Incomprehensibility Of Christian Mindsets

[Lycorth]

 

To the message board: That insult did not represent what Christ looks like. That insult was a misrepresentation. I am to be His ambassador and I represented Him poorly.

 

Please do not view my sinful response as what Christ is really like. Please look past this broken vessel to the vessel Maker.

 

No dice, kiddo. Your actions here are precisely Christ-like. After all, the message of Jesus™ is "you're worthless without me and you'll be tortured for all time unless you sell your soul to me." From that filthy gospel of yours comes this basic message, which every Xian sect has tried to expound upon, some more compassionately, others less so.

 

Most of us have read the Babble, read where Jesus™ condemns the divorced and fornicators and homosexuals and unbelievers and the like to everlasting torment. That's SICK beyond SICK. And you march on here with your holier-than-thou attitude and claim we all deserve the same thing? That we should accept Jesus™ even after the clear meaning of his teachings are that my father will got to hell? My good and loving father, who suffered the Depression, WWII and Korea, numerous physical injuries and illnesses, and who lost two children before me is hell-bound because he divorced his first wife, even though he had to escape a bad marriage? Or that my mother, his second wife, is an adulterous whore because she married him, and is hellbound despite the living hell she already went through losing my brother and sister and suffering from cancer and the terrible fallout from her treatments? Or that my fiancee, a kind and loving girl, is hellbound because she and I consummated our love physically - yes, had SEX before we have been married, despite all the things she's suffered? That innumerable good and decent people who have already suffered enough in this life are going to suffer more in the next just because they don't believe in Jesus™?

 

You dare to tell me I must worship this Jesus™, this abomination, this invention of sun-stricken bedouins? You dare to presume that such words of obvious hatred and scorn for you and all humanity are somehow the "blessed" word of a god? You dare to promote this filth in the face of nearly infinite evidence to the contrary?

 

And then you dare to say that Jesus™, the bastard son of a devil, somehow does not preach these things, and we are not to take your posts in such a fashion?

JUST WHO IN THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE???

 

Yes, we curse you - you have earned it. It is you who preaches the torture of millions of innocents, and blasphemes the character of people you don't know. It is you who parrots this filth before us and stubbornly refuses to retract or apologize for one hurtful word of it. It is you who mirrors your impotent bastard-god, crucified only in the warped minds of the "faithful." We curse you and we curse your god, though he is but fiction without proof - an idol.

 

People like you and preaching like yours are precisely why we avoid Xianity, and curse the name of Jesus™ forever. I'd rather burn in Hell with my family and loved ones than go to heaven with your devil.

[Mythra]

Luther said, "You can't stop birds from flying over your head, but you can stop them from making nests in your hair."

 

Yeah? Luther also said this:

 

"But what will happen even if we do burn down the Jews' synagogues and forbid them publicly to praise God, to pray, to teach, to utter God's name? They will still keep doing it in secret. If we know that they are doing this in secret, it is the same as if they were doing it publicly. For our knowledge of their secret doings and our toleration of them implies that they are not secret after all and thus our conscience is encumbered with it before God."

 

-Martin Luther (On the Jews and Their Lies)

[jrmarlin]

Luther said, "You can't stop birds from flying over your head, but you can stop them from making nests in your hair."

 

Yeah? Luther also said this:

 

"But what will happen even if we do burn down the Jews' synagogues and forbid them publicly to praise God, to pray, to teach, to utter God's name? They will still keep doing it in secret. If we know that they are doing this in secret, it is the same as if they were doing it publicly. For our knowledge of their secret doings and our toleration of them implies that they are not secret after all and thus our conscience is encumbered with it before God."

 

-Martin Luther (On the Jews and Their Lies)

As I wrote on another thread. The most ironic thing in Christianity is:

Jesus was a Jew. So basically, Christians -- and Luther are against Jesus's claimed religion.

 

Now that's the biggest Godsmic joke ever known to man.......

[Mythra]

To the message board: That insult did not represent what Christ looks like. That insult was a misrepresentation. I am to be His ambassador and I represented Him poorly.

 

[pandora]

Chris--- what would you say if I told you that I was a True Christian? I spent many a night in tears over my sins. I eventually got to the point where I trusted God's grace and took refuge in it. I never got proud (about this grace) and went out and sinned willy nilly because I thought God would forgive me anyway, nor did I go out and assume that grace was enough... I volunteered more than I worked. I befriended the underdogs and the nerds in school.... I didn't kiss my boyfriend, I didn't cheat on exams, etc... all because I feared God in what I thought was a healthy way. I wanted to serve him.

