mymistake Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I can see a picture of Godzilla where is the picture of God? That's the difference. One where there ISNT a description at all of the NATURE not label versus One who has a description despite the subjective nature of it So you are willing to keep an open mind that Harry Potter might be real and Hogwarts school of magic might be real. We can't say they are not, right? Your argument has failed. It has no substance. "Fictional is a label not a description of the actual being." Absolutely wrong. Fictional is a description of the very nature of imaginary things humans create. Example: God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AcceptingAThiest1 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 I went deeper Fictional is a label not a description of the actual being. Otherwise spider is not red and blue he is fictional Superman isn't a man he is fictional Godzilla isn't similar to a giant lizard he is fictional That's a label. Not a description of nature of the being IN the fictional universe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I notice you are not answering my questions. You want special treatment for (your) God. (Your) God alone must be assumed to be true because . . . well just because. You don't treat other deities this way. You don't treat other fictional characters this way. You can't explain why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duderonomy Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 If Spiderman showed up and I could see him, I'd believe he was real, if he could do what the comic books said he could do. If Biblegod ever showed up and did what the Bible said he would do, I'd believe he was real. Neither one ever did, but Biblegod promised he would in his book. That's the difference, A1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AcceptingAThiest1 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 When someone ask you to desribe charlie brown. You will say he is fictional? And not a teenage boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AcceptingAThiest1 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 If Spiderman showed up and I could see him, I'd believe he was real, if he could do what the comic books said he could do. If Biblegod ever showed up and did what the Bible said he would do, I'd believe he was real. Neither one ever did, but Biblegod promised he would in his book. That's the difference, A1. Actually that's exactly why I believe because things in the bible have been proven true. Practical means and scientific How do u explain when the bible knew something before scientists did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1AcceptingAThiest1 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Other Gods have not effected 2billion loves like the God of the bible has. Not appealing to population but an honest observation at hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duderonomy Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 If Spiderman showed up and I could see him, I'd believe he was real, if he could do what the comic books said he could do. If Biblegod ever showed up and did what the Bible said he would do, I'd believe he was real. Neither one ever did, but Biblegod promised he would in his book. That's the difference, A1. Actually that's exactly why I believe because things in the bible have been proven true. Practical means and scientific How do u explain when the bible knew something before scientists did? Do you have examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 if 10 different christians provide you with 10 different discriptions of God How would you know which one is the real one? Why should I assume one of them is "real"?Thats the conundrum isnt? yall asked for a description with a pre condition to never accept one in the first place and then...you say God doesnt exist without a description you dont even know what you are denying, you dont even know what doesnt exist because you have no clue what it even is. Can't say something DOESNT exist if you dont even know what it is You misrepresent. You lie. I did not say, "God doesn't exist without a description" (your words). But your lie does set up your strawman fallacy quite nicely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Other Gods have not effected 2billion loves like the God of the bible has. Not appealing to population but an honest observation at hand This theist is not using a argument from popularity, except when he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duderonomy Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I'm heading to the chatroom to make an ass of myself. I only bring this up because this kind of back and forth is what chatrooms are for. Join me, Saucy1, if you have nothing else to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdelsolray Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 If Spiderman showed up and I could see him, I'd believe he was real, if he could do what the comic books said he could do. If Biblegod ever showed up and did what the Bible said he would do, I'd believe he was real. Neither one ever did, but Biblegod promised he would in his book. That's the difference, A1. Actually that's exactly why I believe because things in the bible have been proven true. Practical means and scientific How do u explain when the bible knew something before scientists did? Something in the Bible is true so, therefore, everything in the Bible is true. This theist is full of shit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey101 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 If Spiderman showed up and I could see him, I'd believe he was real, if he could do what the comic books said he could do. If Biblegod ever showed up and did what the Bible said he would do, I'd believe he was real. Neither one ever did, but Biblegod promised he would in his book. That's the difference, A1. Actually that's exactly why I believe because things in the bible have been proven true. Practical means and scientific How do u explain when the bible knew something before scientists did? Another Christian that thinks religious faith should be proved scientifically and that their religion is more loving than any other religion. And I'm guessing will claim Christianity is not a religion. Geez, haven't you guys ever been to school? The mind is a terrible thing to waste. And what's up with the steak sauce shit? lol Is that an attempt at humor? Fundamentalism kills creativity my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 When someone ask you to desribe charlie brown. You will say he is fictional? And not a teenage boy? Usually I do not because I assume the one who asks is not delusional. However if I thought they had trouble telling cartoon characters apart from reality then I would inform them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey101 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 1 This theist is full of shit. Just another run-of-the-mill fundy. Badly in need of education yet very proud of his ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Other Gods have not effected 2billion loves like the God of the bible has. Not appealing to population but an honest observation at hand You can point to no effect from God other than coincidence and the placebo effect. And yes, if 2 billion people take a sugar pill when they believe it is something else there will be a positive yet slight change. This change is the power of humans believing but it does not matter what they believe in. The effect is from believing, not from having the right god. