chrisassaf Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Ex-christians should have this type of attitude; if your god wants me to give up something or do something, let him tell me, not you. That is how atheists should be, ex-christian or not. I know of any atheist who shares the same sentiment as me. I am sick of freedom of speech. If I was running this country for a day, I would repress free speech for everybody, atheist and Christian. We are all governed by a celestial screenplay that outlines what each person is to say in certain situations. Only a select few can read it and I am one of those. That would be the religion I push onto my government. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ Fuego ♦ Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Time to move along kiddo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted November 26, 2020 Super Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2020 Wow. A christian telling other people how they should live. How original. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisassaf Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said: Wow. A christian telling other people how they should live. How original. But when people do that, it is often because it's for your own good. Also, there are times when all the good things that you have in your life was because of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted November 26, 2020 Super Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2020 Often, people who think they know what's good for me actually don't know the first god damn thing about me and really ought to mind their own business. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
◊ Weezer ◊ Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 54 minutes ago, chrisassaf said: But when people do that, it is often because it's for your own good. Also, there are times when all the good things that you have in your life was because of them. Are you delusional? Or just playing games? I am ex-church of Christ (and Mennonite for a couple of years), and especially after reading your post about the soldier and Mennonite, am confused about your sincerity. The absolute "demands" to the moderators is not in tune with Mennonite (or christian) thinking. So I am thinking you must be delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisassaf Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 30 minutes ago, Weezer said: Are you delusional? Or just playing games? I am ex-church of Christ (and Mennonite for a couple of years), and especially after reading your post about the soldier and Mennonite, am confused about your sincerity. The absolute "demands" to the moderators is not in tune with Mennonite (or christian) thinking. So I am thinking you must be delusional. What did you think of my dialogue? The soldier and the Mennonite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, chrisassaf said: But when people do that, it is often because it's for your own good. ... ...and often it is not. 1 hour ago, chrisassaf said: ... Also, there are times when all the good things that you have in your life was because of them. ...except when it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Joshpantera Posted November 26, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2020 5 hours ago, chrisassaf said: I am sick of freedom of speech. If I was running this country for a day, I would repress free speech for everybody, atheist and Christian. That seems to be one of the problems with going too far left or right - free speech suffers regardless of direction. Communist Russia and China illustrate the left end, you and your christian views illustrate the right end of the extreme. Free speech doesn't gel with authoritarian views. And god is one of the biggest authoritarian views that exist. Or that could exists. What could be a bigger authoritarian view than a supernatural, infinite and eternal god with absolute say??? 5 hours ago, chrisassaf said: We are all governed by a celestial screenplay that outlines what each person is to say in certain situations. Only a select few can read it and I am one of those. That would be the religion I push onto my government. Thankfully, you're just some ordinary wanker and not in control of any government. An authoritarian in your own wonderfully handcrafted, subjective delusion. You have special revelation. You're laying out the TRVTH for everyone here. You are great! You stand tall! Well guess what, wanker. You're in the Lion's Den now!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LogicalFallacy Posted November 26, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2020 I'm not sure to being with the spewage of garbage that is the OP. Whereas we can actually make statements as to how Christian's should be because the bible (which Christians purport to follow) has specific statements about how they should be, there is no mandate to state how Ex-Christians should be. On the "sick of freedom of speech" part - If I was admin of this site I'd make your account unable to post... just to prove the point about repressing free speech. 5 hours ago, chrisassaf said: We are all governed by a celestial screenplay that outlines what each person is to say in certain situations. Really? This is a claim. Back it up with evidence please. 5 hours ago, chrisassaf said: Only a select few can read it and I am one of those. Well, we don't set a high regard for ourselves do we? 5 hours ago, chrisassaf said: That would be the religion I push onto my government. And that would be a religion I fight to keep out of government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgarcito Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, TheRedneckProfessor said: Often, people who think they know what's good for me actually don't know the first god damn thing about me and really ought to mind their own business. eesh Prof....you're making a case for faith.....ease off on the tryptophan. Happy Thanksgiving btw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisassaf Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, LogicalFallacy said: I'm not sure to being with the spewage of garbage that is the OP. Whereas we can actually make statements as to how Christian's should be because the bible (which Christians purport to follow) has specific statements about how they should be, there is no mandate to state how Ex-Christians should be. On the "sick of freedom of speech" part - If I was admin of this site I'd make your account unable to post... just to prove the point about repressing free speech. Really? This is a claim. Back it up with evidence please. None of your business. 