 

What do you say to people such as me? Even if you don't believe me, assume I am telling the truth. What is your theory of why I am an apostate now?

[Mythra]

Most of us have read the Babble, read where Jesus condemns the divorced and fornicators and homosexuals and unbelievers and the like to everlasting torment. That's SICK beyond SICK. And you march on here with your holier-than-thou attitude and claim we all deserve the same thing? That we should accept Jesus even after the clear meaning of his teachings are that my father will got to hell? My good and loving father, who suffered the Depression, WWII and Korea, numerous physical injuries and illnesses, and who lost two children before me is hell-bound because he divorced his first wife, even though he had to escape a bad marriage? Or that my mother, his second wife, is an adulterous whore because she married him, and is hellbound despite the living hell she already went through losing my brother and sister and suffering from cancer and the terrible fallout from her treatments? Or that my fiancee, a kind and loving girl, is hellbound because she and I consummated our love physically - yes, had SEX before we have been married, despite all the things she's suffered? That innumerable good and decent people who have already suffered enough in this life are going to suffer more in the next just because they don't believe in Jesus?

You dare to tell me I must worship this Jesus, this abomination, this invention of sun-stricken bedouins? You dare to presume that such words of obvious hatred and scorn for you and all humanity are somehow the "blessed" word of a god? You dare to promote this filth in the face of nearly infinite evidence to the contrary?

 

Varokhar: That was world class. I salute thee, my brother.

[Lycorth]

Varokhar: That was world class. I salute thee, my brother.

 

Thanks for the kindly words, comrade. But what I'd like to see is what that little Xian son of a bitch has to say to justify himself and his dead devil on a stick now.

[white_raven23]

And I challenge you to look into the eyes of a newborne babe and tell it's mother that the kid is a filthy sinner unworthy in the eyes of your deity.

 

We have a 4-month old. We've talked about this.

 

Feelings don't change truth. He doesn't feel like capable of mass-murder, but he is. He may be cute but so was Hitler as a baby, I'm sure.

 

It is my duty to present the gospel to him by living my life in a way that demonstrates what I believe and to make it clear to him like I am to you right now. And pray for him, that he turns from the wickedness he certainly will one day commit.

 

 

You know.............a mindset like this, one wishes it was this kind of thing that would make Child Social Services' warning antennae go up.

 

But nooooooooo. A mindset like yours is deemed acceptable, despite the lifetime of psychological and emotional damage you WILL be putting on your child, and you even openly admit to it too.

 

When you child becomes old enough to act out in rage, out of want of real love and caring from you....instead of parroted godspeak.....I hope by then you will be wise enough to listen and understand.

[jrmarlin]

Varokhar, relax. We all know that Chris has the common sense of a knat. That goes without saying. But to share such personal, private things with a pig is not good. Because like the fucktard he is, he will use that against you. Don't give him such amo, it will only come back to haunt you.

 

Chris has psychological problems. It's as obvious as the nose on everyone's faces. This guy is so twisted, even most fundies wouldn't like him tootin' their horn. The guy can't help the fact that he is a 'case.'

 

He is not worth getting so upset over. Giving him your anger only gives him - the attention-seeker- what he wants...your energy. He's not worth it.

 

For me, Chris is the kind of person that if he were in my toilet, he's not worth me taking the time to flush it. He is a stain on humanity. His beliefs are obviously not backed by any evidence proving his case. In fact, if you really think about it, your life is much richer, fuller and healthier. So who is really doing right by God even if you don't believe in him.

 

Chris doesn't do right by God. Chris doesn't do right by himself. As much as we disrespect him, he keeps coming back for more.

 

And by the way, Chris, I have a whip and if you want real suffering I can come to your place and whip the shit out of you the RIGHT way. Not with words - but with leather. You are obviously an S&M whore. You obviously get your dick off reading this shit so how about you just cut the bullshit and tell us all what you really want...cause it ain't God, sweetness. You need a woman to whip your ass. If that's what you really want, so shall it be.

 

[Lycorth]

Oh, I know full well how he can turn it against me, jrmarlin. But if he's really a fundy dope and not doing it for attention, I want to know what he thinks. I want to see if he can actually feel some shame for his nonsense, or will just respond with the same old Babble verses and programming.