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinkerNZ Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 If Spiderman showed up and I could see him, I'd believe he was real, if he could do what the comic books said he could do. If Biblegod ever showed up and did what the Bible said he would do, I'd believe he was real. Neither one ever did, but Biblegod promised he would in his book. That's the difference, A1. Actually that's exactly why I believe because things in the bible have been proven true. Practical means and scientific How do u explain when the bible knew something before scientists did? Another Christian that thinks religious faith should be proved scientifically and that their religion is more loving than any other religion. And I'm guessing will claim Christianity is not a religion. Geez, haven't you guys ever been to school? The mind is a terrible thing to waste. And what's up with the steak sauce shit? lol Is that an attempt at humor? Fundamentalism kills creativity my friend. Some of us dubbed him A1 sauce when he first arrived because it was easier than writing out his full username. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeThinkerNZ Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 And.. what the hell are you talking about anyway?, seriously… please proofread and straighten out your argument/points first.. GAH!! It's like trying to read IKEA instructions transliterated from Malaysian to Russian and then to English by native speakers of none of these languages. This should probably go in the boring thread, but I Google translated "Assemble shelf A to shelf B with 2 x screw A" into Malaysian then Russian then back to English and got "Installing racks AB 2 x screw A." Hope this makes sense to steaksauce. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey101 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Some of us dubbed him A1 sauce when he first arrived because it was easier than writing out his full username. Ahh I see. I'll just call him meathead. I'd feel bad but if you're going to promote ignorance it shouldn't be that surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator TrueFreedom Posted December 12, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 12, 2014 If you honestly want to learn, perhaps if you feel a need to free yourself, we are hear for you, sauce. As far as sharing some profound wisdom with us..., uh, give it up. You sound stupid. Just. Stahp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymistake Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 If Spiderman showed up and I could see him, I'd believe he was real, if he could do what the comic books said he could do. If Biblegod ever showed up and did what the Bible said he would do, I'd believe he was real. Neither one ever did, but Biblegod promised he would in his book. That's the difference, A1. Actually that's exactly why I believe because things in the bible have been proven true. Practical means and scientific How do u explain when the bible knew something before scientists did? Do you have examples? Of course not. Don't you know you are suppose to accept his claims on faith? Besides you can't prove that he doesn't have examples because that would be a negative claim. And since you can't prove he doesn't have examples you can't say he doesn't have them. Therefore you must keep an open mind as if he does have examples. It makes perfect sense in Bizaro Logic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astreja Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 This should probably go in the boring thread, but I Google translated "Assemble shelf A to shelf B with 2 x screw A" into Malaysian then Russian then back to English and got "Installing racks AB 2 x screw A." Hope this makes sense to steaksauce. At least the translation implies that rack-like objects are being installed. The trouble with world religions is that the multiplicity of deities with conflicting rules calls them all into question. As the saying goes, "they can't all be right, but they can all be wrong." Perhaps we should cut to the chase and get the puzzled little IKEA man and his helpful friend to write us a scripture in pictographs. We can all wear little Allen key necklaces and have a EuIKEA of meatballs and glögg. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mydisplayname Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Other Gods have not effected 2billion loves like the God of the bible has. Not appealing to population but an honest observation at hand Your number is correct, but you neglect to mention that Islam is sitting at 1.8 billion. Turns out the other gods aren't doing so bad themselves steaksauce. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations edit to add: check out number three on the list sitting at 1.1 billion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duderonomy Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 If Spiderman showed up and I could see him, I'd believe he was real, if he could do what the comic books said he could do. If Biblegod ever showed up and did what the Bible said he would do, I'd believe he was real. Neither one ever did, but Biblegod promised he would in his book. That's the difference, A1. Actually that's exactly why I believe because things in the bible have been proven true. Practical means and scientific How do u explain when the bible knew something before scientists did? Do you have examples? Of course not. Don't you know you are suppose to accept his claims on faith? Besides you can't prove that he doesn't have examples because that would be a negative claim. And since you can't prove he doesn't have examples you can't say he doesn't have them. Therefore you must keep an open mind as if he does have examples. It makes perfect sense in Bizaro Logic! I'd be right there with you, MM, but I almost died tonight. Only Spiderman showed up tonight to save my life. You can read about it in a book written years ago. Some people doubt that book, but I'm here to say it's all true! It happened to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey101 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I'd be right there with you, MM, but I almost died tonight. Only Spiderman showed up tonight to save my life. You can read about it in a book written years ago. Some people doubt that book, but I'm here to say it's all true! It happened to me! It happened to me too, and science proves it. Or at least, if it hasn't already, I know it will eventually because I know it's true. Science proves Spiderman. And He is all love, unlike Batman and all those other fake superhero dicks. Have an open mind to Spiderman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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