at the last supper. Or maybe the two donkeys he rode on into Jerusalem? But the loafers are gone (they ate them all), and the donkeys are dead, so it's only the 6 left. Come on guys, how can WWW become 666? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taphophilia Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I got it. www is three letters and 666 is three numbers. 3 X 2 = 6, So, W = 6 and WWW=666. and I thought it meant World Wide Web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willybilly30 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 i have no idea. next time i hear junk like this i should say prove it. or something else that word seems to scare christians here. in this town you hear all sorts of crazy shit. i will see if i can google it and find anything on it. heres a website on it i didnt read it tho its boring to me. http://www.av1611.org/666/www_666.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-COG Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Speaking of computers, but slightly off topic, how well I remember (and wish I could forget) the stories I heard as a youngin' that there was a big computer being built in Europe that was the tech equivalent of big brother, oooooo! The one in Brussels, Belgium? At least, that's where I think it was supposed to be. That was back in the 70's/80's; I didn't know if it was still talked about, or if the fundies had moved onto bigger and more devilish accusations. Fundamentalists always fear new technology. When TV came out, it was evil, showing women dancing around in sleeveless dresses; wicked modern entertainment such as rock-n-roll, and other enticements to keep you home from church. It was an instrument of Satan. (My older sister remembers my grandmother telling her in the 50's that "Don't you know that television is of the devil?") I still have family members that refuse to have a TV in their homes. I wouldn't doubt that some felt the same way when radio came out. Fundies didn't approve when motion pictures were invented; this was a left over from their hatred of the theater, and all the supposedly loose, immoral people who were involved in it. So I'm not shocked to hear about Christians mumbling in horror over the internet. They haven't learned how to accept it yet. Funny, why don't they just claim dominion over it in "the name of Jesus" and cast all those evil porn demons and what-not out of the web? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 http://www.av1611.org/666/www_666.html Thanks for the link. It explained it. So it's the hebrew letter 6. Does anyone know how to get 666 from VISA? I heard it once long time ago, but can only remember VI for roman 6, but S and A? The one in Brussels, Belgium? At least, that's where I think it was supposed to be. That was back in the 70's/80's; I didn't know if it was still talked about, or if the fundies had moved onto bigger and more devilish accusations. Yeah, I remember that too. But it was supposed to be finished by now, wasn't it? I heard rumours about guys that actually worked there etc... IBM's Deep Blue (or Deep Thought or whatever it's called) is probably the closest to a "Beast" computer so far, and it's only at 1% of human brain capacity (IIRC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willybilly30 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 this mentions the visa thing youll have to skim threw the bullshit tho lol http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/barcodes/words.html im begining to wonder if you can put any word then 666 in the google search engine and find its tha mark of the beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infidel666 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I know at the church I went to, they were worried about computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc. Not because of evil but because these things allow people to stay in touch without being in physical contact. Without the need for physical contact the church goes out of business. So on some Sunday the Pastor speaks on the evil these items can cause. And the people in the pews take it too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelyn Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Speaking of computers, but slightly off topic, how well I remember (and wish I could forget) the stories I heard as a youngin' that there was a big computer being built in Europe that was the tech equivalent of big brother, oooooo! The one in Brussels, Belgium? At least, that's where I think it was supposed to be. That was back in the 70's/80's; I didn't know if it was still talked about, or if the fundies had moved onto bigger and more devilish accusations. Fundamentalists always fear new technology. When TV came out, it was evil, showing women dancing around in sleeveless dresses; wicked modern entertainment such as rock-n-roll, and other enticements to keep you home from church. It was an instrument of Satan. (My older sister remembers my grandmother telling her in the 50's that "Don't you know that television is of the devil?") I still have family members that refuse to have a TV in their homes. I wouldn't doubt that some felt the same way when radio came out. Fundies didn't approve when motion pictures were invented; this was a left over from their hatred of the theater, and all the supposedly loose, immoral people who were involved in it. So I'm not shocked to hear about Christians mumbling in horror over the internet. They haven't learned how to accept it yet. Funny, why don't they just claim dominion over it in "the name of Jesus" and cast all those evil porn demons and what-not out of the web? Yes, the one in Brussels. I dunno, computer technology even then got faster and smaller so quickly that anything that would take a few years to build would be obsolete by the time it was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 The other day, I