 

It's a good experiment and I also needed to vent - more spiritual laxatives. Something tells me I am speaking for more than just myself, too.

[Taphophilia]

 

We have a 4-month old. We've talked about this.

 

Feelings don't change truth. He doesn't feel like capable of mass-murder, but he is. He may be cute but so was Hitler as a baby, I'm sure.

 

 

This is by far the sickest and most uneducated statement that I have ever read on this forum! Even when I was a Christian, I understood the difference between sociopath and sin nature.

I never believed that my small babies were evil or would grow up to be sociopaths if they did not accept Christ.

 

The only thing you do here, Chris, is confirm that rejecting Christianity is the right decision.

 

Taph

[pandora]

Chris-- you honestly think your son will commit mass murder if he doesn't become a Christian?

 

Four months old? And you're sure he is THAT much of a sociopath?

[jrmarlin]

::::knocks on monitor glass:::::

 

Hello? Chris is a moron. Why do we even keep reading his ridiculous posts? He is what's termed as a troll. Mr. Grinch would tell you not to feed the trolls! Remember?

 

[Mythra]

Hello? Chris is a moron. Why do we even keep reading his ridiculous posts? He is what's termed as a troll. Mr. Grinch would tell you not to feed the trolls! Remember?

 

You think we're feeding him? I'd say it's more like this:

 

 

[jrmarlin]

Hello? Chris is a moron. Why do we even keep reading his ridiculous posts? He is what's termed as a troll. Mr. Grinch would tell you not to feed the trolls! Remember?

 

You think we're feeding him? I'd say it's more like this:

 

 

Mythra, you are one of my favorites.... Thanks for giving me a big old smile today. You rock!

[Amethyst]

 

We have a 4-month old. We've talked about this.

 

Feelings don't change truth. He doesn't feel like capable of mass-murder, but he is. He may be cute but so was Hitler as a baby, I'm sure.

 

 

This is by far the sickest and most uneducated statement that I have ever read on this forum! Even when I was a Christian, I understood the difference between sociopath and sin nature.

I never believed that my small babies were evil or would grow up to be sociopaths if they did not accept Christ.

 

The only thing you do here, Chris, is confirm that rejecting Christianity is the right decision.

 

Taph

 

Ditto. To be that hateful toward an innocent baby is just sick. He's trapped in a mental prison of his own making. Only he can get himself out of it.

[Asimov]

You know, the Holy Spirit has really been convicting me of what I said above. It was sarcastic and intended to be an insult. It may not have sounded like one, but I meant it to sting.

 

Wow, that was a pretty shitty insult then.

 

Asimov, I've asked God to forgive me (for my offense was first at Him). Would you please forgive me too?

In light of Jesus' command, I'll be asking God to keep you safe and healthy this year. Of course He will do what is best, but He often makes different choices based upon the prayers of the saints.

 

No, because you only ask for forgiveness because Christ commands you to. I don't forgive you because you don't need forgiveness, you need a reality check.

To the message board: That insult did not represent what Christ looks like. That insult was a misrepresentation. I am to be His ambassador and I represented Him poorly.

Please do not view my sinful response as what Christ is really like. Please look past this broken vessel to the vessel Maker.

 

No, Jesus is exactly like that. He calls us fools, swine, snakes, evil, etc.

 

Almost all of you have cursed me, so in obedience to Jesus' command I will be asking God to keep you all safe and healthy in the next few months.

Ta ta for now, not ignoring you but I have to go away from the computer for a while.

 

You probably don't understand a single thing that I say because you're so mired in Jesus that you cannot rationalize anything.

 

YOU ARE NOT A BAD PERSON

YOUR CHILD IS NOT A BAD PERSON AND WILL NOT BE A BAD PERSON

 

YOU DO NOT NEED FORGIVENESS

YOUR CHILD DOES NOT NEED FORGIVENESS

 

This is what I'm saying, buddy. It has nothing to do with understanding the Christian mindset. I understand it well. It's the mindset of irrationality.

 

Your belief (in God, the Bible) is irrational, and contains no objective truth. You cannot demonstrate it to be true, and you cannot validate any of your belief. It lacks evidence, rational argumentation, and a foundation in reality.

 

::::knocks on monitor glass:::::

 

Hello? Chris is a moron. Why do we even keep reading his ridiculous posts? He is what's termed as a troll. Mr. Grinch would tell you not to feed the trolls! Remember?