22 minutes ago, LogicalFallacy said: Well, we don't set a high regard for ourselves do we? And that would be a religion I fight to keep out of government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisassaf Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, Joshpantera said: That seems to be one of the problems with going too far left or right - free speech suffers regardless of direction. Communist Russia and China illustrate the left end, you and your christian views illustrate the right end of the extreme. Free speech doesn't gel with authoritarian views. And god is one of the biggest authoritarian views that exist. Or that could exists. What could be a bigger authoritarian view than a supernatural, infinite and eternal god with absolute say??? Thankfully, you're just some ordinary wanker and not in control of any government. An authoritarian in your own wonderfully handcrafted, subjective delusion. You have special revelation. You're laying out the TRVTH for everyone here. You are great! You stand tall! Well guess what, wanker. You're in the Lion's Den now!!!! A few atheists have the same sentiment I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted November 26, 2020 Super Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2020 25 minutes ago, Edgarcito said: eesh Prof....you're making a case for faith How so? Happy Turkey Day to you, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LogicalFallacy Posted November 26, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, chrisassaf said: None of your business. Like I said, spewing garbage at this point. If you want us to take your claims seriously you are going to have to provide a lot more than what you've presented thus far. At this point I'm like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgarcito Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said: How so? Happy Turkey Day to you, as well. If we don't know someone, our actions towards them are largely by faith. To that end, seeing how I don't know what's best for someone two steps outside their front door, how are we to say anything really. Granted upon examination, we can provide help in many ways, but with respect to "who I am", and what is best for that expression, who can say. I don't see any other options really....we can hire a therapist and backtrack or suggest to young people what might work in their future, but I see no definitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisassaf Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 3 hours ago, TheRedneckProfessor said: Often, people who think they know what's good for me actually don't know the first god damn thing about me and really ought to mind their own business. You should not have moved my dialogue to the lions den. I was not preaching on there. Just trying to be the next Lucian or Plato. Either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disillusioned Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 This is how Christians should be: not here. (Matthew 10:14). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, Edgarcito said: If we don't know someone, our actions towards them are largely by faith. ... Again, speak for yourself, and not for others. My actions towards others I do not know may involve curiosity, obligation, avoidance, selfishness, altruism, among many other purposes, none of which involve faith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgarcito Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, sdelsolray said: Again, speak for yourself, and not for others. My actions towards others I do not know may involve curiosity, obligation, avoidance, selfishness, altruism, among many other purposes, none of which involve faith. Good point. I was speaking in the context of the Prof's comment.... Edit: Thinking about it though....obligation can be direction/directing, selfishness can be direction/directing.....curiosity can be selfishness. Altruism? That implies that you know. I rest my case your honor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted November 26, 2020 Super Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, chrisassaf said: You should not have moved my dialogue to the lions den. I was not preaching on there. Just trying to be the next Lucian or Plato. Either one. The world doesn't need another Lucian or Plato. Those guys had their turn. You're here now because it's your turn. So man up, now, and be the best you that you can be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted November 26, 2020 Super Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2020 52 minutes ago, Edgarcito said: To that end, seeing how I don't know what's best for someone two steps outside their front door, how are we to say anything really. So, if you don't know someone, you shouldn't be telling them how to live. Like I said. But what's that got to do with faith? The jesus-y kind of faith, not the "hey I dont know you but I have faith you won't murder me and then butt-rape my corpse." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator LogicalFallacy Posted November 26, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, TheRedneckProfessor said: So, if you don't know someone, you shouldn't be telling them how to live. Like I said. But what's that got to do with faith? The jesus-y kind of faith, not the "hey I dont know you but I have faith you won't murder me and then butt-rape my corpse." Urrggh the images. My mind, my mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Moderator TheRedneckProfessor Posted November 27, 2020 Super Moderator Share Posted November 27, 2020 Had the potential to become an exquisite flower vase... Tried instead to become the next Play-Doh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisassaf Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 We are getting sidetracked here. Just saying that why aren't ex-christians saying things like "if your god does not l8ke the way I live, let him tell me, not you", more often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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