was at the bus stop on my way to work. I happen to overhear the conversation between this guy and this lady (apparently both Christians) about the role of computers in the "end times". The guy said something to the effect of how people don't talk to each other anymore. "We're so busy talking to our computers we don't talk to each other anymore. How can you talk to a computer? A computer can't talk back. It's just a piece of machinery," he went on. He then started quoting a bunch of bible verses supposedly predicting how technology would tear down families and relationships. You know, my stepmom likes to use that excuse. I wonder if that's why she's against it so much, but she dosen't take most of the Bible literally. However, most studies say the opposite, that people are using computers to keep in touch with people by sending them e-mail, writing letters, sending photos, chatting, video-conferencing, etc. Just because you don't use your voice and see eye-to-eye doesn't make it not social contact, but you can do that with computers these days for the price of a web cam and a microphone if you really want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Yes, the one in Brussels. I dunno, computer technology even then got faster and smaller so quickly that anything that would take a few years to build would be obsolete by the time it was done. Very true! If they did build it, it's probably called "The Beast", not because it's a beasty fast and cool machine, but because it can only do multiplication, at a speed of 133 MHz, and the size of the computer is like two stories high. When they realized my PocketPC have more memory, faster CPU and more software, they gave up... If there's ever gonna be a "beast" computer, it will be a combination of organic and quantum computing, not old fashioned semis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spamandham Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 The point here is not whether eating animals is wrong, but all the real questions they had a ready defense for, and all the other questions you`ve formed a defense for as you already put in place as you read the above paragraph. You will reassure yourself, as they did, in the guise of an easygoing or `ethical` conversation. I eat animals because I have the ability to kill them and prepare them to my liking, and I feel no guilt about it even if it turns out they are sentient beings. Happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thackerie Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 http://www.av1611.org/666/www_666.html Thanks for the link. It explained it. So it's the hebrew letter 6. Does anyone know how to get 666 from VISA? I heard it once long time ago, but can only remember VI for roman 6, but S and A? The one in Brussels, Belgium? At least, that's where I think it was supposed to be. That was back in the 70's/80's; I didn't know if it was still talked about, or if the fundies had moved onto bigger and more devilish accusations. Yeah, I remember that too. But it was supposed to be finished by now, wasn't it? I heard rumours about guys that actually worked there etc... IBM's Deep Blue (or Deep Thought or whatever it's called) is probably the closest to a "Beast" computer so far, and it's only at 1% of human brain capacity (IIRC). I remember back in the day when it was said that 666 stood for "Ronald Wilson Reagan." Come to think of it, there might be something to that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luck Mermaid Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 no. I'm not not happy. Nevermind. It went over your head, that is if I ever had it to start with, I'm not sure. And no I'm not trying to insult you or say you're dumb or thoughtless. Also in the first paragraph when I said 'this happens all the time ' in the US as regards to animals being treated well before slaughter, I meant they are NOT treated well or even halfway decent. Also, I don't know what 'sentient' means. But if it means 'ability to feel pain and fear' and anyone doubts that, well I don't think they doubt it I think they're just full of shit. It's not really a 'question'. It's obvious they do. As I said before, the whole point is the conversations people go over to reassure themselves. And as Iwas writing my example I realized the people who were reading it were doing the same thing. As you felt the need to respond and justify your meat eating, it's really a reassurance of yourself. And no , I m not saying I'm above it and never do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick5 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 i heard www on webpages is 666 somehow. i wonder if everything that exists theirs a christian saying its from satan. Good thing the number of the beatst is 616 then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willybilly30 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 i was born june 16 thatd be 6/16 lol i may be the beast mwahahahaha! but if i add the year 75 i guess not. but if you add 7 + 5 = 12 winch takes 2 sixes to make 12 to make. 61666 using christian sillyness is kinda fun lol or if you add 6/16/1975 you get 116 now take the 5 out of 75 add it too the 1 in 116 now its 166 add a 5 to the other one. got 666 lol Good thing the number of the beatst is 616 then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Emerson Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 this mentions the visa thing youll have to skim threw the bullshit tho lol http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/barcodes/words.html im begining to wonder if you can put any word then 666 in the google search engine and find its tha mark of the beast some people have too much time on their hands! lol then again I could say the same thing about me, since I've been here all day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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