 

The only thing needed for Trolls to flourish is for good men to do nothing.

[jrmarlin]

::::knocks on monitor glass:::::

 

Hello? Chris is a moron. Why do we even keep reading his ridiculous posts? He is what's termed as a troll. Mr. Grinch would tell you not to feed the trolls! Remember?

 

The only thing needed for Trolls to flourish is for good men to do nothing.

Hey, I've been busting on him, too. Didn't you see the whip a christian for christ sign?

[Fweethawt]

Something tells me I am speaking for more than just myself, too.

Oh, you are.

 

*shakes Varokhar's hand*

*buys Varokhar a beer*

 

 

We have a 4-month old. We've talked about this.

 

Feelings don't change truth. He doesn't feel like capable of mass-murder, but he is. He may be cute but so was Hitler as a baby, I'm sure.

 

This is by far the sickest and most uneducated statement that I have ever read on this forum! Even when I was a Christian, I understood the difference between sociopath and sin nature.

I never believed that my small babies were evil or would grow up to be sociopaths if they did not accept Christ.

 

The only thing you do here, Chris, is confirm that rejecting Christianity is the right decision.

 

Taph

I totally agree.

 

For the love of his paper god, Chris is going to teach his very own son to hate himself.

 

He hates his own son.

 

And he does it with a smile on his face.

[Open_Minded]

We have a 4-month old. We've talked about this.

 

Feelings don't change truth. He doesn't feel like capable of mass-murder, but he is. He may be cute but so was Hitler as a baby, I'm sure.

 

It is my duty to present the gospel to him by living my life in a way that demonstrates what I believe and to make it clear to him like I am to you right now. And pray for him, that he turns from the wickedness he certainly will one day commit.

 

.......

 

 

You know it's wrong to steal, to hate, to lust. You know it's wrong, you do it anyway. The Law just gives you eyes to see your wicked moral condition.

 

 

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Chris, when you were a boy, or a teen, or whenever ... and some adult was crushing your spirit with his/her words and actions. When they were striking at your soul with righteous anger - and convincing you that you were wicked - in your heart you KNEW it was wrong. You KNEW deep in your heart that their crushing words and actions were hatefilled and had nothing to do with love. YOU KNEW that ...

 

Your son deserves better than you got as a young boy or a teenager, Chris. He does. And you KNOW in your heart it's wrong to treat him the same way you were treated.

 

You were not born wicked, and whoever convinced you that you were was abusing you. DO NOT DO THE SAME THING TO YOUR SON, THAT WAS DONE TO YOU.

 

YOU LIVE UP TO WHAT YOU KNEW, CHRIS - YOU HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY. Your child deserves better than you were given - he does. And you KNOW it.

[Fweethawt]

Your child deserves better than you were given - he does. And you KNOW it.

His son deserves nothing!

 

Don't forget, we're talking about a potential mass-murderer here.

 

We gotta crush his spirit before allowing him to grow into being his individual self.

 

C'mon, Open_Minded, you know the mind-set - live according to what ifs and contemplate the worst in every scenario. Especially when it comes to the kids! It's how they ensure that the next generation is as (if not more) screwed up than the previous one.

 

It's how the meme works.

 

I'd apologize about that, but it's really not my fault.

[Onyx]

You know what? I quit on Chris De Vidal.

He's a toliet stain.

[Amethyst]

I think he needs professional help. Seriously.

[Fweethawt]

I think he needs professional help. Seriously.

With God and Ray Comfort on his side, who else could even be worthy enough to help him?

[Open_Minded]

Your child deserves better than you were given - he does. And you KNOW it.

His son deserves nothing!

 

Don't forget, we're talking about a potential mass-murderer here.

 

We gotta crush his spirit before allowing him to grow into being his individual self.

 

C'mon, Open_Minded, you know the mind-set - live according to what ifs and contemplate the worst in every scenario. Especially when it comes to the kids! It's how they ensure that the next generation is as (if not more) screwed up than the previous one.

 

It's how the meme works.

 

I'd apologize about that, but it's really not my fault.

 

I know Fweethawt ... what scares me is wondering exactly what it takes to crush a child's spirit.

 

As I said ... YOU KNOW BETTER CHRIS ... you do. YOU LIVE UP TO WHAT YOU KNOW.

 

I think he needs professional help. Seriously.

 

You are so right Amethyst ... and deep down he KNOWS this. For his son's sake, and for his own sake, I hope he does get some help.